I think Plant also realizes singing about something is different than putting yourself into something you clearly aren't. The best thing is that while he rejects Zeppelin reunions, he doesn't reject its legacy. The rejection of the reunion is more about rejecting what people's expectation of that would be. I think while he's explored new ground in his music while keeping a foot in his roots, he's done the one thing so many rock don't or couldn't and that is age gracefully.
He didn’t turn down a couple of very lucrative “reunion tours” with Jimmy Page. They just cut John Paul Jones out of the mix so they wouldn’t owe him a one-third cut
@@gregbors8364 I don't know what happened with those two albums/tours. I took it as they didn't want it be billed as a full Zeppelin reunion. The 2007 show was as real a reunion as it there will be as it was just them and Jason, no other musicians performing with them.
@@123jkjk123 absolutely correct. And Zeppelin I believe was the first band ( only band that I know of) to make reference to aspects of Middle Earth in lyrics, which Robert wrote. That’s all he meant
I’d say the Battle of Evermore is probably their most fantastical song pulling many things directly from Tolkien. The whole song is something completely rooted in fantasy.
Robert's use of English lore rooted in Tolkien's take on Beowulf and other old English and British history, tales and mythos is parallel to Ian Anderson's. There is something so cool about how Zep and Tull captured the feel of old english lore. By all means my fellow commentors, feel free to list others from the annals of Rock.
I love some of the lines in this script: Example: Plant has always "walked the tightrope between legend and irony". And: "You don't write a lyric like "To be a rock and not to roll" without a good sense of where the theatrical and tongue-in-cheek overlap". Hell, those two quotes fit Plant to a T." Kind of defines his whole persona and his sense of his craft.
I will say, when i watch “The Dark Crystal” i immediately think of Zeppelin. When i really first heard “Immigrant Song”, “Battle Of Evermore”, “Song Remains The Same”, “The Rain Song”, “No Quarter” and “Kashmir” My mind went straight to that movie… I often wonder why Plant didn’t do the soundtrack. Would’ve been a perfect fit.
WOW...OUTSTANDING. I had not heard about that offer, but if true, Plant's rejection and reasons for it are absolutely square with his stated philosophy of his craft and with his life: To never be captured and have to live in one's past; to always be moving forward, to always be challenging oneself to keep learning and trying new things, and to never, ever, take oneself too seriously. That has kept him grounded for decades and true to himself, which is really all that is important to him; not trying to fulfill the expectations of fans of a band long since gone. He is proud of his work in Zeppelin. Proud of what they all accomplished. But to him, Zeppelin died with his friend Bonzo. And he moved on. He had to. That's just who he is. Restlessness, both literal and creative, is in his DNA.
Robert's notion that he would not want to take himself too seriously also explains his venture into the project through which I first remember hearing his voice when I was fpur years old, the Honeydrippers. On some level, that's stylistically as far as it gets from the music from the first four Led Zeppelin albums.
Robert Plant is the Rock God forever. He doesn't need to expose himself in movies to keep the spark alive. It will always burn. I bow down to the members alive not to reform. Without Bonham there is no band. Not one member is replaceable.
I never thought of the immigrant song as anything other than a rock band experimenting with new ideas.. the one recurring theme I notice time and time again is that people tend to always make a big deal out of suff that's really not that big a deal😉
Robert Plant would agree with you completely. As he has often said: I'm just a singer of songs. He does not take all the hoopla seriously. Although, he could be forgiven for having done so for a few years in his early 20's. Most young men would.
He was already rich and probably was more interested in spending his time continuing to tour instead of dabbling in acting like Bowie and Jagger did. And I’m sure he would have been fine but would have been roasted if it did turn out he wasn’t good in his role. It wouldn’t have been the first time that happened to a famous musician
Could have been vanity. Percy no longer looks like he was back in the day. Plus, he doesn't need the money. But feel free to philosophise and speculate about it all day long...
