They did it without great aero though. Their cars were not as efficient as the cars Adrian built. Eventually that bit them in the ass. I think though that he learned a lesson about engines which is why he’s left RBR/Ford for a Honda project. The engines scared him away.
@@f.kieranfinney457 I don't know why this drivel is constantly repeated. Merc in the mid to late 2010's had arguably on par aero as RB. '14, '15, '16 we can chalk it up as being mainly about the engine however they pioneered several suspension innovations in that time frame. They were the most innovative team and their in-season development was unparralled.
Red bull still had the better aero. Mercedes dominated due to their engine being miles ahead of the grid. If red bull had a smile engine, Mercedes wouldn’t have half the championships they have now
Newey has literally been working for a rich energy drinks company with no racing heritage for 20+ years… Aston Martin has far more racing heritage and prestige than Red Bull…
Please. Aston Martin is part of billionaire/oligarch Lawrence Stroll's ongoing effort to buy his son success and make money for his Saudi oil friends. The Strolls are a terrible part of F1, and to see Newey sink to working with them would be really sad. Hasn't he made enough money?
Aston Martin has every right to be on the grid. Envy politics should be left at the door. These are corporate organisations not back yard garage outfits. The stroll money is as good as Italian money. Let’s see what they can do.
Haha. Get the feeling Toto isn't too worried, not like Mercedes don't have their own share of engineering talent to win 8 consecutive constructor's and make remarkable in-season progress so far this year with a new-to-them concept after finally dropping the flawed 2022-23 concept. So much coverage of the upper echelons of leadership, so little of the signs that point to Merc having exceptional rank-and-file talent relative to most of the grid and continue delivering fantastic engineering outside a concept miss.
It makes sense to me. Didn't Newey get the same sort of stick when he went to Red Bull, a mere drinks company? Aston Martin might be well heeled, but they're still an underdog team in terms of results. And they're a young team. So I'd think that Newey probably sees it as a fresh challenge. If he went to Merc, or Ferrari, or McLaren, he probably wouldn't have the same type of input.
Currently, I don't think Zak places that high of a value on Adrian. Probably a good decision if the inertia braking bias valve was the reason this whole time. Lawrence is happy to grossly overpay for whatever real talent advantage Adrian may represent.
Of course it makes sense. Peter on this occasion isn’t making sense. Adrian wants a CHALLENGE, not a walk in the park. If he can make Lance champion, that will be his greatest achievement in the sport. FACT. Not that difficult to understand is it Peter.
@@rickmajor Apart from Canadian/ Slavic $Multi-Billionaire Lawrence Sheldon Strulovitch with a full head of 'Silver Panther' hair, Fernando 'Spanish Peacock' Alonso at a venerable 43 years of age, is the oldest needs-to-be-physical-and-actually-drive-a- race-car 'team member' of Aston Martin on The Grid. (Not forgetting the stalwart old warhorse Martin Whitmarsh of once-upon-a-time McLaren man, if he's still on the Aston Martin payroll, as the rejuvenated wise old head on the shoulders, with oodles of Saudi Arabian 'filthy lucre' for company, gently awakened to do 'The Sleeping Giant' act in The Pit Lane and not On The Wall. . .
Doesn’t matter Peter what you think looks good! Adrian should go where he feels it’s right for him! He’s managed to make the right decisions his whole career!
Andy Cowell has won races with almost every single engine he’s built. Has a record that stands with Newey and Schumacher. Perfect person to talk to Honda for Aston Martin.
Peter often talks about Adrian Newey as though he is the only competent design engineer in the world. As sure as night follows day there will be a talented designer waiting in the wings, ready to make their mark and take the crown. Vettel and Ricciardo both had a reputation for being top drivers. But they jumped ship and never again rediscovered the magic they once had, that could be Newey,
i mean look at the last 25 years...20 of those years he had the best aero cars for mclaren or red bull,if not the best a very unique and different design and close to the best
@@jayxclusive96 Adrian newey didn't design that much of the actual car and floor or on the RB18/19 and now 20. Its actually Wache who is the teamlead not Newey. Fun part is that RB was having a problem with the locking of the suspension. Newey has spent most of his research time on the suspension. In fact he was one of the only people to work on the suspension in Red Bull so that he could prevent the porpoising and other issues that most teams had at the beginning of this new era. That area he worked on seems to be exactly the problem they are having right now... suspension locking over the curbs!
I think Adrian Newey might favor Aston Martin because he worked with them on the Valkyrie. Also Honda. With Red Bull he might have had a great time when they worked with Aston and Honda. Max also loves to work with the people at Honda btw.
Hi, Peter. I wonder whether everybody is getting too obsessed with where Adrian Newry does or doesn't go. I think he is the sort of man that needs a challenge, rather than a team that is already close to being top drawer. It's not just a case of turning up and creating a championship winning car in one season, is it? As you rightly say, he can only do that if he has complete control of design, and that could take a few years anyway. I can't see any one of the top teams giving him that much leeway when they are already knocking on the door without him.
Adrian newey didn't design that much of the actual car and floor or on the RB18/19 and now 20. Its actually Wache who is the teamlead not Newey. Fun part is that RB was having a problem with the locking of the suspension. Newey has spent most of his research time on the suspension. In fact he was one of the only people to work on the suspension in Red Bull so that he could prevent the porpoising and other issues that most teams had at the beginning of this new era. That area he worked on seems to be exactly the problem they are having right now... suspension locking over the curbs! You didnt hear anything from British media.. they are praising Newey as a saint, oh wait overhyping another British, watching dejavu here with LH.
