STARTING BMX AT 33: The Manual Machine
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Here's to being 33 and taking up a new sport! This is the first video in a series where i try to learn to ride BMX, something i've never tried before. I have decent bike control on a mountainbike and road bike, but these skills don't seem to translate as well to BMX. The other way around, it is said that you unlock the holy grail of bike control!
The first skill i wanted to improve was the manual. Of course i looped out and crashed. So i built a manual machine/manual trainer to practice safely.
The BMX i got is a used 2005 GT Bestwick, still in pretty good condition.
Please ignore the lack of safety gear while building the manual machine
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I need this for quarantine! Much love man. Never forget, the bmx is always be there for you at 12, 19, 24, 33, 41, 53. Does'nt matter
Thanks dude! We're not in quarantine yet here in Sweden so I try to ride mtb as much as I can but safe and solo. If lockdown comes around, I'll be getting my manuals on point again! Stay safe!
Very true i am back at it 50 years old this year and just purchased a 24” bmx cruiser, after riding mtb for many years it feels like starting all over again, but having a lot of fun learning new skills, plus great fitness too 😀👍
Well to be honest, Those are some pretty good manuals to be the first ones ever :D
Thanks dude...they seem to be the key to unlocking a lot of other cool tricks.
They are a lot of easier when bike is not moving :) But still, that guy has a good progress
i wish mine look like this , but they dont even after hours of training :D
starting a 35 also :D
I started BMX at 40. I feel more safe doing footjams than even trying a manual still
Within my first week I managed to loop out badly twice and crack a helmet...since then, i feel more comfortable doing suicide no handers over 8m gaps on my enduro mtb than trying to manual a bmx 🤣
Love it! Just turned 33, just got my first bmx too.
Thanks dude! I'm already realising it's harder than I thought it would be...but I'm practicing. 👊
just starting my self at 35 wish i had one of these. my manuals aren't going so hot so far
I’m starting bmx at 41!
Awesome dude! Film your progress, so far I've been riding way too little bmx to get good...mtb though, that's another story.
Hows it going? I'm edging towards 46 and my first bmx is bought and waiting for me. I always wanted one as a kid but was bought racers, as we called them. I was appreciative for sure, and rode the hell out of my bikes but bmx was really the bike I should have had in that urban environment. Never too late? Lol.
Do you have an Instagram i could follow dude?
Ditto. Mid life crisis
I just started at 37. So far I suck balls but its only been a few months. I tried to bunny hop onto a planter yesterday, missed the back wheel and destroyed my shin with the pedal. Shin pads ordered. I'm finding it's the balance which is hardest. Hopefully it's just a matter of building up the muscle memory
After riding geared mountain bikes all my life, I recently started BMX at 35 (now 36) and love it, for concrete it beats the MTB hands down, riding a DH bike on the street was a nightmare.. Love my BMX
Big bikes have their place, concrete is usually not it. I’ve had a few hard crashes with the box and now prefer a dirt jumper for messing about on in the street, but i get you, there’s s something about the simplicity of a bmx that just makes it fun.
I too am 33 and just picked up a kink whip :D Let's go!
Yeah dude! Still stoked on bmx in spite of how many times I've crashed! 🤘
That’s pretty cool. I haven’t seen one of these before. Looking forward to bmx videos to come.
Thanks dude! Getting to grips with the little bike is good fun!
@@HFODT hey can you put a video on how to build it or give us some instructions
This is a good idea.
Great vid know I can learn to manual and watch tv
Haha that's what I did! Still bad at manualling though, guess I just don't have a sense of balance :)
hello, i'm french and today I created my manual machine and she and really amazing. very Nice tutorial, the sensations are really cool. thank you very much this machine and perfect in rainy weather :3
Thanks! Nice to see ypu're taking on the fine art of manualling! I'm still hoping to get better every day but it takes time!
This is the first and the most genious idea to learn manual. Can't wait to build this tool. I hope manual will be in my pocket soon. Thumbs up for you dude!!!!.
Thanks! Gotta say though this is only half the battle. After you learn how hard to pull and where the balance point is, practice outside. Manuals are much harder outside than on a manual machine, but the manual machine helps a whole lot.
I'm so glad I found you. I am also starting my BMX journey at 32.
Thanks dude! Shred on!
Yo I just got a bmx on my 32 birthday. Its a Sunday model c 24 inch tires! I've been going to the skatepark and can drop in but thats about it. Only had the bike a week. Really want to manual but haven't caught on yet
Great idea ! I'm just starting to learn at 45. I'm going to have to build one of those.
