This movie is unironically amazing. So many great and hilarious scenes. The birth of sandman, Peter waking up in the black suit, the fight between black suited Spiderman and sandman, cookies with nuts, Peter and Harry's fight in the mansion, and the magnus opus, Evil Peter's dancing.
I appreciate Sam's interpretation of The Symbiote. He was never a Venom fan so it "Emphasizing someone's nature" isn't just in line with the retcons that The 90s Animated Series made to how The Symbiote corrupts the personality, but ALSO in line with how Symbiotes were corrupt but could be purified to improve their host later on before Donny Cates' run.
Well considering how every time Peter tried to explain Harry wouldn’t listen and/or tried stabbing him, the butler is still stupid so in I think the directors cut Harry just forgives Peter on his own
Actually he did tell him, in the middle of their fight but Harry called him a liar. It took his butler to tell him the truth since he was the one who cleaned up Norman's wounds and confirmed his own glider killed him. I guess the only reason he didn't tell Harry was because he assumed Harry didn't know about Norman's villain character.
you can tell they had planned to split the cgi work budget evenly between harry-goblin and sandman, until they had to divide the goblin half with venom after avi arad cried and pissed and shitted his pants to get venom into the movie
all they had to do was save him for 4 that scene where venom is born and then jumpscares you? move some events around and put that at the end, bam sequel hook
It's NUTS to me that people are pissing and shitting their pants about wanting Avi Arad out over one bad decision from 17 years ago, as if he hasn't also produced some of the best superhero films.
It’s so funny that in the first Spider-Man movie those goblin grenades turned a whole balcony of people into skeletons but in this one it just slightly inconvenienced Harry. He survived the grenade in the first movie too I guess, maybe he’s just immune to disintegration
Fun fact: Eddie was originally supposed to be LITERALLY consumed by venom; found out after Peter pulled Eddie out of venom, and than venom tried to remerge with Peter until metal bars were yanked down by Peter and they disintegrate venom via too much sound.
@@leithaziz2716No, it's more like the Mega Venom multiplied to the point where if you choose the good ending, Venom heroically sacrifices himself to save NY because of Peter
Venom got aggressive so much that it ate Eddie's entire flesh and organs and only left nothing but his skeleton. His death end with a skull being pierced by one of the metal pipes.
I think Venom would have turned out way better if instead of Eddie, it was Jameson's son who got the symbiote. He definitely already hates Peter for stealing Mary Jane in the last movie, so that would be a better motivation than Eddue had in this movie.
Bully Maguire is truly the character of all time, and the dance number is the scene of all time. It's a shame that Spider-Man 4 was canceled, imagine how much more of a movie of all time it could've been
Avi Arad: "Put Venom. It sells more toys." Sam Raimi: "But I have everything planned out already. If I put Venom, it will be too crowded." Avi Arad: "I don't care. Put Venom." Sam Raimi: "But..." Avi Arad: "Put Venom or I'm gonna put some dirt in your eyes." Sam Raimi: "Okay, you want Venom? I'll give you Venom!!! Ashole."
At least Sony learned their lesson where they make the venom film series which take place in its own universe that wasn't connected to previous spider man films
14:07 remember. Mj cheated on Harry with Spider-Man, then the day of his funeral, got with Peter, who knows she’s for the streets, then got engaged with a new man who’s better in every way, tried to get Peter to kiss her, LEFT HER FIANCÉE AT THE ALTER, got with Peter, then got jealous and went back to her ex who she had originally cheated on. Saying that she’s for the streets is an insult to the streets
1. This movie is just plain hillarious, both intentionally and unintentionally. 2. Despite this movie's issues, I think we can all agree that the scene of Sandman literally pulling himself back together for the sake of his daughter was *beautiful* 3. The saddest part is that I have no doubt in my mind that Sam Raimi could have done Venom justice had he not been forced to stuff him into an alredy overstuffed movie. Peter's dark side *Bully Maguire* going from an egomaniacal dork who thinks he's the hottest thing since sliced bread to a violent sociopath is honestly fitting, as it shows that it takes time for the symbiote to truly start corrupting Peter. In fact the scene at 13:20 was supposed to have a small jumpscare to show what Peter was going to turn into had he kept wearing the suit to really show why he was scared of it. 4. To be fair to this movie, I do like that it kept a consistent theme along with the rest of the trilogy. The 1st movie was Peter's origin and him internalising the lesson Uncle Ben taught him The 2nd movie was Peter struggling with the fact that he can't have it all and that him being Spiderman made his personal life *hell* , but that he keeps at it anyway because its just the right thing to do. Its not always easy and requires sacrifices, but its the life Peter chose and his conscience won't let him just walk away Then in this one, Peter is unironically living his best life. He's finally with MJ, the city loves Spiderman and he feels like he's at the top of the world. But Peter's own ego causes this carefully stacked deck of cards to fall down. 5. I really do wonder what that theoretical Spiderman 4 would have been tho. Especially with Vulture as the villain.
