This Mobile Battery Can Charge An EV In A Pinch! Here's How We Plan To Use The Zendure SuperBase V
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- SuperBase V from Zendure: A plug-and-play lifeline for home energy storage!
SuperBase V6400 is the first modular, portable power station with Semi-Solid State batteries to provide more reliable, safer, cleaner energy when and where users need it most. It is ideal for RV and off-grid living, EV charging, whole-home power needs, and as an emergency backup when sudden outages occur, especially during extreme weather.
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One cool use case would be to setup a few solar panels (max solar input) to feed the battery unit and, on a sunny day, how much energy could you get into an EV? Like if you were camping and had all day to charge your car
Bjorn has several videos charging EVs with a batery souce where the car battery was drained to zero.
How do we find this channel?
Finally!!! A “spare tank” equivalent for ev’s. Good content. Mobile energy source!!
I love different solutions like these so please keep doing videos on this and similar devices. Your idea of taking it to the track with the Renault sounds like fun. Thanks for the video.
I've noticed a few of these large battery backup type devices and this was one of the nicer ones as I liked the J plug option for charging. One thing I have yet to see and would like to is a CCS type DC charge adapter with built in controller. That would allow more efficient charging of EVs since you could avoid the DC-AC-DC conversion.
Yes definitely keep looking at portable battery generators and solar energy etc. The Zendure looks like a pretty cool and useful bit of tech that I'm sure you'll have fun with over the coming weeks and months. Keep up the great work!
Whenever I see something like this I always wonder how far this technology will be in another 10 years.
I have a EcoFlow Delta Pro (3.6 kWh) and have attempted to charge my Tesla MY a handful of times. I don’t charge the Delta Pro above 90% (typically) or drain it below 10-12%. So if you do the math, I’m lucky to get 2.75 kWh of charge. This is roughly 3.6% of the MY’s 75 kWh capacity or 11-12 miles of range. I guess in an emergency it has value but you would never want to transport the Delta Pro on a trip as it weighs 100 lbs. Always enjoy your videos, so keep it going. I typically use my Delta Pro during peak demand electrical use times and then charge it either with my 400 W portable solar panels or regular 110V electric outlet when the rates are low.
Someone so into EVs barely learning about these big power stations is kinda funny 😂
Explain please.
I own an Ecoflow 2kW unit and it has come in very handy during power failures and I plan to use it while camping this summer. Zendure Superbase is MUCH larger but I love it!
Your first test should be a 70mph range test on your Dad's TM3 RWD, with the battery pack in the trunk, and then run the car from 100% to absolute zero, then charge it with the battery pack to get to a charger.
I would think it would be interesting to have something like that or such in vehicle when you run tests. I have seen some range tests where people are worried about the last 1/2 mile back to a charging station . So having a portable recharge option to get you back to 1-2 % to get you back to a power station might be a good safety device because as seen on many range tests 1% battery left is not actual 1%.. also if the battery gets too low you might bump the power on it back up a bit to prevent damage to the cars battery. So adding a few videos of options that are portable might be reasonable to add to your channel. I have seen a video on another channel where they use a Ecoflow to power a tesla to get back to there home base
The Solar Panel connection would be neat to see. How do you fool the EVSE/Car to think it is grounded? Other brands like Bluetti and EcoFlow you have to "ground" it.
Portable, large batteries are cool but are not very practical for the price to just be another source of EV charging. However, if you lose power a lot and go camping often, then it could be justified.
That's some serious capacity. As I'm sure you know Bjorn used a pair of 2 kWh Ecoflows to do his until it stops tests, so the concept is definitely viable.
Yea me and my mom have a Palmer twosome and it goes for 10 miles with lead battery. I hope we can update it with better batteries!It Is the street legal only goes to 15 Miles you should look it up it was based in New York
I was wondering what type of battery chemistry is that battery? With that being about 150 pounds it could fit on the Palmer because it’s a twosome is a trike
This is great dual use for camping and backup home power.
About time! Bjorn has been using a portable battery for over a year.
"Unlike the Nissan Ariya" hahahaha
Also meant to mention seeing what appears to be a vintage Audi in your garage. I have a 1993 Audi S4
I love mine, just got the Tesla NEMA 6-20 plug shipped so I can charge my TM3 off the battery pack.