I'm 15, and started bmx recently, and this was super helpful!
Awesome to hear that, keep at it!👊
I recommend going out on a parking lot as you will learn more about balance and be in motion. But before actually starting to manual, I think you should practice getting your feet off the pedals so you are comfortable jumping off the bike so you don’t land on your back.
Thanks for the tip, I've already been doing that. Managed to loop out and spinal a couple of times anyway...but it's all part of the process...
Love your midschool Gt….great video brother,,,cheers from nyc ……stay rad
We're the same age and I'm DYING to get another bmx after being away for 15 years. In the meantime I've ridden fixed gear road bikes. Subbed :)
Dude, just get one! Mine's a second hand I found for like 70 EUR. Nothing fancy but so stoked on it!
HFODT fuck it. I'm going shopping lol This should be interesting. Wish me luck 😂😂😂
Hell yeah dude! Let me know how it goes!
I m 40 and stared driving BMX recently after 13 years of no bike at all
Great idea! Good for learning to manual on pegs anyway.
It helped me quite a bit, although practice outside is what's gonna get you manual master status.
@@HFODT Got the manuals dialed a while ago. Taking it to the bmx track now and it like learning all over again. Lol
50, returning to bmx, whoa-fully out of shape, 60 pounds heavier and falling hurts for much longer now.
Good on you! I spinalled pretty badly last season on the bmx so not ridden it since then but itching to give it another go this off season. It's amazing how unsure I feel on a little bike compared to an mtb.
@@HFODT I was tooling around on a flight pro cruiser just to ride but you really can't flatland on it. I switched to a haro sport and man I feel off riding it, i lived on a haro for years as a teen into my 20's then drifted from it as i got older. I really thought it would come back faster than it is. I guess I just need to ride more.
Great video! loved your angles and pace of the video plus the manual machine looked like a fun build keep it up!!
Thanks dude, glad you enjoyed it!
Cool design! Awesome job!
Thanks dude, doesn't exactly mimic manualling outside but it's as close as i could come to it.
really what i need now
I've never seen something like this before
Great JOB
Thanks dude! Planning to build one too?
@@HFODT First i need to buy a street BMX but I have a problem cuz I don't know from wich guite / website
Could you help me with this?
@@poprostukamil3318 sunday or fit. Always. Or haro. Stln is a good brand too.. sourcebmx.com is where i buy everything from
@@cjsgarage3789 thank you 😃✌💪
@@poprostukamil3318 np👌
Got back into riding a couple weeks ago at 30. The biggest issue is how bad
My hands hurt after a couple hours in the park.
Yeah, bmx isn't exactly easy on the body!
Huge tip is some extra cushy silicon grips and some gloves, really helps
i am 45. i am a manual master. this popped up randomly in my videos. i seen mt bikers do this. do not do this. this will never help. as you are not rolling. it will never ever be the same feeling. all i can say is have a good brake. lean back. bend the knees. pump them in and out. watch other pros manual. see how they do it. study their body. i seen some chick on youtube doing a mt bike how to manual on one of these machines. i am 100 percent sure she could never ever ever do it in real life. never. or bunnyhop in and out of manual. into other tricks. grinds etc. just like with anything. it is about time spend on the saddle. everywhere you ride. lean back. manual. do one sidewalk crack at a time. then 2. the go to parking lots. from one yellow line to another. then another. study it. watch others. only doing it for real will work. this machine is like going from tball to fast pitch. and not being able to hit the fast pitch. this will hinder your manual. and even if you can do it on this machine. it is like learning to ollie sitting still and not rolling. anyone can do it. now try to ollie a skateboard rolling. throw this machine in the garbage and just ride. ride ride ride. and lean back and just keep trying.
A manual master eh? I've been realizing exactly what you're saying little by little. I can easily hold my front wheel up for 30 sec on the manual machine but in the car park I manage maybe two parking spots. Huge difference. I'm now practicing outside and it's way harder. What this gave me though is the confidence to recognise when I'm looping out and if I can save it or not. The first time I tried manualing a bmx I hit the back of my head hard enough to have headaches for a couple of weeks.
