PART2-ua-cam.com/users/shortsb175IHq41so?feature=share TAKE NOTE: The ONLY GROUP i'm not sure with is ENHYPEN because i only based that on yeoun's analysis. Heeseung's sense support is present occasionally. Jay's sense of support is limited and Jungwon also limited but more support on his lower register. Pls Kindly correct me, THANK YOU✨
@@user-hx7fn1pg3i jimin is the opposite of support. He strains a lot. Maybe during debut, but he regressed a lot, like a lot. Now, maybe he's close to Jhope in terms os vocal
Right? I think it's just sehun who can't support. And it's not because he can't, he just not really confidence. But kai and yixing? Kai slay his encore with stabil voice. His voice sounds like unreal. Ppl can't see if he's lip sync or not.
@@Israhellgonnagetdestroyedsoonyes, kai has so many improvements in his vocal. And I'm pretty sure Lay have vocal support too, it's because not many people watch his performances in china or at least try to watch MVs by EXO-M. Yixing tried to cover Luhan part with Chen, since Luhan left SM. Yeah, sometimes people sleep with Lay's talents😂
@@levinadillap4358Yapp, true! And I think both of them now have the support too, since they’re always taking vocal lessons until now, we can hear now they’re already upgrading a lot too..
@@typh2630 Where does I say that he can't be a main vocalist? Hwanhee from FTTS and Yoon from Winner are baritones with main vocal position. I just want to say that he can't sing as high as Chen, D.O. and Baekhyun.
@@tuipaopao Umm Hwanhee and Yoon are not baritones they're tenors. We all know Hwanhee sings above G#4 in most of the songs which is absolutely impossible for a baritone of his level. Also Yoon sounds great in his lower range but he seems to be airy as compared to real baritones. For now John park is the only baritone in kpop rest are lower tenors
@@dumbdumb1853Hmmm. That might explain why they can sing high note above F4 easily. How about Kim Dong Ryul? I listened to his song and it's quite low. Is he a baritone?
EXO are Vocal Kings!!! This is why, no matter how bad SM treats them they can still manage to stay on top. I'm so glad I came to know this amazing group. They are by far one of the best, if not the best, 3rd gen male kpop group to me and many others. I hope they continue to give us more amazing songs and performances for many many years to come. They are so much more than a flavor of the moment. EXO-l for life!!!!!
So SM basically killing it with vocal legends. 6/8-SNSD 6/9-EXO 3/5-Red velvet 4/4-Aespa TVXQ ans Suju, the vocal legends again. Idk about NCT. Mention NCT plz.
Added 7/9 SNSD (+Jessica) 4/5 or 3/4 SHINee (You missed SHINee, they're from SM, too) 2/5 or 3/5 F(x) (idk w/ Amber she can support or not, but actually Luna & Krystal can)
Not entirely sure but I think NCT 127 - 6/9 (+Mark with limited support) NCT Dream - 3/7 (+Mark with limited support) WayV - 3/7 Sungchan has also shown some sense of support but he lacks material
EXO are kings of vocals all of them where they harmonize together is just amazing they are the Korean Boys to Men and NSYNC and Backstreet Boys pure vocals straight up Talent
EXO proving themselves as the best vocals kpop boy group. Even though they've been in the industry for 10 years, they never stop attend a vocals lesson. Even chanyeol and sehun as main rapper always train their vocals improvement. Baekhyun as one of the best vocalist in kpop never missed his vocal lesson even during his military service
EXO IS KNOWN AS VOCAL KINGS FOR A REASON✨️💫 But I'm just wondering if most of tbe ppl in comment section known anything about vocals and techniques before saying someone's name and call them better???
@@kitty_12368 oh so u're part of those people. Listen, this is public comment section. Just like they can say whatever they want, we can reply to their comments however we want to. Don't be hypocritical 😊
@@kitty_12368 well I'm an arny not an exol nor a multi tbh and i have every reason to comment my opinion maybe u just need to scroll if u don't have same as mine, but exo was one of the best in vocal is not an opinion either but true
If you consider Jay to be supporting, then you should also include I.N and Lee Know for stray Kids who are around the same level if not better. Also, Yeonjun supports, good lower register, makes TXT 2/5.
I think a lot of y'all are mixing up what it means to "have vocal support" and what it means to "be a good singer". You can have a terrific voice or vocal range and have poor support and breath control. It's not all that makes up a singer but it certainly makes a difference wether or not you have vocal support and resilience.
han doesn’t support and neither does bang chan i.n and lee know shallowly support update: han can actually support and is almost at the level of seungmin, bang chan can’t
Yea I.N literally is part of Vocalracha for a reason😭also every time I here Hans part in there cover of ‘Pray to be your man’ I literally get chills~🤧 (but I understand what this video was trying to say♥️honestly tho tbh SKZ is OT8🤌)
The crossed out in EXO are their main dancers and I'm proud bcoz those guys can sing. Lay can reach high notes I can't even imagine (like how he did in The Flower of May). Sehun has a nice tone and it surprises me how he sounded so good in The Eve (please give him more lines sm😭). Kai has honey vocals and I'm melting with his executions (Blue is my personal favorite). Too much more to say. I'll stop here now before I'll say something more (like how proud I am of Chanyeol 😭)
Even tho I don't follow EXO and an ultimate ARMY, I also know EXO is the best among Bgs when it comes to vocals. I respect EXO but I hate TOXIC EXO-LS and TOXIC ARMYS, they are a total different breed. 🤣💀
its the way people dont pay attention to the video for me. Op clearly explained what vocal support means and people still be commenting some of the vocalists who dont support at all and calling them vocal gods. Like please learn what vocal support means before commenting ffs. Also no vocal support doesn't mean that they're the worst vocalists.
