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  • Simon Jordan and finance expert Stefan Borson reveal why they expect Chelsea to face FPP charges next season.
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  • @parmaman8551
    @parmaman8551 Місяць тому +364

    Former Man city advisor calling out Chelsea but not City imagine my surprise

    • @TheMrClutchy
      @TheMrClutchy Місяць тому +58

      It’s annoying when people know facts that you don’t like isn’t it

    • @InvaderZim742
      @InvaderZim742 Місяць тому +18

      @@TheMrClutchy except he doesn't know the facts. As usual he is completely guessing what will happen in the 23/24 period.

    • @QuentinMajor
      @QuentinMajor Місяць тому +24

      ​@@InvaderZim742The facts are that Chavski have openly admitted to breaching the rules, and City haven't. I know that makes you Chavshit fans uncomfortable, but I'm afraid that's the reality - you *will* be punished in future seasons.

    • @macca9320
      @macca9320 Місяць тому +9

      ​@InvaderZim742 he knows more than me, You and 99% of other fans. You lot read headlines and think you know better.

    • @lawrence5841
      @lawrence5841 Місяць тому +7

      The charges aganist City and what chelsea might face are completely different

  • @garygoyles9305
    @garygoyles9305 Місяць тому +161

    Spoke so quickly for the whole time, gets too city and starts floundering 😂

    • @dylanb.117
      @dylanb.117 Місяць тому +9

      Strange definition of floundering

    • @Daniel-cx6zw
      @Daniel-cx6zw Місяць тому +14

      @@dylanb.117it’s spot on. He’s just a shill for citeh

    • @yt.personal.identification
      @yt.personal.identification Місяць тому +2

      ​@@dylanb.117 complicit

    • @chelseagodfather
      @chelseagodfather Місяць тому +1

      Amazing really. I just posted same 😂😂😂

    • @alexburrows2835
      @alexburrows2835 Місяць тому +1

      He didn't flounder funny how Simon was quiet when he chatted about Chelsea soon as city comes in he interrupts like an idiot

  • @Littledunc1
    @Littledunc1 Місяць тому +151

    Based on what Stefan said about City, Chelsea should just keep breaking FFP and taking on more charges so it takes even longer for them to be punished.

    • @17scottymufc
      @17scottymufc Місяць тому

      That's what will happen if they get off with it, every owner in the league will use their other businesses to filter money through the clubs, will become a shambles of a league

    • @thedean4431
      @thedean4431 Місяць тому +23

      chelsea have admitted to the breach under abramovic city deny all allegations there is the difference

    • @ifldiscovery8500
      @ifldiscovery8500 Місяць тому +20

      FFP is not what breaches are for City its the false accounting which EPL has to prove.

    • @alazarashine7834
      @alazarashine7834 Місяць тому +4

      Where the hell did u hear that🤣

    • @nishchaychauhan8814
      @nishchaychauhan8814 Місяць тому +3

      You don't understand English mate.

  • @DarrenMac-yk2gd
    @DarrenMac-yk2gd Місяць тому +96

    We need to see Manchester City 115 charges sorted before anyone else is charged

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 Місяць тому +15

      That's dumb. Thry aren't facing the same things. Forests, chelsea and evertons books show they've not met the profit and sustainability rules. Chips meet the rules. So we should ignore every other breech for the next 2 years then punish them after the fact? The clubs that get relegated and would have stayed up woukdnt be fair on them.

    • @joestockton7016
      @joestockton7016 Місяць тому

      How is it fair on anyone in the EPL if City are not held accountable? If they’re not guilty of anything; what’s taking so long? If they are guilty; what the f* is taking so long? It’s a complete farce at this point.

    • @drdassler
      @drdassler Місяць тому +7

      Don't be so keen to show how clueless you are.

    • @drep9028
      @drep9028 Місяць тому

      Worry about your own club. See...so many thought it's easy to just spend money and win because that's what City did...no it ain't. And now it didn't work out for your club...you on a witch hunt? Sad

    • @andrewbrogan2499
      @andrewbrogan2499 Місяць тому +3

      No let's focus on cheating Chelsea

  • @QuicknStraight
    @QuicknStraight Місяць тому +56

    Jeez, this guy Borson is doing his best to dissemble about City's allegations. He used to work for City, so how can you believe anything he says about City? If the contracts are not shams, simple for City to just produce the contracts, rights?

    • @user-rp7iu7ds3f
      @user-rp7iu7ds3f Місяць тому +4

      When the 115ers were mentioned, I think his wry smile said it all!

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 Місяць тому +11

      What contracts? They have access to all of Citys Financials. Whats he been wrong about? It's funny we should take lfc and utd supporter journalists and what they say about the case even though they aren't experts right?

    • @afckajjansi
      @afckajjansi Місяць тому

      facts!! it's been a year. The reason Simon disagrees with taking too long is bc he's a former owner and knows they're just buying time to pay off everyone, nothing to do with producing evidence. What exactly is missing? Call for the hearing. They can bring their evidence and the prosecutors have theirs too.

    • @aaaaab5909
      @aaaaab5909 Місяць тому +1

      or as the legal process requires, simple for the pl to prove that the contracts are shams, right?

