The politics & ego thing in management irritates me beyond words... I guess the older I get the less it matters or impresses me. We are all human & we all have jobs that work together to make the business successful. Humility is always the correct path. Love your videos, Ms Rosie! Take care & be safe.
My neighbour down my street is native French. She is a seamstress and is an expert in tambour embroidery. She has a talent and a gift to create what is wanted and needed in haute couture. She did a test for impromptu design and both Chanel and Louis Vuitton wanted her. She chose Chanel and worked closely with the design team headed by Karl Lagerfeld. This is what dreams are made of!!! She and I have become close and she decided to teach me the basics of tambour. She then became full French mistress. It’s no joke, the harsh criticism comes out and for very good reason. They want you to strive for excellence at every level. And most importantly be aware of your actions and the impact it has on the final outcome. The harsh criticism also was unleashed on my lack lustre French. Hahaha I won’t let it discourage me. But, yes it hurt and I avoided my friend for a week. PS. I loved hearing your experiences. I think your career is inspiring and really influential. Most especially on me ❤️❤️
This is such a fantastic sharing for everyone to learn from you...especially the young...like you said, it's wonderful to have a mentor or ANYONE to share their experiences and knowledge to give you a heads up! That helps in many life situations besides work!
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This video is full of 'Devil wears Prada' feels 😂 Especially when you said you stood out because you didn't care about the industry!
Thank you for your generosity in talking about the “mistakes” that you made (we all would have made them too) ;) and for filling us in about the French protocols! So interesting Rosie x
Kia Ora, you are such a star for sharing your ups and downs! That's why I love Aotearoa and kiwis. Love ya heaps! You deserve all the success in the world...
You met the high level of French snobisme. At the same time congrats and bon courage. C'est un milieu qui peut être enchanteur pour une professionnelle débutante mais c'est aussi le milieu des coups bas, des envieux et des jaloux de métiers. Milieu très très superficiel dans sa communication, très hypocrite dans ses compliments. Vous allez découvrir que vous devrez toujours quelque chose à quelqu'un, que votre place vous est prêtée et que vous ne valez que ce que valent vos protecteurs. C'est en fait le même univers que la politique ou le show-business mais dans l'industrie.
Trèa bien dit. Je suis tout à fait d'accord et je ne travaille pas dans milieu mais pour un leader mondial dans une autre Industrie. C'est applicable au corporate environment je pense.
I'm moving to France end of the month to do my master's! I also have an internship component, so I'm doing my research now. This video was helpful, although I'm in a different industry, it's been great to hear your perspective! Thanks 🤗
I love many aspects of French culture but the hierarchical, old school traditions of business culture simply do not resonate. As a Canadian entrepreneur heavily influenced by American business culture, and a part-owner of a staffing firm, the idea that you are not allowed to reach out to anyone you please unless you have 'permission' is just silly. The person you reached out to may not have time or inclination to reach back. But it's not 'wrong' to ask!
This is by far your best video yet. Extremely captivating and interesting while still staying respectful to your former employer. You're such an amazing person, it doesn't surprise me at all that you landed that sort of internship. I can totally relate to the feeling of being the odd one out in fancy, corporate settings at that age. As a 20-25 year old you feel very grownup until you're thrown into the real world and realise you're just a wee baby in many ways. It's such an important learning experience though and was clearly very character building for you since you're so very professional yet personal and humble now. Putting peoples' e-mail adress in hierarchal order has never even crossed my mind but is something I'll remember (though I'm in and from Sweden, where culture's very different from France). It's a bit silly, and you shouldn't have been scolded for it, but I do love the sense of detail of the French.
I feel like they should have told you beforehand what they expected regarding hierarchy in emails, etc and given you prior training rather than scolding you after making the mistake. How were you to know if they didn't inform you?
I don't think it's a French thing and is more of a Louis Vuitton/prestegious company thing (and a government thing that I have also experienced in the US). She had a very particular experience in France that can't necessairly be extrapolated to the rest of the country.
@@pscar1 , It IS a French thing. Her story made me re-live parts of my own career. When she talked about some things she had done, I found myself saying out loud: Ah, yes! So very familiar! (At times) So true! There's nothing like the high expectations of the French workplace, most especially in luxury. Nothing.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I have a childhood friend who worked for a while for LVMH and it was also very dificut for her, even though she's French. I think the fashion industry has a very specific work culture. Anyway, "bravo!", not everyone could have achieved what you have!
Wow! Just WOW! Thank you for sharing your experiences! I'm still trying to learn French as part of exploring my French heritage. I am dyslexic and had enough trouble learning to read and write in English, my mother-tongue. So perseverance is my only hope. I chanced across your channel with the video about pronouncing French brand names. But I will definitely be staying as one of your subscribers! Thank you, Elizabeth
Bonjour, travailler pour ce type d'enseignes est très difficile. La rigueur et le stress sont très présents, mais tu as acquis le principal pour travailler dans n'importe quelle société. Je suis sure que cette expérience t'ouvrira de nombreuses portes. Bonne continuation.
Fantastic video Rosie! Have you ever considered writing a book? Specifically about how you navigated those early years, with an emphasis on logistics and tips like the ones you gave here, but more detailed and extensive. I think it would be great (if you're into writing, that is!).