@@leonardoenrico2152 to have some sense of support, you need to be atleast a weak vocalist (E tier), woozi is an underdeveloped vocalist (F+), he definitely can improve cause there’s tons of vocalists who were underdeveloped but then improved to weak or low/mid/high w-a (ex : twice chaeyoung, itzy yeji, lesserafim chaewon, blackpink jennie, stayc sieun yoon and isa, etc) i think if he trains more in vocals (which i won’t expect since he’s under hybe and hybe doesn’t seem to care abt their artists skills) and pledis let’s him sing in his vocal range, he could easily improve to weak.
the ppl in the comments are so dumb lmao, just bcs they are vocalist doesn't mean they have support, but that doesn't mean they can't sing. having one support in a group already enough. all of them can sing but not all of them can support go learn abt it more don't just talk
Well it comes back to their discography whether the members need support or not. Imagine having mamamoo's and exo's discography but the members barely have support. That's definitely not healthy.
EXO's Lay has improved throughout the years especially if you watch his. Live performances from the recent grandline 2 concert. His most recent release nothing with me showed this perfectly
@@XSuLBcCyDKSe I'm 100% sure yeah. His support is still very shallow tbh. I mean not even Junmyeon support well with his singing. & he's still arguably the 4th best vocalist in EXO. So that says smthing.
Yall gotta agree exo actually has one of the bestest vocal group in kpop like have been listening their songs from their debut to now , gotta agree their vocals are not changed infact it is enhanced and funfact chanyeol is the rapper of the group yet!!!! My man always vocal, writing, producing, dancing like an ace he is👑......sm actually has the best vocals gotta agree and exo is just💥✨☠️💜
EXO Vocal kings indeed. I'm glad that I stan them. They're FOREVER KINGS👑 (Before y'all come at me, let me say that every KPOP group shines in their own way.)
Support is one of the basics of vocal training so this means that some groups might have less training om vocals. maybe that's the reason why most of these idols are so good in dancing, that's their focus. Well I hope companies try to re-evaluate their training process.
Well…I read somewhere that KPOP vocal training consists of learning the vocal style that fits the group’s concept or what the producers are aiming for (eg nasal cutesy style) and/or singing guides of older KPOP songs (like sing like how the original singer sang like) and/or the “stable” training of singing and dancing at the same time. Of course that’s not going to teach them the established set of foundations needed as a vocalist. Maybe teach them have a good ear (like sing like what it’s supposed to sound like and not just pitch), sure, but in terms of what it is needed (eg breath support) and also musicality/musicianship, not really lmao.
@@KittyTsundere yikes that kind of training would limit their capabilities and might ruin their voice in the long run. I think SM got a good training somehow since they have great amount of vocalists who got a healthy voice even after decades in the industry.
@@jvc.4655 Well a good amount of SM main vocalists (Baekhyun, Chen, Wendy, Kyuhyun) have already had established foundations before joining SM (I think they were recruited into SM because of their vocal skill), but to be fair, many of them improved during their time in SM (eg Baekhyun, Chen), and SM is pretty damn consistent in debuting skilled main vocalists (and skilled lead and even skilled sub vocalists for female groups). I would say SM is the most consistent company in debuting top or skilled vocalists followed by RBW and Starship.
Even the main rapper in Exo, Chanyeol has vocal support while other groups' vocal line members don't have vocal supports. My Exo are really the Vocal King. The Emperor of Kpop, EXO.
for ateez, I would add san, their lead vocalist and second best vocalist after jongho. he actually talked about this before and showed it in a bts video of their concert. there are some ateez songs that also prove it or ateez videos where he freely sings. unfortunately his vocals are underrated he’s more known with his performance and dance but his vocals techniques are unmatched honestly
Yeah-I honestly want to know who rates the vocalists and when the last time they rated them was-and what they used to make the rating. I mean for Ateez all of their vocals have improved since debut.
Still haven't shown any sings of support. You can't call yourself a vocalist if you cant support, vocals aren't subjective tbh you may like his voice but that doesn't mean he can sing well... Even Jongho falls into the category of average 👍
@@atinyy.1117 I like Jongho alot tbh but it's just true. My boy is very strained, he sings most of the time out of his range. He has nice placements but has trouble supporting up to G#4, and sounds tense most of the time as well. He hasn't shown any kind of support in his head voice either and his lows aren't really that impressive. Overall he falls into the average category, but he's still one of the best male vocalists of 4th gen. He isn't bad at all, he's just not that good either. If you want a more objective rating like the tiers, he would be placed as a C tier vocalist. Vocalists like Jihyo, Winter, Seulgi and Seoho are also in that tier. 👍👍
Since NCT isn't here, lemme add them. In NCT, out of 23 members - half or at least almost half of them have vocal support. The Vocalists: Taeil, Kun, Doyoung, Ten, Jaehyun, Jungwoo, Xiaojun, Renjun, Haechan and Chenle. As can be seen on their recording behind-the-scenes, during "Sticker" - TAEIL was singing in a different note that is far from his usual ones. His voice came from the lower part of his body, his stomach. Everyone has vocal support, Haechan also can do the same thing. He can sing falsetto and low register notes while using different parts of his body. He can also use his muscles as the main support for his voice. I forgot Yuta, he can use his lower body, his muscles and even his chest and stomach while singing because he tends to also have higher notes than his supported range. Even NCT's rappers have vocal support tho I'm not sure who are they, but Mark and Taeyong definitely can.
Half of them?? Lmao. Kun, Ten, Renjun & Chenle don't support that well. They're quite shallow, most of them are. Haechan & Jungwoo are a little bit better but that's it. Only Taeil, Doyoung & Jaehyun that actually has solid support. Idk what kind of definition of vocal support u're using, but it's quite vague & a bit misleading. Not all of them can support their voices.
