The drums sound great. Nice to see a bit of the group processing. And nice to see more of them, their live set on this channel was quite complex in how tools were put together, but the workflow they got out of it seemed pretty straightforward.
@@adamserafin9969 Hi, thank you for the question (: The main reason for multiple drivers in studio monitors (in our case 2-way monitors) is that different size speakers handle specific frequency ranges better than others. So we have Genelec 8020 and Genelec 8040/ Many years ago Johannes (J.Manuel) bought the little ones also to use it in the flat without to have a problems with the neighbors, because the speakers have not so deep bass (:
@@SKRDyaheard Hey SKRD :) thx! The Octa track is mainly used for playing live, but also as Thrue machine (like Fx Processor) Drum machine Sequenzer, or splicing up Drumbreaks :) My favourite hardware? I would say my computer as it is a hardware but to answer the question as meant I would probably say the modular of course :)
Danke für den interessanten Einblick und den super sweeten Kommentar! Es ist immer wieder eine Freude euch beim Musik machen zuzuschauen und man lernt auch echt was dazu😘 Meine Frage wäre: Was ist eurer Meinung nach das Beste, um seine Hardware-Skills - vor allem am Eurorack - zu verbessern? Habt ihr gewisse Übungsroutinen oder einen anderen heißen Tipp? Mich würde eine Antwort von jedem von euch interessieren. Vielleicht geht ihr da ja anders ran😉 Grüßle aus Augsburg
haha yeah that's right! It seems a little overwhelming, but the structure it is build on and organised is quite simple at least for how we do stuff in general :)
Thanks for breaking this down and offering space for further questions. I guess I'd ask what your approach is like when receiving stems for a remix? Listen to and analyse all stems, or focus in on particular elements you enjoy about the track? Or more designed - like standing back and knowing what you want to do before even looking at the individual elements provided? Also do you feel like you have to use a certain amount of audio from the original track?
Hey Yoker(: Thanks for the question, there is a story about Aphex Twin sending in a random old track as a remix on request... We´ve not done this much remixing, but we enjoy it very very much. I think that depends. For us in thos case it was just us having fun with the stems, trying out things like sending this through that or that. Or challeging stuff like only making the pads out of the original melodie and how to make that happen. At first we just had fun we the material given and than looked what we wanted to archive. For us it was clear at a point we want to use the vocal as it is, ofcourse we treated the recording and made some little cuts to emphase certain situation/
Great video for a very great track and remix, would love to see more of you guys, maybe even more detailed!:) How do you approach mixing / mastering your tracks so they translate well to other systems? I noticed your studio does not seem to be treated acoustically in any way, so I wondered:) Also: Where did you get your modular cables? Maybe it is the color grading of the video, but I've been looking for cables in a more dampened / pastel tone like you have on your system for ages :)
Hey Atlas909 :) Yes our room is not treated, we are lucky as it sounds quite ok, no standing waves, no frequencies that I miss. The Sofa and book shelf are doing a lot already but room treatment is on our list. We have access to some studios that are very well treated with great listening systems but we use a lot of different pairs of headphones, that we know and trust like the dt1990 etc.
Hi, thank you for the question (: I will covering the second part of your question: We have really standard cables from @schneidersladen / also we have tiptop & make noise ✨ Hmmm, about the pastel colors>> yes I think I saw such somewhere…
Nice job..Just wondering about the logic of two pairs of similar monitors? Also, do you do a final mix down or check the mix in a more controlled environment?
Hey well there is no real logic behind besides we like the sound of Genelec Speakers and the 8020 I got many years ago, as they are not annoying the neighbours that much and I could afford nothing much bigger at that time. The 8040 are a good compromise for the room, as they fit the need are not to much in volume and don't go too deep, so the building will stay in its parts. still using the smaller 8020 pretty often...But they also move around in the flat for DJing for example. For the mixdown- We have access to some very well studios and we use that and listen back to the stuff, maybe take some notes or so... Obesely we use a lot of headphones- different headphones from Beyer Dynamics, my old trusty Sennheisers etc.. The acoustic will be treated sooner or later, hopefully sooner (its not that cheap, even DiY) but as we use many pairs of headphones and can listen back in other places and our room is not that bad as it seems it works so far. At home 95%-98% of mixing work is done.
Sounds amazing! Question: besides what you’ve shown us, what’s your go-to tricks to make a kick powerful? My issue is that sometimes the more I saturate/ distort/ limit the kick the weaker it sounds as it loses the transients. I see in the video you have quite a bit of processing for the kick, so how do you achieve the sweet spot that you aim for? Are there any frequencies that you pay attention to in particular?
