what would the justification have to do with it? sorry im just curious. the only techniques I was aware of was altering the actual memory of said events or the more common manipulation of control question.
@@damnation8794 the polygraph can only measure stress. It's prone to errors and false positives in nervous people. If you justify the lie for yourself, the stress is less. F.e. what actually counts as lying, stealing, being "late" or breaking something ?
Polygraphs are BS I took one a year ago and lied on pretty much every question he asked and he asked about 20 questions, in the end I passed with flying colors.
@Noah Shields Honestly I don't know cause I was nervous as hell but I tried my best to slow my breathing down and keep my muscle relaxed because they were measuring my pulse, breathing, and they had me sitting on a pad that detects when you clinch your muscles.
@@shad5236 Yeah I hear you, not sure I trust them after that. I shouldn't of passed that, maybe the guy gave me a pass....Maybe he liked me, idk. It really boils down to the individual. That's what's dangerous about the polygraph, not whether it's accurate or not but the fact that you have a person interpreting the data. If you rub them the wrong way their probably more inclined to interpret that data in a manner that fit's their perception of you.
the key is to show a huge reaction during the baseline negative period, and a modestly calm response during the baseline neutral periods. As long as that range is wide, anything kind of middling will be ignored.
The guy in this video at 3:50 got arrested by undercover agents asking to be educated about how to pass a polygraph, was charged with "witness tampering" and "mail fraud", and was sentenced to 2 years in prison.
Alex was asking Ed all about the possibility of beating the lie detector. What he SHOULD have asked was: Is it possible that a person might fail their lie detector test even when telling the truth? If not, why not?
About 2/3 of people fail even though they are telling the truth. It is not a lie detector, it's a breathing rate, heart rate, blood pressure and and skin conductivity detector. It *can* be triggered by lies, but it can also be triggered by the tone of the examiner, or by an active imagination. "think about the beach", okay, think about the exam room instead. It's not exactly peaceful, but also not the worst thing ever. "think about falling", okay, think about your child's death by falling. the key is to *way* overreact to the questions that indicate stress, and under-react to the ordinary. Then, anything that happens during the 'exam' is iin between, and you pass.
I was special forces and a OGA operator and I've been the box EVERY time. It's not hard at all. It's the same discipline as controlling your breathing.
You can beat the damned thing. Humans are flawed. This machine created by humans. Machine is flawed. This old dude is full of himself. Arrogance can overshadow true confidence. Not once did it say that his 1000 test were all successful on his part.
The machines work reasonably well. But they do not detect lies. What they measure are heart rate, breathing rate, blood pressure, and skin conductivity. Proponents claim they indicate truthfulness, but tests have shown over and over that they have very high error rates. What they really measure, is the dynamic between the operator and the subject, and whether or not the subject knows how to spoof it. How dumb is that?
His 30 years of experience in polygraph test is nothing. Polygraph examiners have to lie to public/applicants so they could have Job. There's no such a thing as a lie detector. According to David, a polygrapher. An honest person doesn't sweat at all 😂..
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So let me get this straight....if you're calm because you're actually telling the truth... it must mean I took something? You have to be kidding me. What about those that don't find taking a polygraph to be stressful at all? Maybe someone with a military background that has been in way more stressful situations so a polygraph is just a cake walk..
The Lie Detective is a character-driven documentary series that follows the work of independent Polygraph Examiner and self-professed truth seeker, Ken Donaldson, as he helps people from all walks of life in their quest for truth, resolution, and freedom from deception. Ken's clients must then face difficult questions and find answers that can change their lives - for better or worse. Says Ken of his work, "I always think somebody is going to try and cheat, and if the're going to try, I'm going to catch them." Episode 1: Body Builders Never Cheat? Banned substances are a big problem in the world of body building. Ken is hired by Matthew Park of International Natural Bodybuilding & Fitness, Canada, whose premier competition is fast approaching. Ken must polygraph all athletes to ensure their chiseled physiques were achieved without drugs. Not only is Matt's reputation on the line, but for the athletes, being branded a cheater is death to their natural body building careers. The pressure is on Ken to keep the competition fair for everyone. ua-cam.com/video/DSCp-c5WcfE/v-deo.html
Ken Donaldson "comment advertisement" on your comment too lol. 3 others on here got the same comment from Ken Donaldson. But anyways, I see what you mean. The combination of the stats that the machine provides with your own God given discernment is what makes the machine useful. The being performing the evaluation is the lie detector. This is truly what makes "beating the machine" difficult. You are trying to fool a human being not a machine. The best advice I ever truly got was "avoid putting yourself in a position where you would have to lie".