At 2:20----Battery trailer for extending the range and or dead battery rescue.
Really we just want Twizy content 😀
Oh, and more Labradors 🖤💛
Was waiting for someone to review this. Looks great!
I'm just here for the Twizy
I would love to get one of these but the price is too high. It’s not there fault but I am just going to need to wait till the price per KWH falls more.
Kyle, you are not allowed to upload another video to this channel until you upload a certain video on the Motoring Channel! I have to see what happened on that Cannonball!
Might have to wait until statute of limitations is up before we get that, generally people wait about a year before disclosing any cannonball run stories
It would be great to see someone do an efficiency test with it in modern EVs. How much extra mileage do you lose carrying the extra weight vs how much it can charge up and how fast. I am an ID4 owner that has been looking at these types of things for home backup and then toss in the trunk when I am road tripping and want extra security or convenience.
so the power bank has a 6.4kWh battery. Inverter- and charger losses, you get perhaps 4.8Kwh into your vehicle. So if you are using it for an emergency driving carefully, you can drive another 35km! Weight in a vehicle increases rolling resistance, but the increase is minuscule. extra weight also compresses the suspension more, lowers the vehicle, which decreases the frontal area, reducing aerodynamic drag. The extra weight of something like a power bank will require higher power draw during accelerations, so in stop and go traffic, the extra mass will cost you a slightly higher consumption.
@@Tore_Lund And if I were using it for home backup power I'd like have several of the battery extensions too. Maybe 2-3x power. Considering I am in a bit of a public charging desert, something like this is very appealing. Much more power than the EcoFlow Units.
I have the EcoFlow Pro 3600w and am able to charge my new Chevy Bolt EUV with it. So in a pinch these are great to have. Cheaper than the Zendure too..
The 4.6kwh model has LFP and is comparable to Ecoflow. I’m trying to figure pay which one to buy
Test it with common EVs and see how much charge you can get with each of them. Be a good idea to have one when you go on a trip and the one EV in your area is broken.
But how useful is a backup battery if you're not supposed to keep it above 60%?
it would be cool if AAA or other Insurance company add this kind of technology or tool into their services. Right now, if an EV (for some reason or another) depletes its battery - you call and it gets towed. With these, you can just charge for 30 mins (probably) or how ever many miles you need to the next charger. it would be cool.
I thought it was common for AAA or others to now have portable electricity station's for EV's that run out of power/range ?
You guys should have a Toy and Gadget channel. I'd watch it. Maybe call it Out of Spec Gadgets or something.
The main thing I thought was interesting from TeslaBjorn's use of similar units is "how does the car function when you DO run out of juice completely"
Just seems like a super-long test procedure, and I'm unsure of the ROI in terms of valuable information per unit time.
i would use it to run power equipment on construction sites... large lights, pressure washers, vibratory screeds, pins and hammers... everything that has been running small engines. Allot of those units run lawn mower engines b/c the batteries just don't pump out enough juice. This seems like a reasonable answer to many of them especially at 240v.
I know you will probably never ever sell this thing, but man would I like to buy one
Cool. DIY, offgrid, quiet emergency home power, range extender, booster charger for vehicles that run out. How effective in extreme cold or heat? Might be a bit heavy for kayaking, canoe, camping, portage.
Not just for testing. This is road confidence/ security…period. I took a Delta Pro 3..6 pack with me on a road trip last summer in EV West’s converted Type 2 panel van. We need to chat.
Favorite use case: Playing with the dogs!
I like everything on that Superbase but one critical thing is the low maximim voltage on the solar input of 150volt is old school many units are going to maximum solar input 500volt which makes series wring, conductor sizing of the solar DC supply and interconnecting the panels a lot more practical and more efficient, with less voltage losses.
Bingo. If your unit is this large you need to be on the same level as the all in one inverter chargers that have a 500VDC max input on PV
It's a portable 1/2 powerwall.
My suggestion is try charging it with an ioniq 5, while powering a house, so the ioniq 5 meets the base load average, but the unit works as the buffer for high peak loads and 240v applications. For me this is the way it should be, all EVs can then eventually be used as useful energy storage
10 years from now we’ll revisit this video and comment on how big and slow that portable battery charges.