    • @Pugh.Pugh.BarneyMcGrew
      @Pugh.Pugh.BarneyMcGrew Місяць тому +2

      The longer it drags out the higher the fine, because clubs that they beat by cheating can honestly say that if they had won they could have bought better players, won more the next year and so on. You can't unravel 5 years of that for every club in the league. You just have to do a Rangers and send them out of the league. There is no amount of money they could pay to compensate everyone. And quite frankly anyone involved in it should not be allowed to work in football again.

  • @Orhams
    @Orhams Місяць тому +89

    Borson quick to analyze how Chelsea will fail FFP but so defensive of his former side with 115 charges.

  • @johnpaulreed4862
    @johnpaulreed4862 Місяць тому +51

    U could tell Stefan was on man City payroll the way his tone changed and the way he was speaking the charges against city are a hell of alot more serious than just ffp breaches.

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 Місяць тому +3

      City from 3 owners ago.

    • @thedean4431
      @thedean4431 Місяць тому +1

      lol he is ceo of a floated company on aim thicko

    • @johnpaulreed4862
      @johnpaulreed4862 Місяць тому +3

      @@thedean4431 okay. Hostile much

    • @QuentinMajor
      @QuentinMajor Місяць тому +1

      We already know that. What's your point? Chelsea have admitted to wrongdoing.

    • @drep9028
      @drep9028 Місяць тому +1

      Fact...City guilty or not didn't affect the performance of other clubs. Other clubs should take their responsibility into their own hands. At the end of the day...breach or not..City utilize their spending waaaaay better

  • @Daniel-cx6zw
    @Daniel-cx6zw Місяць тому +130

    Borson having this weekly fear mongering about Chelsea meanwhile his former club face 115 charges is hilarious icl

    • @thedean4431
      @thedean4431 Місяць тому +13

      he says it how it is chelsea went cap in hand and said they have found a breach simple and there spending is disastrous now

    • @MCFCTheMadHatter
      @MCFCTheMadHatter Місяць тому +10

      @@thedean4431 Great point and he can't argue that point. Hence, he has not replied to you

    • @williamrobinson4253
      @williamrobinson4253 Місяць тому +4

      Absolutely agree. They haven't got anything on Chelsea and never had.

    • @Daniel-cx6zw
      @Daniel-cx6zw Місяць тому

      His entire spiel was about hypotheticals. even he said last year he didn't see them getting a profit of 142m. He's just chatting shite as usual. Should spend his time discussing the 115 CHARGES against his club @@thedean4431

    • @callummarson9479
      @callummarson9479 Місяць тому +4

      @@MCFCTheMadHatterwhat Borson very quickly glossed over was that they got it wrong that Chelsea breached 22/23 but now they’re apparently completely correct that they’re going to breach 23/24 season. So if they got the first bit wrong how can anyone trust what they say next is true haha

  • @lovejoy3347
    @lovejoy3347 Місяць тому +22

    City getting away with this whilst others get penalised is like people going to prison for not paying their licence fee whilst the mass murderer who killed 125 people is still out on bail as they have to amass all the evidence against him. How can you run an orderly society with ethics and clear favouritism like that?!!.

    • @kc8923
      @kc8923 Місяць тому

      Look at the current Govt and the way theyve run the country for the last 15 years, fits in perfectly!!!

  • @yt.personal.identification
    @yt.personal.identification Місяць тому +7

    In 2014 Man City were found guilty.
    After that, they continued to amass alleged breaches of rules without remorse or respect.
    Getting caught once is one thing.
    Continuing after being found guilty is a qhole different thing.
    Yes - the 2014 was UEFA not PL, but it goes to intent.

  • @mikeymums
    @mikeymums Місяць тому +22

    This dudes energy totally flipped once they started talking about city. For Chelsea it was good luck, for city he was defensive. Hilarious

  • @duncan2858
    @duncan2858 Місяць тому +33

    Teams should get another automatic 2 points deducted if they appeal and fail.

    • @TristanSpow
      @TristanSpow Місяць тому +8

      Luckily you are nowhere near our legal system, stay to brick laying bud

    • @duncan2858
      @duncan2858 Місяць тому +4

      @@TristanSpow and you to toilet cleaning.

    • @TristanSpow
      @TristanSpow Місяць тому +1

      @@duncan2858 nah I’m studying law currently

    • @hustler666100
      @hustler666100 Місяць тому +1

      thats ridiculous to say when we found out they made a mistake in Evertons case.

    • @nothanks3236
      @nothanks3236 Місяць тому +4

      @@TristanSpow Considering the low opinion in which lawyers are held worldwide, I'm not sure that's a valid comeback, mate.

  • @TheFlyingmind1
    @TheFlyingmind1 Місяць тому +51

    Borson will face the music when the city scam is announced.

    • @QuentinMajor
      @QuentinMajor Місяць тому +8

      So, never, then. Enjoy relegation, btw.

    • @afckajjansi
      @afckajjansi Місяць тому +1

      He needs to be sued for accomplice

    • @Adamjames123
      @Adamjames123 Місяць тому +1

      Why what's he done

    • @juz882010
      @juz882010 Місяць тому

      you seen the lawyer gang city got? they up to like 50 now.