Great video! However, I'm pretty sure that a lot of these "cultural" aspects are really specific to the luxury industry. As you said, everyone is there through their network or family, so there are probably a lot of untold rules in this sector. I'm part of a CAC40 company as well but it's really chill, t-shirt and jeans everyday, no problem with hierarchy in the emails for example haha (btw our HR are pretty bad at scoping their emails.. A lot of unnecessary emails are sent to the whole company.. ^^)
Monsieur travaille dans une entreprise du CAC40 et alors ? Peut être ne connaissez vous pas les ”petites mains ” de C grandes maisons 😢! Heureusement qu'elles sont là pour fabriquer car les patrons ou cadres de ces entreprises n’auraient jamais le même résultat sans ces personnes que vous semblez ” mépriser ”,😢 L’appartement ou maison que vous occupez ! Ce n’est pas vous ? 😢 Du respect et retenue C mieux 😮
@@francisleveque2939 vous avez dû mal comprendre mon message car il n'y a aucun mépris dans ce que j'ai dit 🤔 Je disais au contraire que dans d'autres grandes boîtes, il n'y avait pas du tout cette ambiance toxique dont elle parle.
As an Indian who started as an intern in a big French bank I can totally relate to your experiences. I had a hard time as well because I lacked the knowledge of social codes. It was a huuuuge learning curve! (But the French lux company sounds like a horrible place to work at - I'd go crazy if I had to think about the order of email IDs 😑)
Could you tell us how you landed such an amazing internship, tips and any difficulties you faced applying for an opportunity to work at LVMH. I love your channel and the content you create, they’re so engaging and relevant to anyone interested in the subjects you discuss! Xo
These days the company has really high standards and expectations. They prefer multilingual candidates (Especially in French and English but, bear in mind there is American English, and the British form of English. Verbage/expressions and spelling are different, and you need to be well versed in both aspects). You need to really respect French culture, even if you have differing opinions. Some subjects are taboo. Respect for chain of command is important, and like she said, many interns/employees come from prominent families. It's kind of, who you know well, and how well they know you will represent their brands, honestly because you do wear it, and can wear it like a brand representative. Also, where you attended university and a master's degree in related fields in the luxury business industry are key. It's so highly competitive, some people will move on to other areas of business. If you pursue it, you have to be pretty thick skinned. It's not glamorous until you start reaching the levels of hierarchy that are.
I relate to a lot of this, though I worked in a medium sized French company not a giant. My work was critiqued to the point of frustration when I felt I did exactly what my manager asked for. Also, the hierarchy thing. My husband, who is French, often tells me about the drama with writing emails. He's at an upper management position, but he still has to go through his boss to talk to his bosses boss, and the emails he sends must have his manager in copy. It's more formal than the companies I've worked for in the US !
I did a similar thing for my masters studies in the US, except that I worked for a different, large cosmetic company. I'll just say that it was a learning experience for sure. My home office was very relaxed and friendly, but once I started working at the US headquarters, I learned the true meaning of French hierarchy and what people would do to climb the ladder. I work for a different European company now, but to show how much I learned, just last week I informed a new-ish employee about the order of recipients in an email she planned on sending.
My word! That tale of what it was like in the belly of a high fashion company makes me glad I am an engineer! :lol:. We are presently seriously looking into moving to France and that obviously means there is a need to find work (retirement is at least a decade away yet). So some insights like these into how a company can be rigidly hierarchical are a most useful heads-up. Thank you.
Hi @Not Even French i really enjoyed this video. Thank you for sharing your work experience. I assure you that you earned a new subscriber just with this video. Thank you again for sharing your experiences. I am hoping i study and work for some time in France and was doing some research and found your page and i'm glad i did.
Great video. Kiwi here. Can relate so much to the hierarchal stuff after having spent some time in a communications agency here. Ended up being too much for me and I left. Go you for sticking it out! :)
I admire you for being able to work in this kind of environment. I don't believe in constructive criticism and criticizing someone after they did a mistake that they had no idea would be a mistake in the first place is plain rude. I believe that criticism kills one's self esteem and drive to do better and better we're humans not robots to be pushed to the extreme to do better and better without any encouragement or praise
that reinforces what I said it absolutely destroys your self esteem. for those of you who could handle it I admire you a lot because I can not I feel that when somebody pushes you to be better even thogh you're at the top they 're just doing it to bully not to help you improve who could ever improve by being put down? but then again, everyone's different and if you grew up in this emvironment you find it normal
@@lavinder11 if thery want to learn from their mistakes and correct them they will without anyone pointing it out. As responsible adults we don't need to be told what to do and when we're wrong. We're supposed to know that.
All of your videos are good. This one to me was especially good.and relevant. France interests me. I have been to Paris twice and am planning a trip to Marseilles, France at Christmas. I believe there are no accidents. The spell check came up for 'Marseilles'. I have seen two spellings regular, with and without the end 's'. I have no clue which is correct. And the French Business insights were, I would say valuable.
It's MARSEILLE 😉 If you're talking about the inhabitants though, they're MARSEILLAIS; same for a male inhabitant. A female one is called a MARSEILLAISE. Yes, like our national anthem 😉 Hope it helps 😊 Enjoy Marseille, I'm a Parisian who never went there (foreigners do actually know France much better than I do 😂!)
Great video and useful tips about working in France 🇫🇷 Did you end up meeting the lady you emailed? Also what was your strategy later on networking that you developed 👍🏻
I really enjoy your channel. It’s refreshing from an English point of view. Have given any thought to going back to France 🇫🇷 and living full time? Pros and Cons of considering such a move. Things to be aware of being a single female (I.e. crime, which arrondissement is best. Best places to go to immerse yourself in French to try to become fluent). Best vacation spots, best city outside of Paris to live.
I'm an American. Even in the USA if you are a low level employee or an intern it would be looked down on if you had contacted a manager and asked for a meeting to learn how they got to where they are. It would appear that you are trying to replace them when you are just a newbie.