Btw for Ateez it should be: Jongho✅ San ✅ Seonghwa ✅ Yunho ✅ Wooyoung ❌ Yeosang ❌ Mingi ❌ Hongjoong❌ Ateez has six vocalists btw which include not only Jongho, but San, Seonghwa, Yeosang, Wooyoung, and Yunho. I know what vocal support is so notice how I didn’t check off all the vocalists, because I do know that some of the vocalists do lack support. However you have to be not an Atiny to not know that San and Seonghwa carry heavy on the vocals parts and have strong support when they sing while also doing some of the hardest choreo in their performances. San and Seonghwa usually are very stable and have been the 2nd vocalists after Jongho that can sustain and support long notes or verses. If you listen to their slower ballad songs or some of their performances covers where Seonghwa and San are able to shine vocally more you’ll know this. Of course Jongho has the best support in the group, but it seems like the OP who made this video just casually looked over groups who they don’t stan and only marked off the main vocalists as the only ones that have support and I find that hilarious. Btw exo are vocal kings, but putting chanyeol as one of the members that has support seems heavily biased to me and the only member in enhypen that has support is probably Heesung. Enhypen are very pitchy a lot of the times for some of their live performances and I hate to say it but they definitely aren’t known for their stable and supportive vocals.
@@kimdaniel2601 sorry I forgot about Yunho. You are right. He is like one of the most stable vocalists in Kpop right now. I think at first thought I just forgot to add him cause San and Seonghwa tend to be the lead vocalists and seem to have a bigger and more supported vocal range than Yunho. There is a difference between being stable and having vocal support. And while Yunho might be even a more stable vocalist than the other two members I previously mentioned, I’m not sure on support. Support and stability are two different things. Support isn't only about breathing. It's a condition that you find if you manage to control your airflow and balance including better tone production and the ability to sing extended phrases and sustain notes for longer, hence I’ve seen the more vocal support and longer notes demonstrated from San and Seonghwa. But I’ll add Yunho now as he is very good too. I guess I just haven’t seen all of his potential yet and he doesn’t get many chances to sing higher notes or sing longer phrases like some of the other members.
@@thatoneATINYinthecomments other thing about Yunho-he was a vocal major at SOPA. I simply can’t imagine a vocal major at an arts school not being taught how to support. And if a vocal major can’t support how do they pass their vocal classes? Also-Yunho has a lot of lines in their Immortal Songs covers-especially It’s Raining and Right Now. He also sings in his lower register in their Fantastic Baby/Nillili Mambo cover. I think he’s a little throaty in that but he’s singing near the bottom of his range.
@@isawanactualcicada1449Lmaoo Han can't support but he supports every other day... bffr. You really make I.N support but not Han. Honestly do y'all actually listen to Han singing or?? I'm curious
@@chngsans What??????? Chen the great vocalist here and the best 3rd gen vocalist is not an A so how u want Seungmin, Yedam, Jongho and Taehyun to be A?? Sorry but these tiers are not opinions they are based on their support and their support is not that solid to be A vocalists, it's not even solid to be C+ lmaoo
Agreed with IN and seungmin- Not entirely sure abt Han tho- ^i take that back. Han can support. But I don’t think BangcHan is even close- as much as I love him he’s inconsistent 😭
The fact is they rely on Seungmin AND Han to hit and sustain high notes.. I still go back to their kingdom performance of I’ll be your man every now and then. Also if I remember correctly, during debut, it was Han so sang the high note of Hellevator as Woojin refused that part.
Junkyu had support during ygtb but soon his stylistic choices made him lose his support and it seems like he's forgot how to do it. Junghwan seems close to supporting next to main vocals and jihoon
@@dumbdumb1853 junkyu got less line in there album. His singing line is even better by asahi, junghwan. He never got a chance to showcase his vocal as he did in mixnine and ygtb. Let's wait for his upcoming performance
@@Sanniehae Yep he got less lines which is good which means they're letting him rest. Maybe he should rest until he gets back to his old technique. Also now he's below Junghwan in Vocals cuz he regressed but if he gets back to his old technique he'll be good as pre debut
@@dumbdumb1853 no bro Or sis, his line are not good enough for lead vocalist and junkyu is not below junghwan. He support back then means he can support now, ygtb was all live performance but treasure don't have much live performance except concert.
For your information, in ateez not only jongho but seonghwa also have vocal support and in skz, not only seungmin but also Han and bang chan have vocal support. 'For your kind information'
@@Rexille_Creative who told you bang chan can't support? And no IN and changbin can't support though changbin proved his great vocals in masked singer show. But for IN, his voice strains a lot so he doesn't get chance to show support.
@@mybiasduality1655 A trick in kingdom is not the entire vocal career of I.N, currently he has support and worked hard to improve the stability of him live, so...
exo are vocal kings, and if ydk treasure has 12 amazing vocals, even their rapper sings well, and some non fans even thought the rappers are also vocalist, treasure is 4th gen strongest vocal line, they sing well specially in live, except the vocal trinity, jihoon and hyunhayo sings stable, mashi, doyoung, jaehyuk, junghwan, asahi also sings well, they can do support well, And also exo and treasure are my 12/12 i love them so much it's like exo is the father group and treasure is the son
EXO ARE LITERALLY PROVEN TO HAVE THE BEST VOCAL TECHNIQUE AMONG ALL GROUPS BY A PROFESSIONAL VOCAL COACH... AND I AM NOT SURPRISE TO SEE THAT THE MEMBER THAT CAN SUPPORT ARE MAJORITY.... EXO HITS DIFFERENT WHEN SINGING... AND ALSO SM GROUPS ARE KILLING THIS SHORTS.... LITERALLY EVERYWHERE SM GROUPS WILL BE ON TOP IF ITS VOCAL...
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TAKE NOTE: The ONLY GROUP i'm not sure with is ENHYPEN because i only based that on yeoun's analysis. Heeseung's sense support is present occasionally. Jay's sense of support is limited and Jungwon also limited but more support on his lower register. Pls Kindly correct me, THANK YOU✨
Actually in bts jimin can also vocal support so can jin so please add them
@@user-hx7fn1pg3i no they can't support sorry
@@user-hx7fn1pg3i jimin is the opposite of support. He strains a lot. Maybe during debut, but he regressed a lot, like a lot. Now, maybe he's close to Jhope in terms os vocal
@@user-hx7fn1pg3i Lmfaoo
@@user-hx7fn1pg3i They don't support.