  • @adamross1992
    @adamross1992 Місяць тому +71

    Everyone please bookmark this video for next year - this dude has been fear mongering about Chelsea for months now and every Chelsea journalist says no worries about any breaches - at this point Stefan should never appear on TalkSport again if he's wrong

    • @JMEcooper
      @JMEcooper Місяць тому +8

      Yeah and defends city like he still works for them

    • @jamesbrowne7601
      @jamesbrowne7601 Місяць тому

      @@JMEcooperHe used to work for them & is a City fan

    • @drep9028
      @drep9028 Місяць тому +6

      Fear mongering was when all these clubs thought that City were going to sign Rooney, Cr7, John Terry, Ashley Cole, Van Persie, Fabregas+ a dash of Ronaldhinio and Canavaro and storm the league. They thus created these shady rules and now look very silly. That is my theory anyway

    • @JMEcooper
      @JMEcooper Місяць тому +1

      @@drep9028 the rules do tend to favour the more historic clubs slightly but they are there for the greater good. Trouble is in football it’s difficult to know who to trust now and that is sad

    • @Lioness_UTV
      @Lioness_UTV Місяць тому +2

      ​@@JMEcooper I have a slightly different POV, I think historically football has always had under the table deals, has always cooked the books. The FA for instance in decades past used to take a high percentage of the gate receipts from all the grounds not caring that this left football clubs barely able to thread water.
      Interestingly this was one of the main reasons why the FA campaigned to get women banned from playing football and for 50 yrs they got their wish. That's just one story of many of the FA's backdoor dealings and if anyone thinks that's the past and not now only have to look at the FIFA bribe scandals, UEFA I have no doubt is similar. And now City are doing their best to string this out and for some reason the FA doesn't want anything to be public, they want privacy aka secrecy, why I wonder 🤔

  • @alistairsmith5389
    @alistairsmith5389 Місяць тому +6

    Meanwhile Lance Armstrong FC laughing at us all 😂😂😂

  • @christophersalmon863
    @christophersalmon863 Місяць тому +10

    A city u to worry about. Chelsea hasn't even being charged. Pure speculations an as u say assumptions.

  • @BaldricksTurnip1
    @BaldricksTurnip1 Місяць тому +9

    Forest fan here,Man city and Chelsea will get away with it,the stench of corruption is gut wrenching and nauseating 🤮

    • @Ricardo-ur5os
      @Ricardo-ur5os Місяць тому +1

      They’ll probably get charged but it will be a laughable charge in comparison to the breaches

    • @spark556
      @spark556 Місяць тому +1

      Cry more 1x League Title FC 😂

  • @polyglot8
    @polyglot8 Місяць тому +23

    Simon perks up at the edge of his seat when this bloke talks financial matters, more than he ever does when they talk about the footballing that occurs on the pitch.

  • @17scottymufc
    @17scottymufc Місяць тому +10

    Why go on there and speak properly about Chelsea, and when city comes up get all defensive and narky. He knows they're dodgy, just say it

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 Місяць тому +4

      What's City got to do with the Chelsea situation? There's no point talking about City because nothing has changed from the last time they spoke about them. And nothing will change for at least another year.

    • @nivzb18
      @nivzb18 Місяць тому +3

      City’s situation is an allegation, which requires investigation and Chelsea’s situation is much more factual.

    • @InvaderZim742
      @InvaderZim742 Місяць тому

      @@russellward4624 so what's the points in constantly talking about Chelsea? Nothing has changed since the last time he did and he's just guessing about what's in their 23/24 accounts anyway. Interesting how he never mentions the massive reduction in their wage bill though.

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 Місяць тому

      @InvaderZim742 because it doesn't change anything. They still need to sell players. But I agree there's no point talking about Chelsea either until the season finishes and we see how successful they'll be at selling players for profit.

    • @InvaderZim742
      @InvaderZim742 Місяць тому

      @@russellward4624 the whole point being that only Chelsea know how much they need to raise by selling players. They're the only ones with access to their bottom line.

  • @IanDavis-fs8dd
    @IanDavis-fs8dd Місяць тому +22

    Why can't Simon let people finish their sentences?

    • @Jedstop
      @Jedstop Місяць тому +3

      He can’t stand the thought of someone smarter than him so he has to try and prove they are not .

    • @trudieyeates2955
      @trudieyeates2955 Місяць тому +2

      How long have you got ?

    • @boxthorncutter2804
      @boxthorncutter2804 Місяць тому +3

      He's a narcissist.

  • @bartley7953
    @bartley7953 Місяць тому +28

    I never hear in the case of Chelsea the sanctions and embargos they were under before and during when the club was sold ? , surely this will have a huge affect on their revenue and profit and loss on the accounts in terms of FFP .

    • @user-xt2ge1qy7c
      @user-xt2ge1qy7c Місяць тому

      No guilty

    • @ifldiscovery8500
      @ifldiscovery8500 Місяць тому

      Chelsea is also being investigated for 2003 2012 2019 periods for money laundering.

    • @InvaderZim742
      @InvaderZim742 Місяць тому +2

      it was already accounted for in the financial period when it happened. That was 21/22. Don't think it has any bearing on the 23/24 period.

    • @nathanhenry7692
      @nathanhenry7692 Місяць тому +3

      @@InvaderZim742 It did in terms of not being allowed to renew player contracts and having no licence to sell players.