Hi :) I've been following your videos for quite some time now. I'm always surprised hearing your experience in France (social and work wise) how French people have been rude to you. Every time I hear you say "my boyfriend said 'you should never do that in France'", "this lady looked at me that way", I'm actually super shocked. I'm sorry you had to learn the French culture the hard way. I've never seen the French culture and society as judgmental. I mean, in LVMH, it doesn't surprise me at all, but outside of this work environment... Anyway, what I want to say is that it makes me really sad how you see the French culture so stiff and rude :( it's really not what I want to portray as a French person.
Léonie Sokolowski In general, French culture appears rude to foreigners. I’m not sure why, which is too bad because France is a beautiful country. But I also had a similar internship experience in France and decided to move to the US.
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Hi Rosie! Just love your accent. I'm a big fan of Kiwi alternative rock. Love from Toulouse x
Super video, Rosie!! Thanks for sharing all your insights. Do you mind asking which school you went to for your masters? I'm currently research my options. Cheers!
I'm a retired tax expert and worked with high net worth individuals....Michael Schumacher was a client - though not pointing the finger at him! The more time I spent in this environment the more contempt I had for the greed and arrogance of the super wealthy.
Always interesting to Watch your channel, and I Don't speak English since three years (since I'm back in France) so it's good for me to ear you. And I love NZ! (I was there...in 2009 2010 2011...A PARADISE! each Morning I ask to me Why I 'm back in France lol ^^) see you
Félicitations : contrairement à certains commentaire de Français sur d'autres chaînes YT, vous n'avez fait aucune faute 👏🏻👏🏻, j'ai cru que vous étiez français(e)😊 il y a 1 seconde
Here's my ridiculous hierarchy experience in a French company. I worked in retail for a well known French brand. I had a question about options an employee had if they wished to quit. I wrote an email to HR, never got a response, however i received a call from my regional manager. She yelled at me like at a child for surpassing hierarchy. She said i couldn't contact HR (!) directly! And that email has never been answered by HR. I still cannot believe the ridiculousness of this situation.
I think you landed on the most "snobbish" part of LVMH because you basically cumulated HR + Paris + contacts with the highest hierarchy. My personal experience working at MH in Champagne is enterely different as I was in R&D and in Reims which is a smaller city. People really had the same comitment to perfection and luxury but from what I hear the working environment was drastically different. I could dress however I wanted, people were really natural and open minded and even if I was mainly working with oenologists I never really had any issues with egos or "political" things. Anyway my point is it could be more linked to Paris and your field of work than LVMH. In fact I think many people in France who work at Big companies in Paris could relate to your story :)
@@NotEvenFrench yeeaah HAHAHAH OMG, I love this story so muuuuuch. One time I mixed up "glisser" with "pisser" and I told my teacher "je suis en retard parce que j'ai pissé sur une crote de chien en venant à l'école". I still remember her scared look
@@NotEvenFrench PMSL!!! In Italy I have done a double take sometimes at the names. One guy introduced himself as Signor Pompini (Mr Blowjobs 😨) and I replied 'A-ha! I see you have developed a British sense of humour!'' Turns out his name actually WAS Mr Pompini...
It reminded me of the series where Lily Collins is one of the main cast. Anyways, I got my internship at Consumerchoice and they offer a great WFH internship program.
Hi Rosie very interesting. Talk a little slower so we can visualize what your saying. Your a very lucky girl his wonderful you are living your dream you are intelligent to have had this opportunity. Your mom a saint. God Bless
Yikes... as someone who has worked in Europe and the U.S. some of these experiences you had as an intern sound like a complete waste of company time. The email hierarchy... come on... that's just asinine. If you have time to look at that then there are bigger issues at hand.
I thought you might be hard to like . I was utterly wrong. I thought a artist from N.Z and Fr. was the equivalent to jumbo shrimp. Your awesome sauce from l.a ca
Ohhh nonnnn.....les sous-titres Rosy....😢 je suis telment nulle en anglais...je n'arrive pas à suivre quand tu ne les mets pas...même si je m'améliore un peu grâce à ta chaîne, que j'adore suivre ! 💙
Could you provide the link where you found the list of top French companies to intern at? Can't make out what you said catcahunt (time stamped 5:09)? Also, which visa did you need?Thx
This is the list of the biggest companies : live.euronext.com/en/product/indices/FR0003500008-XPAR/market-information (click on "more details" to see everything) And I think she just searched for the website of each company individually
Merci Rosie pour cette très intéressante vidéo qui me permet en plus d'améliorer mon anglais (votre élocution est parfaite) . What makes you think that you have a dark soul?
SOS ! Trying to get my visa to begin my internship in Paris! Have you had to submit a convention de stage to the department of interior (DREETS?) & if so how long did it take for them to approve or deny your application?
sincerelly, you've been scolded for e-mailing directly a homefellow you had the email adress of , and for not putting e-mails adresses in hyerarchical order in the CC field???? What kind of psychos were your employers?
Thank you for pointing this out, I am going internship at another brand, will ask my manager tomorrow about email hierarchy as I have to send reports on Tuesday 🤓
Hi sunshine, I applied for an "Alternance" as you with the same international program in HR, you REALLY encourage me :) I have several questions if you do not mind. ofc 1. Did you need to have an interview with them? 2. how did you search for your own internship (I mean the company) 3. which was the hardest part? Best wishes, xoxo
@@NotEvenFrench you are so neat...I have talked about you to many friends and we are older and told them, I hope our little KIWI goes back home and doesn't spend her life in France! One day she will wake up and realize she wished she had spent life among the friendly, non-judgmental, less negative AU, NZ, GB. CAN world etc!