Toto's Mercedes beat Newey cars for a lot of consecutive years for him to be sweating about not paying out the nose for him. Also the in-season progress Merc have made this year after finally dropping the fundamentally flawed concept of 2022-23 shows they still have tremendous engineering talent to take a fresh to them concept, make consistent positive progress, and find themselves with a legitimate race winning capable car.
I think Newey to Aston makes all the sense. Stroll will give the keys to the ship and unlimited cash. He can do exactly what he wants. No Horner, Brown or tifosi drama and egos to deal with. Newey could run the entire show very easily and quickly
I think the opposite....I think it'll go badly...Aston Martin F1 appears a soulless place, I just can't see Adrian being happy there, particularly working under Lawrence Stroll. I hope he goes to Ferrari or is welcomed into the mighty Audi family.
ofcourse its over 3 years. one man who is not a driver and who does'nt bring his own revenue cannot be worth that much to any F1 team. do not get me wrong, Adrian is a legend however $100m a year is definitely too much for one technical staff.
Newey is RICH. He didn’t make this deal just for a big payday. He gets race cars. Street cars. Racing boats. Maybe bicycles. And brand new toys to build them with.
Honda should boot Alonso in 1 sec. He was disrespectful when Honda needed him. Now he shouldn't get the honour of having a great Honda engine. Alonso was and is a great driver, not such a great man.
Fernando in his PEAK pushes that horribly designed Ferrari to the limit and now maybe his 85% of PEAK can bring brilliantly designed AMR26 to the championship, I assume.
So I’m trying to understand your critique on the matter. You stated that the combination of Newey, Caul, Honda, and a very big budget is expected to produce an excellent car. Are you suggesting that Maclaren don’t have boat loads of money? So why is it any different is Newey chose Maclaren? This is F1, an obscene amount of money for a par for the course. I think it’s quite clear that Aston is likely Newey’s pick as they will give him free rein to do what he wants. Plus he’s already tested the working environment through the design he’s already done for Aston.
Peter, you are a snob. Aston is the obvious choice for Newey. Money. Stays home. Outside projects. Creative freedom. No baggage. Big challenge. He has an ego. Imagine if he turns Aston into a top 3 team? Accolades out the whazoo! Honestly, what challenge would a legacy team offer to Adrian Newey at this point?
Also saying that Lawrence would not want someone quick next to lance is ridiculous considering that since the rebrand he hired two world champions to be his teammates
He will love going to Aston Martin because he will prove that the real stars in Formula 1 are the engineers, not the drivers. Why would Aston Martin be wrong but a soft drink company would be OK? Suck it up, Peter, Lance will be world champion in 2027.
I feel it's a shame Adrian went to AM. To me AM appear to not be a serious team but more of a hobby for Lawrence Stroll and to keep Lance in F1. I mean if they were truly serious in their attempt they would have sacked Lance long time ago, period. As long as Lance is not changing his driving or perform way better I would never take AM serious. Sure pay drivers exist and all that but never in a top team. And with "never" I mean not the same way it works in the lower tier teams. All drivers have sponsors tied to them which makes everyone "pay" for their seat. Besides me beinga Ferrari fan but I would really have liked Adrian Newey go to Ferrari. If I assume Adrian is on his last days ending in Ferrari would have suited him especially in terms of legacy having Ferrari on his merit list.
Why would he go to McLaren..? He has been there and done that. There is no challenge there they are a top 2 team right now and little to change there. Aston or Williams would be a good test for Newey.
what i remember of Newey, many many years ago now, is he was a try it and see guy - prolific design output that had to have lots of wind tunnel time to see if it worked. Not that he doesn't have brilliant ideas, but I don't think he is quite as effective with the current restrictions as he once was
Sad…sick making…what’s wrong with Austin Martin to come up with such strong negative labeling. One can have his or her’s preferences….but this is a bit ridiculous of you Peter
Lawrence Stroll's #1 shopping list item should be a new driver to replace his son. The team will never, ever be able to win a championship without at least a mostly competent driver in the #2 car. AMR doesn't deserve someone like Newey when they still have a nepo-driver in one of their cars.
Sainz was not sacked, he just didn't have his contract renewed, Logan was sacked. 3 big names have not gone for Newey: Ferrari, McLaren and Mercedes, is it the 3 big times or Newey, something is up! I would have thought like anything in F1, because you decide to leave, you would precisely know your next move, even if it is to intentionally go sailing!
Maybe nando will retire just as Aston get crazy good and Lawrence will hire Latifi so Lance has a shot at world title and become the undisputed GOAT… The master plan is coming together!
Yup. Sad. And, even with a top car Lance Stroll has about the driving capability of a Checo, so he (Stroll), even if the Aston becomes a brilliant car, won't win a championship.
in 10 years when lance is veteran and running the team will see how he does. poor kid cant catch a break with all the jealous F1 fans lol. he got a podium in the williams thats pretty good tbh. he isnt miles of alonsos pace on his favorite tracks. but alonso is really good and makes stroll look slow often
I do think Newey would like the challenge with AM and he probably wants to stay in the UK. But you say unlimited amount of money avaliable? What about the budget cap? Or is that in another money pot?
I can understand why Newey would want to go to Aston, but personally, I wouldn't want to work under the yoke of the Stroll dynasty. Money doesn't mean much if you're stressed out. Adrian Newey seems like a really great guy, and wherever he eventually ends up, I jjust hope he continues having pleasure in creating amazing cars during the last phase of his career.
Wouldn't Honda be a quite big reason for Adrian to go to Aston Martin? Seems reasonable that Aston already has some redbull staff, will have honda and might have Verstappen in a year or so. That gives Adrian a year to work with Alonso, which was also a bucket list thing for him (as well as Hamilton).