just if you are afraid of flipping back. make sure you got a killer brake. if you go back to far. hit the brake. if you front end drops. let it. let it hit the ground and pull right back up. i got tons of videos showing me manual decks of bowls. quarterpipes. i can hop out of manuals into grinds etc. etc. but i have rode bmx most my life. and i am 45 and i have bmx tattooed on my forearm. so i better be able to. i can do them as long as the lights are green bro. bmx. martial arts. archery. guns. survival. snowboarding. those are what i am good at. i have no issue saying i suck at video games. or i suck at baseball. but i do know a few things. one one is bmx. it is time spent. the more you manual. the more you ride. the more you can do them. hop up a curb. land in one. hold it carving around light posts and then to a small stair set and hop out of the manual and off the stairs. and that is basic. that is stuff my old sorry butt can do. now they do whips in and out of them. flip in and out etc. but you will be great at them if you just do them. i am not as good now as when i only rode bmx. but i still can float them with ease. but when i seen mt bikers doing this stand i thought. god the time it took to make that thing. could of been a hour or two of real manual training outside while actually moving. the world changes when you move. doing manuals super slow or doing them super fast. that changes things. but sitting still. dont help any. i really believe these machines dont help even 1 percent. only doing it will help. but this is just my opinion. i am old and fat. if i can do it. you can too. i will be making tons of bmx videos this summer. i will sub to you. you can sub back. if you go to my page you can see my main video is called rad bmx tribute. me last summer doing old school tricks and i redid the intro to rad. if you like it. comment. and i can send you a link to some of my manual vids. i have over 800 vids. so it is to many to sort through. peace and good luck.
Yeah...i checked out your videos. You have some skills man! Thanks for the advice. The wind plays a huge role too for me and the angle the pavement is tilted at. Way harder to do them one one side of my street than the other. But I get what you're saying. Practice, practice and practice. Hopefully by the end of summer I'll get there!
and a slight downhill is easier also. if you find a long mellow parking lot. go downhill. hold it up. set it down. hold it up. and just the whole way downhill. keep doing them. when the wheel drops. take a second. bend the knees. pull it back. do it over. over over over over and over. that is how i got good. everywhere i rode. i would manual. i would then find my lines in town or campus. and i would manual from this line to that one. or from this sidewalk to the curb. i have done some i bet a football field length. any day of the week a good 40 to 60 footer. but there were times in my peak of riding when i was 30 or so and i would be in the zone. riding alot. mid summer and i would find a few blocks where it was downhill slightly and go as fast as i could pedal. and then lean back. float the first 50 to 100 feet before tapping the brake. because once you tap the brake. you start to have to do it more and more and slow down as you manual. that is why the brakeless guys who are real good at it. do it longer. as there is no tapping. only pumping the legs. no slowing down. etc. keep going. and i did sub to you. so if you put out a vid this summer doing one outside 50 feet. i can comment. ya boy you did it. you know. you got this. just keep going.
Manual master... do you have any videos of you doing a manual?
This is cool idea, you can even practice when it's raining. Takes a bit of the fun out, but what a sweet project.
Thanks! Yeah, it's a great bad weather project! To be honest it won't make you a manual master without tons of practice outside as well...at least it hasn't made me one yet.
This is a great idea. I am 45 and getting back into it after 20+ years. This would have been great to have because the first day I took my new bike out I looped doing a manual and stretched my MCL and tore my miniscus. This would have prevented that from happening.
Thanks! I'm not the first to build one but it has certainly helped me along a bit. I had exactly the same problem, first time I tried to manual a bmx I looped out, didn't manage to jump off in time, spinaled and hit the back of my head. Had headaches for weeks afterwards. This has helped me be comfortable with throwing my weight back and finding the balance point.
Try intentionally looping out first. On some grass if you like. Learn to bail if you go too far back or press the brake. Get some protection, you will fall sooner or later in bmx.
Super cool
if you want to get into bmx then its not about staying at home, practicing manuals. its about being outside, riding, befriending other riders, learning to read architecture, finding spots and so on.
just my two cents from many years of riding.
Totally agree! The bmx scene is pretty small here in Stockholm, and the majority of my riding is enduro/dh. Bmx was an experiment to see if I can build up some street skills which will then hopefully translate to the bigger wheels too. So far, slow going though, been spending most my time on the big bike.
Yeah, my first attempt at learning to manual caused me to loop out and hurt my ankle. Second attempt: pretty much same except for hurt shoulder and not ankle. So, in hindsight, do you think this machine was beneficial?