Considering everything you learned about their processes, the materials, the creation of the products etc., do you think that a LV handbag (or other luxury brand of the group) is worth the price?
But did you get to talk to the other New Zealander? Did she actually appreciate you reaching out directly instead of going through the normal networks?
Brands like that drive me nuts. There are real problems in the world and all these ultra wealthy people can think about is the order of emails being CC'd? I'm sure they're fine people, but shoes don't really help the world. Maybe I'm just too INFJ haha
Salut Rosie et tout le monde. J'aime beaucoup cette chaîne et j'aime lire les commentaires! Je suis professeur d'anglais aux États-Unis. Je parle un peu de français mais je ne parle pas beaucoup. J'ai un étudiant francophone d'Afrique qui me demande des recommandations vidéo ou des sites pour les francophones qui apprennent l'anglais. Pouvez-vous m'en recommander?
@@flowerchild2657 Yes, it exists! The only thing is that you have to be quick. If they open your email before you could delete it, then it'll be too late. It saved me a bunch of times though. I mostly use Outlook at the office but my personal mailbox is under Gmail. I believe a similar option exists in Gmail but I never had to use it. To recall an e-mail message that you sent on Outlook, follow this procedure support.office.com/en-us/article/recall-or-replace-an-email-message-that-you-sent-35027f88-d655-4554-b4f8-6c0729a723a0 :)
I mean this whole thing could have been avoided if the manager knew about this. There's nothing wrong about making mistakes as long as you do not constantly repeat them. I've always been taught that you are not failing as long as you're learning!
Oh my lord this is why I left France in the first place. nothing has changed in all those years. It is still the aunt and the family member and the name that counts regardless of what you can do. I hated that hierarchical and butted head so much I realised early on that I had an Anglo-Saxon attitude I am so unable to give praise the first thing I see is mistakes and I want them corrected now I had to learn to praise others when they do a good job. I miss the arguing thing Anglo saxons are so bad at it and cave in so quickly then you need to say it is not about you it is about the work so so many memories
Yes, but that may be why two very large global companies are run and owned by a single family (Arnault for LVMH, Bettencourt for L'OREAL, Mulliez Family for AUchan, Decathlon, Leroy-Merlin) and not owned by pension funds that have absolutely nothing to do with their employees or their reputation but only of the dividends that they will have to redistribute to the shareholders.
@@unrulycrow6299 You're wrong. It has quite a lot to do with the motto of the country. The motto is a direct outcome of the French Revolution and the ideas of communism that were starting to take shape as a political doctrine at that time. The French people revolted against another restrictive hierarchy which limited their liberty and stratified their nation into non-egalitarian segments, with a hyper-elite, hyper-wealthy small group (nobility) at it's pinnacle. Thus, the irony is that, in that very same society that gave birth to that motto, there is now a different set of hyper-elite, hyper-wealthy people (global capitalists) running a massive conglomerate where part of the corporate culture is stratified, non-egalitarian and restrictive in nature. Side note: The word communism derives from the French word commun, which means common. As in, things held in common by the people for the benefit of all in an egalitarian manner. (You'll get no argument from me that real-world implementations of communism radically differ from the theoretical concepts.)
The politics & ego thing in management irritates me beyond words... I guess the older I get the less it matters or impresses me. We are all human & we all have jobs that work together to make the business successful. Humility is always the correct path. Love your videos, Ms Rosie! Take care & be safe.
I’m at a new company and I’m feeling awful, incompetent, disheartened and this video helped me to realize I’m not alone. Thank you.
My neighbour down my street is native French. She is a seamstress and is an expert in tambour embroidery. She has a talent and a gift to create what is wanted and needed in haute couture. She did a test for impromptu design and both Chanel and Louis Vuitton wanted her. She chose Chanel and worked closely with the design team headed by Karl Lagerfeld. This is what dreams are made of!!! She and I have become close and she decided to teach me the basics of tambour. She then became full French mistress. It’s no joke, the harsh criticism comes out and for very good reason. They want you to strive for excellence at every level. And most importantly be aware of your actions and the impact it has on the final outcome. The harsh criticism also was unleashed on my lack lustre French. Hahaha I won’t let it discourage me. But, yes it hurt and I avoided my friend for a week. PS. I loved hearing your experiences. I think your career is inspiring and really influential. Most especially on me ❤️❤️
One of my favorite videos from you! Well done. I would love more story times!
This is such a fantastic sharing for everyone to learn from you...especially the young...like you said, it's wonderful to have a mentor or ANYONE to share their experiences and knowledge to give you a heads up! That helps in many life situations besides work!
This video is full of 'Devil wears Prada' feels 😂 Especially when you said you stood out because you didn't care about the industry!
Thank you for your generosity in talking about the “mistakes” that you made (we all would have made them too) ;) and for filling us in about the French protocols! So interesting Rosie x
"ChamP Elysée" epic. Hahaa
Thanks for sharing your experience from such company!
Kia Ora, you are such a star for sharing your ups and downs! That's why I love Aotearoa and kiwis. Love ya heaps! You deserve all the success in the world...
Even as a French woman, I really feel like I would make lots of faux pas 😟😟😟
Really relatable, even as a french girl beginning to work in a big industry (which isn't luxury). thank you for this video!