Come on Pete, your super loud bias for anything English and aristocracy of old teams needs to go the way of the empire. You were part of a start up F1 team but now you dismiss Stroll and AM? You're so jealous? Come on man, you have more integrity.
Nothing against Adrian Newey but everyone is assuming that he will be the difference maker, but what if he gets its wrong at Aston Martin. He’s only human.??!! Nothing is for sure in this world !!!
Even with a Adrian designed car I think it’s a stretch for lance, I don’t think he is a good driver and if not for daddy $$ he would not even be a driver!
thoughts on cost cap being the worst thing to happen in the sport? not that the idea itself is bad, but the execution terrible, creating a 2 tier society, of team members, where the majority gets screwed down, whilst a few a top get to be paid whatever, it makes zero sense, and ppl switched on to this. before you say, but the racing is close, well think how close 2021 was, the effects of the cost cap were minimal, it was the stable regs that make racing close, not cost cap.
It would be the car design win of all car designs! What travesty? They’ll name race tracks the world over after Newey and he’ll have a lifetime’s supply of maple syrup and 80’s rock music.
@@Enzoblueblood they have, but you know if Newey designs an all conquering car, big daddy stroll will make sure Lance has a SHITE teammate to ensure he’s the number 1 driver. - I must say, I wouldn’t be super confident in baby stroll even in a dominant car, but still… I share Peters view here that Newey going to Aston just feels wrong. Like Man City effectively buying the Premier League title.
AM makes the most sense. Ferrari and Williams would have been the true legacy markers for Newey. Would it really be a bad thing if Stroll wins a championship? However Newey is there so they can sell the team.
I think wherever Newey goes is good for him and the team. Now if we can see Verstappen go to AM-with 2XWCFA (one can dream...)-then we have the mighty AM! But as others have said, there are no guarantees. (Then again, 2XWCFA to RBR would be tasty)
Come on Peter... Don't throw out criticisms like "... money, money, money..." Unless you're going to claim you would not accept near near €100m and for the less desirable option. If you do claim it, we'll need a polygraph 😂
I can see the salespitch Lawrence made to Adrian. “Yes, you made championship winning cars. But imagine how immortal you would become if you can build a car fast enough to make my windowlicking son Lance champion!” 😂
@@VColossalV you think Lawrence will not fire Alonso and put a someone even worse in the other car to make his son champion? Lawrence is a ruthless man. He even gave his wife Lance to punish her! 😂
The AM is already the 3rd RedBull so its no surprise. Newey will whip that car is shape in no time. Too bad they still have to deal with Lance, AM could really rock a real 2nd driver now!!!!
Genuinely interested from someone that is employed in F1 on why Adrian Newey would only work for a UK based team because he wants to live in England? Surely he can live wherever he wants (on his new boat if necessary) and still perform his role irrespective of where the factory or his Direct Reports are based?
He will have to endure until 2026, yeah, but he already made that commitment with or without Newey, before new regulations there was never hope Aston becomes title contender.
Makes the most sense for McLaren but as I said before. RB would have never let Newey start his gardening leave so early if he hadn’t agreed not to move to a top team. I assumed this outcome from the beginning
Very difficult to predict what teams will be at the frontend in 2026. Didn't we all expect the fight between Hamilton and Verstappen to continue in 2022? At the same time, who would have thought (not just hope) that we would have 7 different F1 winners by the summer break? Sure, Newey can design a great car, but there are no guarantees about the engine. Maybe AM will be in the same state as Red Bull in 2014, a great efficient car, but an engine that is not so good as the others.
Adrian Newey is all about cashing in, he goes where he can secure the most money, in that sense Newey-Stroll are a perfect match, both are hot about money, sad? well, it just shoes what they are made of, but yes, maybe we got played by the humble character Newey skillfully displays, in fact he is a shroud business man, don't allow yourself to be fooled and look for alternative Newey protective answers at Mercs or Ferrari.
That's a shame. I thought Dorilton might give him an equity stake in Williams in lieu of salary to free up some cash to get them back up the pointy end. They have a better driver line up than Aston next year.
'Get ready for Lance Stroll to start winning races' - is Stroll a better driver than Perez? Whilst - in the right hands - Newey's cars can dominate championships, on current evidence Stroll has neither the skill nor the temperament to mount a serious challenge. Casting aspersions on Newey's motivations also seems quite off-colour, as does pegging Andy Cowell ahead of Honda's contribution in the current engine supply rankings. After playing catch-up in their insanely optimistic entry to F1, with rules that mitigated heavily against their success, Honda have shown their pedigree in producing formidable power units that are the equal of anything else on the grid. Much more of this sniping and I think I'll be swapping subscriptions away from PW.
Windsor is a party pooper living in the 1960s! I do not like Lawrence Stroll but he seems to be doing everything right and I would love to see Newey take Aston Martin to a World Championship.
I thought all the speculation Newey going to Ferrari-- from Will Buxton no less, seemed misplaced. Newey doesn't want to live in Ferrari. Newey said he always wished he had worked with Lewis or Alonso. Now he has a chance to work with one of them. Aston has all the right ingredients. World class facility, Honda partnership, unlimited budget. Their issue is their updates always go in the wrong direction and they need to understand their aero better. Adrian could be the final ingredient that makes them champions. Once Alonso retires, everyone will be fighting for that seat.
I don't think Newey, even with all Stroll's money, can vault Aston to the front of the field. Newey MUST value control over potential results, or he'd be bound for Mercedes or Ferrari...or maybe it's the money (but couldn't Ferrari or Mercedes match any Stroll offer?)...