Looping out was a concern especially since the first thing I did with that bmx was loop out and smack my head on the ground. I think the manual machine helped a little with finding the balance point, but more importantly it helped with the mental barrier I had for throwing my weight back far enough. I've started practicing outside too and while install can't manual further than like 10m, I feel way safer doing it. I still loop out occasionally, but now it's second nature to jump off safely. So to me it was beneficial. Not that if you build one you'll magically be able to manual for hours, but it helped a little. The rest will hopefully come from hours of practice.
What about the 3rd time? Howmany times until you nailed it?
Mid school bikes are dope lol
For what I paid for it, it's great. Much better than the rider :) just swapped out the bars for larger ones.
HFODT yeah taller bars and a top load stem helps the back a lot
can you share the plans and measures? I think it's a very good video. Congratulations
Thanks dude! I don't really have any plans, I just bought some wood and measured it on the spot. I used two 12x128mm 4m long planks of impregnated wood, the kind that you'd use for a deck hope that helps!
Here I am just turning 30 and let me tell you it surprises me till this day to think that all this time I miss my early 20s and before because I raced bmx for 13 years and last class I raced was 19-26x and after having my first child at 16 I raced still and wanted to make it to worlds and I was good too like hands down good but with a child and smoking at 18 I was let’s just say disappointed at myself for smoking and at 19 I met this dude who took me in as his little brother I got into street and I love street to death and I can manny like a mothatrucka lol but 360s I’m working on and bar spins but you put me in front of a ledge or rail and stairs I’ll 180 and or 180 half cab off a 7-10 set stair or decent gap and pull it off but like I said 360s and bars are my challenge right now and for grinds I can double peg, 180 double, 180 feeble, smith, sprocket stall because I have the first original subrosa magnum red and black sprocket guard with the Trojan symbol lol, crook grind and 180 crook grind to fakies. It’s funny to because 360s and bars just get to me and idk why I can’t but I can let go of one hand and I can pull up bar like nothing and faking pull up bar but I can’t hop bar lol
I think I'm gonna build one of these!
Go for it! Let me know how it goes!
Thats sick thats alsobreally good forbur first
Thanks dude! I can kinda manual an mtb so I know the feeling of being at the balance point. BMXs are a lot twitchier though...
Nice one I just started 10 months ago myself at 29 I will be 30 in 5 months! lol. Just a though I would point it out you sprocket is massive and you bars are tinny! old school set up ,there pretty cheap part to replace though. Personally I only looped out and spineled once when I was learning how to manual, once you can you can bail out of a manual at at speed you wouldn't get hurt so there is very little danger. that pretty cool thing if it is raining or snowing and you dont have access to a indoor skatepark but you can beat the practicing outside it also easier because you can use marker to see how far did a manual. What else trick are you working on? Yeah Bmx isn't kind on the body especially for us older dudes ha but damn is it ever fun. Best advice is to make friends with some older BMXers in the skatepark and they will show you the ropes and it will help you progress.
Thanks dude! Yeah, the bike is a second hand deal, and i had changing a few things out in mind. So far i've swapped out the bars, stem and installed a 25t sprocket. The idea behind the manual machine was to get myself comfortable with throwing my weight back with such short chainstays. It feels like you need a lot less effort to loop out than on an mtb. Also the first time i tried manualling that bmx, i looped out, caught my foot on the rear pegs and hit my head pretty bad. I've gotten to the point where i'm totally comfortable bailing outside and can keep the front end up for 10ish meters. Started working on fakies and 180s...tough on the wrists! Also gotten comfortable..ish with dropping into a bowl. Nice to see there are other dudes my age staring bmx!
if those are your first ever manuals those are damn good, way better than mine
Nah I can kinda half ass manuals on an mtb but 20" wheels just feel sketchy. They loop out crazy quick! Also manuals in a manual machine and outside are two different beasts.
Awesome contraption dude! my only concern is that it might take away from someone's bailing skills which I believe are crucial. How did it work out for you at the end?
Thanks! I share your concern. While I’ve gotten better at manualling a bmx, I still feel more comfortable on a mountain bike because of the bigger wheels and more powerful brakes. I also find that it’s easier to bail off an mtb…
A quick update for the bike is higher bars ,to not hurt your back that easly
Thanks for the tip, I thought about it too, I'll have some coming in the post soon! Speaking of hurting, what do you bmx guys do about aching wrists?
There isnt realy anything to do its something tat comes with riding bmx. But youlle learn to live with it
kurt ciangura it makes uour back hurt,thats qhy we alwayas use biguer bars ,they are cheap
This is really cool dude thx
Thanks, glad you like it!👊
Stoked on this cause I'm 30 and starting bmx. Got lucky and picked up a haro downtown 2016 ride ready for 100 bucks lol missing talking bars and pegs but killer bike!