You met the high level of French snobisme. At the same time congrats and bon courage. C'est un milieu qui peut être enchanteur pour une professionnelle débutante mais c'est aussi le milieu des coups bas, des envieux et des jaloux de métiers. Milieu très très superficiel dans sa communication, très hypocrite dans ses compliments. Vous allez découvrir que vous devrez toujours quelque chose à quelqu'un, que votre place vous est prêtée et que vous ne valez que ce que valent vos protecteurs. C'est en fait le même univers que la politique ou le show-business mais dans l'industrie.
Trèa bien dit. Je suis tout à fait d'accord et je ne travaille pas dans milieu mais pour un leader mondial dans une autre Industrie. C'est applicable au corporate environment je pense.
I'm moving to France end of the month to do my master's! I also have an internship component, so I'm doing my research now. This video was helpful, although I'm in a different industry, it's been great to hear your perspective! Thanks 🤗
I love many aspects of French culture but the hierarchical, old school traditions of business culture simply do not resonate. As a Canadian entrepreneur heavily influenced by American business culture, and a part-owner of a staffing firm, the idea that you are not allowed to reach out to anyone you please unless you have 'permission' is just silly. The person you reached out to may not have time or inclination to reach back. But it's not 'wrong' to ask!
This is by far your best video yet. Extremely captivating and interesting while still staying respectful to your former employer. You're such an amazing person, it doesn't surprise me at all that you landed that sort of internship. I can totally relate to the feeling of being the odd one out in fancy, corporate settings at that age. As a 20-25 year old you feel very grownup until you're thrown into the real world and realise you're just a wee baby in many ways. It's such an important learning experience though and was clearly very character building for you since you're so very professional yet personal and humble now. Putting peoples' e-mail adress in hierarchal order has never even crossed my mind but is something I'll remember (though I'm in and from Sweden, where culture's very different from France). It's a bit silly, and you shouldn't have been scolded for it, but I do love the sense of detail of the French.
You'll have to do a Part 2 of this + Part 3.
You’re such an ispiration to someone with the same passion and comming from a small town as well, good job!
I feel like they should have told you beforehand what they expected regarding hierarchy in emails, etc and given you prior training rather than scolding you after making the mistake. How were you to know if they didn't inform you?
They wouldn't know what she didn't know since she's foreign. Maybe it's obvious to French people.
I don't think it's a French thing and is more of a Louis Vuitton/prestegious company thing (and a government thing that I have also experienced in the US). She had a very particular experience in France that can't necessairly be extrapolated to the rest of the country.
@@pscar1 it's actually a french thing. The culture likes hierarchy. Though it s slowely changing
@@pscar1 , It IS a French thing. Her story made me re-live parts of my own career. When she talked about some things she had done, I found myself saying out loud: Ah, yes! So very familiar! (At times) So true! There's nothing like the high expectations of the French workplace, most especially in luxury. Nothing.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I have a childhood friend who worked for a while for LVMH and it was also very dificut for her, even though she's French. I think the fashion industry has a very specific work culture. Anyway, "bravo!", not everyone could have achieved what you have!
This was definitely your most sincere/honest video.
Wow! Just WOW! Thank you for sharing your experiences! I'm still trying to learn French as part of exploring my French heritage. I am dyslexic and had enough trouble learning to read and write in English, my mother-tongue. So perseverance is my only hope. I chanced across your channel with the video about pronouncing French brand names. But I will definitely be staying as one of your subscribers! Thank you, Elizabeth
Fascinating video. You have the talent to go far! Bon courage.
Bonjour, travailler pour ce type d'enseignes est très difficile. La rigueur et le stress sont très présents, mais tu as acquis le principal pour travailler dans n'importe quelle société. Je suis sure que cette expérience t'ouvrira de nombreuses portes. Bonne continuation.
Fantastic video Rosie! Have you ever considered writing a book? Specifically about how you navigated those early years, with an emphasis on logistics and tips like the ones you gave here, but more detailed and extensive. I think it would be great (if you're into writing, that is!).
Great video! However, I'm pretty sure that a lot of these "cultural" aspects are really specific to the luxury industry. As you said, everyone is there through their network or family, so there are probably a lot of untold rules in this sector. I'm part of a CAC40 company as well but it's really chill, t-shirt and jeans everyday, no problem with hierarchy in the emails for example haha (btw our HR are pretty bad at scoping their emails.. A lot of unnecessary emails are sent to the whole company.. ^^)
Monsieur travaille dans une entreprise du CAC40 et alors ?
Peut être ne connaissez vous pas les ”petites mains ” de C grandes maisons 😢!
Heureusement qu'elles sont là pour fabriquer car les patrons ou cadres de ces entreprises n’auraient jamais le même résultat sans ces personnes que vous semblez ” mépriser ”,😢
L’appartement ou maison que vous occupez !
Ce n’est pas vous ? 😢
Du respect et retenue C mieux 😮
@@francisleveque2939 vous avez dû mal comprendre mon message car il n'y a aucun mépris dans ce que j'ai dit 🤔 Je disais au contraire que dans d'autres grandes boîtes, il n'y avait pas du tout cette ambiance toxique dont elle parle.
As an Indian who started as an intern in a big French bank I can totally relate to your experiences. I had a hard time as well because I lacked the knowledge of social codes. It was a huuuuge learning curve! (But the French lux company sounds like a horrible place to work at - I'd go crazy if I had to think about the order of email IDs 😑)
Sounds like an amazing experience!! On a side note private sales makes me goosebumps
Could you tell us how you landed such an amazing internship, tips and any difficulties you faced applying for an opportunity to work at LVMH. I love your channel and the content you create, they’re so engaging and relevant to anyone interested in the subjects you discuss! Xo
But she DID tell in details how she looked for, and found, applied and get the internship
@@marinaalex0510 I was looking for more specific details e.g. how she wrote her application letter. Thanks for your nice reply.