Neither can a human really. You might examine blink rates, or eye shiftyness or whatever, and while these *can* indicate lying, also, people just do that stuff.
and if there was a way to beat a polygraph do you think that our governments would allow TV show companies and people in general on UA-cam to go out giving information like this to the general public a big giant no
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One good way to beat the Polygraph is before the Test Eat bean Burrito's and drink a lot of soda so you burp and fart that will really screw up the test
This is BULLSHIT! you may as well read their Farts, you would have the same results. It's been proving by MIT, CAL POLY, YALE, Johns Hopkins, Even NASA and many others that "body language" and "Lie detectors" are BULL SHIT! you have better odds flipping a coin. This is Tea leaf "science", but Assclowns keep living in delusions. Robert Hanssen, John Walker, Ted Bundy and many others have "passed" lie detector and "body language" tests for YEARS! before they were caught by someone making a phone call and giving them up. This is Complete BULLSHIT!
The best way to pass a polygraph test is to justify the lie to your self before and during the test
what would the justification have to do with it? sorry im just curious. the only techniques I was aware of was altering the actual memory of said events or the more common manipulation of control question.
@@damnation8794 if you believe it you won't see it as a lie, thus won't act and have the reactions of it as if you didn't believe it and it was a lie
@@damnation8794 the polygraph can only measure stress. It's prone to errors and false positives in nervous people. If you justify the lie for yourself, the stress is less.
F.e. what actually counts as lying, stealing, being "late" or breaking something ?
What you would fell dumny
Imagine that if you tell the truth, somebody is going to shoot a baby in the head. Therefore, you must lie to save an innocent baby's life!
Polygraphs are BS I took one a year ago and lied on pretty much every question he asked and he asked about 20 questions, in the end I passed with flying colors.
@Noah Shields Honestly I don't know cause I was nervous as hell but I tried my best to slow my breathing down and keep my muscle relaxed because they were measuring my pulse, breathing, and they had me sitting on a pad that detects when you clinch your muscles.
You serious?
@@shad5236 Yeah, I honestly thought I was going to fail it. Can't give any details because It would be a bit incriminating.
I got you. I passed up a police officer position because of stupid polygraph. I was scared of failing
@@shad5236 Yeah I hear you, not sure I trust them after that. I shouldn't of passed that, maybe the guy gave me a pass....Maybe he liked me, idk. It really boils down to the individual. That's what's dangerous about the polygraph, not whether it's accurate or not but the fact that you have a person interpreting the data. If you rub them the wrong way their probably more inclined to interpret that data in a manner that fit's their perception of you.
You can make yourself feel calm and nervous on different questions so it doesn’t show up as a flat rating
the key is to show a huge reaction during the baseline negative period, and a modestly calm response during the baseline neutral periods. As long as that range is wide, anything kind of middling will be ignored.
The guy in this video at 3:50 got arrested by undercover agents asking to be educated about how to pass a polygraph, was charged with "witness tampering" and "mail fraud", and was sentenced to 2 years in prison.
Doug The OG Williams
Alex was asking Ed all about the possibility of beating the lie detector. What he SHOULD have asked was: Is it possible that a person might fail their lie detector test even when telling the truth? If not, why not?