@@f.kieranfinney457 I’m from the same town the Strolls are, it’s not nonsensical….Newey will not have a good time there. This won’t be Red bull, wait and see… Stroll will not give Newey the freedom he needs.
He’s a business owner. Not in it to lose. There’s nothing different there from Toto et al. I know he’s a bastard. But there’s zero evidence his team isn’t behind him. That’s where your comment is nonsensical. All you know is rumor. (I actually worked for Stroll late ‘80s indirectly. He was terrifying then too, and has done nothing but succeed since)
I would have liked Adrian to return to Williams, he's already rich so why not finish with a passion project and go where he loved in the past. But 100m is pretty much impossible to turn down, that's an insane number which not even drivers get paid these days. 25m i could see though.
If I was A Adrian Newey. Imagine bringing Ferrari or Mclaren a WDC & WCC after almost 2 decades. That'll be the biggest comeback of the century. I hate the idea of "money buys everything".
Couple of things not quite through this clip from the entire PW show: Ain't announced re: Newey. This is the 4th time around for Ferrari trying to get Him. They should offer the World. After all, that's what's at stake. Newey wouldn't go back to McLaren as the debris from RD still lingers. Nor Williams. Why would he go to Merc as they're favored to excel again for 2026 and beyond. Just some thoughts...thank god there's 5 more days until FP1! 🙂
I feel very bad peter when you say that adrian going to Aston Martin is a bad thing...Hamilton has enough success in great dominant cars and I dont understand why people are not happy with Alonso getting adrian ...Alonso has so many bad luck....and nobody is as motivated at this age as fernando..I am very very happy if Adrian goes to AMR and alonso starts winning. It is really sad state of these F1 commentators like peter and others that they are not happy seeing Alonso finally getting a good car .
And whos going to drive the Newey car, Alonso is going to be 45 and who knows what his mind-state and skill is going to be then, surely Lance will not do it justice as well is he going to be there in '26. Two Big question marks. So i am with you on this Peter
I don't think it's solely money - I think being able to shape the technical department is a huge drawcard. Aston is the only team that will realistically give him so much freedom. Merc and Ferrari are too much about the team and McLaren are in a sweet spot already. I'd still love to see Adrian and Williams 🤞
Merc had the greatest reign in history without him, while also being against him… Adrian is not a guaranteed win
Aero is not going to be as important so it will be interesting to see how this pans out
They did it without great aero though. Their cars were not as efficient as the cars Adrian built. Eventually that bit them in the ass.
I think though that he learned a lesson about engines which is why he’s left RBR/Ford for a Honda project. The engines scared him away.
@@f.kieranfinney457 I don't know why this drivel is constantly repeated. Merc in the mid to late 2010's had arguably on par aero as RB. '14, '15, '16 we can chalk it up as being mainly about the engine however they pioneered several suspension innovations in that time frame. They were the most innovative team and their in-season development was unparralled.
@@f.kieranfinney457 ??? W11 alone is enough!
Red bull still had the better aero. Mercedes dominated due to their engine being miles ahead of the grid. If red bull had a smile engine, Mercedes wouldn’t have half the championships they have now
Degrading AstonMartin “Due to the money thing” is such a odd thing to say, provided Ferrari is far from having a limited budget
Pretending any of these teams are poor is silly.
Newey has literally been working for a rich energy drinks company with no racing heritage for 20+ years…
Aston Martin has far more racing heritage and prestige than Red Bull…
@@ronniefront511 Newey is all about money
Are you kidding? It's Daddy's Little Monster trading on Daddy's money. It's the worst example of pay to play in the history of the sport.
Please. Aston Martin is part of billionaire/oligarch Lawrence Stroll's ongoing effort to buy his son success and make money for his Saudi oil friends. The Strolls are a terrible part of F1, and to see Newey sink to working with them would be really sad. Hasn't he made enough money?
Aston Martin has every right to be on the grid. Envy politics should be left at the door. These are corporate organisations not back yard garage outfits. The stroll money is as good as Italian money. Let’s see what they can do.
petr still mad about toto not reading several of his emails😂😂😂😂
i mean it's not cool from toto it's not like hes doing smart things....his ego is too inflated
Haha. Get the feeling Toto isn't too worried, not like Mercedes don't have their own share of engineering talent to win 8 consecutive constructor's and make remarkable in-season progress so far this year with a new-to-them concept after finally dropping the flawed 2022-23 concept. So much coverage of the upper echelons of leadership, so little of the signs that point to Merc having exceptional rank-and-file talent relative to most of the grid and continue delivering fantastic engineering outside a concept miss.
@@tHebUm18 Peter has titles too
Toto doesn’t even know who Peter is.
PETR is old wood.
Remember, nobody thought Red Bull was much of anything when he went there. Dismissing AM as McDonald's seems a little harsh.
It makes sense to me. Didn't Newey get the same sort of stick when he went to Red Bull, a mere drinks company? Aston Martin might be well heeled, but they're still an underdog team in terms of results. And they're a young team. So I'd think that Newey probably sees it as a fresh challenge. If he went to Merc, or Ferrari, or McLaren, he probably wouldn't have the same type of input.
Currently, I don't think Zak places that high of a value on Adrian. Probably a good decision if the inertia braking bias valve was the reason this whole time. Lawrence is happy to grossly overpay for whatever real talent advantage Adrian may represent.
I really dont get why Peter has a problem with it. Maybe, just maybe Aston can be built into a British Ferrari. He just doesn't like Larry Stroll
Of course it makes sense. Peter on this occasion isn’t making sense. Adrian wants a CHALLENGE, not a walk in the park. If he can make Lance champion, that will be his greatest achievement in the sport. FACT. Not that difficult to understand is it Peter.
