Reflections on Lonnie Frisbee - FRISBEE 02
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2015
- From Frisbee: The Life and Death of a Hippie Preacher Documentary
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I Was Saved at CC Costa Mesa in 1974 and saw miracles every week - The Greatest Miracles were the hundreds of people Born Again each week and baptised . . I was part of the prayer group when the Blind girl was healed of her blindness. . I saw people rise up from wheelchairs and walk . . But most of these were in the prayer rooms of small groups from Huntington Beach to Riverside Co. I noticed that those who were 'slain in the spirit" fell backward to 'catchers' . . when God baptized me with His Holy Spirit I Fell on my face before Him and Praised His Holy Name . .
Sounds like the enemy came against him. Very sad.
I think it was about hating the manifestations of the Holy Spirit. I just heard from a minister that worked with the church back then say that Chuck Smith came to a couple of leaders, one of them being Greg Laury, and said "I don't want people falling down anymore. That has to stop." They said, "We aren't MAKING people fall down." He said, "I don't care, it just has to stop." Well it stopped alright, but so did all the miracles. I joined Calvary Chapel between 1989-2000, and I never saw even one miracle or healing. Mike Mactinosh; pastor of Horizon, would always talk about the good old days when God healed people in the 70s at Calvary Chapel. All his stories were old. Years gone by. I asked the Lord why did He stop doing miracles. I didn't get that answer until 2007 when I heard about Lonnie for the first time amazingly. Strange how they could write him out of their history. I also found out that Lonnie would pray for people to receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit after they got saved. That was removed from the Calvary Chapel tradition too, and thus the Holy Spirit wasn't really welcome anymore or any of His manifestions that Chuck Smith felt were too weird. Now I know why the healings ended.
Maybe Chuck Smith realised that falling down and other behaviours of some Pentecostal gatherings are nowhere to be found in the Bible. He was correct. Prove this wrong from scripture.
@@nwofoe2866 since you think you need the Bible to prove the reality of God moving, I'll give it to you. Paul fell down when he encoutered Jesus on the road to Damascus. People who think that falling down in the spirit is demonic will read that passage and insert a horse to portray that he must have fallen FROM something. But there is no horse in the story. As a matter fact it says his companions led him by hand after that. If there was a horse, they would have put him on the horse and led the horse. When Paul recounts his experience later he says that he and his companions all fell down. Same thing happened when the mob came to arrest Jesus in the garden. If you need the actual verses I can look them up. The bottom line is that Jesus said you will know a tree by it's fruit. You are supposed to look at the fruit of any situation to determine whether it was of God, not a church doctrine which, according to Jesus, many doctrines are off. He was constantly revuking the pharisees who thought they had it right. The same pharisitical spirit exists in churches today. Nothing new there. But you are supposed to look at the fruit. The fruit that I have seen of people that had radical encounters with God that involved falling down has been to be more sold out for God. You might even be surprised to know that both Greg Lauri and Mike Macintosh both fell down in the spirit when they got saved. For Greg Lauri it happend at at high school christian club that he got saved and fell down in the spirit. Nobody pushed him. Mike Macinstosh said in his book "For the Love of Mike " that after he went forward for the alter call, Lonnie Frisbeen brought everyone into a room to pray over them for the baptism of the Holy Spirit and when Lonnie got to him and touched him he fell down and went into a vision. Sound familiar to Paul? Even though these leaders through Calvary Chapel got saved that way, they condemned it later because of Chuck.
@@shalom968 I first visited Calvary Chapel in 1970 but shortly afterwards was drafted into the U.S. Army for three years, two and a half years overseas. I had met Chuck Smith very briefly around October 1970, walking with him across the parking lot and asking him his opinion of the Vietnam war. He gave me a brief reply I will keep private here. I do wish he had spoken more about that crime in those years. Another subject to which I have become very sensitive has been the odd (to me) tendency of some top CC leaders to become cops after what they had done previously. Odin Fong and Mike MacIntosh come to mind, and other leaders supporting these crooks wholeheartedly. Believe me, I speak from very serious Government background here at higher levels. As for the falling down, look - what took place in the Book of Acts could have been virtually anything. It may not have been a Pentecostal-type falling down, such as you can find on many YT videos where ridiculous behaviors are displayed at Pentecostal churches (people running around, etc.). Tell you what - people can fall down all over the place as far as I am concerned, or not, just so long as they don't prostitute themselves out to some of the world's most cunning criminals and avail themselves to others in the faith without feeling that their church's "distinctives" make them more correct or whatever. This is a beat-up world and I speak from long and intense involvement with it.
@@shalom968 Brilliant! Thank you so much for that. I always thought he fell off a horse and I told the story to others that way too. Thanks to you I now know this is just a tradition of man. Now I see clearly that falling down by the power of God IS in the bible! I used to be a bit anti charismatic and thought falling down was fake or forced but I changed my mind when me and my daughter experienced it personally and have seen the tremendous fruit from the people and ministries that have a strong anointing. For you that don't believe, just come out on the street with a certain anointed one and see people saved, set free, healed and delivered on a daily basis. This is REAL and God has been pouring out His spirit all over the USA more and more the past few months! Don't miss out on this move of God! He's doing a new thing! And He's raising up a Youth Army that all move with the power of the Holy Spirit, not just a few anointed leaders like in the past.
@@vangrosh that's awesome! Yes, God is doing wonderous new things. Greater works will you do! Praise God for what He is doing in the youth. My heart goes out to them for the things they are enduring. May an army rise up of endtime warriors who know their God. The same spirit who raised Jesus from the dead lives inside of us!
I haven't heard of this man. I'll look at the link.
Thanks so much for exposing Norman.