    • @InvaderZim742
      @InvaderZim742 Місяць тому +1

      @@nathanhenry7692 that was 2 years ago though. How is it still affecting the club this season?

  • @jdj8798
    @jdj8798 Місяць тому +4

    I could be mistaken but I thought I remember a report saying the deal to buy Chelsea included a clause that 1bn would be invested into the playing squad

  • @Zippy-ey9xu
    @Zippy-ey9xu Місяць тому +13

    An ex City guy defending his old employer - surely not!

    • @afckajjansi
      @afckajjansi Місяць тому +3

      the way he blatantly finds excuses for city but trashes chelsea and the rest just tells you everything. Time? time to pay off all the prosecutors i guess. been a year. call for the hearing.

  • @derrickwinter9737
    @derrickwinter9737 Місяць тому +4

    Stop blaming Manchester City for your own clubs failings you silly little people 😂😂😂💯obsessed

  • @JeffWhelpley
    @JeffWhelpley Місяць тому +5

    I mean...yes, Simon and Stefan are likely right about all of this BUT I think even they would agree that IF Chelsea do manage to raise profit before June 30th, then they will be fine.
    IMO they can definitely raise 100m profit by that deadline if they need to (i.e. 35m Maatsen, 28m Hall, 40m+ Gallagher all already queued up). It would be MUCH more difficult if they need to raise more like 200m profit. If their gap truly is that large, then I do agree that they are going to fail.
    So, the real issue with Chelsea isn't that they need to raise money before June 30th but moreso how much money they have to raise. 100m, no problem. 200m, they are in trouble.

    • @afckajjansi
      @afckajjansi Місяць тому

      facts! cfc will just sell gallagher, chalobah and broja. City are buying time to pay off prosecutors. NOthing to do with "defend themselves".

    • @TheMrLjupce
      @TheMrLjupce Місяць тому

      If they put the money from the mount transfer for the previous season can’t they do the same for players signed after 30th of june also?

  • @goonern4644
    @goonern4644 Місяць тому +3

    City can kick the charges down the road forever without being held accountable, but he's already predicting Chelsea's punishment a year in advance. Nice to see, he's impartial.

  • @richardjames3356
    @richardjames3356 Місяць тому +1

    8:29 That smirk from Simon..

  • @spark556
    @spark556 Місяць тому +1

    They will be severely punished. They have until June 30th to gain 200mil but the problem is.. transfer window opens July 1st. They are done.

  • @lesjay6267
    @lesjay6267 Місяць тому +5

    Pretty sure this guy was on TalkSport a few months ago speaking about Chelsea failing FFP for 2022-23. 😂

    • @zareefosman7767
      @zareefosman7767 Місяць тому +3

      He’s a bum without a job in finance anymore. Hence why he’s on talk sport 🤣

    • @nathanj8849
      @nathanj8849 Місяць тому

      He spoke about Mason Mount transfer kitty being put in 2022-23 to adhere to FFP, but it means they start this current season in deficit. Listen again, bc he didn’t contradict your statement, he clarified how Chelsea got around it!

  • @steve13191
    @steve13191 Місяць тому +4

    Sums up pep guardiola. For me this guy should never be considered as one of the greatest coach of all time. His resume : doping as a player, bribing referee with barcelona even though he had messi xavi iniesta busquets even ronaldinho and henry. 115 charges. Everywhere he goes he cheats. Barcelona won ucl before and after him, bayern won league before and after him, city won before him. Yet media painted him as the good guy and jose was the bad gu few years ago😂

    • @Ken-yy9us
      @Ken-yy9us Місяць тому

      As an Arsenal supporter, I would love to see the facts that you are claiming.
      Why, if all you say is true, haven't FIFA, UEFA, LA LIGA and the PL acted? It's all a load of BS even, as an Arsenal fan, I would love it to be true and proven.

    • @ainthubertsvlog610
      @ainthubertsvlog610 Місяць тому

      "For you "😅

  • @lonewar1
    @lonewar1 Місяць тому +2

    When are the Refs and VAR staff going to be investigated... Qatar treated them to 5 star trips and paid them a fortune... then by coincidence all decisions seem to help Man City this season...

  • @williamlima8489
    @williamlima8489 Місяць тому +5

    Shame chelsea sold mount and kai havertz to Al-hilal.

    • @MJ-ip7oj
      @MJ-ip7oj Місяць тому

      Exactly, this guy is an embarrassingly blatant shill.

  • @thebritishbushman8389
    @thebritishbushman8389 Місяць тому +1

    Simon interrupting to summarise what Stefan is saying, by talking as much as Stefan!! 😂. Great ‘summary’ Simon! 😂😂

  • @jamielane6829
    @jamielane6829 Місяць тому

    Theres also a spondership deal this year that didn't exsist pre the mount sale, thats worth more than his sale. Seem to have just forgotten about it :D

  • @general_foodie9211
    @general_foodie9211 Місяць тому

    Camera quality 👌🏼 👏 🎉

  • @lukelocks9083
    @lukelocks9083 Місяць тому +1

    When the screen came on, I thought WTH is Douglas Murray doing on the show!