Hey, many go to tricks are shown in this video, most of them You can only see for a few seconds on screen, so I will try to break this down a little. We use layering of course. Samplers are the go to for us as we have access to pitch envelope, filter envelopes, saturation pre envelope, velocity... Moving the start marker of a sample can also do a lot.
The A bit warmer preset from the Ableton Saturator is a bit we use very often without thinking, we might take it down again later. Lots of (sometimes subtile) compression, different compressors with different aims.
Might not be the "pro" way but for example one that squeezes the kick and another one that aims more to bring out the transient. The Pultec- trick is also often used (in this case not). I would recommend watching tutorials and read the manual of the exact compressors in use.
Mulitband compression- like the one from Ableton or C4 from Waves, or the one from Farbfilter. On the Group of the drums, and compressors that are more used to glue things together.
Die Trackanzahl sagt eben nichts über die Qualität von musikalischen Stücken aus. Detailreichtum und Komplexität kann auf zahlreichen Wegen erschaffen werden.
man... I love music, I love seeing how it is done. It is impressive. Great video. I mean it, watched it multiple times. but man, I really, really hate artists and those two remind me of it. Can not even put my finger on what antagonises me so much.....it's like an instinct
Thank you very much for watching & the support!! 🖤🙏
If you have some questions please let us know 😎🌈✨
This is a suuuuuper helpful video! Would be great to see more deconstruction videos!
This is brilliant you guys. Very impressed with everything you've done. Awesome!!
Thank You very much Leon! Means a lot :)
Thank you very much!!!!! 👽💜
The drums sound great. Nice to see a bit of the group processing. And nice to see more of them, their live set on this channel was quite complex in how tools were put together, but the workflow they got out of it seemed pretty straightforward.
Thank You very much! :) If You have any question let us know :))
Amazing
Big thx to Thomann Syntheziser, for having us
What is the idea behind having two pairs of different size genelecs there? Thanks!!
@@adamserafin9969 Hi, thank you for the question (: The main reason for multiple drivers in studio monitors (in our case 2-way monitors) is that different size speakers handle specific frequency ranges better than others. So we have Genelec 8020 and Genelec 8040/
Many years ago Johannes (J.Manuel) bought the little ones also to use it in the flat without to have a problems with the neighbors, because the speakers have not so deep bass (:
Super interesting gear! How do u use the Octatrack? and whats your favorite hardwarE?
@@SKRDyaheard Hey SKRD :) thx! The Octa track is mainly used for playing live, but also as Thrue machine (like Fx Processor) Drum machine Sequenzer, or splicing up Drumbreaks :) My favourite hardware? I would say my computer as it is a hardware but to answer the question as meant I would probably say the modular of course :)
Danke für den interessanten Einblick und den super sweeten Kommentar!
Es ist immer wieder eine Freude euch beim Musik machen zuzuschauen und man lernt auch echt was dazu😘
Meine Frage wäre:
Was ist eurer Meinung nach das Beste, um seine Hardware-Skills - vor allem am Eurorack - zu verbessern? Habt ihr gewisse Übungsroutinen oder einen anderen heißen Tipp? Mich würde eine Antwort von jedem von euch interessieren. Vielleicht geht ihr da ja anders ran😉
Grüßle aus Augsburg
Nice, very interesting video!
I'd like to see more of these, I'm particularly curious to techno producers.
Brilliant!!
Thank You Oora :) Enjoying Your Channel very much !
amazing drums guys
Next level sounddesign for sure 🙀
👽 thank you 🙈
Sehr wichtig und geil.
"The project is structured quite simple: It has 112 tracks [...]"
🤣 (no offense intended)
Actually: Such dissection videos are very interesting. 💖
haha yeah that's right! It seems a little overwhelming, but the structure it is build on and organised is quite simple at least for how we do stuff in general :)
@@j.manuel7835
In the first moment it was - for me - just: "Whaaaaat?!?" 😉
Thanks so much for this breakdown and workflow details. Drums are so dam good. Clever use of Plaits for that lovely kick!
This was amazing!
Thank You 🙏 😊
Thank you very much!!!😇✨
Sick!!!
Thanks for breaking this down and offering space for further questions. I guess I'd ask what your approach is like when receiving stems for a remix? Listen to and analyse all stems, or focus in on particular elements you enjoy about the track? Or more designed - like standing back and knowing what you want to do before even looking at the individual elements provided? Also do you feel like you have to use a certain amount of audio from the original track?
