@1:51:09 Just above your hand in the video, there's a loose screw resting on the motherboard's RGB panel. It stays there until you lift the case and it rolls into oblivion. I hope you were able to retrieve it. If someone in chat already brought it to your attention, please disregard this message. Great video, btw.
@@jeremytinethat's being genuine lol, amd is a pos company too and does shady shit, the difference between amd and nvidia is their fanboys defend anticompetitive practices
was fun to watch! About to build my first gaming PC on Friday this week and honestly can't wait. After watching a bunch of your reviews I finally pulled the trigger and bought all the parts! Thanks for all the videos!
@@boobafett- yup finished building it a couple days ago. Went really well! Took me 4 hours but I finished lol. Some issues with the case and my AIO but other than that the build is great 👍
Massive Congrats Tim!! 👏 🎉 I put together a 3D V-Cache system recently too and let's just say, good call. I really enjoy mine and hope the same goes for you. Cheers 🍻
@AdrianMuslim mine does and everyone I know does. I finally got 14900k and new motherboard and have no drops. I9 does not go up as high in fps as amd but the 1% lows are a lot better.
Setting RGB to red gives +10% FPS, while setting it to blue gives +10% cooling. Rainbow puke provides a nice balance between the two. Smart choice, Tim.
Very nice build. I've been running a similar setup since 7800X 3D came out with a Tuf 4090. It's very fast but also very power efficient. I am also using the Gsync Ultimate version of the Alienware QD-OLED monitor. Found one at Micro Center for $800 open box had to get it.
@@IRaoulDuke No, with al these unoptimized games coming out, it's 4k rendering life span isn't going to last as long as you think on max settings. Anyways for spending so much money on a gpu like that, you'd be well off to have this as a long term max settings 1440p card with high fps(instead of 4k) but yk it's still very capable for 4k on games rn.
This was a really fun stream. Enjoyed it. Really nice looking case, definitely lost of room. And the colors of the components and case all go well together. The RGB also not being overwhelming is nice to see. I always love building PCs right up until the dreaded Windows installation. Man I wish more games supported/worked on Linux (looking at you Bungie). Observation: Interesting thing, I made a joke in the chat about it being a Let's Game It Out video. I know there was a reply to it, but the reply got deleted. Unlike Twitch chat replay, if a comment is deleted during the stream on UA-cam, it never shows up in the replay. Which is unfortunate because I only caught the first part before it went away.
Hey Tim, great vid. I have the same Sabrent cooler, but its black with a copper colour logo. I had a headache installing it too, but figured it out eventually. Thanks Steve, for the humour in the chat.
Would LOVE to see a follow up video, where you take this build and upgrade it to a full open custom waterloop - GPU waterblock (the dual active back plates look amazing), CPU waterblock, and a PCIe5 M.2 waterblock, on a single D5 pump with two 420mm radiators. A step by step video, which we could follow at home, would be incredibly useful, and the huge advantages of water cooling (quieter, less power, high thermal headroom, greater stability, longer hardware shelf life, better looking if you use acrylic RGB blocks and transparent tubing) are very attractive!
7800X3D + 4090 is supposed to be the best combo for VR games and VRChat. But the latest adrenaline driver update was supposed to fix some of the VR problems Radeon was having. I wonder what’s better for vr now, the 4090 or the 7900XTX?
Sadly AMD has bad decoding if you have wireless VR like Quest 2, even when the graphics are maxed out and you have 120 fps it looks really bad, especially in fast-moving games. A sold my 6950 xt today and bought a 4090, all horrible artifacts are gone, I read about bad decoding before buying the 6950 but did not believe it, a horrible mistake.. But if you have wired VR, AMD is probably a much better price/performance, Nvidia is just disgustingly expensive, absolutely only buy if you play wireless VR or love RT.
Pro tip, Don't install RAM that requires exerting pressure on the board while the board is not fully supported. Install it on the Mobo tray or even better on a hard flat surface. Pressing down like that while the board isn't fully supported can over flex the board and crack solder joints. I've been building PC's for almost 30 years, 10 years of that professionally, and I built probably hundreds the same way out of laziness - only 3 ever had the problem but believe me once you've eaten the cost of a third £500-800 board just moving the box out of the way seems like a good investment.