Well it makes sense to go to AM in terms of challenge and freshness.
@@rickmajor
Apart from Canadian/ Slavic $Multi-Billionaire Lawrence Sheldon Strulovitch with a full head of 'Silver Panther' hair, Fernando 'Spanish Peacock' Alonso at a venerable 43 years of age, is the oldest needs-to-be-physical-and-actually-drive-a- race-car 'team member' of Aston Martin on The Grid. (Not forgetting the stalwart old warhorse Martin Whitmarsh of once-upon-a-time McLaren man, if he's still on the Aston Martin payroll, as the rejuvenated wise old head on the shoulders, with oodles of Saudi Arabian 'filthy lucre' for company, gently awakened to do 'The Sleeping Giant' act in The Pit Lane and not On The Wall. . .
Doesn’t matter Peter what you think looks good! Adrian should go where he feels it’s right for him! He’s managed to make the right decisions his whole career!
Andy Cowell has won races with almost every single engine he’s built. Has a record that stands with Newey and Schumacher. Perfect person to talk to Honda for Aston Martin.
James Allison has done an amazing job turning Mercedes around. They don’t need Newey.
Speculation. Speculation. Speculation. Come back when he has actually signed for a team.
Peter often talks about Adrian Newey as though he is the only competent design engineer in the world. As sure as night follows day there will be a talented designer waiting in the wings, ready to make their mark and take the crown. Vettel and Ricciardo both had a reputation for being top drivers. But they jumped ship and never again rediscovered the magic they once had, that could be Newey,
Except he has jumped ship multiple times and each team he lands in, he builds a race winner car…he is properly hyped
If you have a mid pack team and lots of money he’s the guy to get
i mean look at the last 25 years...20 of those years he had the best aero cars for mclaren or red bull,if not the best a very unique and different design and close to the best
@@jayxclusive96 Adrian newey didn't design that much of the actual car and floor or on the RB18/19 and now 20. Its actually Wache who is the teamlead not Newey.
Fun part is that RB was having a problem with the locking of the suspension. Newey has spent most of his research time on the suspension. In fact he was one of the only people to work on the suspension in Red Bull so that he could prevent the porpoising and other issues that most teams had at the beginning of this new era. That area he worked on seems to be exactly the problem they are having right now... suspension locking over the curbs!
I think Adrian Newey might favor Aston Martin because he worked with them on the Valkyrie. Also Honda. With Red Bull he might have had a great time when they worked with Aston and Honda. Max also loves to work with the people at Honda btw.
Not sad at all!
What a great mixup
I’m not at all sad if Adrian goes to Aston…I hope he does well there.
its sad there wont be drivers to show that cars potential,i think alonso will drop this year and next year...and stroll is just average at best
Hi, Peter. I wonder whether everybody is getting too obsessed with where Adrian Newry does or doesn't go. I think he is the sort of man that needs a challenge, rather than a team that is already close to being top drawer. It's not just a case of turning up and creating a championship winning car in one season, is it? As you rightly say, he can only do that if he has complete control of design, and that could take a few years anyway. I can't see any one of the top teams giving him that much leeway when they are already knocking on the door without him.
Adrian newey didn't design that much of the actual car and floor or on the RB18/19 and now 20. Its actually Wache who is the teamlead not Newey.
Fun part is that RB was having a problem with the locking of the suspension. Newey has spent most of his research time on the suspension. In fact he was one of the only people to work on the suspension in Red Bull so that he could prevent the porpoising and other issues that most teams had at the beginning of this new era. That area he worked on seems to be exactly the problem they are having right now... suspension locking over the curbs!
You didnt hear anything from British media.. they are praising Newey as a saint, oh wait overhyping another British, watching dejavu here with LH.
Toto's Mercedes beat Newey cars for a lot of consecutive years for him to be sweating about not paying out the nose for him. Also the in-season progress Merc have made this year after finally dropping the fundamentally flawed concept of 2022-23 shows they still have tremendous engineering talent to take a fresh to them concept, make consistent positive progress, and find themselves with a legitimate race winning capable car.
I think Toto would feel adding Adrian would mean admitting defeat. That ain’t happening.
Red Bull got beat for many years because their engine was shit. With a good engine they would have been competing for titles.
I think Newey to Aston makes all the sense. Stroll will give the keys to the ship and unlimited cash. He can do exactly what he wants. No Horner, Brown or tifosi drama and egos to deal with. Newey could run the entire show very easily and quickly
I think the opposite....I think it'll go badly...Aston Martin F1 appears a soulless place, I just can't see Adrian being happy there, particularly working under Lawrence Stroll. I hope he goes to Ferrari or is welcomed into the mighty Audi family.
Stroll is Horner, Tifosi, Brown and Italian press combined in one person...
The Eddie Jordan link Eddie is Adrian's manager, and the Aston Martin team has its roots in Jordan GP.
I heard/read that Mrs Newey wants to live in England, not Italy.
...& Adrian has eluded that same thing in different interviews
Everything you read/hear are fake rumours… ppl fantasise
Newey in Aston means Redbull, Mclaren, Ferrari, Merc and Aston will have a close fights for championships..
I read somewhere that the $100M offer to Newey was over 3 years, not per year.
ofcourse its over 3 years.
one man who is not a driver and who does'nt bring his own revenue cannot be worth that much to any F1 team.
do not get me wrong, Adrian is a legend however $100m a year is definitely too much for one technical staff.
4 years
Newey is RICH. He didn’t make this deal just for a big payday. He gets race cars. Street cars. Racing boats. Maybe bicycles. And brand new toys to build them with.