These days the company has really high standards and expectations. They prefer multilingual candidates (Especially in French and English but, bear in mind there is American English, and the British form of English. Verbage/expressions and spelling are different, and you need to be well versed in both aspects). You need to really respect French culture, even if you have differing opinions. Some subjects are taboo. Respect for chain of command is important, and like she said, many interns/employees come from prominent families. It's kind of, who you know well, and how well they know you will represent their brands, honestly because you do wear it, and can wear it like a brand representative. Also, where you attended university and a master's degree in related fields in the luxury business industry are key. It's so highly competitive, some people will move on to other areas of business. If you pursue it, you have to be pretty thick skinned. It's not glamorous until you start reaching the levels of hierarchy that are.
I relate to a lot of this, though I worked in a medium sized French company not a giant. My work was critiqued to the point of frustration when I felt I did exactly what my manager asked for. Also, the hierarchy thing. My husband, who is French, often tells me about the drama with writing emails. He's at an upper management position, but he still has to go through his boss to talk to his bosses boss, and the emails he sends must have his manager in copy. It's more formal than the companies I've worked for in the US !
Purely french mgt. I hate it so much, even being French, i ve left the country avoiding meeting french mger.
Thank you for all the insight and inspiration you provide. You are humble, knowledgeable, generous, and entertaining. Thanks Rosie!
LVMH sounds like an excellent company to work for. Lucky you!
Love this!! How interesting - I appreciated you sharing all of it with us esp the embarrassing bits.
Will check out Lingoda too!
So fabulous! I absolutely love you Rosie. Each video is my favorite. I absolutely LOVED this one also. ❤️
I did a similar thing for my masters studies in the US, except that I worked for a different, large cosmetic company. I'll just say that it was a learning experience for sure. My home office was very relaxed and friendly, but once I started working at the US headquarters, I learned the true meaning of French hierarchy and what people would do to climb the ladder.
I work for a different European company now, but to show how much I learned, just last week I informed a new-ish employee about the order of recipients in an email she planned on sending.
That internship is my dream! How did you get it? What did you study? I’d love hearing hours and hours about your experience there. Lovely video 😊🥰❤️
My word! That tale of what it was like in the belly of a high fashion company makes me glad I am an engineer! :lol:.
We are presently seriously looking into moving to France and that obviously means there is a need to find work (retirement is at least a decade away yet). So some insights like these into how a company can be rigidly hierarchical are a most useful heads-up. Thank you.
Hi @Not Even French i really enjoyed this video. Thank you for sharing your work experience. I assure you that you earned a new subscriber just with this video. Thank you again for sharing your experiences. I am hoping i study and work for some time in France and was doing some research and found your page and i'm glad i did.
c"est toujours aussi agréable de vous écouter , très bonne continuation.
One of my favourite videos of yours
Great video. Kiwi here. Can relate so much to the hierarchal stuff after having spent some time in a communications agency here. Ended up being too much for me and I left. Go you for sticking it out! :)
You should write a book: french psycho
I enjoyed this video. It was very informative.
I admire you for being able to work in this kind of environment. I don't believe in constructive criticism and criticizing someone after they did a mistake that they had no idea would be a mistake in the first place is plain rude. I believe that criticism kills one's self esteem and drive to do better and better we're humans not robots to be pushed to the extreme to do better and better without any encouragement or praise
that reinforces what I said it absolutely destroys your self esteem. for those of you who could handle it I admire you a lot because I can not I feel that when somebody pushes you to be better even thogh you're at the top they 're just doing it to bully not to help you improve who could ever improve by being put down? but then again, everyone's different and if you grew up in this emvironment you find it normal
@@RoseDawsonworld no it doesn't. and how else will someone learn from their mistakes if they aren't corrected
@@lavinder11 if thery want to learn from their mistakes and correct them they will without anyone pointing it out. As responsible adults we don't need to be told what to do and when we're wrong. We're supposed to know that.
All of your videos are good. This one to me was especially good.and relevant. France interests me. I have been to Paris twice and am planning a trip to Marseilles, France at Christmas. I believe there are no accidents. The spell check came up for 'Marseilles'. I have seen two spellings regular, with and without the end 's'. I have no clue which is correct. And the French Business insights were, I would say valuable.
It's MARSEILLE 😉 If you're talking about the inhabitants though, they're MARSEILLAIS; same for a male inhabitant. A female one is called a MARSEILLAISE. Yes, like our national anthem 😉 Hope it helps 😊 Enjoy Marseille, I'm a Parisian who never went there (foreigners do actually know France much better than I do 😂!)
This is very interesting and helpful Rosie! Brilliant.
Great video and useful tips about working in France 🇫🇷 Did you end up meeting the lady you emailed? Also what was your strategy later on networking that you developed 👍🏻
I really enjoy your channel. It’s refreshing from an English point of view. Have given any thought to going back to France 🇫🇷 and living full time?
Pros and Cons of considering such a move. Things to be aware of being a single female (I.e. crime, which arrondissement is best. Best places to go to immerse yourself in French to try to become fluent). Best vacation spots, best city outside of Paris to live.
I'm an American. Even in the USA if you are a low level employee or an intern it would be looked down on if you had contacted a manager and asked for a meeting to learn how they got to where they are. It would appear that you are trying to replace them when you are just a newbie.