Awesome dude! 👊 How are fiding it so far? I'm getting more and more comfortable dropping into bowls and pumping but manuals are still a major challenge.
ngl your doing very good fro your first attempts keep going you have potential!
Thanks dude! I'm still not a manual master on a bmx but i got better at manualling my mtb.
hi what size of wood did you use? thanks
Only hiccup I see is cant you balances based on the pegs friction? Because the pegs are still so they are rolling in the cut outs correct?
Yeah, to an extent, there is some friction there. Not enough to balance the bike though but i guess it helps. I've tried reducing it by rubbing a soap bar over the contact area with the pegs. Hot tip: this also works on creaky drawers with wooden sliders :)
@@HFODT I’m gonna follow these specs and try it out. I run plastic pegs so I’ll figure out what I can line it with that doesnt allow resistance.
tell you...after the nightmare of assembling one today that is commercially available, this one is nice! 51 here and vow to master the art of manualing by summer's end. How are you doing these days?
This was a wing it as i go kind of project and it worked out pretty well! These days i mostly ride mtb and try to learn tricks, but I still have the little bike. Maybe i'll bust it out for some indoor park action during winter.
39 just starting bmx I can't get the front end to come up an inch I hope this helps
Good on you dude! Just remember it's about weight distribution, not yanking at the bars. Also, what i've learned by crashing, keep the front wheel low, like a few cm off the ground, you're less likely to loop out.
What a smart idea
Thanks dude! I'm not the first guy out there who made these though :)
Dude that was good!
Thanks! Still scared of riding BMX compared to my long low and slack MTB...
HFODT dude what?! That down hill riding stuff is 10000x more scary idk how you do that lol it’s sooo fast and bumpy but it looks fun
@@MrDillon2029 Guess I'm just more used to it...
Hello brother, thanks for the video. is the bike you ride a GT bump?
Awesome video. Think I'll have to build one for my boy.
Thanks!
are you the original OG with the manual trainer? i see a lot of them now.
Haha I wish...I'm probably one of the first who built them for bmx, but I think Mr Tonka made the first one for mtb. Hats off to that guy for inspiring a whole herd of copycats :)
My friend asked to build one for his kid where can I purchase the plans or see the lumber size .. looks like 2x6x10
I like your concept because you get the feel for the weight transfer without taking off the chain.
Thanks dude! To be honest I just winged it, so i have no detailed plans. The planks i used are 4m long, and 12x128mm in crossection. I just had the bike with me and measured each piece to fit. Hope that helps!
Nice !
Thanks dude!
This could be a game changer! I've just started riding again at 35 after almost 20 years away. Even hoping kerbs and riding to work and back is just so exhilarating. I'm well keen to make my own manual machine for these cold winter nights. Do you have any technical specs for me to build my own? Great video, I'll definitely be keeping an eye out for more content. Stay rad dude.
Cool that you're getting back into it! I basically bought some planks and winged it as i went along, so I'm sure there's room for improvement. My best advice is have your bike with you and measure as you go. Also, i still don't feel I've mastered manuals, and a manual machine is only part of the story. It's great training, and it will help you find the balance point, but nothing can replace practicing outside. You can't mimic the side to side forces or the terrain undulations with a manual machine. Good luck with the manuals! 🤘
@@HFODT thanks for the advice bro! I'm gonna start building in the next week or two. I understand it's mainly a balance point tool but I'm in the north of the UK so it's more so I can keep up to scratch while the weather sucks. My manuals are around 4 parking spaces atm, just worried about losing my progress due to bad weather. Thanks again dude 👊🏻
I am 36yold now. just waiting for my bike now to start.
Cool, go for it! I am still by no means good at manuals but i've gotten better. I mostly ride mtb now though after a few bmx induced concussions.
I as well am an old fart, lol. 36 an started 2yrs ago i love it, i can manual as far as i want about 6 out 10x's i try, i literally practiced daily best advice is once u get er up hold ur position any movements an your thrown out of whack, arms locked use legs to control height of wheel push to raise sqaut to lower, hope u stick with it. Yes if i had a manual machine i would have used it, muscle memory is everything for manuals
Thanks for the tip! I'm still very inconsistent with my manuals, sometimes I can do 10-15m sometimes I loop out and have a concussion. Taken more slams on the bmx in a year than I have on the mtb in 10. But baby steps...