All just FAKE RUMOURS lol everything is just speculation 😂😂 as long as Newey doesn’t confirm anything, it’s all fake rumours
@@simonmiller5118Newey is 65… he won’t sign a 4 year deal 😂
Peter W. thinking he sparked Adrian's decision is the most egomaniac thing i've seen in a while... just wow
Do we really think Newey is taking calls, let alone advice from Peter Windsor?
I see Aston / Adrian / Max / Honda the 2026 golden combination. Not forget the new ultra modern factory.
if you think they are not building that team around lance for him tow in a WDC you will be very surprised.
first thing they need is sacking lance...and from me i need an alonso win at least...he deserves one after all these years wasted
I’ll bet working on a WEC car too is part of what brought Adrian in.
Hi Peter and all.
Lance Sr has filled jnr's Christmas stocking early with a Newey toy
Was it you or Joe Saward who mentioned that there is no chance that Newey goes to Italy after they tried to put him in Jail for the Senna crash.
Alonso-Newey-Cowell-Honda 😮 look out everybody this will get interesting in 2026
Honda should boot Alonso in 1 sec. He was disrespectful when Honda needed him. Now he shouldn't get the honour of having a great Honda engine. Alonso was and is a great driver, not such a great man.
Rumor is Lance to WEC in 2026. Please let this come to be.
In a Newey designed car. Ta da.
Fernando in his PEAK pushes that horribly designed Ferrari to the limit and now maybe his 85% of PEAK can bring brilliantly designed AMR26 to the championship, I assume.
45 is positively spring chicken these days, I would be surprised if his metabolic age was over 30.
Why Aston trying to do things their own way is sad for many people? I'm just baffled. Aren't they allowed to succeed or what?
This is the same path that grew RB. It’s a great project.
So I’m trying to understand your critique on the matter. You stated that the combination of Newey, Caul, Honda, and a very big budget is expected to produce an excellent car. Are you suggesting that Maclaren don’t have boat loads of money? So why is it any different is Newey chose Maclaren? This is F1, an obscene amount of money for a par for the course. I think it’s quite clear that Aston is likely Newey’s pick as they will give him free rein to do what he wants. Plus he’s already tested the working environment through the design he’s already done for Aston.
McLaren’s finances are dodgy as fuck. Don’t know how Newey feels but Zak gives me the heebie jeebies.
Newey's ludicrous demands
Peter, you are a snob.
Aston is the obvious choice for Newey.
Money. Stays home. Outside projects. Creative freedom. No baggage. Big challenge.
He has an ego. Imagine if he turns Aston into a top 3 team? Accolades out the whazoo!
Honestly, what challenge would a legacy team offer to Adrian Newey at this point?
Also saying that Lawrence would not want someone quick next to lance is ridiculous considering that since the rebrand he hired two world champions to be his teammates
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He will love going to Aston Martin because he will prove that the real stars in Formula 1 are the engineers, not the drivers.
Why would Aston Martin be wrong but a soft drink company would be OK? Suck it up, Peter, Lance will be world champion in 2027.
I feel it's a shame Adrian went to AM. To me AM appear to not be a serious team but more of a hobby for Lawrence Stroll and to keep Lance in F1. I mean if they were truly serious in their attempt they would have sacked Lance long time ago, period. As long as Lance is not changing his driving or perform way better I would never take AM serious. Sure pay drivers exist and all that but never in a top team. And with "never" I mean not the same way it works in the lower tier teams. All drivers have sponsors tied to them which makes everyone "pay" for their seat.
Besides me beinga Ferrari fan but I would really have liked Adrian Newey go to Ferrari. If I assume Adrian is on his last days ending in Ferrari would have suited him especially in terms of legacy having Ferrari on his merit list.
Was Adrian responsible for the inertial brake valve cheat at Red Bull?
You mean the one at McLaren?
And off to Williams he is and Chili and Alex rockin the boat every year a little more… one can dream
Why would he go to McLaren..?
He has been there and done that.
There is no challenge there they are a top 2 team right now and little to change there.
Aston or Williams would be a good test for Newey.
How do you choose the music outros for your videos? They're killer! :)
what i remember of Newey, many many years ago now, is he was a try it and see guy - prolific design output that had to have lots of wind tunnel time to see if it worked. Not that he doesn't have brilliant ideas, but I don't think he is quite as effective with the current restrictions as he once was
@Peter, i back Toto, though. James Allison is great as well. Sad for Lewis, but why are you always giving Toto hate, sir? Oh, the humanity 😊
Sad…sick making…what’s wrong with Austin Martin to come up with such strong negative labeling. One can have his or her’s preferences….but this is a bit ridiculous of you Peter
Lawrence Stroll's #1 shopping list item should be a new driver to replace his son. The team will never, ever be able to win a championship without at least a mostly competent driver in the #2 car. AMR doesn't deserve someone like Newey when they still have a nepo-driver in one of their cars.
Deserve 😂😂😂
Sainz was not sacked, he just didn't have his contract renewed, Logan was sacked. 3 big names have not gone for Newey: Ferrari, McLaren and Mercedes, is it the 3 big times or Newey, something is up! I would have thought like anything in F1, because you decide to leave, you would precisely know your next move, even if it is to intentionally go sailing!
Maybe nando will retire just as Aston get crazy good and Lawrence will hire Latifi so Lance has a shot at world title and become the undisputed GOAT… The master plan is coming together!
Worst thing for F1 is EJ being Newey's manager...
Didn't he get Adrian get a good contract?