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
Hi :) I've been following your videos for quite some time now. I'm always surprised hearing your experience in France (social and work wise) how French people have been rude to you. Every time I hear you say "my boyfriend said 'you should never do that in France'", "this lady looked at me that way", I'm actually super shocked. I'm sorry you had to learn the French culture the hard way. I've never seen the French culture and society as judgmental. I mean, in LVMH, it doesn't surprise me at all, but outside of this work environment... Anyway, what I want to say is that it makes me really sad how you see the French culture so stiff and rude :( it's really not what I want to portray as a French person.
Léonie Sokolowski In general, French culture appears rude to foreigners. I’m not sure why, which is too bad because France is a beautiful country. But I also had a similar internship experience in France and decided to move to the US.
Hi Rosie! Just love your accent. I'm a big fan of Kiwi alternative rock. Love from Toulouse x
Good for you! You are a courageous and ambitious person. I would have been one of those crying interns. I take everything personal!
can you pleeeaaase make a video about French Parenting VS your experience ? =D
I’m excited for this one
The hierarchy order of email ID is also sooo true here in Japan 😁
Love your videos but this one was especially interesting. You are brave!
Super video, Rosie!! Thanks for sharing all your insights. Do you mind asking which school you went to for your masters? I'm currently research my options. Cheers!
I'm a retired tax expert and worked with high net worth individuals....Michael Schumacher was a client - though not pointing the finger at him! The more time I spent in this environment the more contempt I had for the greed and arrogance of the super wealthy.
Always interesting to Watch your channel,
and I Don't speak English since three years (since I'm back in France) so it's good for me to ear you.
And I love NZ! (I was there...in 2009 2010 2011...A PARADISE! each Morning I ask to me Why I 'm back in France lol ^^)
see you
so why are you back to France ?
@@camembertdalembert6323 Family and work^^, Today I can go back in Australia or NZ (I have an IBN ^^ ok for a job)…….may be...
Bonne vidéo! J'ai beaucoup appris. J'apprends le français aussi.
Félicitations : contrairement à certains commentaire de Français sur d'autres chaînes YT, vous n'avez fait aucune faute 👏🏻👏🏻, j'ai cru que vous étiez français(e)😊
il y a 1 seconde
Here's my ridiculous hierarchy experience in a French company. I worked in retail for a well known French brand. I had a question about options an employee had if they wished to quit. I wrote an email to HR, never got a response, however i received a call from my regional manager. She yelled at me like at a child for surpassing hierarchy. She said i couldn't contact HR (!) directly! And that email has never been answered by HR.
I still cannot believe the ridiculousness of this situation.
I think you landed on the most "snobbish" part of LVMH because you basically cumulated HR + Paris + contacts with the highest hierarchy. My personal experience working at MH in Champagne is enterely different as I was in R&D and in Reims which is a smaller city. People really had the same comitment to perfection and luxury but from what I hear the working environment was drastically different. I could dress however I wanted, people were really natural and open minded and even if I was mainly working with oenologists I never really had any issues with egos or "political" things. Anyway my point is it could be more linked to Paris and your field of work than LVMH. In fact I think many people in France who work at Big companies in Paris could relate to your story :)
Very informative. Good to know the culture in the French corporate world.
I love this! Thank you 🙏
Fascinating to hear. You kept yourself you but adapted as well.
I always remember your story about the time you called someone Mr. Jambe or Jambon, I don't remember anymore but that was epic
@@NotEvenFrench yeeaah HAHAHAH OMG, I love this story so muuuuuch. One time I mixed up "glisser" with "pisser" and I told my teacher "je suis en retard parce que j'ai pissé sur une crote de chien en venant à l'école". I still remember her scared look
@@NotEvenFrench PMSL!!! In Italy I have done a double take sometimes at the names. One guy introduced himself as Signor Pompini (Mr Blowjobs 😨) and I replied 'A-ha! I see you have developed a British sense of humour!'' Turns out his name actually WAS Mr Pompini...
This is fascinating content!
Fascinating !
It reminded me of the series where Lily Collins is one of the main cast. Anyways, I got my internship at Consumerchoice and they offer a great WFH internship program.
Can you make a video about not drinking/declining alcohol in France?
Thank you for sharing your experience
Very insightful.
Great video!
Glad to hear about this language learning system.
I will be there in a little over a month but seriously may do this before I return for summer.
You experience would make a great book. You should write a novel.
Very interesting!
Hi Rosie very interesting. Talk a little slower so we can visualize what your saying. Your a very lucky girl his wonderful you are living your dream
you are intelligent to have had this opportunity. Your mom a saint. God Bless
Yikes... as someone who has worked in Europe and the U.S. some of these experiences you had as an intern sound like a complete waste of company time. The email hierarchy... come on... that's just asinine. If you have time to look at that then there are bigger issues at hand.
I thought you might be hard to like
. I was utterly wrong. I thought a artist from N.Z and Fr. was the equivalent to jumbo shrimp. Your awesome sauce from l.a ca
Ohhh nonnnn.....les sous-titres Rosy....😢 je suis telment nulle en anglais...je n'arrive pas à suivre quand tu ne les mets pas...même si je m'améliore un peu grâce à ta chaîne, que j'adore suivre ! 💙
Moi j'ai eu les sous-titres (en anglais) pourtant 🤔. Vous avez peut-être oublié d'activer la fonction dans les paramètres YT...
Could you provide the link where you found the list of top French companies to intern at? Can't make out what you said catcahunt (time stamped 5:09)? Also, which visa did you need?Thx
Could you please mention the website where you searched internship. Also did you start applying even before you started you masters ?