High end doesn't really have to be that expensive. You can get a system with pretty much the same specs for under 3k if you switch all the ANUS branded parts for other brands, don't go for a 10G lan board and don't get a pcie 5.0 SSD all of which make no difference when gaming.
I built a 7950x+4080 build last January and legit was staying hungry for a few months afterwards. Had $150 for groceries each month for like 5 months and that was it. Cyberpunk and rdr2 was never sexier though. Granted i also fronted my friend to build a 13900k+4080 streaming build on the basis he'd pay me installments each month. honestly thats how i was able to affort to eat. Everything else i make ends up going to bills. Or my cats lol. Im glad the rough patch is over and i can enjoy my rig. Its almost a year old and it feels brand new still.
A man after my own heart, i have a machine in my server rack that uses a iSCSI drive on my file server, powerful enough to drive in-home streaming to TVs at the quality in home streaming supports, but also where all of my games are installed so the rest of my machines can get updates from there. Sure now i have gigabit LAN, but before late 2020 4G internet was the only option, so the more data i can save by keeping things internal the better, this is why i also have a plex server that records local TV instead of downloading them using streaming services, we used to have satellite TV but the neighbor's tree became too big, and it was the push i needed to cut call cords. To be overly clear, its all legally recorded, local TV is actually pretty entertaining
the best thing about this or other combo 7800x3d with 7900xtx is, you hit 300+ fps in battlefield 2042. thats insane. The devs have made the game a bit more optimised in 128 player conquest since launch.
I have a 3080 FTW3 ULTRA OC +120core +800MEM 5800X3D 32GB ddr4 3200, is this all good together? I feel like I dont get good enough frame rates, I currently have a 1080P monitor for FPS gaming a 240HZ BenQ Dyac+ for the crazy no screen tearing, But I want a 1440P monitor larger or a 4K for playing WoW and other MMO and maybe some FPS gaming again, is my ram fast enough or do I need more ram or more faster ram or just faster or is this good enough?
Did you check if your RAM has thermal tape or paste? And if it doesn't, add it. RAM manufacturers haven't been adding thermal anything to their ram sticks, users need to do it themselves. *Drops the ram temps by upto -10C°*
@hardware unboxed I really enjoy watching you guys. I’m upgrading my build now from 10600k to a 14600k, msi z790, 6400 CL32 ddr5 ram and a new ssd. I know the new 14th gen is controversially stale, but it’s just a few $ difference where I am. I got a 3080 FE which I will keep for now due to the current prices and wait for refreshes or the next gen. A bit nervous about making my build myself and upgrading so these videos are helpful! Is it worth undervolting the cpu a bit to keep the thermals lower without losing performance in 4K? I got a dark rock pro 4 cooler.
man thats almost my build i just did 2 or 3 things diffrent. I went with the 7950x3d, and then did 64GB instead, and my last diffrince was the MEG Ai1300P.
As always love Hardware Unboxed content. Didn't see anyone post or comment about the thumbscrews for the Asus AIO. Are the thumbscrews interchangeable between AM4 and AM5? The Asus quick start guide shows one set of thumbscrews for AM5, 115x, 1200 and a different set of thumbscrews for AM4, 1700. The ones used in the video appear to be the AM4, 1700 set.
I'm here trying to build a $3K 4090 build rn. So far I got the 4090 FE ($1,600) and 2TB WD 850X ($80). For the CPU I'm looking to get the 7800X3D or 13900K. Either way I'm looking at around $1K for the CPU + MOBO + RAM combo. I'm not really saving much or not at all by going AMD so we'll see. I do like to have some production cores just in case I need it in the future but for the most part I will be gaming on it only.