Honda and Adrian Newey V2
Yup. Sad. And, even with a top car Lance Stroll has about the driving capability of a Checo, so he (Stroll), even if the Aston becomes a brilliant car, won't win a championship.
in 10 years when lance is veteran and running the team will see how he does. poor kid cant catch a break with all the jealous F1 fans lol. he got a podium in the williams thats pretty good tbh. he isnt miles of alonsos pace on his favorite tracks. but alonso is really good and makes stroll look slow often
They have Alonso to win the championships, it's fine.
**As, Always , Great Insite.. *Thank Yiou , ,,, **Peter**
I do think Newey would like the challenge with AM and he probably wants to stay in the UK. But you say unlimited amount of money avaliable? What about the budget cap? Or is that in another money pot?
I can understand why Newey would want to go to Aston, but personally, I wouldn't want to work under the yoke of the Stroll dynasty. Money doesn't mean much if you're stressed out. Adrian Newey seems like a really great guy, and wherever he eventually ends up, I jjust hope he continues having pleasure in creating amazing cars during the last phase of his career.
Wouldn't Honda be a quite big reason for Adrian to go to Aston Martin? Seems reasonable that Aston already has some redbull staff, will have honda and might have Verstappen in a year or so. That gives Adrian a year to work with Alonso, which was also a bucket list thing for him (as well as Hamilton).
Come on Pete, your super loud bias for anything English and aristocracy of old teams needs to go the way of the empire. You were part of a start up F1 team but now you dismiss Stroll and AM? You're so jealous? Come on man, you have more integrity.
Nothing against Adrian Newey but everyone is assuming that he will be the difference maker, but what if he gets its wrong at Aston Martin. He’s only human.??!! Nothing is for sure in this world !!!
Even with a Adrian designed car I think it’s a stretch for lance, I don’t think he is a good driver and if not for daddy $$ he would not even be a driver!
I've said it before too: Daddy Stroll should've bought a faster team for his son to win in...
thoughts on cost cap being the worst thing to happen in the sport? not that the idea itself is bad,
but the execution terrible, creating a 2 tier society, of team members, where the majority gets screwed down, whilst a few a top get to be paid whatever,
it makes zero sense, and ppl switched on to this.
before you say, but the racing is close, well think how close 2021 was, the effects of the cost cap were minimal, it was the stable regs that make racing close, not cost cap.
If stroll wins a championship it will be a travesty.
Better drivers than Stroll have driven Newey cars and not won.
id be happy for lance if he wins a few. kids been heckled for years lol
It would be the car design win of all car designs! What travesty? They’ll name race tracks the world over after Newey and he’ll have a lifetime’s supply of maple syrup and 80’s rock music.
@@Enzoblueblood they have, but you know if Newey designs an all conquering car, big daddy stroll will make sure Lance has a SHITE teammate to ensure he’s the number 1 driver. - I must say, I wouldn’t be super confident in baby stroll even in a dominant car, but still… I share Peters view here that Newey going to Aston just feels wrong. Like Man City effectively buying the Premier League title.
AM makes the most sense. Ferrari and Williams would have been the true legacy markers for Newey. Would it really be a bad thing if Stroll wins a championship? However Newey is there so they can sell the team.
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The reports, making the rounds, on Newey's package are $100 Mil over 3 years !!
I think wherever Newey goes is good for him and the team. Now if we can see Verstappen go to AM-with 2XWCFA (one can dream...)-then we have the mighty AM! But as others have said, there are no guarantees.
(Then again, 2XWCFA to RBR would be tasty)
one more thing Peter got completely wrong, he just cant take the fact that he is out of F1.
Come on Peter... Don't throw out criticisms like "... money, money, money..." Unless you're going to claim you would not accept near near €100m and for the less desirable option. If you do claim it, we'll need a polygraph 😂
Lawrence will be the most insufferable person to work for. Why would Newey do that to himself.
As opposed to Toto or Zak? Or all of Ferrari?
I can see the salespitch Lawrence made to Adrian. “Yes, you made championship winning cars. But imagine how immortal you would become if you can build a car fast enough to make my windowlicking son Lance champion!” 😂
Don't be silly. Alonso will be champion.
@@VColossalV you think Lawrence will not fire Alonso and put a someone even worse in the other car to make his son champion? Lawrence is a ruthless man. He even gave his wife Lance to punish her! 😂
Peter you also said that in this moment in career Adrian not chasing money
The AM is already the 3rd RedBull so its no surprise. Newey will whip that car is shape in no time. Too bad they still have to deal with Lance, AM could really rock a real 2nd driver now!!!!
We get it. Ur bummed out Uncle Newey didn’t follow HAM.
Genuinely interested from someone that is employed in F1 on why Adrian Newey would only work for a UK based team because he wants to live in England?
Surely he can live wherever he wants (on his new boat if necessary) and still perform his role irrespective of where the factory or his Direct Reports are based?
Alonso will have to endure 2-3 years until a newey model is fully under his feet. That’s with it being issue free development
But if Adrian builds an Aston WEC car Alonzo can keep driving until he’s 50.
He will have to endure until 2026, yeah, but he already made that commitment with or without Newey, before new regulations there was never hope Aston becomes title contender.
Makes the most sense for McLaren but as I said before. RB would have never let Newey start his gardening leave so early if he hadn’t agreed not to move to a top team. I assumed this outcome from the beginning
Very difficult to predict what teams will be at the frontend in 2026. Didn't we all expect the fight between Hamilton and Verstappen to continue in 2022? At the same time, who would have thought (not just hope) that we would have 7 different F1 winners by the summer break? Sure, Newey can design a great car, but there are no guarantees about the engine. Maybe AM will be in the same state as Red Bull in 2014, a great efficient car, but an engine that is not so good as the others.