Now that I'm older, I've come to realize that they SEVERLY underutilized Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen in this movie. She was some good milk in this movie.
Unpopular opinion, but I really liked how symbiote looks in Spider Man 3 compared to the Venom films. As scrawny as he looked, I genuinely loved how vicious and terrifying they made Venom, and the way the symbiote moves around is haunting. Like instead of just some sentient black goo, it's a alien that creeps around with its tendrils sticking to your skin like an actual parasite. You can feel how unnatural and otherworldly the symbiote is.
14:16 MJ is literally the worst in these movies. In the first movie she tried to get with 3 people, then in the second film she kept giving I want you eyes to Peter while Sleeping with Jay Jona’s son, and now all because of Spider-man, she tries to cheat on Peter
6:51 that whole building wreaking scene is probably how some would react honestly. You see something spinning out of control but don't think of the fact that it'd hurt you in the next few seconds till later
23:49 1. He took a serum that gives him super powers that rival Spiderman 2. Peter survived a point-blank grenade too in the first one (and extra, MCU Peter also withstood a grenade to the chest)
19:22 he cared about journalistic integrity since the first movie, even when the green goblin threatened his life, he wouldn't give the name of spider-man's photographer; peter parker
I remember watching these as a child thinking they were the best superhero movies ever. Now as an adult I want to stand by that statement based on just how absurdly bad and funny they are 😂😂😂
Sandman is honestly one of my favorite spiderman villians (not my first, but a close second). The whole scene where he puts himself back together for his daughter was beautiful
17:34 What makes this scene even funnier is that even the dude behind Harry in the background turns around and looks down which practically confirms that he literally just dropped down under the table and the dude is like "What the fuck??"😭
The abrupt entrance of the symbiote meteor is probably due to them not even putting Venom in the movie at first. Sandman was supposed to be the main villain for the entire movie, but the studio wanted to add Venom, which Raimi also knew almost nothing about, and you can definitely see how that went
There were a lot of ideas in the early scripts of the movie that didn’t make it into the final cut but was used in the Spider-Man 3 novelisation. One of these things was this unnamed doctor character who was a part of Sandman’s story. Flint Marko’s daughter, Penny, was actually had an unknown terminal illness and doesn’t have much time left. Marko was paying the doctor to research the illness to find a cure and resorted to becoming a robber to keep funding the expensive research. In the scene where he teams up with Venom in the novelisation (which was part of a deleted scene), Marko was playing with his daughter by forming himself into a sand castle. Eddie shows up after Penny leaves and manipulates Marko by preying on his emotions and desperation to save his daughter, convincing him Spider-Man will keep getting in his way and he has to kill him. In the novelisation of the final battle, Sandman was about to kill Spider-Man but his wife, daughter and the doctor show up to stop him and the doctor tells Marko that it’s impossible to save Penny and she’s going to die no matter what, causing Marko to give up and confess that Uncle Ben’s death was an accident like in the original film. I was actually hoping that they’d actually use Penny dying in Spider-Man No Way Home, maybe have Norman tell Sandman that his goblin serum could save Penny to convince him to side with the villains and maybe have the three Peters create a cure for Penny’s illness along with the other cures for the villains. Another thing from the novelisation was that Raimi’s version of the Venom Symbiote is actually a parasite that drains and kills its host. In the novel’s version of the final battle, after Venom kills Harry, the Symbiote separates itself from Eddie revealing that Eddie was dead the whole time during the fight and all that was left was his skeleton (as well as revealing that the Symbiote was imitating Eddie’s voice during the fight) and tries to rebond itself to Peter. The Symbiote’s motivation was to make Peter it’s host again because, due to Peter being superhuman, he was able to stay bonded to the Symbiote and not die from the Symbiote parasitically draining him. For comparison, Peter was bonded to the Symbiote for weeks was still healthy and living, while Eddie was bonded to the Symbiote for a few hours was reduced to a skeleton.