The thing is all of EXO still takes Vocal lessons even as a 10 yr old group I'm proud that they want to preserve their voices and vocal cords
Right? I think it's just sehun who can't support. And it's not because he can't, he just not really confidence. But kai and yixing? Kai slay his encore with stabil voice. His voice sounds like unreal. Ppl can't see if he's lip sync or not.
@@Israhellgonnagetdestroyedsooni definitely agree with your comment. I do believe Sehun is stepping up in their latest releases.
@@Israhellgonnagetdestroyedsoonyes, kai has so many improvements in his vocal. And I'm pretty sure Lay have vocal support too, it's because not many people watch his performances in china or at least try to watch MVs by EXO-M. Yixing tried to cover Luhan part with Chen, since Luhan left SM.
Yeah, sometimes people sleep with Lay's talents😂
@levinadillap4358 soo true, that man can sing!
@@levinadillap4358Yapp, true!
And I think both of them now have the support too, since they’re always taking vocal lessons until now, we can hear now they’re already upgrading a lot too..
EXO
That's why they are vocal king
Facts
Yess
Thrue
For real I’m not even a EXO L or anything but they got vocals there no denying it especially that boy baekhyun ❗️
It's just that 4th gen is known for dance, not vocals.
Even the rapper in EXO is a capable to become a main vocal ✨
Chanyeol is a baritone, that means he can’t sing as high as other members (tenor). He can still nail the low range though.
@@tuipaopao main vocal isn’t all about high notes, sure it helps to be able to hit higher but that’s not all it means.
@@typh2630 Where does I say that he can't be a main vocalist? Hwanhee from FTTS and Yoon from Winner are baritones with main vocal position. I just want to say that he can't sing as high as Chen, D.O. and Baekhyun.
@@tuipaopao Umm Hwanhee and Yoon are not baritones they're tenors. We all know Hwanhee sings above G#4 in most of the songs which is absolutely impossible for a baritone of his level. Also Yoon sounds great in his lower range but he seems to be airy as compared to real baritones. For now John park is the only baritone in kpop rest are lower tenors
@@dumbdumb1853Hmmm. That might explain why they can sing high note above F4 easily. How about Kim Dong Ryul? I listened to his song and it's quite low. Is he a baritone?
EXO are Vocal Kings!!! This is why, no matter how bad SM treats them they can still manage to stay on top. I'm so glad I came to know this amazing group. They are by far one of the best, if not the best, 3rd gen male kpop group to me and many others. I hope they continue to give us more amazing songs and performances for many many years to come. They are so much more than a flavor of the moment. EXO-l for life!!!!!
So SM basically killing it with vocal legends.
6/8-SNSD
6/9-EXO
3/5-Red velvet
4/4-Aespa
TVXQ ans Suju, the vocal legends again.
Idk about NCT. Mention NCT plz.
Added
7/9 SNSD (+Jessica)
4/5 or 3/4 SHINee (You missed SHINee, they're from SM, too)
2/5 or 3/5 F(x) (idk w/ Amber she can support or not, but actually Luna & Krystal can)
@@AnaNanda29 of course Luna can haha
She is actually best female vocalist in 2nd generation!!
My thought will be..
NCT 127 - 6/9
NCT Dream - 5/7
WayV - 4/7
+
Sungchan
NCT is abit too much to calculate 😅😂
Not entirely sure but I think
NCT 127 - 6/9 (+Mark with limited support)
NCT Dream - 3/7 (+Mark with limited support)
WayV - 3/7
Sungchan has also shown some sense of support but he lacks material
EXO are kings of vocals all of them where they harmonize together is just amazing they are the Korean Boys to Men and NSYNC and Backstreet Boys pure vocals straight up Talent
I made ur comments 400😊
Exo the vocal kings🤴
Taehyun, Jongho, and Seungmin are literally the vocal carriers of their groups
4th gen main vocalists imo!
what is the txt and treasure songs in the video
@@mjgoat2366 GBGB by TXT, Jikjin by Treasure
@@seungslove thanks
jongho’s for sure insane and carries the group but the other members aren’t bad at all either
EXO are Vocal Kings so ofc
Seeing no body talk about Enhypen's vocals shows how underrated their talents are...
Exactly that's my point
exactly
Is wrong only Heesung and Sunoo can support
@@johan_08 go listen to their recent albums and also listen to their upcoming album trailer
@@johan_08 Jungwon and Jay too
Go search!
I stan talents, I stan vocals, I stan EXO.
Me 2
Me too
You Stan good taste
me too
Me 2
EXO proving themselves as the best vocals kpop boy group. Even though they've been in the industry for 10 years, they never stop attend a vocals lesson. Even chanyeol and sehun as main rapper always train their vocals improvement. Baekhyun as one of the best vocalist in kpop never missed his vocal lesson even during his military service
Other groups' vocal doesn't have support
meanwhile Chanyoel the main rapper of exo : 🤴
No but seriously i was shOOKETH
Lmao alot of their “Main Rapper” can’t even sing so they took the position but not my boy LOEY
😂🤣
EXO vocals are on next level😎
EXO IS KNOWN AS VOCAL KINGS FOR A REASON✨️💫
But I'm just wondering if most of tbe ppl in comment section known anything about vocals and techniques before saying someone's name and call them better???
I think u should focus on only exo
Let others fandoms do what they want🙂
@@kitty_12368 oh so u're part of those people. Listen, this is public comment section. Just like they can say whatever they want, we can reply to their comments however we want to. Don't be hypocritical 😊
@@kitty_12368 well I'm an arny not an exol nor a multi tbh and i have every reason to comment my opinion maybe u just need to scroll if u don't have same as mine, but exo was one of the best in vocal is not an opinion either but true
@@resurgingflame ok
exo’s vocal never disappointed😍🥹🤘🏻
There's a reason why EXO are called vocal kings
And, Yedam is a treasure of kpop industry!