@@dg7438 13900K. Decided that I wanted to use faster RAM @ 7800M/T vs 6000M/T. It's stable so that's all I care about. I ended up spending close to $4K. I'm glad I did it when I did tho cause some parts went up in price especially the GPU of course. You picked up an awesome GPU btw, hopefully you didn't spend an arm and a leg tho. 😊
@@volcalstone Oh, nice build! I forgot about that aspect, but I just want the overall Intel flexibility, so will get the 14900K. I scopped it up for $2100, new, open box. I think it's a good deal looking at the other prices 😲I didn't want to wait any longer. Happy gaming!
You know when I saw the title I thought you were building the pc fast, like a speed run. But now that I'm actually watching the video I've realized that you're building a fast pc, lol
The packaging that MSI sends for high-end motherboards resembles wedding favors. I use mine to hold screws, small cables and computer manuals, just to open it once in a while. I'm a little dumbfounded that I no longer see the two capacitors between the Ram and the CPU, which from the Unify to the X570-Ace Max we liked to recognize so much, but I don't think it's to save costs! Obviously they are no longer needed. If Msi Center worked as well as MSI motherboards, it would be the best software in the world! I'm also happy to see G.Skill memories, which I also chose for my AM4, I'm almost sure they are Samsung B-die too: truly a choice without compromises for quality. Mine work at 1.45V, which is not very little, but they deserve. The m2 sink is so shiny you have to close the windows. It is curious that despite being a very high quality heatsink, the Sabrent has a lesser known competitor that many times surpasses it, and it is the Acidalie, which has also been on the market for a long time and has a similar shape and materials. Maybe it's related to the fear for short circuits, but I don't understand why the standard heatsinks on the motherboards are made of aluminum, when an aluminum frame could be enough, possibly, to be able to make the body of copper. There are really nice cases on the market, but as long as a 1080 radiator, or a 1260 radiator, is enough for me, I don't think I'll abandon the benches, and even now, even if I had to assemble a Threadripper on top of an E-atx, I think I'd go for the old Thermaltake P5. But if a 1260 isn't enough and you need another 360 or 480, a case like this becomes a great option, even if, at my eyes, the View 71 remains very difficult to beat. Always nice to see the rear fan perfectly aligned with the motherboard vrm heatsinks... ...however maybe I'm writing too much! Compliments!
Well, the 7950x3d does. It has a higher clock and more cores. In case that doesn’t do it you can disable half its cores and it becomes a higher clocked 7800x3d. ;)
@ettepet9308 No it doesn't bcuz the thread scheduler is jank as shit and the 2nd DOES NOT pick up the windows bs like e cores do, it just shuts off when gaming. When it works properly it wins slightly when it doesn't it runs way worse, terrible trade off. U need MT and gaming, the 13900k clears it. Oh and btw, let me be clear if the 7950x3d had a thread scheduler as good as Intel's has come to be on windows 11, it'd basically be a better version in every way except price, but they have two chips with the technology, one very niche, one that also no one bought. Ofc intels is going to be way better but what the 7950x3d could be is not what it actually is.
@@Frozoken Afaik, if only the 3d cores are enabled (in the bios) it needs no special scheduler and it is faster. Hardware Unboxed has done many comparisons to this “simulated 7800x3d”. I need the 8 extra cores for other stuff than gaming hence for me it is the better choice. Also I game in 4K, not fhd, so its gaming performance is very comparable with any (current) competitor.
One thing I found out recently is you can setup with a Microsoft Account and then once in Windows just switch it back to a Local account. Was surprised this doesn't disable pin login either.
The iridescent heat spreader on that SSD doesn't look like it was designed to be effective in that sideways orientation? I think it might be more effective at dissipating heat in any of the other slots on that motherboard, although, I suppose it would still be at least slightly more effective than the standard heatsink that you removed from the motherboard...
I have Ryzen 5 5600 on b350 motherboard. I have ordered 7900 xtx to play on 4k LG c1 oled. Is it better for me to stick to this CPU, upgrade to Ryzen 5 5800x3d or change platform to AM5, Ryzen 7 7800x3d?