Don't need to. If he were that vain, he would have had plastic surgery and have a fake tan like Rod Stewart. And he would have retired before now to keep the "mythos" alive. Or he would have met the expectations of fans and raked in the money. Turning his back on all that and going his own unique way and obviously showing his age, is not a sign of vanity, but of integrity. Something which is very short supply these days, and which you might not recognize. PS; And oh yeah: with the make-up wizards they had on GOT, they could have made him look magnificent. A vain man would have gone for that.
he is obviously NOT saying that! Sheesh! Talk about falling for a short quote totally taken out of context. He was a huge Tolkien fan and everyone knew it. Also an avid reader of mythology and history, and it was not a secret. He wasn't claiming to have invented Middle Earth. 🙄🙄 He was saying that they were the first huge rock band to reference Tolkien and mythology in their songs. And btw: Yes on No Quarter, Ramble On and Battle of Evermore. And no, on Stariway. What in the lyrics of that song would lead you to think of Tolkien? Just because it was fantastical, does not mean it's a Tolkien reference.
Nope. That's just not who he is.....as you would know if you had read anything about him, or heard his interviews or podcasts. Which I'm assuming you haven't done because you're just not that interested. Which is absolutely fine. But take it from those of us who ARE interested and have followed his career and have invested time in knowing something about him: He honestly couldn't give a shit about it.
It’s worth far more to Robert knocking back Game of Thrones than being in it. Smart man. Gotta respect his integrity.
I think Plant also realizes singing about something is different than putting yourself into something you clearly aren't. The best thing is that while he rejects Zeppelin reunions, he doesn't reject its legacy. The rejection of the reunion is more about rejecting what people's expectation of that would be. I think while he's explored new ground in his music while keeping a foot in his roots, he's done the one thing so many rock don't or couldn't and that is age gracefully.
He didn’t turn down a couple of very lucrative “reunion tours” with Jimmy Page. They just cut John Paul Jones out of the mix so they wouldn’t owe him a one-third cut
@@gregbors8364 I don't know what happened with those two albums/tours. I took it as they didn't want it be billed as a full Zeppelin reunion. The 2007 show was as real a reunion as it there will be as it was just them and Jason, no other musicians performing with them.
@ JPJ knows. He wasn’t invited
@@gregbors8364 Right. Which makes me say it wasn't intended to be a Zeppelin reunion.
@@Scott__C “Sorry, John, it’s just the important guys” 😁
Actually, Tolkien started that shit.
Actually, the “Beowulf” poet started that shit. Track down Tolkien’s famous essay on the poem.
@@danielschaeffer1294 and that shit existed before Beowulf.
his statement was taken out of context. Obviously. He certainly wasn't claiming that Zeppelin started Tolkien and Norse mythology...LOL...
@@helenespaulding7562 Right, but it was Tolkien who popularized fantasy/myth in the 1960s hippie generation that Led Zep played to.
@@123jkjk123 absolutely correct. And Zeppelin I believe was the first band ( only band that I know of) to make reference to aspects of Middle Earth in lyrics, which Robert wrote. That’s all he meant
I’d say the Battle of Evermore is probably their most fantastical song pulling many things directly from Tolkien. The whole song is something completely rooted in fantasy.
I haven’t watched GOT & don’t plan to, however if Robert Plant was in it, I likely would have.
He's a grounded man.
Robert's use of English lore rooted in Tolkien's take on Beowulf and other old English and British history, tales and mythos is parallel to Ian Anderson's. There is something so cool about how Zep and Tull captured the feel of old english lore. By all means my fellow commentors, feel free to list others from the annals of Rock.
If he’d done it, he would’ve instantly turned into eternal parody. Smart choice.
I love some of the lines in this script: Example: Plant has always "walked the tightrope between legend and irony". And: "You don't write a lyric like "To be a rock and not to roll" without a good sense of where the theatrical and tongue-in-cheek overlap". Hell, those two quotes fit Plant to a T." Kind of defines his whole persona and his sense of his craft.
I will say, when i watch “The Dark Crystal” i immediately think of Zeppelin. When i really first heard “Immigrant Song”, “Battle Of Evermore”, “Song Remains The Same”, “The Rain Song”, “No Quarter” and “Kashmir” My mind went straight to that movie…
I often wonder why Plant didn’t do the soundtrack. Would’ve been a perfect fit.
Two of the guys in Mastodon played extras in the army of the dead.