Adrian Newey is all about cashing in, he goes where he can secure the most money, in that sense Newey-Stroll are a perfect match, both are hot about money, sad? well, it just shoes what they are made of, but yes, maybe we got played by the humble character Newey skillfully displays, in fact he is a shroud business man, don't allow yourself to be fooled and look for alternative Newey protective answers at Mercs or Ferrari.
That's a shame. I thought Dorilton might give him an equity stake in Williams in lieu of salary to free up some cash to get them back up the pointy end. They have a better driver line up than Aston next year.
Williams will be the move
He has been to williams already. He will not go there.
Stroll will be driving an Adrian car😢
He already is
Adrian does not need to go anywhere, as a indipendent they will come to him.
Adrian and Toto are alpha bulls in the same pasture.
Uncomfortable on steroids. 7:56
Peter is just cying that Adrian didn't go to McYank where his little pet Lando is.
I can see Newey designing the road cars at Aston, that's a money making exercise!!
'Get ready for Lance Stroll to start winning races' - is Stroll a better driver than Perez? Whilst - in the right hands - Newey's cars can dominate championships, on current evidence Stroll has neither the skill nor the temperament to mount a serious challenge.
Casting aspersions on Newey's motivations also seems quite off-colour, as does pegging Andy Cowell ahead of Honda's contribution in the current engine supply rankings. After playing catch-up in their insanely optimistic entry to F1, with rules that mitigated heavily against their success, Honda have shown their pedigree in producing formidable power units that are the equal of anything else on the grid.
Much more of this sniping and I think I'll be swapping subscriptions away from PW.
Windsor is a party pooper living in the 1960s! I do not like Lawrence Stroll but he seems to be doing everything right and I would love to see Newey take Aston Martin to a World Championship.
I thought all the speculation Newey going to Ferrari-- from Will Buxton no less, seemed misplaced. Newey doesn't want to live in Ferrari.
Newey said he always wished he had worked with Lewis or Alonso. Now he has a chance to work with one of them.
Aston has all the right ingredients. World class facility, Honda partnership, unlimited budget. Their issue is their updates always go in the wrong direction and they need to understand their aero better. Adrian could be the final ingredient that makes them champions. Once Alonso retires, everyone will be fighting for that seat.
I don't think Newey, even with all Stroll's money, can vault Aston to the front of the field. Newey MUST value control over potential results, or he'd be bound for Mercedes or Ferrari...or maybe it's the money (but couldn't Ferrari or Mercedes match any Stroll offer?)...
Yeah but Aston martin (Stroll) does not provide a good work environnement. Not sure it’s a good move.
Based on what? Nonsensical statements like this drive me nuts.
@@f.kieranfinney457 I’m from the same town the Strolls are, it’s not nonsensical….Newey will not have a good time there. This won’t be Red bull, wait and
see… Stroll will not give Newey the freedom he needs.
He’s a business owner. Not in it to lose. There’s nothing different there from Toto et al. I know he’s a bastard. But there’s zero evidence his team isn’t behind him. That’s where your comment is nonsensical. All you know is rumor.
(I actually worked for Stroll late ‘80s indirectly. He was terrifying then too, and has done nothing but succeed since)
I would have liked Adrian to return to Williams, he's already rich so why not finish with a passion project and go where he loved in the past. But 100m is pretty much impossible to turn down, that's an insane number which not even drivers get paid these days. 25m i could see though.
So do we know that Newey isn't retiring outright instead?
Comparing Aston Martin to McDonald’s?Wtf hope Newey goes to Aston Martin and makes a dominant car 👍
Is money really the swaying factor? A return to Williams at this early stage of their rebirth would surely be a more attractive proposition.
Why would he want to go back to teams he has already been to? Not a chance he wants go to back to teams he has been with before.
If I was A Adrian Newey. Imagine bringing Ferrari or Mclaren a WDC & WCC after almost 2 decades. That'll be the biggest comeback of the century. I hate the idea of "money buys everything".
Couple of things not quite through this clip from the entire PW show:
Ain't announced re: Newey. This is the 4th time around for Ferrari trying to get Him. They should offer the World. After all, that's what's at stake.
Newey wouldn't go back to McLaren as the debris from RD still lingers. Nor Williams. Why would he go to Merc as they're favored to excel again for 2026 and beyond.
Just some thoughts...thank god there's 5 more days until FP1!
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I feel very bad peter when you say that adrian going to Aston Martin is a bad thing...Hamilton has enough success in great dominant cars and I dont understand why people are not happy with Alonso getting adrian ...Alonso has so many bad luck....and nobody is as motivated at this age as fernando..I am very very happy if Adrian goes to AMR and alonso starts winning.
It is really sad state of these F1 commentators like peter and others that they are not happy seeing Alonso finally getting a good car .
Alonzo won’t be benefiting very likely. It’ll be a miracle if the 26 car is a full Newey design and the Honda PU is fully up to snuff.
And whos going to drive the Newey car, Alonso is going to be 45 and who knows what his mind-state and skill is going to be then, surely Lance will not do it justice as well is he going to be there in '26. Two Big question marks. So i am with you on this Peter
This isn’t about 2026. This is about 2028.
@@f.kieranfinney457 ???
I wish he'd go to Audi and give Nico a winning car! 😊
I don't think it's solely money - I think being able to shape the technical department is a huge drawcard. Aston is the only team that will realistically give him so much freedom. Merc and Ferrari are too much about the team and McLaren are in a sweet spot already. I'd still love to see Adrian and Williams 🤞
If Lance Stroll wins a championship then that’s really gonna diminish Max’s and his domination.
😂😂😂 Max living rent free in your head 😂😂😂
interesting Aston =McDonalds, McLearen=Distrafor.