GRAND! Seeing my very own computer assembly which i had 20 years ago. Even the brands, Asus and Sapphire are the same. I happened to have a great case regardless of it's cheapness. Blue acrylic case, no-brand, but so good i used it for 4 future generations. Note: You didn't have to take the AGP Pro sticker out, since 3850 isn't a pro card. Only developer cards such as Tesla had pro extension back then, regular gaming cards didn't require it. It's AGP port was overclockable till 99Hz and when I switched to 4670 with AGP bridge, I had to cool down the AGP bridge on graphics card and NB cooler on mobo with different heatsinks. My AGP was giving more performance than PCI-ex cards in time, since AGP used 64 bits (Pro 72-bits) bus line, with 33MHz difference (66 on agp vs 100 on pcie), so when you boosted to same Hz, AGP 8x was even faster than PCIe 16x
Great video! Thanks to you, I just bought Wolfenstein Enemy Territory to get my mediocre "Flea Market" Pentium 4 Dell E310 in the community, Can't wait to play.
That's awesome, I'm happy to hear that. It does feel a little more fun being competitive on a much older computer than everyone else. I'm really glad you enjoyed the video, and I hope you have a wonderful day.
Really nice 478 build, i think an older gpu will fit better btw, like 6800 Ultra AGP or x850XT, or even from the previous gen like 5950 Ultra/9800Pro will result in a more period correct build
You install the SSD into the mounting bracket first before mounting it, you install the cables to the SSD after you install it. I have the Snappy Driver CD which is really handing for installing all the drivers for Windows XP, I install the video and sound drivers separately as I have a Sound Blaster Hi Fi also, I have these and all my game updates on a USB.
over a thousands of video games from any genre , released in late 90's and early 2000's are compatible with socket 478 CPUs . some of them have impressive 3D graphics
I think the last upgrade probably should be a asus ct-479 + pentium mobile, i read from reviews of the epoque in games it double de frame rate to the pentium 4...but found one of these adapters is = found a gold mine.
The stock cooler of this Radeon is not sufficient. I measured above 80°C under load, even with cleaning and thermal paste change. I had a Deepcool V90 cooler, strapped to an old card, so I put it on the HD3850 and the temps dropped to 60°C. Also vram heatsinks and possibly a bridge chip heatsink.
More like how to create the ultimate cpu bottleneck. The gpu driver overhead of a way too new radeon hd next to no driver optimization for older games doesn't really help.
It looks like it should be able to handle it fairly well, the CPU will be the bottleneck most likely but I would assume it would run at low settings .The P4 EE has surprised me so far with performance.
The 3.4ghz extreme edition would be a bit better. You could also try the 3.4 ghz Prescott cpu , it is 64 bit and has a bit more compatibility, but at a cost of less overall cache and higher temperatures.
since this thing is older than me and i needed a build that could run windows 98 without any stability prob here i am wondering how the fck we build it. Im gonna go for a pentium 4 1.8Ghz since i found it for 0.9$ but the rest is the same x)
For the money they demand for these processors, you can buy a used Ryzen 9.🤣Alas, before we couldn’t afford it because we were children, but now we can’t afford it because idiots turn things into treasure.