I just bought a subday model c 24 bmx and feel like my weight all shifts to my feet when I try to manual. No matter where my but is. Any pointers
Not something I've experienced. Maybe your butt's not as far back as it should be?
Bought one myself having a hard time finding balance point . I'm hoping this video helps me pretty cheap to build.
Cool! Great job! I think I'll build one for myself!
Awesome to hear that, would be cool to know if it improves your manuals!
@@HFODT I actually built one and it has helped a lot with my balance! Thanks a lot for the great idea!
@@ITS_MK65 Cool, glad i could help!
Cool build. Can use it as a bike rack after you learn the manual lol. Learning to loop out and bail was the best thing I could have done. I still can’t manual long because I hardly get to practice but I don’t fall like before. I just hop off.
That alone is a fantastic skill to have!
Do these REALLY work? I can manual using rear brake but want to learn weight shift, is this my ticket?
Yes and no...I can manual for a minute straight on the machine but on asphalt I can do maybe 3-4 seconds max. There are way more factors that you can't really mimic on a manual machine. What I will say, is that it taught me to find the balance point a lot faster.
HFODT well I built one this weekend and I think it’s going to help with the muscle memory. I could manual 100’ feathering my brake but felt like shifting back and forth is key to the long ones. I think that manuals on the street seem a little easier but maybe it’s just in my head. I can’t believe how exhausting this manual machine is! Thing is a fitness trainer none the less! All in all I think it’s going to help. I talked to some people who claim they can manual forever now cause of practicing the manual machine. Every person will be different of course!
i'm 46 and love bmx... get some bigger modern bars, those are super tiny and especially for a grown man you will find pulling up way easier with bigger bars, trust me. very nice bike btw!!!
Already updated the bike a little with a smaller chainring and bigger bars. Still finding my way around it though, stuff I feel totally comfortable doing on my mtb seems daunting on the little bike. Loving it though!
nice one. bmx rules. really dig your bike i bet it looks great with bigger bars.
Interested in copying your build.. Any chance you can post the materials, specs?
To be fair I was winging it. I used impregnated pine planks and just measured everything on the spot to match the bike, so your dimensions will probably vary. I can see if I still have a rough sketch of the design.
HFODT that would be awesome if you could
actually if you could just let me know what size wood you used that should be enough.. specifically trying to understand what size you used to hoist your bike on the pegs.. are those 2x6? or 1x6? or?
It's all made out of 2.6cm x 11.7cm planks, so I'm guessing that's 1x4.5 in. Hope that helps! Email me if you want detailed pics of the build, it's still in my attic somewhere
HFODT no worries I managed to build one based on your video.. thanks a bunch!
really cool vid man keep it up
Thanks dude! I need to do more bmx edits!
that, ORrrrr just go to any local empty parking lot and u saved yourself time and money.
I tried the parking lot method and looped out and trashed myself. Figured I'd comfort my bruised ego and small concussion by spending 7 EUR on timber. It was a fun build!
@@HFODT I love this idea. I am 35 and haven't rode in 15 years. I just started getting back into bmx and it hurts to fall at this age.
The hardest part is my brain thinks it still knows how to do the stuff I did over a decade ago, but I recently noticed what I thought I knew has been distorted after all this time. It's almost harder relearning than learning for the first time.
@@GolfSux I'd consider myself a pretty competent and confident mtb rider, I've competed in enduro and DH and ride most things. On a bmx dropping into a bowl still scared the living crap out of me and when I fall I fall way harder that on my mtb...never really understood why.
@@HFODT I am the other way. I never rode MTB till recently. Got one for riding with my kids. I am getting used to bmx again, but it is still a little awkward.
I wont even consider riding a mtb at the skatepark. They are so weird to me.
@@GolfSux I think that challenging yourself to ride different bikes will eventually make you better. That's why I got the bmx. Unforgiving bike...
So did it end up helping? Thinking of building one of these for my son
It got me closer to the balance point for sure, but the only correct way to learn manuals properly is to take them outside. There are just so many aspects of manuals that cannot be mimicked by one axis of movement. Either way, it helped a little and I’m sure it’s gonna be a fun project for you and your son.
@@HFODT thanks man sounds like a good time.
If the back wheel rolls, then this means that I can wheelie as well right ?
Technically yes, however with wheelies you have resistance from the ground when pedalling, here you'll just be pedalling through air. Possibly adding some kind of resistance band instead of the rear tyre could solve this. Hope you can visualize what I mean.