  • @JohnRowland-ec5dr
    @JohnRowland-ec5dr Місяць тому +1

    city need too look into simon Jordan dealings

  • @andywilliams8540
    @andywilliams8540 Місяць тому +6

    think i can speak for most fans when i say i hope they throw the book at both chelsea and city

    • @garethjenkins6273
      @garethjenkins6273 Місяць тому

      Not going to happen. They are scared of the big 6 teams - ok Big 5 + Sp*rs.
      Quick to hand out punishments to Everton and Forest. City's case is scheduled to be heard in May - 2074.

  • @7th.trumpet
    @7th.trumpet Місяць тому +2

    Talksport, missed a perfect opportunity here for laughs ! They should've had Danny Murphy on and zoomed in on his face as Borson says "So Danny, whats your opinion on what I've just said ?". 😂😂

  • @BigFno.8
    @BigFno.8 Місяць тому +1

    Is there anything CFC can do to ensure whatever point deduction happens this season? It's a lost season anyways and even a 10 point deduction will not result in relegation

    • @jackmurray7022
      @jackmurray7022 Місяць тому

      nope, the finance breach isnt official yet, like chelsea can still get out of it if they raise 100m profit in the summer, so it will be for next yr the point deduction

    • @BigFno.8
      @BigFno.8 Місяць тому

      @@jackmurray7022 thanks

  • @mcdamiananoruo6199
    @mcdamiananoruo6199 Місяць тому +8

    Stop waffling when it comes to Man-City

  • @user-wd1eg2bn7t
    @user-wd1eg2bn7t Місяць тому

    This financial guy is awesome. Need to keep him on. So insightful.

  • @DJ-yu9gk
    @DJ-yu9gk Місяць тому +2

    Oh so you cant keep spending billions and finishing 10th? 😂

  • @seanhorgan5380
    @seanhorgan5380 Місяць тому +2

    Well i presume everybody csn this coming from a mile off. It's only a matter of time before Chelsea are charged. If they dont get Europe next season its going to be a very difficult years ahead for Chelsea

  • @cubemubarik9196
    @cubemubarik9196 Місяць тому +5

    😂😂this guy looks like mr Bean

    • @timmurray6890
      @timmurray6890 Місяць тому +1

      If he was their finance guy does that make him Mr bean-counter

  • @alantheloneranger1963
    @alantheloneranger1963 Місяць тому +1

    Why don't they just simplify it. Because there is so much money pumped into the Premier League, no club should be allowed to make a loss. So for up to every £5m loss each year, the club will be deducted 1 point. That means if a club loses £30m it's 6 points deduction, £50m it's 10 points deduction, £70m it's 14 points deduction, and so on. This will force clubs to reduce the outrageous wages that they pay players and reduce the ridiculous amount spend on transfers

  • @john-bu6su
    @john-bu6su Місяць тому

    is there a detailed list some where i can read the 115 charges?

  • @terwasevictorsesugh3902
    @terwasevictorsesugh3902 Місяць тому +1

    Why the obsession for CFC? Boehly goes to Saudi Arabia, it's an issue. Some English club sold to Saudi Arabia more than CFC no problem for them.

    • @cgray8267
      @cgray8267 Місяць тому +1

      Ya but the owners didn’t fly out there and meet minister for sports

  • @jonmorris1999
    @jonmorris1999 Місяць тому +1

    Cucurella + Sterling £168m done deal to al ittifaq in the summer what's the problem

    • @lilbaz8073
      @lilbaz8073 Місяць тому

      That would be about £40m profit.
      Still need to find a bit more.
      Players from the academy when sold are pure profit, so their whole transfer fee will count. That's why they are talking about selling chalobah and gallagher.

  • @jensonank2409
    @jensonank2409 Місяць тому +1

    Does he ever take off those man city specs..?

  • @garyflynn4780
    @garyflynn4780 Місяць тому

    That smile on his face when city brought up 👊

  • @creasicle
    @creasicle Місяць тому +1

    Stefan on Chelsea 'I don't have the figures but Chelsea will make a +£100M loss'
    Stefan on Man City 'I haven't seen the evidence but the allegations are unprovable and the Premier League have been collosally stupid taking on a case they can't win'
    🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @parmvirvirk8959
    @parmvirvirk8959 Місяць тому +1

    So the EPL wanted to keep it quiet as did City which sums up their title of '115 charges Bought and Paid for FC'. Sheisters the lot of them.

  • @owensterrell
    @owensterrell Місяць тому

    Love how Simon tries to imply City is keeping this secret. Stefan corrects him. And he just keeps rolling along his narrative.

  • @rjw4762
    @rjw4762 Місяць тому +17

    I see Villa have made losses of £120m for last season !!!!

    • @abebe5017
      @abebe5017 Місяць тому +10

      They complied fully with PSR. After allowable adjustments, they came in around £13.5m under the £105m cap.
      So what's your point?

    • @andrewholdsworth4421
      @andrewholdsworth4421 Місяць тому +3

      Villa are in order . Corruption is ripe. But villa are not part of it

    • @andrewbrogan2499
      @andrewbrogan2499 Місяць тому +9

      Forget villa let's get back to Chelsea

    • @cgray8267
      @cgray8267 Місяць тому +1

      @@andrewbrogan2499ya 😂

    • @thomasbrammer6228
      @thomasbrammer6228 Місяць тому +2

      villa will be fine they sold 2 home grown players archer and ramsay to sheff utd and burnley

  • @hemantgadar8314
    @hemantgadar8314 Місяць тому +1

    Mark Goldbridge said it perfectly
    Have an anesty
    U think that is only chelsea or city cooking their books?