It took me two sessions, but I watched the whole thing. I think you could have taken an extra minute or two to actually READ the documentation on the Sabrent SSD heatsink and get it working. There is also the possibility that it simply would not work in THAT particular slot, but would work in the others. But, GOOD video. Very nice to chill while watching.
They should just put out the RX 7900 XT with 16GB of VRAM (4070ti is stuck at 12GB, so it would have been enough) and a lower pricepoint from the start.
Awesome build and great stream. Wonder what's the command to avoid connecting to a network during Windows setup. It was shared by someone in chat, but Tim didn't say exactly what it was, and we can't really see what he's typing.
I just built this PC but with different brands on the components hah, 4090 gamerock midnight kaleidoscope oc, 7800x3d, same ram, msi tomahawk wifi and noctua nh-u12a, fractal torrent compact. 2 x 1TB m.2, Win 11. I have a feeling my rig is half the price of this insane monster o_O!! I spent months finding the best deals for all the components, started on Black Friday with the torrent, and ended today with the 7800x3d :D I mostly play VR so I actually need the damned power of the thing. But Subnautica VR mod with my computer and a Quest 2 (soon Quest 3) is beyond any other experience.
In 2 years my Sabrent rocket 4 plus hasn’t run above 27C in my crosshair viii hero with main board heat shield. It’s 7300Mbs read 6600Mbs write , my WD sn850 runs at 47-50C both 2tb gen 4 drives
1:51:53 There was a loose screw, the comment was just worded poorly. I'd call it a rogue screw that rolled towards the back of the case when you lifted it. Edit: you got it LOL.
hi HU im thinking about going amd asus combination ( ryzen 7 7800x3d - asus rog strix b650e-e gaming wifi ) is it safe now with their currently new 1636 bios update or should i just go for something else ? im still not sure about that whole cpu exploding melting ...
Ah the luxury parts 😂 I have recently started and wanted to go thru every step you guys already passed aka have one L1200 Intel i3-10505f build with a 1650 Super and an AM4 platform w 5 5500 with RX580 8gb but am shopping a RX6600 8gb today for around $160. My aum is to finish the AM4 with the US micro center only 5600X3D. Check if a mate in the US office has the time to buy and send it. My final AM4 aim was of course the 7 5800X3D but will settle for $229 for the 5600X3D 😊
350 atm same upgrade I want to make I'm running 5800x atm and considering just going am5 with 7800x3d Your pretty well set though as a 4090 will pair well with 5800x3d in 1440p or higher . That being said Your upgrade path is good for years on am4
5000 USD = 7543.69 AUD, nice. In my last build I drilled out an area so I could mount the nvme into the motherboard correctly. You want to make sure that you clean up the heat sink so you don't introduce metal shavings to your build.
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@1:51:09 Just above your hand in the video, there's a loose screw resting on the motherboard's RGB panel. It stays there until you lift the case and it rolls into oblivion. I hope you were able to retrieve it. If someone in chat already brought it to your attention, please disregard this message. Great video, btw.
Haha yeah a few people pointed that out on stream, it was a rubber grommet which I found later in the stream
Still waiting for that 1v1 vs Steve, Tim.
Maby they will do it at 1m subs they are very close
Really like this guy. Genuine and honest, not a bad bone in his body. This was a great chill stream
I like the dude with moustaches more.
@@greggreg2458 You both like dudes, maybe you two should move in together.
i guess you missed the amd video where he insulted and was condescending
@@jeremytinethat's being genuine lol, amd is a pos company too and does shady shit, the difference between amd and nvidia is their fanboys defend anticompetitive practices
You don’t know bro that well to be able to tell that he doesn’t have a bad bone in his body 🤣🤣
Shopping and building is always the best part of the experience for me.
This man is so chill and he seems like a kind hearted person. Love this live stream.
was fun to watch! About to build my first gaming PC on Friday this week and honestly can't wait. After watching a bunch of your reviews I finally pulled the trigger and bought all the parts! Thanks for all the videos!