About 2/3 of people fail even though they are telling the truth. It is not a lie detector, it's a breathing rate, heart rate, blood pressure and and skin conductivity detector. It *can* be triggered by lies, but it can also be triggered by the tone of the examiner, or by an active imagination. "think about the beach", okay, think about the exam room instead. It's not exactly peaceful, but also not the worst thing ever. "think about falling", okay, think about your child's death by falling. the key is to *way* overreact to the questions that indicate stress, and under-react to the ordinary. Then, anything that happens during the 'exam' is iin between, and you pass.
I was special forces and a OGA operator and I've been the box EVERY time. It's not hard at all. It's the same discipline as controlling your breathing.
You can beat the damned thing. Humans are flawed. This machine created by humans. Machine is flawed.
This old dude is full of himself. Arrogance can overshadow true confidence.
Not once did it say that his 1000 test were all successful on his part.
The machines work reasonably well. But they do not detect lies. What they measure are heart rate, breathing rate, blood pressure, and skin conductivity. Proponents claim they indicate truthfulness, but tests have shown over and over that they have very high error rates. What they really measure, is the dynamic between the operator and the subject, and whether or not the subject knows how to spoof it. How dumb is that?
I have really bad anxiety and it kind of manipulates my mind so I would probably mess up real bad even if I’m telling the truth
It will. Maybe don't take one.
What about taking certain meds......muscle relaxers, antidepressants, stimulants, etc. ????
Because someone is to calm that means they’re lying? Well of course they’re going to fail!
His 30 years of experience in polygraph test is nothing. Polygraph examiners have to lie to public/applicants so they could have Job. There's no such a thing as a lie detector. According to David, a polygrapher. An honest person doesn't sweat at all 😂..
It's not a lie if YOU believe it or it doesn't matter to you. Like a politician
OMG!!! This is Ed Torien. He used to do the hilarious fake polygraph tests on the Howard Stern show.
2:23 Oh, look who's out of prison for helping an admitted child molester to get away with his crime by trying to help him pass a polygraph test!
It was a sting operation. And polygraph results are not admissible as evidence in court.
It is not illegal to give people information, except in despotic nations.
That was Safiya's music in the beginning
RIP Doug Williams
Lmao im just watching this to see if it was possible 🤧😂
The Lie Detective is a character-driven documentary series that follows the work of independent Polygraph Examiner and self-professed truth seeker, Ken Donaldson, as he helps people from all walks of life in their quest for truth, resolution, and freedom from deception. Ken's clients must then face difficult questions and find answers that can change their lives - for better or worse. Says Ken of his work, "I always think somebody is going to try and cheat, and if the're going to try, I'm going to catch them."
Episode 1: Body Builders Never Cheat?
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Banned substances are a big problem in the world of body building. Ken is hired by Matthew Park of International Natural Bodybuilding & Fitness, Canada, whose premier competition is fast approaching. Ken must polygraph all athletes to ensure their chiseled physiques were achieved without drugs. Not only is Matt's reputation on the line, but for the athletes, being branded a cheater is death to their natural body building careers. The pressure is on Ken to keep the competition fair for everyone.
Lol same here..I have a pre employment test soon
@@michaelschmidt245 what kind of questions did they ask ? I know it’s been a year lol but I have one coming up
It's not only possible, it's easy, as long as you understand how they work and how to manipulate your own physiological responses.
The one doing the polygraph test reminds me of Buddy Hackett.
So let me get this straight....if you're calm because you're actually telling the truth... it must mean I took something? You have to be kidding me. What about those that don't find taking a polygraph to be stressful at all? Maybe someone with a military background that has been in way more stressful situations so a polygraph is just a cake walk..
Why would you use an expert examiner who DOESNT BELIEVE in polygraph machines? That's an immediate conflict of interest.
if the machine works as advertised the test givers personal beliefs should have zero affect on the tests results.
That was the guy on the Howard Stern show
Is anyone Philipino here?
Please tell that do they use lie detector in philippines in court?
How much does this lie detector cost anyway to use?
2:26 mans was exposed for faking test before tf 😭😭😭
Yes
You can spot a liar but the machine can’t do it .