But he left the group
EXO my vocal kings even the rappers can outsing most of the kpop main vocalists
sm really makes the best vocal groups i swear!
True
Yes
Well trained, at least. 😄
Exo vocal king 👑 love from Pakistan
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Me too from Karachi ❤❤
Heeyyyyy new Pakistani exol here❤❤❤
Hello
If you consider Jay to be supporting, then you should also include I.N and Lee Know for stray Kids who are around the same level if not better. Also, Yeonjun supports, good lower register, makes TXT 2/5.
Hans a good one
@@i.nismydinnerstraykids812m5 Han doesn't support. His high notes are veeeeery strained
I agree. At least I.N should be here
@@tfrancesz But what about the rest of his range though (not just high notes)?
@@KittyTsundere the rest of his range is relaxed but not supported
This is why EXO are the called the VOCAL KINGS.
I knew that exo wiil have more and lay and kai also very good at vocal
Yes they are are and so is SEHUN
I doubt chanyeol vocal goes flat sometimes. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@@Sanniehae you are wrong.
@@Sanniehae he's not always flat. But majority of time he's more throaty
Yess
That’s why Seungmin is a king but people don’t appreciate him :( yall pls support him!
woah exo and ENHYPEN ARE SO TALENTED!! enhypen hasnt even been trained for long!!!! very proud of them and exo!
Damn, not surprised with Chanyeol of EXO
That man is leading a musical performance on Military
That's why EXO is called as VOCAL KINGS
I think a lot of y'all are mixing up what it means to "have vocal support" and what it means to "be a good singer". You can have a terrific voice or vocal range and have poor support and breath control. It's not all that makes up a singer but it certainly makes a difference wether or not you have vocal support and resilience.
Yup👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
exactly
Stray kids Bangchan And Han even I.N support in vocals
Only I.N is fairly relaxed
I agree
Me too, I was thinking of Han
han doesn’t support and neither does bang chan
i.n and lee know shallowly support
update: han can actually support and is almost at the level of seungmin, bang chan can’t
Yea I.N literally is part of Vocalracha for a reason😭also every time I here Hans part in there cover of ‘Pray to be your man’ I literally get chills~🤧
(but I understand what this video was trying to say♥️honestly tho tbh SKZ is OT8🤌)
The crossed out in EXO are their main dancers and I'm proud bcoz those guys can sing. Lay can reach high notes I can't even imagine (like how he did in The Flower of May). Sehun has a nice tone and it surprises me how he sounded so good in The Eve (please give him more lines sm😭). Kai has honey vocals and I'm melting with his executions (Blue is my personal favorite).
Too much more to say. I'll stop here now before I'll say something more (like how proud I am of Chanyeol 😭)
I'm glad an army mention EXO in his video thanks ...and yess that's why EXO is vocal King ❤️🔥
Ikr; why can't we all be friends
@@Rjbunnie_ Idk both fandoms are fight like a dog and cat lol...
I like BTS too but some reason I can't follow them 😔
@@iAmKyungSoo_BabeGirlIt's okay.I understand you..Borahae😘💜
They don't exist.
That's how Content creators think while making a video. It's so rare to see them in a video
Even tho I don't follow EXO and an ultimate ARMY, I also know EXO is the best among Bgs when it comes to vocals. I respect EXO but I hate TOXIC EXO-LS and TOXIC ARMYS, they are a total different breed. 🤣💀
EXO vocal supremacy 💅 ✨
no one can replace exo ....past present future exo's vocals always on Top🔥👑
its the way people dont pay attention to the video for me. Op clearly explained what vocal support means and people still be commenting some of the vocalists who dont support at all and calling them vocal gods. Like please learn what vocal support means before commenting ffs. Also no vocal support doesn't mean that they're the worst vocalists.
It’s amazing. All they do is prove that they no idea what they’re talking about.
A sane comment on a kpop short…
As expected, SM really train their vocalists well 👍🏻 Could you also do one about NCT, Shinee, and Seventeen? 😆
(✅ = has support range
❌ = no support
above average - B
average - C
low/mid/high w/a - D
weak - E
underdeveloped - F+
nonvocalist - F/F-)
seventeen it’s 4/13
seungcheol ❌ - nonvocalist
jeonghan ❌ - underdeveloped
joshua ❌ - underdeveloped
jun ❌ - nonvocalist
hoshi ✅ - weak
wonwoo ❌ - nonvocalist
woozi ✅ - weak
dk ✅ - average
mingyu ❌ - nonvocalist
minghao ❌ - nonvocalist
seungkwan ✅ - above average
vernon ❌ - nonvocalist
dino ❌ - underdeveloped
shinee it’s 4/5
onew ✅ - above average
jonghyun ✅ - above average
minho ❌ - underdeveloped
key ✅ - weak
taemin ✅ - above average
and in nct from what i know, it’s 13/23
taeil ✅ - above average
taeyong ❌ - non-vocalist
doyoung ✅ - above average
ten ✅ - weak
jaehyun ✅ - average
mark ✅ - weak
yuta ✅ - weak
winwin ❌ - nonvocalist
haechan ✅ - weak
renjun ✅ - weak
jeno ❌ - nonvocalist
jaemin ❌ - nonvocalist
chenle ✅ - weak
jisung ❌ - nonvocalist
johnny ❌ - nonvocalist
jungwoo ✅ - mid w-a
lucas ❌ - nonvocalist
kun ✅ - weak
xiaojun ✅ - average
hendery ❌ - nonvocalist
yangyang ❌ - nonvocalist
shotaro ❌ - nonvocalist
sungchan ✅ - weak
@@prankdaniel Wow, thanks!! ☺️ There are more NCT members who can support than I expected…SM really is incomparable when it comes to vocals 🫢
@@prankdaniel is Woozi doesn't has support?