8 pin, not a 6 pin for gpu power cable in gpu package at 7:20, when you connect psu cable to gpu, you said it correctly, you connected wrongly cpu cooler to PWR_FAN header not a CPU_FAN, even bios yelling it on you at first boot, you don't need to remove yellow sticker away, until you have agp pro card, which you probably never seen, i didn't, did you removed after that little white plastic? :D also they are still drivers on asus website, if you want to install windows xp on sata, you need to put drivers on floppy, or modify windows installation with special tools, that why you didn't get normal windows to your pc and was forced to install integral one... also you have wrong DRAM frequency, so your FSB:DRAM is not 1:1... using DRILL, for screwing is like using hummer h1 with minigun on roof for grocery shopping... btw your cpu will enjoy "healthy conditions" with such a small cooler, intel p4, especially at high frequencies, was hot like a hell... so sorry, but this video is one big nonsense, you did many things wrong and this video is about how to NOT build a pc, i wants to be polite, but you showed here your absolutely incompetence here... try to take it like a positive commentary and be better next time... gl & hf ;-) BTW put there something like Radeon 9600-9800, x800 or x850, gf 5 or 6 series, put there pata HDD, and put there an windows 98, and then call it Ultimate Windows 98 PC, this will be correct... so many mistakes, it broke my heart 🙂 about trim on ssd i don't say anything, coz you install windows 7 on it
You claim he made all these mistakes, but here he is with a working computer to prove he did it right. Where's your video? How do we know anything you would have done would have ended up in a working PC? I can say for sure most of what you said is BS lol but I'm not going to make a wall of text to say so, it's obvious already. You're a poser 😂
GRAND! Seeing my very own computer assembly which i had 20 years ago. Even the brands, Asus and Sapphire are the same. I happened to have a great case regardless of it's cheapness. Blue acrylic case, no-brand, but so good i used it for 4 future generations.
Note: You didn't have to take the AGP Pro sticker out, since 3850 isn't a pro card. Only developer cards such as Tesla had pro extension back then, regular gaming cards didn't require it.
It's AGP port was overclockable till 99Hz and when I switched to 4670 with AGP bridge, I had to cool down the AGP bridge on graphics card and NB cooler on mobo with different heatsinks. My AGP was giving more performance than PCI-ex cards in time, since AGP used 64 bits (Pro 72-bits) bus line, with 33MHz difference (66 on agp vs 100 on pcie), so when you boosted to same Hz, AGP 8x was even faster than PCIe 16x
Oh very cool! I'm very happy you enjoyed the video. I appreciate the advice as well.
Great video! Thanks to you, I just bought Wolfenstein Enemy Territory to get my mediocre "Flea Market" Pentium 4 Dell E310 in the community, Can't wait to play.
That's awesome, I'm happy to hear that. It does feel a little more fun being competitive on a much older computer than everyone else. I'm really glad you enjoyed the video, and I hope you have a wonderful day.
@@SkillsandTrade Same to you.😎
Dream system right there! Planning on building a weaker one but w/ a normal pres-hot and a 4670
Very cool! Good luck on the build
Really nice 478 build, i think an older gpu will fit better btw, like 6800 Ultra AGP or x850XT, or even from the previous gen like 5950 Ultra/9800Pro will result in a more period correct build
Thank you very much! I'm happy you enjoyed it and will keep your ideas in mind for future videos.
You install the SSD into the mounting bracket first before mounting it, you install the cables to the SSD after you install it. I have the Snappy Driver CD which is really handing for installing all the drivers for Windows XP, I install the video and sound drivers separately as I have a Sound Blaster Hi Fi also, I have these and all my game updates on a USB.
I appreciate the advice, thanks for checking out my video
Super jealous of your cpu, those things are ridiculous priced today haha.
I had no idea such an old computer could still be used for gaming! Very informative!😃
over a thousands of video games from any genre , released in late 90's and early 2000's are compatible with socket 478 CPUs . some of them have impressive 3D graphics
@@tunkunrunk awesome thanks for the info! might save me some money
I think the last upgrade probably should be a asus ct-479 + pentium mobile, i read from reviews of the epoque in games it double de frame rate to the pentium 4...but found one of these adapters is = found a gold mine.
I appreciate the idea, it is interesting to use a mobile Pentium CPU. I'll just need to find one of those adapters or a compatible motherboard. Thanks
The stock cooler of this Radeon is not sufficient. I measured above 80°C under load, even with cleaning and thermal paste change. I had a Deepcool V90 cooler, strapped to an old card, so I put it on the HD3850 and the temps dropped to 60°C. Also vram heatsinks and possibly a bridge chip heatsink.
Very interesting, thank you
@@SkillsandTrade It's a very reliable gpu too. I bought it in 2016, second hand and use it to this day.