    • @Petersworld77
      @Petersworld77 Місяць тому

      Not everyone is a crook or cheat. Goldbridge wants the slate wiped clean for Utd because they have spent so much money on dross in recent years it’s preventing them from buying new players now.

  • @leebeckett5152
    @leebeckett5152 Місяць тому

    Doesn’t have to take a long time it has to be a reasonable length of time

  • @kenroyforte6175
    @kenroyforte6175 Місяць тому

    Look until the books are inspected, this is mere speculation

  • @backupdancer3720
    @backupdancer3720 Місяць тому +8

    This is what modern football has become... Only 20 years ago it was about managers and players...Then RA buys Chelsea and it's about owners, agents, managers and players...
    The legacy owners (most of who have sold their clubs or saddled them with debt) cried about the spending of RA, and later Abu Dhabi...
    Now football is also about owners, lawyers, consultants, accounts, revenue and profit... I work in finance, and football is now like going into the office.

    • @superflyjimmysnucka9068
      @superflyjimmysnucka9068 Місяць тому +1

      You're looking through rose tinted glasses!! The team who spends the most money has usually won the league! You can look it up!

    • @backupdancer3720
      @backupdancer3720 Місяць тому

      @superflyjimmysnucka9068 Is this a reply to my original comment? If yes, it makes no sense/has no relevance to my original comment.

    • @garyh1572
      @garyh1572 Місяць тому +1

      It went like that as soon as football sold itself to Sky in 1992.

  • @advitiyasharma9420
    @advitiyasharma9420 Місяць тому +3

    Yeah we heard that last year dude and nothing happened

    • @thomasgrant8074
      @thomasgrant8074 Місяць тому +5

      Chelsea didn't break FFP rules last year.

    • @lesjay6267
      @lesjay6267 Місяць тому

      ​@@thomasgrant8074 Yes, exactly!!

  • @londonsfinest6070
    @londonsfinest6070 Місяць тому

    When you need to reduce the loss for the financial year, just move transfers around before or after the 30th of June, whatever suits you better Todd ;)

  • @jackhoskins722
    @jackhoskins722 Місяць тому +12

    115

    • @peterkirk123
      @peterkirk123 Місяць тому +1

      Points deduction for Chelsea next season

  • @eltubster14
    @eltubster14 Місяць тому +4

    He might be biased when in it comes to Citeh, but this guy is a genuine expert when it comes to football finance. Great listen.

    • @MrWiggz69
      @MrWiggz69 Місяць тому +1

      Heavily biased for City. The tone change from talking about Chelsea to talking about City is night and day. He does know his stuff though and so does Simon who kept him honest.

    • @dylanb.117
      @dylanb.117 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@MrWiggz69 what about City has he said that is clearly biased?

  • @BritishRosie-es3zr
    @BritishRosie-es3zr Місяць тому +5

    Nobody is talking about football - just money, unfairness, greed, corruption and incompetence. What a great sport.

  • @kc8923
    @kc8923 Місяць тому

    Even during Abramovich's time with his money from dubious sources Chelsea had some great players and teams. They now seem to be involved in suspect financial arrangements with no clear identity or success on the pitch.

  • @MCFCTheMadHatter
    @MCFCTheMadHatter Місяць тому +8

    Interesting that Simon trots out City were guilty in the eyes of UEFA and yet completely dismisses CAS. UEFA broke its own rules to find City guilty (time-barring_ and even the CAS panel said that the conclusions that UEFA reached are not supported by the evidence they have presented (paragraphs 252-257 of the CAS report). Yet for Simon, and apparently everyone else, that doesn't matter. Why? Because they simply don't want to accept it given their emotional attachment to the situation.
    Also, everyone constantly parrots the same ill-informed talking points about the fair value of City's commercial deals and how it relates to UEFA. In the UEFA case, they even found that the deals were of fair value and yet no one says that either.

    • @115ffpandthephantomtreble
      @115ffpandthephantomtreble Місяць тому +2

      Adjust your manpax princess 2025 going to be ruff for you 😘

    • @MCFCTheMadHatter
      @MCFCTheMadHatter Місяць тому

      @@115ffpandthephantomtreble It’s gonna be smooth sailing sweetheart and I’m not worried about it all. Looking fwd to all the tears from you jealousy monsters ;)

    • @bareknuckles2u
      @bareknuckles2u Місяць тому

      Emotion gets in the wy of rational thinking. Just about everyone on this thread is proof of this!

    • @lilbaz8073
      @lilbaz8073 Місяць тому +1

      You're not an idiot. You know you cheated.