@@prankdaniel i think sungchan can support i’m not sure
@@leonardoenrico2152 to have some sense of support, you need to be atleast a weak vocalist (E tier), woozi is an underdeveloped vocalist (F+), he definitely can improve cause there’s tons of vocalists who were underdeveloped but then improved to weak or low/mid/high w-a (ex : twice chaeyoung, itzy yeji, lesserafim chaewon, blackpink jennie, stayc sieun yoon and isa, etc) i think if he trains more in vocals (which i won’t expect since he’s under hybe and hybe doesn’t seem to care abt their artists skills) and pledis let’s him sing in his vocal range, he could easily improve to weak.
Exo stands for pure vocal
EXO vocals are high up in the sky
Vocal kings indeed 👑👑👑
Reason why EXO is called vocal kings 😌😇😇
the ppl in the comments are so dumb lmao, just bcs they are vocalist doesn't mean they have support, but that doesn't mean they can't sing. having one support in a group already enough. all of them can sing but not all of them can support go learn abt it more don't just talk
I'm learning about singing all my life, but obviously bang chan can did that lol
@@lilac7768 he's one of the top vocalists in skz , my vocal coach placed him second in ranking
@@doubleslit3913 like he's one of the kpop singer who exactly knew how to use his own voice
Well it comes back to their discography whether the members need support or not. Imagine having mamamoo's and exo's discography but the members barely have support. That's definitely not healthy.
Hi.. can u explain to me, wht vocal support means? I still cant understand it😭
TREASURE and EXO vocal kings
There can only be one king. That is EXO.
Vocal king EXO❤️
Vocal king exoo💕💕
EXO👑
And some people still deny that EXO is a vocal powerhouse
That's why EXO is called vocal kings😎
SUJU vocal line is Stronger that Exo Kyuhyun>Ryeowook> Chen>D.O> Baekhyun>Yesung>Chanyeol
@@xxfogartinixxkyuhyun, ryeowook and yesung are all main vocals?
@@myheartwillgowonandon5467yep
@@xxfogartinixxI'm an ELF before an EXO-L but Wookie voice too whiney for me. Kyuhyun and Yesung definitely amazing
@@DenallieDNa thxx 😊
EXO's Lay has improved throughout the years especially if you watch his. Live performances from the recent grandline 2 concert. His most recent release nothing with me showed this perfectly
His support is still very shallow. There are a lot of tension.
@@resurgingflamehe does support though.
@@XSuLBcCyDKSe I doubt that tbh
@@resurgingflame are you sure? Are you speaking from his most recent materials? I saw somewhere that he's low weak tier.
@@XSuLBcCyDKSe I'm 100% sure yeah. His support is still very shallow tbh.
I mean not even Junmyeon support well with his singing. & he's still arguably the 4th best vocalist in EXO. So that says smthing.
Yall gotta agree exo actually has one of the bestest vocal group in kpop like have been listening their songs from their debut to now , gotta agree their vocals are not changed infact it is enhanced and funfact chanyeol is the rapper of the group yet!!!! My man always vocal, writing, producing, dancing like an ace he is👑......sm actually has the best vocals gotta agree and exo is just💥✨☠️💜
EXO
Vocal kings indeed. I'm glad that I stan them. They're FOREVER KINGS👑
(Before y'all come at me, let me say that every KPOP group shines in their own way.)
Support is one of the basics of vocal training so this means that some groups might have less training om vocals. maybe that's the reason why most of these idols are so good in dancing, that's their focus. Well I hope companies try to re-evaluate their training process.
Well…I read somewhere that KPOP vocal training consists of learning the vocal style that fits the group’s concept or what the producers are aiming for (eg nasal cutesy style) and/or singing guides of older KPOP songs (like sing like how the original singer sang like) and/or the “stable” training of singing and dancing at the same time. Of course that’s not going to teach them the established set of foundations needed as a vocalist. Maybe teach them have a good ear (like sing like what it’s supposed to sound like and not just pitch), sure, but in terms of what it is needed (eg breath support) and also musicality/musicianship, not really lmao.
@@KittyTsundere yikes that kind of training would limit their capabilities and might ruin their voice in the long run. I think SM got a good training somehow since they have great amount of vocalists who got a healthy voice even after decades in the industry.
@@jvc.4655 Well a good amount of SM main vocalists (Baekhyun, Chen, Wendy, Kyuhyun) have already had established foundations before joining SM (I think they were recruited into SM because of their vocal skill), but to be fair, many of them improved during their time in SM (eg Baekhyun, Chen), and SM is pretty damn consistent in debuting skilled main vocalists (and skilled lead and even skilled sub vocalists for female groups). I would say SM is the most consistent company in debuting top or skilled vocalists followed by RBW and Starship.
It's also because (in skz for example) there's a lot if rapers
SM should treat EXO well...i kind of miss them actually
Me too 😭
Even the main rapper in Exo, Chanyeol has vocal support while other groups' vocal line members don't have vocal supports. My Exo are really the Vocal King.
The Emperor of Kpop, EXO.
the fact is exo main rapper is being one of them, damn!
Exo, The vocal Kings😌😌😌
Stray Kids Han and Changbin can be vocals as well, specially Han, the All Rounder king of 4th gen
exo is really a diff breed
Exo vocal kings periodt
Seungmin in the building!!!!!
Seungmin is the best
for ateez, I would add san, their lead vocalist and second best vocalist after jongho. he actually talked about this before and showed it in a bts video of their concert. there are some ateez songs that also prove it or ateez videos where he freely sings. unfortunately his vocals are underrated he’s more known with his performance and dance but his vocals techniques are unmatched honestly
Yeah-I honestly want to know who rates the vocalists and when the last time they rated them was-and what they used to make the rating. I mean for Ateez all of their vocals have improved since debut.
Still haven't shown any sings of support. You can't call yourself a vocalist if you cant support, vocals aren't subjective tbh you may like his voice but that doesn't mean he can sing well... Even Jongho falls into the category of average 👍
@@aenning wait rlly-?!