23:44 funnily enough, Sandman was suppose to be the villain for this movie and there would've been a fourth one for Venom, but it was changed last minute to this
Ok to the Editor if you see this the edit of 26:15 with James going back and forth hitting the web combined with that commentary had me crying from laughing.
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Wow i could watch the entire video or just guess
Do Godzilla next pls
Over the Garden Wall is a good show, pls check it out
I hope you guys watch Craig of the Creek someday, that show has plenty of thumbnail moments
I got to see your reaction to the Sandman emerging from the sand scene.
You know their reaction is insane when it’s 30 minutes long for just one movie
Honestly
I seriously never seen them laugh this hard
@@joelester460I have I forgot wich one but they kept laughing and couldn't stop and kept laughing randomly after bringing it back up
As soon as I saw the runtime I thought the same thing
If you watch it 48 times in a row, you win!
Franco as Harry Osborn was just devious face expressions for 40 percent of the movie.
he was pretty good in this movie, he sucked in the 2nd one lmao
I love Eden's slow transformation into Marvel editorial whenever he watches spider man content
The moment they start a Spider-Man reaction he just gets possessed by the spirit of Joe Quesada
like what's up danger
@@PPinho2711 and Joe still alive.
@@mikhaelgribkov4117 his will is so strong he astral projects into Eden
This movie is unironically amazing. So many great and hilarious scenes. The birth of sandman, Peter waking up in the black suit, the fight between black suited Spiderman and sandman, cookies with nuts, Peter and Harry's fight in the mansion, and the magnus opus, Evil Peter's dancing.
That dance is iconic.
It's so good.
@@watershipup7101 So is the cookie scene.
The black suit theme is one of my favourites of all time
Bro I see u everywhere. In cblooms comments and here
Best part of this movie is Peter telling Eddie to “get religion” then Eddie goes and asks god to KILL PETER 😂
And then God went, "alright, I'll give you a little something."
god was on his edgy old testament phase that night
I’m pretty sure in the original comic, he went to the church to beg God for forgiveness before he committed suicide.
@@nubby03 That actually would've made so much more sense than what happened here,ngl
OMG THAT'S FUCKING FUNNY. I DIDN'T CATCH THAT AT FIRST
I appreciate Sam's interpretation of The Symbiote. He was never a Venom fan so it "Emphasizing someone's nature" isn't just in line with the retcons that The 90s Animated Series made to how The Symbiote corrupts the personality, but ALSO in line with how Symbiotes were corrupt but could be purified to improve their host later on before Donny Cates' run.
I always loved how Peter is such a goof that his idea of being cool/evil is being a mildly inconvenient jerk
this would be true if he didnt literally beat the guy up, which is the 'cool' action vs avoiding physical conflict
Instead of having a random butler tell Harry the truth, Peter could've explained everything. But I guess that just makes too much sense.
Well considering how every time Peter tried to explain Harry wouldn’t listen and/or tried stabbing him, the butler is still stupid so in I think the directors cut Harry just forgives Peter on his own
@@mercernova5347editor's cut*
Actually he did tell him, in the middle of their fight but Harry called him a liar. It took his butler to tell him the truth since he was the one who cleaned up Norman's wounds and confirmed his own glider killed him. I guess the only reason he didn't tell Harry was because he assumed Harry didn't know about Norman's villain character.
"He tried to kill me, then killed himself!" Doesn't ring a bell?
The movie originally had the butler be part of Harry’s head telling him that Peter was telling the truth and that Harry has been in denial about it
you can tell they had planned to split the cgi work budget evenly between harry-goblin and sandman, until they had to divide the goblin half with venom after avi arad cried and pissed and shitted his pants to get venom into the movie
#AviAradOut
This pretty much describes Avi Arad & Sony's obsession with Venom
all they had to do was save him for 4
that scene where venom is born and then jumpscares you?
move some events around and put that at the end, bam sequel hook
@@Vinthechadmostly Arad to be precise
It's NUTS to me that people are pissing and shitting their pants about wanting Avi Arad out over one bad decision from 17 years ago, as if he hasn't also produced some of the best superhero films.