Have you built it already
@@boobafett- yup finished building it a couple days ago. Went really well! Took me 4 hours but I finished lol. Some issues with the case and my AIO but other than that the build is great 👍
@@oneNovember831what are the specs.
7800x3d will be remembered in 10 years like i still remember the glory days of gtx 780ti. What a BEAST.
so will the 5800X3d lol
no
@@wololo10 Would you like to elaborate on why that is?
@@wololo10yes 🤡
because old am4 will be uselss@@monkeyatschool99
Tim's so happy without the ball and chain. (Sorry, Steve.)
Massive Congrats Tim!! 👏 🎉 I put together a 3D V-Cache system recently too and let's just say, good call. I really enjoy mine and hope the same goes for you. Cheers 🍻
Do you get random FPS drops on 3D V-cache? The "AMDip" as people call it?
@@AdrianMuslimNo.
@AdrianMuslim mine does and everyone I know does. I finally got 14900k and new motherboard and have no drops. I9 does not go up as high in fps as amd but the 1% lows are a lot better.
Really enjoyed seeing you Tim! 7800X3D is such a excellent CPU, I've messed about a little with PBO and you can get a tidy little boost on it.
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Wow man, you deserve to go all out. That's freaking awesome! Looking forward to Zen 5 and beyond 💯 😃
Setting RGB to red gives +10% FPS, while setting it to blue gives +10% cooling. Rainbow puke provides a nice balance between the two. Smart choice, Tim.
many scientific studies have confirmed this
Setting it to green gives +10% skill
@@distorteduzi no green is increased power efficiency
I know it took forever but I loved watching this. What a great rig.
Very nice build. I've been running a similar setup since 7800X 3D came out with a Tuf 4090. It's very fast but also very power efficient. I am also using the Gsync Ultimate version of the Alienware QD-OLED monitor. Found one at Micro Center for $800 open box had to get it.
Isn't that overkill for 1440p?
@@IRaoulDukedldsr + ultrawide can get really demanding
@@IRaoulDuke No, with al these unoptimized games coming out, it's 4k rendering life span isn't going to last as long as you think on max settings. Anyways for spending so much money on a gpu like that, you'd be well off to have this as a long term max settings 1440p card with high fps(instead of 4k) but yk it's still very capable for 4k on games rn.
Hey that's the core parts of my build too! Nice work on the stream
that case is massive.
looks like it could rent in NY for 1500$/month
It's still small enough to fit inside my 900D 😂
This was a really fun stream. Enjoyed it. Really nice looking case, definitely lost of room. And the colors of the components and case all go well together. The RGB also not being overwhelming is nice to see. I always love building PCs right up until the dreaded Windows installation. Man I wish more games supported/worked on Linux (looking at you Bungie).
Observation: Interesting thing, I made a joke in the chat about it being a Let's Game It Out video. I know there was a reply to it, but the reply got deleted. Unlike Twitch chat replay, if a comment is deleted during the stream on UA-cam, it never shows up in the replay. Which is unfortunate because I only caught the first part before it went away.
Hey Tim, great vid. I have the same Sabrent cooler, but its black with a copper colour logo. I had a headache installing it too, but figured it out eventually. Thanks Steve, for the humour in the chat.
Would LOVE to see a follow up video, where you take this build and upgrade it to a full open custom waterloop - GPU waterblock (the dual active back plates look amazing), CPU waterblock, and a PCIe5 M.2 waterblock, on a single D5 pump with two 420mm radiators.
A step by step video, which we could follow at home, would be incredibly useful, and the huge advantages of water cooling (quieter, less power, high thermal headroom, greater stability, longer hardware shelf life, better looking if you use acrylic RGB blocks and transparent tubing) are very attractive!
You deserve it Tim 👍
Congrats Tim, I recently just finished building a gaming PC myself with a 13900K and 4090 FE, it's been very nice so far!
I5 cpu ?
@@kelechiaguocha1
No. The 13900K is an i9.