@@aenning "jongho's vocals are average"
This is how it looks when people live under a rock. :)
@@atinyy.1117 I like Jongho alot tbh but it's just true. My boy is very strained, he sings most of the time out of his range. He has nice placements but has trouble supporting up to G#4, and sounds tense most of the time as well. He hasn't shown any kind of support in his head voice either and his lows aren't really that impressive. Overall he falls into the average category, but he's still one of the best male vocalists of 4th gen. He isn't bad at all, he's just not that good either. If you want a more objective rating like the tiers, he would be placed as a C tier vocalist. Vocalists like Jihyo, Winter, Seulgi and Seoho are also in that tier. 👍👍
Here is finally one video what really knows about ENHYPEN's vocal capability.. They’re really so good.. 4th gen stable vocal kings
Exo and nct kings of vocals
no exo kings nct prince hhhhh
I suppose to say that: exo-kings, NCT-prince
Exo really said social distancing guyss😌
Having no support doesn’t mean they’re bad at singing, so don’t hate on the creator but or anyone else
Since NCT isn't here, lemme add them.
In NCT, out of 23 members - half or at least almost half of them have vocal support.
The Vocalists: Taeil, Kun, Doyoung, Ten, Jaehyun, Jungwoo, Xiaojun, Renjun, Haechan and Chenle.
As can be seen on their recording behind-the-scenes, during "Sticker" - TAEIL was singing in a different note that is far from his usual ones. His voice came from the lower part of his body, his stomach.
Everyone has vocal support, Haechan also can do the same thing. He can sing falsetto and low register notes while using different parts of his body. He can also use his muscles as the main support for his voice.
I forgot Yuta, he can use his lower body, his muscles and even his chest and stomach while singing because he tends to also have higher notes than his supported range.
Even NCT's rappers have vocal support tho I'm not sure who are they, but Mark and Taeyong definitely can.
Half of them?? Lmao. Kun, Ten, Renjun & Chenle don't support that well. They're quite shallow, most of them are. Haechan & Jungwoo are a little bit better but that's it. Only Taeil, Doyoung & Jaehyun that actually has solid support.
Idk what kind of definition of vocal support u're using, but it's quite vague & a bit misleading. Not all of them can support their voices.
@@resurgingflame Xiaojun supports as well, but yeah, the rest of the vocal line has shallow/weak to no vocal support.
Taeil, Doyoung and Xiaojun vocal kings frfr
I would argue that Yeonjun, Hueningkai, and Han have vocal support
EXO doing their vocal lessons from their thrown room. 🫅🏻
EXO has the strongest vocal line.
That's why EXO are Vocal King 👑👑👑
And Jongho vocal king of 4 Generation ♥️♥️
Exo vocal is so amazing ❤
Thats why EXO has the best vocal line in kpop. Kings for a reason.
belift needs to give enha more ballads omgg
Don't believe Belift
Agree!! I loved "Just a little bit" !!!
Btw for Ateez it should be:
Jongho✅
San ✅
Seonghwa ✅
Yunho ✅
Wooyoung ❌
Yeosang ❌
Mingi ❌
Hongjoong❌
Ateez has six vocalists btw which include not only Jongho, but San, Seonghwa, Yeosang, Wooyoung, and Yunho. I know what vocal support is so notice how I didn’t check off all the vocalists, because I do know that some of the vocalists do lack support. However you have to be not an Atiny to not know that San and Seonghwa carry heavy on the vocals parts and have strong support when they sing while also doing some of the hardest choreo in their performances. San and Seonghwa usually are very stable and have been the 2nd vocalists after Jongho that can sustain and support long notes or verses. If you listen to their slower ballad songs or some of their performances covers where Seonghwa and San are able to shine vocally more you’ll know this. Of course Jongho has the best support in the group, but it seems like the OP who made this video just casually looked over groups who they don’t stan and only marked off the main vocalists as the only ones that have support and I find that hilarious. Btw exo are vocal kings, but putting chanyeol as one of the members that has support seems heavily biased to me and the only member in enhypen that has support is probably Heesung. Enhypen are very pitchy a lot of the times for some of their live performances and I hate to say it but they definitely aren’t known for their stable and supportive vocals.
yunho is extremely stable what are u talking about 😭
yunho even can run and jump with his butt while he'is singing wdym
And he was hopping around their encore stage like a bunny singing on pitch. So please tell me how Yunho has no support.
@@kimdaniel2601 sorry I forgot about Yunho. You are right. He is like one of the most stable vocalists in Kpop right now. I think at first thought I just forgot to add him cause San and Seonghwa tend to be the lead vocalists and seem to have a bigger and more supported vocal range than Yunho. There is a difference between being stable and having vocal support. And while Yunho might be even a more stable vocalist than the other two members I previously mentioned, I’m not sure on support. Support and stability are two different things. Support isn't only about breathing. It's a condition that you find if you manage to control your airflow and balance including better tone production and the ability to sing extended phrases and sustain notes for longer, hence I’ve seen the more vocal support and longer notes demonstrated from San and Seonghwa. But I’ll add Yunho now as he is very good too. I guess I just haven’t seen all of his potential yet and he doesn’t get many chances to sing higher notes or sing longer phrases like some of the other members.
@@thatoneATINYinthecomments other thing about Yunho-he was a vocal major at SOPA. I simply can’t imagine a vocal major at an arts school not being taught how to support. And if a vocal major can’t support how do they pass their vocal classes?
Also-Yunho has a lot of lines in their Immortal Songs covers-especially It’s Raining and Right Now. He also sings in his lower register in their Fantastic Baby/Nillili Mambo cover. I think he’s a little throaty in that but he’s singing near the bottom of his range.
No one can deny how good Exo's vocal is
I just think EXO Lay checks this list too😶
Actually no. He's shallow & recently he's become even more stylistic.
Exo's rapper has support
Bruh literal kings✔️
EXO is the king of vocals in K-Pop.
This video should be updated. Han, I.N and - surprisingly - Changbin all support, with Han especially improving.