The Lie Detective is a character-driven documentary series that follows the work of independent Polygraph Examiner and self-professed truth seeker, Ken Donaldson, as he helps people from all walks of life in their quest for truth, resolution, and freedom from deception. Ken's clients must then face difficult questions and find answers that can change their lives - for better or worse. Says Ken of his work, "I always think somebody is going to try and cheat, and if the're going to try, I'm going to catch them."
Episode 1: Body Builders Never Cheat?
Banned substances are a big problem in the world of body building. Ken is hired by Matthew Park of International Natural Bodybuilding & Fitness, Canada, whose premier competition is fast approaching. Ken must polygraph all athletes to ensure their chiseled physiques were achieved without drugs. Not only is Matt's reputation on the line, but for the athletes, being branded a cheater is death to their natural body building careers. The pressure is on Ken to keep the competition fair for everyone.
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Ken Donaldson "comment advertisement" on your comment too lol. 3 others on here got the same comment from Ken Donaldson. But anyways, I see what you mean. The combination of the stats that the machine provides with your own God given discernment is what makes the machine useful. The being performing the evaluation is the lie detector. This is truly what makes "beating the machine" difficult. You are trying to fool a human being not a machine. The best advice I ever truly got was "avoid putting yourself in a position where you would have to lie".
Neither can a human really. You might examine blink rates, or eye shiftyness or whatever, and while these *can* indicate lying, also, people just do that stuff.
Doug died in march of 2021 rip
Finally some good news
Why
@@tsway7458you just be a polygraphrr
Wanted one for my cheating girlfriend, i had proof and she passed. These are bogus
Can a lie detector test work on reincarnations?
No, because they don't work in the first place.
Buddy Hackett is alive and well as a polygrapher.
Buddy Hackett died about 20+ years ago!
@@pamelaroberts-price7191 No kidding?
He reminded me of him too!
Still, not admittable in court.
Hey hey. He has counted a million tests and then?
Think about falling, he said to the skydiver.
He is trying to show how you can manipulate your physiology. The second part explains it.
Ed tryin his best to be relevant
and if there was a way to beat a polygraph do you think that our governments would allow TV show companies and people in general on UA-cam to go out giving information like this to the general public a big giant no
Polygraphs don’t work. It’s been proven.
actually, yes
TV show companies are *not* always honest.🤦🏻♀️
If they worked, they would be admissible in court.
The Lie Detective is a character-driven documentary series that follows the work of independent Polygraph Examiner and self-professed truth seeker, Ken Donaldson, as he helps people from all walks of life in their quest for truth, resolution, and freedom from deception. Ken's clients must then face difficult questions and find answers that can change their lives - for better or worse. Says Ken of his work, "I always think somebody is going to try and cheat, and if the're going to try, I'm going to catch them."
Episode 1: Body Builders Never Cheat?
Banned substances are a big problem in the world of body building. Ken is hired by Matthew Park of International Natural Bodybuilding & Fitness, Canada, whose premier competition is fast approaching. Ken must polygraph all athletes to ensure their chiseled physiques were achieved without drugs. Not only is Matt's reputation on the line, but for the athletes, being branded a cheater is death to their natural body building careers. The pressure is on Ken to keep the competition fair for everyone.
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That's why should you know how to read that crap what bout they lying telling you you fail
One good way to beat the Polygraph is before the Test Eat bean Burrito's and drink a lot of soda so you burp and fart that will really screw up the test
geiadude legit?
Probably not, but it would be fun making the operator sit there and take it.
You can go to prison after a polygraph exam?
Only if you are stupid enough to perjure yourself during the exam.
Hi dexterity and hope
This is BULLSHIT! you may as well read their Farts, you would have the same results. It's been proving by MIT, CAL POLY, YALE, Johns Hopkins, Even NASA and many others that "body language" and "Lie detectors" are BULL SHIT! you have better odds flipping a coin. This is Tea leaf "science", but Assclowns keep living in delusions. Robert Hanssen, John Walker, Ted Bundy and many others have "passed" lie detector and "body language" tests for YEARS! before they were caught by someone making a phone call and giving them up. This is Complete BULLSHIT!
Ed is another joke
Yes