WOW...OUTSTANDING. I had not heard about that offer, but if true, Plant's rejection and reasons for it are absolutely square with his stated philosophy of his craft and with his life: To never be captured and have to live in one's past; to always be moving forward, to always be challenging oneself to keep learning and trying new things, and to never, ever, take oneself too seriously. That has kept him grounded for decades and true to himself, which is really all that is important to him; not trying to fulfill the expectations of fans of a band long since gone. He is proud of his work in Zeppelin. Proud of what they all accomplished. But to him, Zeppelin died with his friend Bonzo. And he moved on. He had to. That's just who he is. Restlessness, both literal and creative, is in his DNA.
I've always pictured Tom Bombadil as looking the way that Robert Plant looks now.
He would have been great in Braveheart! As would’ve Billy Connolly!
Robert's notion that he would not want to take himself too seriously also explains his venture into the project through which I first remember hearing his voice when I was fpur years old, the Honeydrippers. On some level, that's stylistically as far as it gets from the music from the first four Led Zeppelin albums.
Robert Plant is the Rock God forever. He doesn't need to expose himself in movies to keep the spark alive. It will always burn. I bow down to the members alive not to reform. Without Bonham there is no band. Not one member is replaceable.
“Ramble On” is Lord Of The Rings.
Well done
I never thought of the immigrant song as anything other than a rock band experimenting with new ideas.. the one recurring theme I notice time and time again is that people tend to always make a big deal out of suff that's really not that big a deal😉
Robert Plant would agree with you completely. As he has often said: I'm just a singer of songs. He does not take all the hoopla seriously. Although, he could be forgiven for having done so for a few years in his early 20's. Most young men would.
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He was already rich and probably was more interested in spending his time continuing to tour instead of dabbling in acting like Bowie and Jagger did. And I’m sure he would have been fine but would have been roasted if it did turn out he wasn’t good in his role. It wouldn’t have been the first time that happened to a famous musician
I totally get it but, I would love to see Robert Jimmy and John come together for just one reunion tour as Led Zeppelin.
Immigrant song was in one the saga of Thor too...
Wilco was perfect for G O T.
Could have been vanity. Percy no longer looks like he was back in the day. Plus, he doesn't need the money. But feel free to philosophise and speculate about it all day long...
Don't need to. If he were that vain, he would have had plastic surgery and have a fake tan like Rod Stewart. And he would have retired before now to keep the "mythos" alive. Or he would have met the expectations of fans and raked in the money. Turning his back on all that and going his own unique way and obviously showing his age, is not a sign of vanity, but of integrity. Something which is very short supply these days, and which you might not recognize.
PS; And oh yeah: with the make-up wizards they had on GOT, they could have made him look magnificent. A vain man would have gone for that.
He doesn’t need the money. He’s still raking in about $8 million a year from Led Zeppelin royalties alone.
Jimmy could have done a whole lot worse than getting Robert Plant in his band. How could they have ever failed.
songs like ‘No Quarter’ and ‘Stairway’ are directly referential from Lord of the Rings tho.. Robert did not do it first
he is obviously NOT saying that! Sheesh! Talk about falling for a short quote totally taken out of context. He was a huge Tolkien fan and everyone knew it. Also an avid reader of mythology and history, and it was not a secret. He wasn't claiming to have invented Middle Earth. 🙄🙄 He was saying that they were the first huge rock band to reference Tolkien and mythology in their songs. And btw: Yes on No Quarter, Ramble On and Battle of Evermore. And no, on Stariway. What in the lyrics of that song would lead you to think of Tolkien? Just because it was fantastical, does not mean it's a Tolkien reference.
It could have just been a cameo appearance. I think he's the one taking it all so seriously.
yes but by refusing he remains Robert Plant, not "Robert Plant the cameo guy in GOT"
Nope. That's just not who he is.....as you would know if you had read anything about him, or heard his interviews or podcasts. Which I'm assuming you haven't done because you're just not that interested. Which is absolutely fine. But take it from those of us who ARE interested and have followed his career and have invested time in knowing something about him: He honestly couldn't give a shit about it.
Game of Thrones takes MUCH more from Tolkien than Zep.
What is Game of Thrones ?
People read the bible book and think it's true