I hope one day 6+kWh can be found in a battery the size of a big gulp and be found at any convenience store for a quick range boost.
I was hoping to see you actually pick it up
This is cooler than half the EVs out there 😂
These small battery banks are very cool as they bridge the gap for those who can’t or don’t want to go full solar and powerwall. They are great for RV’s and off grid cabins or for areas that are prone to power outages. They are super easy to use and can be hooked up to portable solar panels. They can run essential items in the house overnight when the sun has set.
I think they are totally stupid for use with EVs. Keeping these in the car as emergency backup is dumb as they are heavy and would hang around the car when I might use it once every few years.
I have the same cabinets that are behind you.
Kyle, from my perspective there is another use case for this type of device that Zendure doesn't mention on their web site and you didn't discuss in the video. We live in Florida which is the lighting capital of the country which also means that it is the power surge and dropout capital of the country. This plus the threat of hurricanes drives high adoption of whole house generators. They take care of the long electricity outage but there is a 30 to 60 second startup time for the whole house generator to kick in and a lot goes wrong associated with that delay. I have UPS's all over the house to try to deal with this issue on electronics but just about everything you plug in today has electronics in it. So if this can be used as a whole house UPS and have essentially no delay (like a good UPS is supposed to) that would be great.
My 20kw Generac has a 15-second delay which I was told was so the generator doesn't startup when there is just a power flicker.
UPS functionality has been a serious issue for a lot of the big players in this game.Doing it right isn't cheap. The Zendure SuperBase is new but its had some serious issues in its first round of deliveries and their development was a bit of a circus. Promising preorder customers certain functionalities and then realizing they overpromised.
You said both batteries are same capacity so plugGing the Superbase into the Twizzy would double the range. Technically it might double the capacity but the added weight would consume some of the capacity so not achieving double the range.
solar panel을 이용해 zendure에 충전이 가능한가요 ?
가능하다면 방법이나 기술을 알려주실수 있나요 ?
You said it yourself, T1 adapter US Type 1 plug to Euro Type 2 😁
I'd love an EV manufacturer that could integrate the ability to essentially do the same thing, utilizing the GIANT rolling battery to accept a charge from various sources including solar and then give a charge to various devices including a home.
The energy density and power delivery capability isn't there yet. Delivering the fast charge rates necessary can't be put in a mobile package currently.
Why don’t you do a range test with a fully packed ev with 4 people and cargo to see how the additional weight impacts the range.
Yeah that's a great little gadget. I've been building those for 15 years. Utilizing lithium-ion batteries and pure sine wave inverters. I had to use it not too long ago when the wife ran the leaf out of power. Worked great but mine only puts out three kw.
Is this unit described in the video capable of holding enough power to charge the 2019 Nissan Leaf Plus (with it's over 200 maximum range?)
(some people want to get an electric car, but there current wiring in the older homes requries 3K to 6K in upgrades anyway before they can entertain
level 2 charging at home, so maybe this is another option )
@@flolou8496 Most garages have 220 50amp, So just buy a J1772 for about 200.00 and done. You may have to run wire and install a breaker
Gotta love the doggies
I would be interested in seeing a video showing exactly how much range in an EV it is possible to get out of just out of Zendure. The video would work like this:
Step 1: Drive the car until it completely dies
Step 2: Charge the car with a full Zendure battery until the Zendure runs out
Step 3: Now, drive the car until it dies again, recording how far it can go.
For three, I think slow speed driving (~30 mph) is sufficient, since hopefully nobody receiving an emergency charge this way would drive on the freeway.
To the point of this video would be to see how well the car can receive and use energy at the very bottom of the battery pack. For instance, would it actually be able to use close to the full 6 kWh that the Zendure can hold before it runs out in step 3? Or, would the car die the second time much sooner than that, perhaps due to the voltage of some individual battery cell getting too low.
Love to see more accessories videos. Was there a price given? Link took me to the German language site, which I'm studying German so that's cool but I didn't see pricing.
There’s an English language option at the top, but prices are still in euros. 6,300 euros for the one he had.
Can we buy in 🇨🇦❓
Please send a Twizzy (sp?) link!
Looks like a Nluetto
I'm confused. Is he back with Alyssa?
