The All New Pi800 Is A Full Fledged Fast Arm Based Desktop PC In A Keyboard!
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- The new OrangePi800 runs Manjaro Linux like a Boss! This Keyboard is actually an All-in-one Arm-based PC Just like the Raspberry Pi400 But with a faster CPU and Built-in eMMC Storage, It has Android 12 support along with Arch Linux, Ubuntu, and Manjaro Linux! Orange Pi 800 Mini PC 4GB RAM 64GB EMMC Rockchip RK3399 SoC 4K HD 64-Bit Dual-Band Wireless Wifi+BT 5.0 Portable AIO Keyboard PC.
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00:00 Introduction
00:17 Overview
01:39 Pi800 Specs
02:24 Pi800 Manjaro Linux Testing
05:29 UA-cam Video Playback Pi800
07:20 Emulation and Game testing
08:54 Final thoughts
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Truth to be told, I would buy a Pi 800 because it looks solid.
Just wish they'd actually ship it with 8GB of RAM as it is called 800.
When it Initially was announced that was my first thought.
I was thinking that too since it's called 800. However, I did some research and the RK3399 unfortunately only can support up to 4GB of RAM.
The RK3399 only supports 4GB of ram, Rockchip has made their 35 series with the RK3566, RK3568 and RK3588 which supports up to 8GB (The RK3588 up to 32GB) but those SOCs are in early stages of development to support linux and android by manufactures. Hope to see those new SOCs soon running stable.
I thought the same, unfortunate considering how cheap ram is right now
I'm waiting on an RK3588 version. A76 runs circles around A72. It's like the difference between D525 Atom and an N4000 Atom.
"They did take a lot from the Pi400." - Understatement of the year.
Yeah, it's a blatant, poorly supported Chinese knockoff
In the future they will make a super pc with 32g Ram, Octa Core and 4TB drive ALL inside an Xbox controller
Man I hope so.
@@nRuaif he meant something that can run games not Android lol
The Ultimate Plug n Play
I mean, we technically have that with the RK3588
I can do it for you bud
This looks like a really cool machine. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on this bad boy 👍
Hey ETA your content always gets better! Thanks for making so many videos.
If they keep getting better and better these little SBC will be quite handy and convenient to have around if only for various quick tasks and odd jobs.
Nice! 👍
Thanks Prime!
I'm always wary when I hear that certain software isn't ready yet. Certain Orange products have years after their release still only limited support.
Looking forward to more content on this!
🤪👍👍🖐 Your videos about Pi800 are really interesting! I even recommended the previous one to the viewers of my small channel. Well done! I hope we will see more about Pi800 soon and other similar devices! Also comparision between Pi400 and Pi800 would be welcome. 🤪👍👍🖐
Thanks!!!!!! I love you ETA
Very cool! I hope to soon see some laptops with Rockchip 35## chips.
I already have a Pinebook Pro and it's brilliant. I know that it's an RK3399 rather than RK35xx but the RK3399 right now is far more open source friendly.
Headphone Jack and full size hdmi. nice.
Ooooohh I love it. I use manjaro with my s22 ultra. Also with screen mirror.
This is pretty cool, there are some keyboards that double as usb-c hubs on Amazon that are similarly priced and don't offer the PC functionality.
I love your vids mate. Very well laid out and exactly the info I need. I was wondering if oyu get a chance could you attempt to do a video on converting a android tablet into a linux desktop. Always wondered how good one of the samsung tab's would run as a linux desktop accompanied by the keyboard .
surprised your pixio monitor works. the power supply for mine blew up after 28 days and i found out only the lcd panel is covered under their warranty.
really want orange to release the 5 to see how it is, would like to buy something this winter.
Jesus Christ man, you been reading my mind?! I've been looking for Orange Pi 4 LTS videos lately (mostly for building a retro gaming devide), but watching anything related. Nice to see Manjaro working fine, emulation too :D
If Armbian is working, its trivial to make Manjaro working.
oh snap! yay. thank you ETA Prime
Was hoping you were going to also demonstrate the accessibility features for zooming in, and enlarging text for us low vision users. Thanks for the demo.
Can you try box86 and dxvk with wine on raspberry Pi?
Rpi4 gpu doesnt have the features for real dxvk usage
It looks ok, with a nice value for the system, guess I'll still wait to see how good the Android OS is for gaming.
Looking forward to the Android OS video.