    • @MCFCTheMadHatter
      @MCFCTheMadHatter Місяць тому

      @@lilbaz8073 I’m not so sure. Remember, the PL allegations are breaking FFP, they’re effectively saying City has committed major accounting fraud for 10yrs. That’s not simply a FFP breach, what they’re alleging, if true, will mean that all member of the board were aware of and knowingly went along with a massive conspiracy to commit accounting fraud; it mean most of the executives at City were on board as well, including Berrada (as he was head of commercial sales and there’s been all kinds of accusations from fans about that which is ironic considering MU just hired him as new CEO), to outside accounting auditors such as KPMG and Deloitte, to gov officials in the UAE - all for a decade.
      The bar to prove such accusations is extremely high, so much so, that the PL would need to several “smoking guns” to prove it. Have you seen all the evidence that supports the PLs allegations I’ve mentioned? I haven’t. No one has. Yet so many ppl are so sure City are guilty yet most don’t even have the faintest understanding of the charges as they think it’s just an FFP breach like NF & Everton but many more and it’s not that at all.
      Lastly, a good chunk of the PLs case falls on commercial revenue being overstated, which would mean the financial statements are all wrong. What’s fascinating here is that UEFA had already cleared City of that and have said the commercial deals were not inflated. I find this aspect interesting bc if UEFA had no issue with commercial revenue and said it was all fair value, why and how has the PL reached a different conclusion? Maybe it’s commercial deals right when the club was first taken over? Not sure. The other thing to consider is just how incompetent the PL executive group is. They’ve been slapped down on appeal for Everton, their decided against using the VAR the WC uses, they’ve refused to put a framework in place that maps out the punishment for FFP breaches, even under their watchful eye and signing off on Everton’s transfers, they still somehow breached FFP, they’ve done nothing to address the PGMOL debacle. I could go on, but these are the same people who are alleging a conspiracy to commit accounting fraud for over a decade across multiple international firms and government officials and I’m to believe them wholeheartedly when they can’t even address some of the issues I’ve mentioned above? Let alone they had to re-write their FFP charges report when they initially released them bc even those were reported incorrectly. It’s almost like believing a crime occurred, and if you have any questions, ask the blind man as he saw it all. So no, I’m not sure if anything under the circumstances as they stand presently

  • @sie4431
    @sie4431 Місяць тому

    If Chelsea's turnover was £435M, £481M, £xxxM for 21-23 and their losses were reportedly -£153.4M, -£121.3M and -£90.1M respectively. However the panel point out that they can't have had combined losses of more than £105M otherwise they would have been charged in December 2023. It's been pointed out that not losses count for P&SR, we don't know what their losses are under PS&R.
    Chelsea earnt an estimated £93.6M from the CL alone, if all else is equal that'd give them a turnover of £495.4M and a loss of -£183.6M. They will get a little more because they'll finish higher and had a better run in the domestic cups but even with that and flogging some players they're surely going to be restricted in what they can spend in the very least and the same would be true in 2024/25

  • @kevinlemon6537
    @kevinlemon6537 Місяць тому +1

    Why is there no asterix against Man City in the league table ???

  • @MarkChandler-fb1fm
    @MarkChandler-fb1fm Місяць тому +1

    Not sure who is getting paid off from PL and City to keep this bs going on and on. How much time do they need?

  • @Jedstop
    @Jedstop Місяць тому

    How will any team try and compete with the big boys if they can’t get someone in willing to gamble and spend big. If you can only spend a % of what you make no team can come up and compete.

  • @nicholasroy2960
    @nicholasroy2960 Місяць тому +2

    Chalobah 25M
    Maatsen 30M
    Broja 20M +4M
    79M pure profit
    International break means they have nothing to talk about and bring back this clown

    • @parmaman8551
      @parmaman8551 Місяць тому +2

      Fellow Chelsea fan here, the issue is doing all of this before the end of June.

    • @sivuyilemthala3004
      @sivuyilemthala3004 Місяць тому

      Hall 28m from newcastle

    • @Petersworld77
      @Petersworld77 Місяць тому

      Sell to who? It’s not in the interest of other EPL clubs to buy from Chelsea knowing it will help them avoid a points deduction. Let them sink I’d say.

    • @parmaman8551
      @parmaman8551 Місяць тому

      Chelsea aren't getting relegated for an FFP breach. The prem has set a precedent with Everton and Forest it will be a small points deduction.@@Petersworld77

  • @jeffduckworth94
    @jeffduckworth94 Місяць тому +1

    Why have Everton and forest been docked points now and not city and chelsea

    • @lilbaz8073
      @lilbaz8073 Місяць тому

      Maybe watch the video. Just an idea. It might inform you.

  • @OfficialFA
    @OfficialFA Місяць тому +1

    WE WILL FIND OUT IN DUE COURSE, THICK SKULLS DON'T GET IT..?😂

  • @justinmagagani8835
    @justinmagagani8835 Місяць тому +3

    These guys are clowns. They did not take into account for the fact that not all operating expenses in the Accounting losses eg youth team and womens team expenses are are not taken into account for FFP..

    • @lilbaz8073
      @lilbaz8073 Місяць тому

      They have taken it into account.

  • @robdatta8767
    @robdatta8767 Місяць тому

    If Everton, Forest, Leicester, and Chelsea face points deductions for essentially a handful of breaches if even that (and in the case of Chelsea, self-reported by the current owners), then Citeh should have all of their titles stripped. Let's not forget that the 115 was arrived at after whittling down the original list. Chelsea, Arsenal, United, and Pool should be given those titles instead.