Not really. There is a difference between relaxed and supported. Only IN has shown some shallow support in his lower range
@@isawanactualcicada1449Lmaoo Han can't support but he supports every other day... bffr. You really make I.N support but not Han. Honestly do y'all actually listen to Han singing or?? I'm curious
Minho Chan n I.N in the corner * : 😭😭... i dont deny your opinion.. seungmin has a spcl voice 😚❤️
Kings of vocals EXO💙
EXO is vocals kings
If we rank them:
1. Chen (A-)
2. D.O (B+)
3. Baekhyun (B)
4. Jongho (C)
5. Yedam (D+)
6. Jungkook (D)
7. Seungmin/Taehyun (D)
8.Jeongwoo (D-)
9. Suho/V (E+/D-)
10. Jihoon (E)
11. Xiumin (E)
12. Chanyeol (E)
@@chngsans What??????? Chen the great vocalist here and the best 3rd gen vocalist is not an A so how u want Seungmin, Yedam, Jongho and Taehyun to be A?? Sorry but these tiers are not opinions they are based on their support and their support is not that solid to be A vocalists, it's not even solid to be C+ lmaoo
@@chngsans Teirs aren't opinion, it's a fact. Lol.
@@chngsans are u stupid?😭
Suho should be above Jk
@@chngsans Tiers are not about opinions I'm sorry. U can see them as your favourites but saying they are A is crazy!!
EXO are insane for vocals 🫶
Anyway EXO vocal kings!
EXO!! Vocal Kings
Stray Kids is 3/8 now
Seungmin ✔️
Han ✔️
IN ✔️
Bangchan ❌
Lee Know ❌
Changbin ❌
Hyunjin ❌
Felix ❌
And Bang Chan and Lee Know close to support
Changbin can support too
Not really.
Agreed with IN and seungmin-
Not entirely sure abt Han tho-
^i take that back. Han can support. But I don’t think BangcHan is even close- as much as I love him he’s inconsistent 😭
The fact is they rely on Seungmin AND Han to hit and sustain high notes.. I still go back to their kingdom performance of I’ll be your man every now and then. Also if I remember correctly, during debut, it was Han so sang the high note of Hellevator as Woojin refused that part.
@@aenning wat do u mean not really
Exo 💖👑
I watch treasure vocal analysis, so I think junkyu and junghwan have breath support, mashiho is nearer to support
Junkyu had support during ygtb but soon his stylistic choices made him lose his support and it seems like he's forgot how to do it. Junghwan seems close to supporting next to main vocals and jihoon
I actually agree
@@dumbdumb1853 junkyu got less line in there album. His singing line is even better by asahi, junghwan. He never got a chance to showcase his vocal as he did in mixnine and ygtb. Let's wait for his upcoming performance
@@Sanniehae Yep he got less lines which is good which means they're letting him rest. Maybe he should rest until he gets back to his old technique. Also now he's below Junghwan in Vocals cuz he regressed but if he gets back to his old technique he'll be good as pre debut
@@dumbdumb1853 no bro Or sis, his line are not good enough for lead vocalist and junkyu is not below junghwan. He support back then means he can support now, ygtb was all live performance but treasure don't have much live performance except concert.
EXO vocals indeed
Seungmin vocals just really different..and I like it sm cuz his vocals type is kinda rare tho
Finally one video that is really right about ENHYPEN.. Recognised & appreciated their Vocal
For your information, in ateez not only jongho but seonghwa also have vocal support and in skz, not only seungmin but also Han and bang chan have vocal support. 'For your kind information'
bangchan not support he's not consisten and too stylistic. only 4 vocal support han, in, changbin, seungmin
@@Rexille_Creative who told you bang chan can't support? And no IN and changbin can't support though changbin proved his great vocals in masked singer show. But for IN, his voice strains a lot so he doesn't get chance to show support.
@@tuhinadas8556 and who told you IN can't support?
I.N support
E3~D4/Eb4(E4)
@@Rexille_Creative IN vocal cracked few times singing lives
@@mybiasduality1655 A trick in kingdom is not the entire vocal career of I.N, currently
he has support and worked hard to improve the stability of him live, so...
exo are vocal kings, and if ydk treasure has 12 amazing vocals, even their rapper sings well, and some non fans even thought the rappers are also vocalist, treasure is 4th gen strongest vocal line, they sing well specially in live, except the vocal trinity, jihoon and hyunhayo sings stable, mashi, doyoung, jaehyuk, junghwan, asahi also sings well, they can do support well,
And also exo and treasure are my 12/12 i love them so much it's like exo is the father group and treasure is the son
My one and only kpop group I ever love EXO...the best quality👍❤️
ok we all know exo r kings, BUT ENHYPEN BE SLAYING TOO 🫶🫶🫶 I LOVE THEM SM
Guys please realise that they’re not being bias it’s just going by facts that doesn’t mean they doesn’t like them
yeah exactly and even if they can’t support doesn’t mean they’re bad singers
EXO ARE LITERALLY PROVEN TO HAVE THE BEST VOCAL TECHNIQUE AMONG ALL GROUPS BY A PROFESSIONAL VOCAL COACH... AND I AM NOT SURPRISE TO SEE THAT THE MEMBER THAT CAN SUPPORT ARE MAJORITY.... EXO HITS DIFFERENT WHEN SINGING...
AND ALSO SM GROUPS ARE KILLING THIS SHORTS.... LITERALLY EVERYWHERE SM GROUPS WILL BE ON TOP IF ITS VOCAL...
Taehyun's vocals are seriously so good. His range is quite high 😍
EXO kings of vocal ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I've definitely seen San and Yunho support, although it's not consistent yet
They both have improved a lot. I think Yunho is often under appreciated when it comes to vocals.
The support you're talking about is not support but relaxation support sounds different than relaxed
@@dumbdumb1853 Can you explain this further?
Don't forget about Seonghwa in Utopia
@@pepperthemini7868 and inception 💅
Enhypen gerçekten çok yetenekli bir grup