It’s so funny that in the first Spider-Man movie those goblin grenades turned a whole balcony of people into skeletons but in this one it just slightly inconvenienced Harry. He survived the grenade in the first movie too I guess, maybe he’s just immune to disintegration
Something something goblin gas
Considering how Norman acts like him and Spider-man are unkillable gods Harry is probably extremely durable compared to the old guys
Maybe the goblin powers make them able to withstand more than average...
@@daveinacave fair point, except for the fact he survived the bombs in the first one lol
It was probably a different type of grenade
Fun fact: Eddie was originally supposed to be LITERALLY consumed by venom; found out after Peter pulled Eddie out of venom, and than venom tried to remerge with Peter until metal bars were yanked down by Peter and they disintegrate venom via too much sound.
Isn't that the plot to Web of Shadows?
@@leithaziz2716No, it's more like the Mega Venom multiplied to the point where if you choose the good ending, Venom heroically sacrifices himself to save NY because of Peter
Venom got aggressive so much that it ate Eddie's entire flesh and organs and only left nothing but his skeleton. His death end with a skull being pierced by one of the metal pipes.
@@leithaziz2716I think you mean Edge of Time
What?
I think Venom would have turned out way better if instead of Eddie, it was Jameson's son who got the symbiote. He definitely already hates Peter for stealing Mary Jane in the last movie, so that would be a better motivation than Eddue had in this movie.
To be fair Peter was just chilling in his apartment during the wedding MJ is just for the streets
Hell no. Eddie is the original Venom. What kind of idea is that
@@QuigleTheGnomenah he just rizzed her up without actually doing that
🧢 mj made that decision
@@donathan2933tell that to the new spiderman game
I love the way Sandman got closure
"Oh shit, didn't know you was gangsta like that, my fault OG" then he vanishes
"I hope he doesn't dramatically sacrifice himself to save the day!"
*...awkward silence*
he didnt....
He did @@ap-pl
26:26
This is one of those movies where you can say it's hilarious both ironically and unironically.
#AviAradOut
Any scene with JJ is pretty much gold.
Agreed
YES!😂
@@Zombiesnyder13lol 😂
I like that they also think retconning Uncle Ben’s death was stupid.
Yeah, it is pretty stupid. I personally would’ve been down for it if it was executed well.
It's not the worst thing out there, but it certainly feels tacked out and unnecessary.
not really a retcon but ok
@@NewsofPEyes it is
Not really a retcon, as we didn't see who shot Uncle Ben.
I’m so pressed that they skipped over Sandman’s transformation scene, the 1 genuinely great part of this movie
Money moment
The only way they could’ve improved it is if they had Venom chase Peter with a truck.
That scene in 90s TAS actually scared the shit out of me when I was a kid.
Avevane added to the humor for me after
Ohhh shhhhit, I actually get that reference
Say all you want about Venom, but he's dedicated.
You saying this literally made me think of Ace Vane 💀
Jack not even bothering to bury the lead on Harry's sacrifice was hilarious!
Bully Maguire is truly the character of all time, and the dance number is the scene of all time.
It's a shame that Spider-Man 4 was canceled, imagine how much more of a movie of all time it could've been
Bully Maguire is the biggest Spider Man menace
#AviAradOut
24:58 “Spider-Man believes in America and Jesus Christ he fights Atheists!” That got me dead 😂
Avi Arad: "Put Venom. It sells more toys."
Sam Raimi: "But I have everything planned out already. If I put Venom, it will be too crowded."
Avi Arad: "I don't care. Put Venom."
Sam Raimi: "But..."
Avi Arad: "Put Venom or I'm gonna put some dirt in your eyes."
Sam Raimi: "Okay, you want Venom? I'll give you Venom!!! Ashole."
#AviAradOut
The craziest part is, if Raimi never directed Spider-Man 3, it would've been SO much worse. He did his best with what was given to him.