Will we ever see a portable DC charger for EVs? That will eliminate inefficiency of converting from DC to AC at the Zendure followed by AC to DC at the vehicle.
Portable pushing 100kw+? That's gonna be a ways off in the future.
@@ericklein5097 Not 100kW, a 6-10kW unit like the Zendure. Jule makes a fixed100kW DC fast charger that is trickle charged when not in use. I've used it. But it is as big as a garage.
Based off the ads on their website, you're looking at $1100/kWh for disco-dancing dog-tormenting battery storage, and about $3,000/kW (in solar panels) to charge it back up again. Compare this to a group 24 AGM lead-acid battery, that comes in at roughly $200/kWh, but obviously lacks the brains and power-to-weight benefits of this Zendure unit.
U are the best youtuber i love ur videos 😊
When I clicked on the link it was in German. It looked like it was €4900.
How does this differ from an EcoFlow Delta Pro?
The EcoFlow only has 3.6kwh capacity, pushing out max 3,600w of power at 120V. This Zendure Superbase V not only has higher capacity and power output at lower price, but is also the industry’s first single unit with a 240v output, and can actually output from both 240v and 120v outlets at simultaneously! It’s definitely heavier though, somewhat stunting portability, but easy to roll around. Happy with mine :)
Could this power a Chevy Bolt … when parked. I live in a condo with no charging ability.
Only want it to keep Bolt powered to manage the battery so cooling / conditioning runs as needed when parked. To handle temperature extremes when unused.
Hope this extends the battery for us non-home chargers out there.
Ofcorse it can power your car. But where do you put it, where it can't be stolen? Not a good Idea ....
@@Bud_Terence some steel cables around it secure to the seat would work. Leaving the window open a crack would let water/weather in. Wish those who can’t plug in the EV at home had better options for keeping the battery conditioned when parked.
I don't think keeping it inside the car while charging the car would be a good idea. The battery is heavy, and lifting it in and out of the car, day after day, as you cycle between charging the battery and charging the car, is bound to take a toll on your body. I think a better approach would be to leave the battery on the ground next to the car and secure it to the car's door handle using a bike lock. This way, bringing the battery inside to charge it up is simply a matter of wheeling it to the building elevator and pushing the button.
However, even then, I'm don't think the benefit is sufficient to be worth the cost of the battery, given that 6 kWh per day is not a lot, the battery is expensive, and you'll still need access to some amount of public charging anyway. But, if the cost and weight of these portable batteries goes down in the future, I can definitely see them making quite a bit of sense.
@@ab-tf5fl at the value of this unit you'd see criminals going to extremes to steal something they could sell for a few thousand dollars.
how come no has built a electric rideing mower us the same batterys as the cars
Because the batteries for cars are custom and a riding lawn mower does not need 60+ KWH @ 350+ VDC. The modular battery systems most (all?) electric riding and zero-turn mowers come with are better suited for them.
Your puppies not liking to robot.🤣🤣
Use an E-GMP car to charge it and have it charge the Hoopty Leaf
NCM is a no go pretty useless for long term use.
$5k 😂
Way. Over. Priced.
Even on sale.
wait so this is an ad??
Am I the only one asking myself why can you drive this thing??
This stupid thing costs like $6,000.00 - no thanks.
Cheaper than 2 bluetti AC300's or 2 Ecoflow Delta Pros
Lol, yeah, no...
All new technologies start out expensive. The price will need to go down a lot to make them useful beyond niche products. I, myself, would want about a 10-fold price drop (from $6000 to $600) before I would consider one.
No not this thing. Zendure is super shady. They absolutely shafted some of their customers when it came to what they promised in capabilities. The Facebook group isi a shitshow. I watched them ban a guy who pointed out errors in some of their literature re single phase vs three phase. While not as much of a shitshow as Bluetti they are defiinitely having problems with with the first deliveries.
way not do to dc :D fast ch
if they want the poor to embrace electric cars .they will need to build a bare bones .electric car with no bells and whistles .with range and speed and make it affordable. for the average driver
Nobody -- not one single solitary human being involved with anything to do with "battery electric vehicles" -- cares the slightest bit about "normal" people who will never be able to afford any of this stuff. "Those sub-humans can take the bus."
@@tomhoots ok lucifer . only he talks to me in them terms .or his servant .
You are not a battery channel