This is the list of the biggest companies : live.euronext.com/en/product/indices/FR0003500008-XPAR/market-information (click on "more details" to see everything)
And I think she just searched for the website of each company individually
Merci Rosie pour cette très intéressante vidéo qui me permet en plus d'améliorer mon anglais (votre élocution est parfaite) .
What makes you think that you have a dark soul?
@@NotEvenFrench je pense donc que vous avez, comme moi, beaucoup apprécié la série "Breaking bad".
SOS ! Trying to get my visa to begin my internship in Paris! Have you had to submit a convention de stage to the department of interior (DREETS?) & if so how long did it take for them to approve or deny your application?
sincerelly, you've been scolded for e-mailing directly a homefellow you had the email adress of , and for not putting e-mails adresses in hyerarchical order in the CC field???? What kind of psychos were your employers?
Rules like that are common in large corporations regardless of which country.
I'm not surprised
Thank you for pointing this out, I am going internship at another brand, will ask my manager tomorrow about email hierarchy as I have to send reports on Tuesday 🤓
Hi sunshine, I applied for an "Alternance" as you with the same international program in HR, you REALLY encourage me :)
I have several questions if you do not mind. ofc
1. Did you need to have an interview with them?
2. how did you search for your own internship (I mean the company)
3. which was the hardest part?
Best wishes, xoxo
So pumped
@@NotEvenFrench you are so neat...I have talked about you to many friends and we are older and told them, I hope our little KIWI goes back home and doesn't spend her life in France! One day she will wake up and realize she wished she had spent life among the friendly, non-judgmental, less negative AU, NZ, GB. CAN world etc!
Considering everything you learned about their processes, the materials, the creation of the products etc., do you think that a LV handbag (or other luxury brand of the group) is worth the price?
So everybody else in this company had their job because of their connections but you got recruted to work their from New Zealand just by chance?
But did you get to talk to the other New Zealander? Did she actually appreciate you reaching out directly instead of going through the normal networks?
Brands like that drive me nuts. There are real problems in the world and all these ultra wealthy people can think about is the order of emails being CC'd? I'm sure they're fine people, but shoes don't really help the world. Maybe I'm just too INFJ haha
Salut Rosie et tout le monde. J'aime beaucoup cette chaîne et j'aime lire les commentaires!
Je suis professeur d'anglais aux États-Unis. Je parle un peu de français mais je ne parle pas beaucoup. J'ai un étudiant francophone d'Afrique qui me demande des recommandations vidéo ou des sites pour les francophones qui apprennent l'anglais. Pouvez-vous m'en recommander?
Votre français est pourtant excellent 👏🏻
Does your ex-manager know there's an option in Outlook that lets you delete an already sent email?
I didn't know such an option existed!!! I rarely use my hotmail account, always the gmail one. How do we proceed?
@@flowerchild2657 Yes, it exists! The only thing is that you have to be quick. If they open your email before you could delete it, then it'll be too late. It saved me a bunch of times though. I mostly use Outlook at the office but my personal mailbox is under Gmail. I believe a similar option exists in Gmail but I never had to use it. To recall an e-mail message that you sent on Outlook, follow this procedure support.office.com/en-us/article/recall-or-replace-an-email-message-that-you-sent-35027f88-d655-4554-b4f8-6c0729a723a0 :)
I mean this whole thing could have been avoided if the manager knew about this. There's nothing wrong about making mistakes as long as you do not constantly repeat them. I've always been taught that you are not failing as long as you're learning!
Thank you very much for the tip 😊
Rosie why we're you looking for internship in Russian or English? Why are the specific? Thanks
This is just a click bait advertisement
Please I want to know which university you went to for your masters
Oh my lord this is why I left France in the first place. nothing has changed in all those years. It is still the aunt and the family member and the name that counts regardless of what you can do. I hated that hierarchical and butted head so much I realised early on that I had an Anglo-Saxon attitude I am so unable to give praise the first thing I see is mistakes and I want them corrected now I had to learn to praise others when they do a good job. I miss the arguing thing Anglo saxons are so bad at it and cave in so quickly then you need to say it is not about you it is about the work so so many memories
Yes, but that may be why two very large global companies are run and owned by a single family (Arnault for LVMH, Bettencourt for L'OREAL, Mulliez Family for AUchan, Decathlon, Leroy-Merlin) and not owned by pension funds that have absolutely nothing to do with their employees or their reputation but only of the dividends that they will have to redistribute to the shareholders.
Do you miss France and will you go back?
Whatever happened with the Kiwi manager?
Irony: liberté, *égalité*, fraternité ... not allowed to treat people "above" you as equals and speak to them without permission.
That's called hierarchy in a company, it has nothing to do with the motto of the country.
@@unrulycrow6299 You're wrong. It has quite a lot to do with the motto of the country. The motto is a direct outcome of the French Revolution and the ideas of communism that were starting to take shape as a political doctrine at that time. The French people revolted against another restrictive hierarchy which limited their liberty and stratified their nation into non-egalitarian segments, with a hyper-elite, hyper-wealthy small group (nobility) at it's pinnacle. Thus, the irony is that, in that very same society that gave birth to that motto, there is now a different set of hyper-elite, hyper-wealthy people (global capitalists) running a massive conglomerate where part of the corporate culture is stratified, non-egalitarian and restrictive in nature.
Side note: The word communism derives from the French word commun, which means common. As in, things held in common by the people for the benefit of all in an egalitarian manner. (You'll get no argument from me that real-world implementations of communism radically differ from the theoretical concepts.)