Nice review. Apart from the sound flickering in emulators (which might be fixed with just configuration) what other things preventing you from calling it "ready to use", rather than keep saying "its not quite ready yet"?
Can't say much about the technical side of the machine, but: I just love _how_ much they 'cloned' the whole case from the Pi 400, apart from the ports at the back - even the air vents at the bottom are _almost_ the same, in the same angle, only mirrored - just to have something to point at in court, I guess, should they ever have to: "See, that here, that's not the same..." 😁
raspberry would have to defend themselves against the amiga and commodore among others then. putting a pc in a keyboard is not something raspberry did first,nor is it something they own a copyright to. raspberry people are worse than apple people.
Have watched some other video on Manjaro. It seems like a really good version of Linux.
I wonder if windows 11 arm and be installed there , or SteamOS
Manjaro, nice.
I use it every day on all my machines :)
I'm using XFCE as my desktop as you mentioned it.
It's simple and clean.
Do not waste resources with Plasma or Gnome on that small machine.
I am a big fan of Manjaro on ARM.
Your subs are on the right side, you should call it OPI 800 ETA.
this looks awesome, but i think i'll hold out for a Key Lime Pi
Awesome little device. If possible see if you can clone and build Xonotic on it and what frame rate it plays at.
I would love to see how flash point runs on this, may be show it in a small section of the android image video
Mac and Windows user - looks cool to hook up to an older monitor - want to use Linux or Android - is the option to use these on the Orange Pi website? New to these kind of OS. Great video - keep up the good work
At first thought it have 8GB of ram, I'll stick with my 400 running Ubuntu Mate 22.04.
Though the Orange does look nice.
Shouldn't getting the OS to the eMMC just be an issue of using "dd" to copy from SD to eMMC and then updating the boot?
Ahoy & thanks for the OPi800 vids. I ordereed one of these on Amazon on 10/14. I have been using a NanoPi M4 with the RK3399 for a year. I first ran Android 8 then got Android 11 on a 32G eMMC module. It flies! I hope it will run the same on this computer. Also knowing the maintainer of the RK3399 Armbian I suspect we'll soon have an adaption of that distro.
Two Questions:
Can I replace XFCE with LXDE on Ubuntu or Manjaro? With my RPi roots I prefer that desktop and I've done that on Armbian.
Have you tried to boot from USB? I have a spare 250 G SSD that would speed this up over uSD cards.
One tip: on eBay I ordered some USB-C to Barrel Connectors adapters for power. Plug it in USB-C once, plug and unplug at will. I do the same with my micro usb connectors. Saves wear&tear and I can use many different power supplies that way.
Thanks for your videos. I watch them daily. daveyb
can you do a video of pixel 7 or 7 pro emulation to see if it made a bigger improvement than the 6 or 6 pro
How the cooling compares to the Pi400?
This would be great for a person who plays only retro games
Maybe the Raspberry pi people will make a pi5 sooner now . I'm thinking of buying this.
@ETA PRIME: you can probably fix the audio buzz by increasing the audio buffer size, either in the emulator, or in pulseaudio.
Wait, why is it incompatible with emmc? I got my orangepi running the dietpi of the emmc compiled with dietpi script.
There is a emmc installation script somewhere in the orangepi distro. You can find a video on it on the orange pi youtube chanel. It is as easy as to run one script.
It would be interesting to compare Orange Pi 800 and Raspberry Pi 400 and their performance
the orange has more powerful hardware and the raspberry has better software support. it's not interesting, it's very well documented and known.
@@jmwintenn Better hardware with poor software support results in lower performance than Raspberry Pi, but really?
@@ElPokoLokoYou Performance wise - Pi800 better.
If I click on the alibaba link on the orangepi website, I cant purchase it. Is it cause I live in Germany? :(
I wonder if OrangePi has upped their game on software development. They used to desing board after board but their software update cycle was non-existent. Communities like Armbian made their boards usable while OrangePis own releases were sometimes even harmful for the board.
Orange Pi boards depends on Armbian to be fully usable and there's no Armbian for Orange Pi 800.
ETA ! You have to try Plasma or any other Wayland based Desktop on it. Wayland Desktops perform way better on those ARM based comuters - adleast it worked for Me on my Raspberry Pi 4 and Khadas Edge. I just wonder will Orange Pi800 have similar boost.
Imagine if they added a num pad with an SSD slot
Dear Santa
I want this but thinner, and able to output a signal to the Xreal Air glasses with no adaptor. Mostly for writing and media consumption. Thaaaaanks.