@@Flayrr872 thanks
couldn't see any of the wiring up as the case was in the wrong place. it started so well too
7800X3D + 4090 is supposed to be the best combo for VR games and VRChat. But the latest adrenaline driver update was supposed to fix some of the VR problems Radeon was having. I wonder what’s better for vr now, the 4090 or the 7900XTX?
Sadly AMD has bad decoding if you have wireless VR like Quest 2, even when the graphics are maxed out and you have 120 fps it looks really bad, especially in fast-moving games. A sold my 6950 xt today and bought a 4090, all horrible artifacts are gone, I read about bad decoding before buying the 6950 but did not believe it, a horrible mistake.. But if you have wired VR, AMD is probably a much better price/performance, Nvidia is just disgustingly expensive, absolutely only buy if you play wireless VR or love RT.
This guy is like the kryptonite to "gamer toxicity" in places like reddit etc. Honest, humble, kind ... nice change of pace watching this
Awesome as usual! You guys are my go-to content this past couple years.😊
NIce, I have the case, still in it's box. Can't wait to build in it. It kinda reminds me of the 700m.
Pro tip, Don't install RAM that requires exerting pressure on the board while the board is not fully supported. Install it on the Mobo tray or even better on a hard flat surface. Pressing down like that while the board isn't fully supported can over flex the board and crack solder joints. I've been building PC's for almost 30 years, 10 years of that professionally, and I built probably hundreds the same way out of laziness - only 3 ever had the problem but believe me once you've eaten the cost of a third £500-800 board just moving the box out of the way seems like a good investment.
oh god it gets worse. The RAM is not a handle my dude, don't lever on it so much or you're gonna break something.
"I won't have any money after this build", I felt that financially 😂
High end doesn't really have to be that expensive. You can get a system with pretty much the same specs for under 3k if you switch all the ANUS branded parts for other brands, don't go for a 10G lan board and don't get a pcie 5.0 SSD all of which make no difference when gaming.
Great video...I would have installed BIOS updates prior to installing windows.
Tim is such a humble/nice guy............just great
I built a 7950x+4080 build last January and legit was staying hungry for a few months afterwards. Had $150 for groceries each month for like 5 months and that was it.
Cyberpunk and rdr2 was never sexier though. Granted i also fronted my friend to build a 13900k+4080 streaming build on the basis he'd pay me installments each month. honestly thats how i was able to affort to eat. Everything else i make ends up going to bills. Or my cats lol.
Im glad the rough patch is over and i can enjoy my rig. Its almost a year old and it feels brand new still.
You did very well. Love your content. Keep up the great work. Sending love from Newcastle
I used the same Sabrent heatsink on my build and remember having difficulties figuring it out as well.
Just got my self the 7800X3D as well, probably pairing it with a 4080 or 7900xtx
A man after my own heart, i have a machine in my server rack that uses a iSCSI drive on my file server, powerful enough to drive in-home streaming to TVs at the quality in home streaming supports, but also where all of my games are installed so the rest of my machines can get updates from there.
Sure now i have gigabit LAN, but before late 2020 4G internet was the only option, so the more data i can save by keeping things internal the better, this is why i also have a plex server that records local TV instead of downloading them using streaming services, we used to have satellite TV but the neighbor's tree became too big, and it was the push i needed to cut call cords.
To be overly clear, its all legally recorded, local TV is actually pretty entertaining
the best thing about this or other combo 7800x3d with 7900xtx is, you hit 300+ fps in battlefield 2042. thats insane. The devs have made the game a bit more optimised in 128 player conquest since launch.
Hows your computer going a month in now? Any problems? Thinking to build with same cpu and graphic card.
Excellent video. I got the 4090 Strix OC as well, hands down quietest GFX card I have ever owned.
2:30:20 so excited about the build, forgets to plug in keyboard and mouse :D beautiful, i started crying
I have a 3080 FTW3 ULTRA OC +120core +800MEM 5800X3D 32GB ddr4 3200, is this all good together? I feel like I dont get good enough frame rates, I currently have a 1080P monitor for FPS gaming a 240HZ BenQ Dyac+ for the crazy no screen tearing, But I want a 1440P monitor larger or a 4K for playing WoW and other MMO and maybe some FPS gaming again, is my ram fast enough or do I need more ram or more faster ram or just faster or is this good enough?