  • @carlossus4973
    @carlossus4973 Місяць тому +1

    Ask Leeds what you'll get for your players when all other clubs know you need to sell!

  • @Gas_615
    @Gas_615 Місяць тому

    Hope so 🙏🙏🙏

  • @robcollett6312
    @robcollett6312 Місяць тому +1

    Well sounds like just go on spending money so there's more charges and by the time they get round to building up a case and going through every single wrong doing the world won't exist anymore 😂

  • @user-qs8xc4ni6f
    @user-qs8xc4ni6f Місяць тому +8

    Man talked about chelsea with confidence then when it comes to chelsea starts waffling nonesense. These people are a disgrace

  • @danielthomas9259
    @danielthomas9259 Місяць тому

    Are the premier league rules regarding ffp changing next year to be based on revenue instead?

  • @John-ok8ts
    @John-ok8ts Місяць тому

    Even if Chelsea get a 10 point deduction it will make no difference. They aren't winning the premier league or getting top 4 and are finishing 10 points above relegation. A bigger problem for Chelsea is just like Everton this is the gift that will keep giving.

  • @klivegee
    @klivegee Місяць тому +3

    What a load of BS from Stefan Borson re Man City

  • @BigDom61
    @BigDom61 Місяць тому +1

    I agree with Simon for once it’s a disgrace it’s taking so long

  • @fensolo9694
    @fensolo9694 Місяць тому

    His defending of the city case somehow makes me feel like hes involved somewhat! 🤔

  • @fullmetalalkami6466
    @fullmetalalkami6466 Місяць тому

    4 point deduction to Chelsea won't make much ofvb a difference from 11th to 12th.

  • @FaithRomero-ms5kq
    @FaithRomero-ms5kq Місяць тому

    Strange how the smaller clubs are getting point deductions this season ,which will problem get them relegated,
    The Big boys are getting there cases heard next season ?

  • @magicaces13
    @magicaces13 Місяць тому

    How can he say this is nothing to compare regarding chelsea and FFP. For that matter everton and forest.
    The basic claim is they actually got less income in effectively meaning they made more losses than was shown.
    And so got away with spending more on players.
    Where is the points deductions for City and Chelsea? There won't be any.

    • @lilbaz8073
      @lilbaz8073 Місяць тому

      Think you need to rewatch the vid.
      Chelsea aren't in breach.
      Citys case is totally different. It's about fraud. Not just by them, but deloitte (the worlds biggest accountancy firm) their sponsors and the abu dhabi royal family (who litterally have assassins on their payroll).
      Much more serious, harder to prove and potentially could lead to an investigators death.
      So they are being a bit more careful with it.

  • @TheFergo911
    @TheFergo911 Місяць тому

    I always said that football cannot run with as such excess spending. There are too many players in every team such that paying over 10 million in annual salary is not a possibility when close to half your players are already making close to 10 and above. It cannot be sustainable unless accounting principles are altered in order to make it seem like an organisation is better than it is.

  • @spooksspooks3365
    @spooksspooks3365 Місяць тому

    Liverpool was hacking into city youth setup . Peter the Great 😂😂

  • @Dodgers-sw2uk
    @Dodgers-sw2uk Місяць тому

    What a nightmare these owners have been. Absolute nightmare

  • @seanbonella
    @seanbonella Місяць тому

    About bloody time

  • @razorman1977
    @razorman1977 Місяць тому

    His approach Chelsea and other clubs is well they will mostly like face the punishments. Come to man city its all about give them time. I feel he is very protective of man city..... could it be he used to work for them.... hmmm interesting. 😂

  • @thebritishbushman8389
    @thebritishbushman8389 Місяць тому +1

    Anyone else feel that Stefan is ‘protecting’ his own previous involvement when at Man Cheaty? 😂😂😂

    • @l33lob
      @l33lob Місяць тому

      Yes 100% has a very protective opinion of a situation that UEFA have investigated already and would have done them for if it was not for the time bar

    • @TP-pq9xx
      @TP-pq9xx Місяць тому

      He left in 2008

  • @ianrichardmorrissey6082
    @ianrichardmorrissey6082 Місяць тому

    Their is NOTHING FAIR about about FFP its totally BS and the Lawyers are loving it. Massive overhaul required by a neutral committee.

  • @paulnsno7198
    @paulnsno7198 Місяць тому

    I would love to play poker with this Stefan guy!

  • @neshnesh4633
    @neshnesh4633 Місяць тому +1

    Chelsea must sell Caicedo to Liverpool. That's it

  • @superflyjimmysnucka9068
    @superflyjimmysnucka9068 Місяць тому +1

    Boson's bottom is twitching 😂😂

  • @p_sg3449
    @p_sg3449 Місяць тому

    Chelsea and Man C think the worst case scenario is being relegated to the Championship. It's not a disaster for them because they know they'll be back in the PL the next season. Guardiola has said he would still stay if City got relegated. They've had a lot of success by breaking the rules and it's why they need to be demoted to League 1 as punishment.

  • @riiseboy123
    @riiseboy123 Місяць тому

    Stefan Borson…. The change in the man when talking about City 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @rageowens
    @rageowens Місяць тому +1

    ok now it makes more sense with this stefan guy because he worked for city lmao i get it now