Only if we had none apple chips as powerful as there silicone chips. They be very powerful and be able to fit in this keyboard
How you install Redream on OrangePi 800. I can only find x86_64 version for linux, no arm64?
This might be a dumb question, but I’m curious if I can plug this into my pc and use this as a normal usb keyboard? It would be a neato trick, the worlds smartest keyboard. 😊
Do a poll. How many of your 1m subscribers actually own an sbc?
How is the emulation prowess compared to the Pi400 ? Is it on par ? Better ? ... I am quite interested in the Pi800, but as always with Pi alternatives, the community is tiny, and the emulation world kind of never look at it. Could you try Batocera ? Lakka ?
Would you recommend waiting for the next version of this device or to just get this one?
dude, orange pi os seems interesting. windows 11 look and feel. just heard about it today
Any chance on a demo of OpenCV on an Orange Pi 800?
Yo ETA, love the videos. Hoping you would consider or maybe guide me where I can find some benchmarks for things like Office 365, Open Office and Day to Day workloads (emails, Teams, Zoom, etc). Things like these can help improve the situation in various workloads in the country where I live and my family's business.
It seems to be a more powerful Pi400 just with only 4GB on ram which is still fine but would work for all of those tasks you mentioned perfectly especially as RPis seem to be in short supply and increased price due to shortages, I would suggest Android instead though as the os as performance would improve.
@@bnbnism Android is good OS but not enough for work I thing we need a version android with multi window.
@@phongkyvo4383 the latest version 13 supports that I think even 12 does and it supports office,zoom,teams and more I use an Android tablet using a different version of Android 12 with those features works great for those.
Just asking eta is that orange more powerful than those smart watches.?
How do you think this would do for some basic video editing on openshot or shotcut?
How did you update manjaro? I tried to update through GUI and after it finishes it wont boot to SD card anymore… I also tried updating through terminal and somehow my SD card got corrupted
I am trying to run the pi 800 with the Orca screen reader. What do you think?
kb
How did you manage to install it from an microSd card? I flashed the image (xfce) from the official homepage of manjaro to my microSd card which worked, but inserting it in the pi 800 didn’t do anything. Then I tried flashing the image you can find at the download section on the Orange pi homepage, that started booting after inserting it, but stopped after a while and I got a bunch of failures.
How did you do it?
So, Which OSes for the Orange Pi support using Mate as the primary desktop UI?
Maybe a weird thought, but I keep hoping for one of these devices to support upgrading RAM. I know that wouldn't be an SoC then, but I don't care. I just want to see an ARM device, that's not a Mac, that is designed more like a proper desktop to see what they could do.
Maybe a loooong shot, but there's a German open hardware laptop called MNT Reform which uses SoCs with upgradable ram, and storage, you can also change the batteries without any fuzz, etc etc.
hope it comes in 8 gigs of ram
So I see your affiliate link to it, what I don't see is the cool looking mouse. It doesn't come with one, right? So do you have a link for the white/orange mouse?
On Firefox, does enabling Vaapi and forcing GPU acceleration improve the video performance to the point where it can do 4k?
Rockchip chipsets use RKVDEC for video decoding on Linux, so it probably will never have hardware decoding on browsers.
Is it possoble to run somethimg like Batocera on it; what kind of performance could be expected?
I have a question and I’m curious, can you run Cromore os on the raspberry pi?
Will Endless OS install on a Orange pi 800 considering that it is the same chipset as the Pinebook Pro?
Is it possible to put raspian on this unit.
I'm not tech savvy at all, but I like to follow your vids but the tech seem like it's all the same specs a cell phone would have?
did he try to run the emulator though the desktop if so idk if this would help but try installing retropie or lakka as the os and try out the emulation again cause i tried retroarch once though the desktop and there were graphical glitches in it but using another os like retropie or lakka fixed it
How about Android 13?
Unfortunately Collabora wants to remove the experimental Vulkan driver for the RK3399 (reverse engineering Vulkan on the RK3399 seems to be a mess). I'd love to see emulation with Vulkan on the RK3399.
Collabora ?
@@TheKetsa Alyssa Rosenzweig, employee of Collabora. Search for: panvk Drop support for Midgard
@@TheKetsa Developers behind critical components. Manjaro is not developing anything.
Can i try capcut video editing here?
Hey, I've Seen This One!
EMMC? How about UFS?
Can it run retroarch ?
Why not trying Blissos?