@@ccelite3782
It could've been like when Bryan Singer was replaced by Brett Ratner in X-Men: The Last Stand
Which was also ruined by Arad
At least Sony learned their lesson where they make the venom film series which take place in its own universe that wasn't connected to previous spider man films
@@Mr.Feather130 and then tossed it away so they could use the Multiverse to exploit the MCU
14:07 remember. Mj cheated on Harry with Spider-Man, then the day of his funeral, got with Peter, who knows she’s for the streets, then got engaged with a new man who’s better in every way, tried to get Peter to kiss her, LEFT HER FIANCÉE AT THE ALTER, got with Peter, then got jealous and went back to her ex who she had originally cheated on. Saying that she’s for the streets is an insult to the streets
1. This movie is just plain hillarious, both intentionally and unintentionally.
2. Despite this movie's issues, I think we can all agree that the scene of Sandman literally pulling himself back together for the sake of his daughter was *beautiful*
3. The saddest part is that I have no doubt in my mind that Sam Raimi could have done Venom justice had he not been forced to stuff him into an alredy overstuffed movie.
Peter's dark side *Bully Maguire* going from an egomaniacal dork who thinks he's the hottest thing since sliced bread to a violent sociopath is honestly fitting, as it shows that it takes time for the symbiote to truly start corrupting Peter. In fact the scene at 13:20 was supposed to have a small jumpscare to show what Peter was going to turn into had he kept wearing the suit to really show why he was scared of it.
4. To be fair to this movie, I do like that it kept a consistent theme along with the rest of the trilogy.
The 1st movie was Peter's origin and him internalising the lesson Uncle Ben taught him
The 2nd movie was Peter struggling with the fact that he can't have it all and that him being Spiderman made his personal life *hell* , but that he keeps at it anyway because its just the right thing to do. Its not always easy and requires sacrifices, but its the life Peter chose and his conscience won't let him just walk away
Then in this one, Peter is unironically living his best life. He's finally with MJ, the city loves Spiderman and he feels like he's at the top of the world.
But Peter's own ego causes this carefully stacked deck of cards to fall down.
5. I really do wonder what that theoretical Spiderman 4 would have been tho. Especially with Vulture as the villain.
Totally agree, the Birth of Sandman is probably my favorite part of the movie, tied with the early Peter-Harry fight.
James Franco literally used to scare me as a child and I've never recovered 💀💀 his face just inspires fear
Now that I'm older, I've come to realize that they SEVERLY underutilized Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen in this movie. She was some good milk in this movie.
Nah fr
They are making this movie 10 times more funnier than it already originally was. 💀💀💀💀
MJ: “How dare you cheat on me!” Peter: “You literally tried to kiss me the day before you were going to get married.”
MJ: That was completely different.
@@gmgz Peter: You also kissed me when you were dating Harry.
@@happyflowerdemon8565 MJ: That was also completely different.
@@superemoboi2050also she didn’t even know he was spiderman
4:19 Why did Kor laugh so hard at that?! 💀💀
Unpopular opinion, but I really liked how symbiote looks in Spider Man 3 compared to the Venom films. As scrawny as he looked, I genuinely loved how vicious and terrifying they made Venom, and the way the symbiote moves around is haunting. Like instead of just some sentient black goo, it's a alien that creeps around with its tendrils sticking to your skin like an actual parasite. You can feel how unnatural and otherworldly the symbiote is.
Agreed, I wish that the actor had more time to bulk up for the role so he could use a bigger bodysuit
I respect your opinion on venom in spider man 3 but the venom from his spin off series is more faithful to how he appear in the comics and cartoons
@@Mr.Feather130sure but arguably those movies are just worse
@@mattdoesntknowwhattodowith5760 yeah but they have its moments
I agree!
Spider-Man 3 is the funnier than you think 💀
i didn’t even notice that lmao 😭
💀💀💀
#AviAradOut
Ikr, grammar seems to be non existent to them
It's the is the fun of funny
Mary jane being for the streets for two movies then peter being a complete asshole for a whole movie really bring everything full circle 😂
I never realized how toxic their relationship actually was.
I honestly love this film specifically for how memey it is even if it's bad
The butler waited until after Harry got half his face blown off to have that heart to heart with him.
Casting the guy who played Eric Forman as Venom was certainly a choice
I appreciate Sam Raimi's thinking. HIS Take on Eddie Brock was a sleaze compared to HIS Take on Peter: he's the Anti-Peter.