Can you post the exact power supply model you used?
Thermaltake TR2 500W ATX 12 V2.3 Power Supply, I included a link in my description for you.
More like how to create the ultimate cpu bottleneck. The gpu driver overhead of a way too new radeon hd next to no driver optimization for older games doesn't really help.
I build one with xtreme edition cpu for a friend of myn in 2006. Also that compaq keyboard I had it came wit h my first pc😆😆
That's very cool, and nice to hear that.
Can u send a link for the cpu fan
I updated my description with a link to the CPU fan.
Yes the ultimate.Chipset , cpu , gpu are fastest possible. But perhaps GeForce 6800 ultra would suit better., that would be perfection
Celeron n2808 windows 7 evaluation cpu 4.4
Good vid, I was about to build something similar but idk if it will run gta 4 so
It looks like it should be able to handle it fairly well, the CPU will be the bottleneck most likely but I would assume it would run at low settings .The P4 EE has surprised me so far with performance.
@@SkillsandTrade are there any other more powerful 478 cpus? I mean from what ik it will struggle with a 720p UA-cam video
The 3.4ghz extreme edition would be a bit better. You could also try the 3.4 ghz Prescott cpu , it is 64 bit and has a bit more compatibility, but at a cost of less overall cache and higher temperatures.
@@SkillsandTrade I wanna put on a 478 build with 4 gigs of ddr 2 and the fastest cpu, I will also use a pcie card
I appreciate the insight, have a great day.
Do some Benchs bro!
I'll keep that in mind for sure in a future video, thanks for watching
Ultimate? You're sure?
since this thing is older than me and i needed a build that could run windows 98 without any stability prob here i am wondering how the fck we build it. Im gonna go for a pentium 4 1.8Ghz since i found it for 0.9$ but the rest is the same x)
It should be mostly the same as it would be a socket 478 as well. One of these days I might make another video with a Windows 98 on Pentium 4
they were branding motherboards with ai before it even revolutionized
For the money they demand for these processors, you can buy a used Ryzen 9.🤣Alas, before we couldn’t afford it because we were children, but now we can’t afford it because idiots turn things into treasure.
Dankeshun
You don't need to dual boot XP and Win7. Win7 has a built in XP mode which is totally compatible with XP.
running XP mode on 7 would be slower than running actual XP.
8 pin, not a 6 pin for gpu power cable in gpu package at 7:20, when you connect psu cable to gpu, you said it correctly, you connected wrongly cpu cooler to PWR_FAN header not a CPU_FAN, even bios yelling it on you at first boot, you don't need to remove yellow sticker away, until you have agp pro card, which you probably never seen, i didn't, did you removed after that little white plastic? :D also they are still drivers on asus website, if you want to install windows xp on sata, you need to put drivers on floppy, or modify windows installation with special tools, that why you didn't get normal windows to your pc and was forced to install integral one... also you have wrong DRAM frequency, so your FSB:DRAM is not 1:1... using DRILL, for screwing is like using hummer h1 with minigun on roof for grocery shopping... btw your cpu will enjoy "healthy conditions" with such a small cooler, intel p4, especially at high frequencies, was hot like a hell... so sorry, but this video is one big nonsense, you did many things wrong and this video is about how to NOT build a pc, i wants to be polite, but you showed here your absolutely incompetence here... try to take it like a positive commentary and be better next time... gl & hf ;-)
BTW put there something like Radeon 9600-9800, x800 or x850, gf 5 or 6 series, put there pata HDD, and put there an windows 98, and then call it Ultimate Windows 98 PC, this will be correct... so many mistakes, it broke my heart 🙂 about trim on ssd i don't say anything, coz you install windows 7 on it
You claim he made all these mistakes, but here he is with a working computer to prove he did it right. Where's your video? How do we know anything you would have done would have ended up in a working PC? I can say for sure most of what you said is BS lol but I'm not going to make a wall of text to say so, it's obvious already. You're a poser 😂
HAHAHA proof that Asus invented Ai back in the day...