Can i install ubuntu 22.10 and use it for vscode golang?
Will this run Retro OrangePi?
Thanks for your video. I have one sample since a week and done some tests on it but Orange Pi OS is not 100% my dream system. Gonna try Manjaro, but I do not know for the moment how to install systems on eMMC, which is 3 times faster than the Sandisk Extreme... Regarding the perfs, I measured something in par with the Raspi Pi400, so not a huge deal except the Pi800 is available!
Argh! After an updat "sudo pacman -Syyu" the boot partition is erased and the Pi800 cannot boot the Manjaro SDCard...
Update to death is Manjaro classic ;) Preinstalled variant is also Manjaro, just with Orangepi branding.
Too bad I can't find it in Europe. In a few weeks perhaps.
A beautifull little computer ! But it’s rather dommage to not test the Chrome Flex Os version . Perhaps a new way to access to Chrome Os at low price !
You keep saying this is faster than a Pi400, but is it really? The Pi400 has four A72 cores at 1.8GHz, while this has only two of those plus four slower A53 cores. Don't think it's quite as cut and dried as all that.
This is kinda what I was thinking
I really want to love these computers but something about them being built into the keyboard urks me!
The 3.5 mm audio jack is a must have.
Altough you seemed to forget to mention it at 1:30
some people have eyes
@@6QG2P9X77W but he was reading out the specs, he missed that one.
Besides, maybe it's not a 3.5mm audio jack, there are other audio ports which look similar.
Does this kind of PC has any advantage over a small Thin and Light laptop?
It's probably cheaper than it. Depends on which thin and light laptop.
@@123ftw1 Even the lowest end thin and lights with a x86 cpu will have better specs than this. Plus you don't need a seperate monitor for it. I really don't understand the appeal!
they should do this with a cpu that is capable of running 4k and no flaws - it wont ever be a true gaming system, however should be ok with game pass
would be better also if they had 1tb storage in it with a more premium design - its better to pay a bit more for everything being better
can u pls try overwatch 2 on steam deck or aya neo
So all these SBC's you need a monitor with speakers?
Yes. Since the keyboard is the computer, all you need is an external monitor or a lapdock, that's it.
$99 and add $25 for delivery here in Switzerland... is delivery also that expensive in your country ??
that was fast
So, for emulation and maybe old dos games, which would you recommend - the Pi 800 or the RPI 400?
Well you get ready Made Images for the pi400 Just for Emulation. This thing could do the Same but since the Community is small it will Take time until someone adapt those Things to this Board.
@@worldsendace Probably you can run things stand alone. Up to PSP is doable with mainline Linux. I tried to get the experimental Vulkan driver working on the RK3399, but other than VKCube it fails on my Pinebook Pro with Manjaro (KDE Wayland).
I’ve not done much DOS on the Pi400 (too much faffing required), but with Batocera it does a good job of a slew of old systems, including Dreamcast.
@@CraigGrannell batocera can also Run dos games. Runs pretty well. ;-) you have Just to write a start stript Like a batch File. Its simply Just Like start XYZ.exe or try a distro Like dosbian. It simply Boots to a dos prompt and you can even Install Windows 3.11 or Windows 95. ;-) its Like a 468 or pentium PC.
@@worldsendace I have DOS running. But I can’t be bothered messing around with configs and such. I’d prefer things just work, which is why I ended up using Batocera in the first place (vs RetroPie).
For the price I think I'll just stick with Dex.
I like the idea of this but even for hobbyists use, it be cheaper to just make your own Pi keyboard.
These are okay boards. For general purpose and education it's fine. But i believe now it's time to explore the new areas where these SBC Systems needs to compete more with higher quality parts and accessories.
I mean think about it.
Having a pocket size pc or pc shaped with keyboard, atleast having 8-16 cores chip capable of everything whatever our mobile phones do(flagship ones). With proper warrenty and support, these companies can bring the whole new meaning to poor students and people who can't buy expensive pcs.
Give proper warrenty and support. Parts which can be self repaired. Guides and proper OS support for multiple purposes like editing and gaming. Explore all these kinds of areas where customer gets the chance to meet their expectations.
Waiting for that day when I'll be personally test all these kinds of pc with proper usable software and capable hardware.
Till then these are okay configuration.
Try arx libertatis, open morrowind, mario 64 pc port and ship of harkinian
Can I run Plex on this bad boy?
Thanks for sharing, ETA Prime - is this, or perhaps will this, unit able to boot from the USB 3.0?