@@TECH097 Yeah, I get why Topher was cast, but the execution of Venom was lacking
#AviAradOut
One of the decisions ever
While I think the Venom movies are much worse films, casting Tom Hardy as Eddie wasn't a bad choice, as he better fits his posture and physique.
Harry Osborn's asshole phase is hilarious, rivaled only by Peter's symbiote asshole phase. It's all so fucking corny, so bad it's good.
14:16 MJ is literally the worst in these movies. In the first movie she tried to get with 3 people, then in the second film she kept giving I want you eyes to Peter while Sleeping with Jay Jona’s son, and now all because of Spider-man, she tries to cheat on Peter
I blame AVI ARAD for destroying Sam Raimi's passion
He forced him to include Venom just so he could sell more toys
This truly is "the FUNNIER than you think"
No joke
17:36 he actually did duck under the table, the guy behind him is looking right at him
6:51 that whole building wreaking scene is probably how some would react honestly. You see something spinning out of control but don't think of the fact that it'd hurt you in the next few seconds till later
In each movie, J Jonah Jameson has more pills on his desk than the previous. Brilliant.
The reason “Venom” sucked in this movie was because Sam Raimi was forced to put him in the movie.
Yeah. I personally didn’t want him in this movie either. And when he was in the movie, he was ass.
I found venom better in this movie than in the venom movie
23:49
1. He took a serum that gives him super powers that rival Spiderman
2. Peter survived a point-blank grenade too in the first one (and extra, MCU Peter also withstood a grenade to the chest)
27:37 bro is getting damaged by a metal pipe sfx file lol
Love the title, "Spider-Man 3 is the FUNNIER than you think"
Anyway, this movie was my favourite as a kid I can probably recite it word for word.
"This is more feminists than Barbie."
I believe it 💯
The convenient butler Goblin reveal? It's even funnier in the outtakes.
Harry’s face after the grenade blowing up looks like Cecil from Invincible💀
19:22 he cared about journalistic integrity since the first movie, even when the green goblin threatened his life, he wouldn't give the name of spider-man's photographer; peter parker
17:35 Even the dude who was behind him turned around like “da heck?” 💀💀
I remember watching these as a child thinking they were the best superhero movies ever. Now as an adult I want to stand by that statement based on just how absurdly bad and funny they are 😂😂😂
The first two movies are pretty good tho.
I will make you retract those words sir
bad? I'm throwing hands. Maybe this one but not the other two!
And thus the Birth of the greatest meme in Spider Man history
#AviAradOut
This is unironicaly my favourite movie of the og trilogy
The Sam Rami trilogy has become a colossal meme factory
Even after ruining everything
They gave AVI ARAD a big thank you in the credits of NO WAY HOME
Oof
13:49- "Spider-Man doesn't kill people. People-Man kill people." That's better!
I love how they're laughing at the crane randomly collapsing when the same thing happened like a week ago 💀
Just realized Mary Jane has the EXACT SAME look as Makima 25:52
Sandman is honestly one of my favorite spiderman villians (not my first, but a close second). The whole scene where he puts himself back together for his daughter was beautiful
This is the most fun ive seen these guys have watching anything , this film is a chaotic masterpiece
Me looking in my McDonald's bag realizing I got the wrong order
12:05 :
I don't care how bad this movie can be at times, I still love it. 😂
12:46 In one Spider-Man comic, Spider-Man found out that one part of Sandman has a soul and was able to capture the soul sand and tortures Sandman.
"Is the funnier than you think"
Nice spell, Dudes.
17:35 he Definitely did go under the table😂 the dudes head sitting behind him turns like “what is this clown doing”😭
17:36 even the black guy looked back like wtf lol
this was the only tobey spiderman I saw in theater as a kid. i thought emo tobey was the coolest thing ever
Can't wait for the Andrew Garfield reactions
I’m waiting for to them see uncle ben death in that movie
17:34 What makes this scene even funnier is that even the dude behind Harry in the background turns around and looks down which practically confirms that he literally just dropped down under the table and the dude is like "What the fuck??"😭
27:21 Iterally what I thought during the movie
3:43
Wicked witch of the milk
Ok
The sight of Goblin Harry hitting the webline and bonking his head on the dumpster still makes me laugh to this day.