Roughly a year later now.. did this help you.. and how are your manuals now? Update.
My bmx manuals are still pretty bad because I mostly rode MTB. Had a pretty bad crash on the bmx and put it away for a while. My MTB manuals are getting better, I can do like 20-25m now, which is way more than I could before. Still not great though...the manual machine will get you to a point where you're comfortable with leaning off the back, but you need to practice manuals outside. The only way to learn.
Nice
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Sorry if i sound rude, but how much do you weigh?
I'm not far, I'm big boned :) I tend to hover between 80 and 85kg.
thought this would be cool to build then use in my basement in the winter time, something to do anyway. SE OM FLYER
Party why i built mine. The winters here in Sweden are long, cold and dark...best way to not go nuts is to keep yourself occupied!
I've been thinking about building one of those myself, let me know if it works!
Will do! So far i think it's mentally easier to throw your weight back knowing it won't hurt if you loop out.
You need a new bike man and throw that manual trainer out and just go practice somewhere outside.
What's wrong with this one? Apart from the fact that I need taller bars...
compared to 10-15 years ago, bikes are easier to control due to changes in geometry and dropping nearly half their weight. you could pick any basic entry level complete bike from any reputable company for around 300-400 dollars and it'll ride like a dream compared to this thing.
Thought about it, it's probably what I'm gonna do in the future. Figured if I can lean on a heavy old bike, transitioning to something modern would feel great.
The bike is fine, I learned on a GT Performer back in 95 followed by a 2Hip Pork. If he learns on the GT, When he moves to the newer frames it will be like butter
HFODT Sir, the idea is nothing short of genius, yet, you have to respect the old fashioned mindset in my opinion. Just like the truck drivers that won't touch navigation systems. Still using maps.
Good job!
Thanks dude!
awesome
Thanks!
same here. im 33 started april 2018 ...
Awesome dude! How are you finding it so far? I crashed badly a few times and reverted to what I know, mountain bikes, but I'll race more bmx this summer.
@@HFODT ... yeah, me too. stopped street and took more focus on flatland. you wont crash bad in the beginning and its the best workout.
@@Marve0ne I'll give it a try, the guys who can do flatland properly are super imoressive to watch!
@@HFODT keep on whatever yo ride! the only thing ive done the last months is practicing the pegwheelie. so much fun, hate, evrything, but when it comes to the point of balance, its like flying... I LOVE IT !
Need to learn to loop out though
As i learned the hard way several times...
Only bad thing is when your leaning far back. Youre not jumping off. Your relying on the blue strip to pull you back forward. That won’t be there in the street
Yup...my back, neck and cracked helmet know that now...
HFODT 😬
in 2005 bikes felt horrid and I wouldn't put Jamie bestwick down as a manual kinda rider. a modern bike is Hella difference. I am 40 and I ride bmx!
Hoping to get good enough to warrant a new bike. So far my bike's absolutely not the limiting factor. Didn't really know if I'd like bmx so I went for the second hand option.
going back to bmx racing at 35, 24"veterans
Awesome dude! Good luck at the races!
Excellent video.. Is it help to do bunnyhop..
Thanks dude! The bunnyhop is a mix of moving your weight back like you would for a manual and then exploding upwards with your hips like you would in a deadlift at the gym. So kinda, this will get you to the first part of the movement.
Nice work
Thanks!
I believe the word ‘pro’ being on the bike has something to do with the size of the BMX. I have a Haro race *pro* bike and there is a size guide that states *pro* is for people that are my size. Hope this helps?
I meant it as a joke, but you learn something new every day! Got the bike second hand to try and gone my bike handling skills...
HI! any updates? Did you succeed?
Should really shoot an update video. Yeah my manuals got a little better but I spinalled pretty badly last year and haven't touched the bmx since. Been riding my mtb and trying to learn tricks on it. Funny how comfortable I feel on a big bike vs the bmx. Itching to give the bmx another go though.
I'm starting at 35! Flatland BMX :D
Sweet! Flatland requires some crazy skills!
Hey man this looks awesome and I was wondering if u have the blueprint for this so I could try to build it
Thanks! Sorry I don't, I went pretty much on feel. I used two 28mmx120mm planks, the closest measurement in imperial would be a 1x4 or 2x4. Then I just measured everything on the spot.
How much wood do I need to buy?
I think I bought 2 5m planks and I had loads to spare.