Hey Yoker(:
Thanks for the question, there is a story about Aphex Twin sending in a random old track as a remix on request...
We´ve not done this much remixing, but we enjoy it very very much. I think that depends. For us in thos case it was just us having fun with the stems, trying out things like sending this through that or that. Or challeging stuff like only making the pads out of the original melodie and how to make that happen. At first we just had fun we the material given and than looked what we wanted to archive. For us it was clear at a point we want to use the vocal as it is, ofcourse we treated the recording and made some little cuts to emphase certain situation/
@@annaz7649 thanks for the detailed response Anna, much appreciated!
Remix, Modular Synth und Techniken schön und gut, aber wie süß ist eure Katze! 😻 Darüber spricht mal wieder niemand hier!
Great video for a very great track and remix, would love to see more of you guys, maybe even more detailed!:) How do you approach mixing / mastering your tracks so they translate well to other systems? I noticed your studio does not seem to be treated acoustically in any way, so I wondered:) Also: Where did you get your modular cables? Maybe it is the color grading of the video, but I've been looking for cables in a more dampened / pastel tone like you have on your system for ages :)
Hey Atlas909 :) Yes our room is not treated, we are lucky as it sounds quite ok, no standing waves, no frequencies that I miss. The Sofa and book shelf are doing a lot already but room treatment is on our list. We have access to some studios that are very well treated with great listening systems but we use a lot of different pairs of headphones, that we know and trust like the dt1990 etc.
Hi, thank you for the question (: I will covering the second part of your question:
We have really standard cables from @schneidersladen / also we have tiptop & make noise ✨
Hmmm, about the pastel colors>> yes I think I saw such somewhere…
Nice job..Just wondering about the logic of two pairs of similar monitors? Also, do you do a final mix down or check the mix in a more controlled environment?
Hey well there is no real logic behind besides we like the sound of Genelec Speakers and the 8020 I got many years ago, as they are not annoying the neighbours that much and I could afford nothing much bigger at that time. The 8040 are a good compromise for the room, as they fit the need are not to much in volume and don't go too deep, so the building will stay in its parts. still using the smaller 8020 pretty often...But they also move around in the flat for DJing for example.
For the mixdown- We have access to some very well studios and we use that and listen back to the stuff, maybe take some notes or so...
Obesely we use a lot of headphones- different headphones from Beyer Dynamics, my old trusty Sennheisers etc..
The acoustic will be treated sooner or later, hopefully sooner (its not that cheap, even DiY) but as we use many pairs of headphones and can listen back in other places and our room is not that bad as it seems it works so far.
At home 95%-98% of mixing work is done.
😍😍😍
Sounds amazing! Question: besides what you’ve shown us, what’s your go-to tricks to make a kick powerful? My issue is that sometimes the more I saturate/ distort/ limit the kick the weaker it sounds as it loses the transients. I see in the video you have quite a bit of processing for the kick, so how do you achieve the sweet spot that you aim for? Are there any frequencies that you pay attention to in particular?
Hey,
many go to tricks are shown in this video, most of them You can only see for a few seconds on screen, so I will try to break this down a little.
We use layering of course. Samplers are the go to for us as we have access to pitch envelope, filter envelopes, saturation pre envelope, velocity... Moving the start marker of a sample can also do a lot.
The A bit warmer preset from the Ableton Saturator is a bit we use very often without thinking, we might take it down again later.
Lots of (sometimes subtile) compression, different compressors with different aims.
Might not be the "pro" way but for example one that squeezes the kick and another one that aims more to bring out the transient.
The Pultec- trick is also often used (in this case not). I would recommend watching tutorials and read the manual of the exact compressors in use.
Mulitband compression- like the one from Ableton or C4 from Waves, or the one from Farbfilter. On the Group of the drums, and compressors that are more used to glue things together.
Taking out some frequencies can do a lot of change... hope this answers your question a bit :D
Ich finde es echt cool. Ich habe nur 8 tracks in ableton. Und mache darmit auch musik 🇩🇰
Die Trackanzahl sagt eben nichts über die Qualität von musikalischen Stücken aus. Detailreichtum und Komplexität kann auf zahlreichen Wegen erschaffen werden.
3 compressors, and Glue with default parameters >_
If it works, it works :D
interesting what our generations calls "romantic"
man...
I love music, I love seeing how it is done. It is impressive. Great video. I mean it, watched it multiple times.
but man, I really, really hate artists and those two remind me of it. Can not even put my finger on what antagonises me so much.....it's like an instinct