The abrupt entrance of the symbiote meteor is probably due to them not even putting Venom in the movie at first. Sandman was supposed to be the main villain for the entire movie, but the studio wanted to add Venom, which Raimi also knew almost nothing about, and you can definitely see how that went
There were a lot of ideas in the early scripts of the movie that didn’t make it into the final cut but was used in the Spider-Man 3 novelisation.
One of these things was this unnamed doctor character who was a part of Sandman’s story. Flint Marko’s daughter, Penny, was actually had an unknown terminal illness and doesn’t have much time left. Marko was paying the doctor to research the illness to find a cure and resorted to becoming a robber to keep funding the expensive research.
In the scene where he teams up with Venom in the novelisation (which was part of a deleted scene), Marko was playing with his daughter by forming himself into a sand castle. Eddie shows up after Penny leaves and manipulates Marko by preying on his emotions and desperation to save his daughter, convincing him Spider-Man will keep getting in his way and he has to kill him. In the novelisation of the final battle, Sandman was about to kill Spider-Man but his wife, daughter and the doctor show up to stop him and the doctor tells Marko that it’s impossible to save Penny and she’s going to die no matter what, causing Marko to give up and confess that Uncle Ben’s death was an accident like in the original film.
I was actually hoping that they’d actually use Penny dying in Spider-Man No Way Home, maybe have Norman tell Sandman that his goblin serum could save Penny to convince him to side with the villains and maybe have the three Peters create a cure for Penny’s illness along with the other cures for the villains.
Another thing from the novelisation was that Raimi’s version of the Venom Symbiote is actually a parasite that drains and kills its host. In the novel’s version of the final battle, after Venom kills Harry, the Symbiote separates itself from Eddie revealing that Eddie was dead the whole time during the fight and all that was left was his skeleton (as well as revealing that the Symbiote was imitating Eddie’s voice during the fight) and tries to rebond itself to Peter. The Symbiote’s motivation was to make Peter it’s host again because, due to Peter being superhuman, he was able to stay bonded to the Symbiote and not die from the Symbiote parasitically draining him. For comparison, Peter was bonded to the Symbiote for weeks was still healthy and living, while Eddie was bonded to the Symbiote for a few hours was reduced to a skeleton.
I made a meme out of 3:58 that freeze frame five years, used Andy Serkis' gollum as the background and pasted that on there. 😂
9:12 Honestly if I had millions of fans I would also say that.
Remember that Sony forced Sam Rami to include Venom... which is why he feels so shoehorned in
Love the sandman scene
"There's a change in the silicon mass"
"Probably a bird"
"Sir its 250 pounds"
Love how Jack is so hyped for this movie! 😂
They make the most random parts of the movie absolutely hilarious 🤣
27:53 you can see his skeleton when the bomb explodes
3:37
Props to the guy that made the Nostalgia Critic reference in chat
The funniest part of the film is def when Eddy Brock is in church praying to Jesus to kill Peter Parker 💀💀
17:35 also notice how the guy in the back looks where Harry was 😂
it always bugged me how she was angry at Peter for kissing Gwen when she did the same thing to her fiancé in the last movie 😑
The Raimi Spidey universe has high school students who look 30 years old, and college adults who act like kids.
If you want a good Venom story arc, then you should start watching the Spider-Man television series from 1994. That show absolutely rocks!
“Get back here *SHOCKER!!!*”
13:27 dude i’ve been saying this for years 💀
12:57 was edited like a candy commercial from the early 2000s
23:44 funnily enough, Sandman was suppose to be the villain for this movie and there would've been a fourth one for Venom, but it was changed last minute to this
4:55 honestly the hospital has probably known Peter was Spidey since the second movie. Good hero. Bad liar.
Ok to the Editor if you see this the edit of 26:15 with James going back and forth hitting the web combined with that commentary had me crying from laughing.
15:29 he looks like hes about to say "i am a surgeon"
James with his Franco out😂😂😂😂 that got me!!!
Oh man, now I want to see them react to movies like The Room or Twilight to just riff like crazy on them. 😂
17:35 you can literally see the black guy look over, his face is like "the fuck is this guy doing under the table???" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
12:05 me when the mcdonalds employee messes up my order.
The nicolodion slime 😂