HFODT thanks
need a 21 inch top tube.. Standard,S&M,Sunday,WethePeople,Fit etc etc. they dont make bmx bikes taller they make them longer you look way to big for your bike.
This was a second hand bmx just to try, I'll be getting something more modern soonish. But yeah, agree with you, even with bigger bars that bike feels small.
What about left and right balance?
Some things you can't learn on a manual machine. Still, being suspended on the pegs there is a little room for left/right balancing. Nothing beats practicing outside but this helped me get the confidence to be able to know when I'll have to bail off the back.
I’m 30 and outside of a little bit of bmx racing (I wasn’t that great at racing I was scared of the launch gate) and I’m just now getting back into it. But I’m not going into racing, I just wanna be able to ride around and do some fun stuff. I used to skateboard a bit too. Knowing there’s others at my age taking on bmx doesn’t make me feel so weird
Tell me about it...i rolled up to a skate park and raised the average age by about a decade. I ride fully padded up, kids think i'll be doing back flips. I then proceed to disappoint them by almost crashing when dropping into a bowl...
HFODT don’t be discouraged though I have a really crappy bike like other than manualing and maybe simple bar spins and bunny hops I ain’t doing much of this cheapo mongoose. I’m gonna be getting a better bike soon and giving this to some kid in the neighborhood
@@kevinhornak2180 My biggest problem is that the stuff i can do on an mtb, just doesn't translate to what i can do on a bmx. Still too scared of wiping out after i knocked myself out a couple of times, but getting over it slowly.
HFODT I feel ya there bud just keep doing it U will get there if u keep at it
HFODT just be glad u got a decent bike I’m doing stuff on a $100 Walmart mongoose lol my handbags move on me if I’m not careful
Any follow up video of you successfully manualing outside??
I plan to do a video on that, been mostly riding mtb during the summer. So far I've spinaled 4 times but I can keep a manual going for like 10m. Nothing overly impressive.
Slave . Muito muito legal 😎✌👍.
Thanks dude! 👊
While i appreciate the novelty of the idea (getting back behind bars at age 30 myself and falling hurts more after not doing it for 7 years) i'd say rather practice in an empty parking lot and actually loop out on purpose a lot to get used to the sensation and how to catch yourself without eating shit... this setup excludes the most important part of a manual and that's the feeling and physics that momentum brings to the table.
Yeah, you're absolutely spot on! I had jo expectations that this will make me a manual master, and in fact it hasn't, but it's put me closer to finding the balance point, and it was a fun winter project for when the weather is bad. It has helped me along a lot, but you just can't mimic all the physics aspects of a manual indoors on a stationary bike.
Living in Dubai now with 46 degree summers i must say this did put thoughts in my head, finding some way to practice simple things indoors....@@HFODT
I sometimes go to our underground parking garage to hide from the snow and do interval sprints...
Do you have the measurements for the build?
I’m gonna build one today but I have zero build experience
No, sorry, I basically measured the wheelbase and went from there. Padded out the long plank the bike sits on a little so that there is a bit of material in front and behind the bike. In hindsight, I could have had the plank extend a little further back but that I built is pretty stable as is.
HFODT okay thank you
You need some bigger bars bro
Yup, my lower back let me know that right away too. Waiting for delivery...
Lol nice
I've been told the same by the young bucks at the park. In my day we chopped our bars as narrow as possible for barspins, and low so we could get our feet over the bars at the trails
ayy bmx is lit
Tanks dude, bargain price, second hand! Completely different beast from what I'm used to...
is it fully crmo? hi tensile bmxs usually dent easily for me
CroMo 4130. A bit on the heavy side, but I have no real frame of reference, I've only ridden mtb and road before. It's awesome fun though! Not really bothered about it since it didn't cost me much, will probably get something better later on if this breaks...
i know how to manual but i wanna make this so badddd
It's fun to have in the winter months when you can't really ride outside!
Total cost to build?
I had the screws and the lanyard already, the timber was like 7-8 euro. Pretty cheap build!
Thanks to this the bikes at the gym are going to be extinct
Dude if you practice manuals on stationary gym bikes....hats off to you, you boss!
You don't need to lift your front wheel that much. around 15-20 cm off the ground is plenty, so you actually have them nailed, just stay low.
Thanks dude! It does feel way more stable and safe when I keep it low.
@@HFODT I built my own, modelled after your trainer. Goddamn it my knees hurt from practice.
@@HFODT Just watch the pros, they stay really low.
Starting BMX at 47
That's awesome! 🤘
@@HFODT the awesomest!