I just built a similar system, would love a video for how you go about overclocking the CPU with the curve optimizer!
Did you check if your RAM has thermal tape or paste? And if it doesn't, add it. RAM manufacturers haven't been adding thermal anything to their ram sticks, users need to do it themselves. *Drops the ram temps by upto -10C°*
@hardware unboxed I really enjoy watching you guys. I’m upgrading my build now from 10600k to a 14600k, msi z790, 6400 CL32 ddr5 ram and a new ssd. I know the new 14th gen is controversially stale, but it’s just a few $ difference where I am.
I got a 3080 FE which I will keep for now due to the current prices and wait for refreshes or the next gen.
A bit nervous about making my build myself and upgrading so these videos are helpful!
Is it worth undervolting the cpu a bit to keep the thermals lower without losing performance in 4K? I got a dark rock pro 4 cooler.
@HardwareUnboxed I noticed on your setup you chose to run AMD Expo, is it now safe to use without worry ???
Beautiful, but one lacking component. Why no gen 5 M.2?
Super jealous on your new system. I really want the 7800x3d, but likely wait for the next generation.
I'll wait for next-gen so I can get the 7800X3D for the price of a 7700x 🤣🤣🤣
man thats almost my build i just did 2 or 3 things diffrent. I went with the 7950x3d, and then did 64GB instead, and my last diffrince was the MEG Ai1300P.
As always love Hardware Unboxed content. Didn't see anyone post or comment about the thumbscrews for the Asus AIO. Are the thumbscrews interchangeable between AM4 and AM5? The Asus quick start guide shows one set of thumbscrews for AM5, 115x, 1200 and a different set of thumbscrews for AM4, 1700. The ones used in the video appear to be the AM4, 1700 set.
I'm here trying to build a $3K 4090 build rn. So far I got the 4090 FE ($1,600) and 2TB WD 850X ($80).
For the CPU I'm looking to get the 7800X3D or 13900K. Either way I'm looking at around $1K for the CPU + MOBO + RAM combo. I'm not really saving much or not at all by going AMD so we'll see. I do like to have some production cores just in case I need it in the future but for the most part I will be gaming on it only.
What CPU did you end up w/? I just bought a Strix RTX 4090 OC
@@dg7438 13900K. Decided that I wanted to use faster RAM @ 7800M/T vs 6000M/T. It's stable so that's all I care about. I ended up spending close to $4K. I'm glad I did it when I did tho cause some parts went up in price especially the GPU of course. You picked up an awesome GPU btw, hopefully you didn't spend an arm and a leg tho. 😊
@@volcalstone Oh, nice build! I forgot about that aspect, but I just want the overall Intel flexibility, so will get the 14900K. I scopped it up for $2100, new, open box. I think it's a good deal looking at the other prices 😲I didn't want to wait any longer. Happy gaming!
I love Hardware Unboxed Team ❤❤
But, Tim, why msi mainboard...??? 🤔😉😜
Regards from Germany ✌️
You know when I saw the title I thought you were building the pc fast, like a speed run. But now that I'm actually watching the video I've realized that you're building a fast pc, lol
yeah im using quicksync to play videos instead, to make it less painful
Love the Meg Ace motherboards. ENJOY!
Where is the benchmark test mate
Nothing better for background chill when new PC fans arrive :P sing-along PC building! 7800x3D here as well, now all I lack is the graphics card... :D
The packaging that MSI sends for high-end motherboards resembles wedding favors.
I use mine to hold screws, small cables and computer manuals, just to open it once in a while.
I'm a little dumbfounded that I no longer see the two capacitors between the Ram and the CPU, which from the Unify to the X570-Ace Max we liked to recognize so much, but I don't think it's to save costs! Obviously they are no longer needed. If Msi Center worked as well as MSI motherboards, it would be the best software in the world!
I'm also happy to see G.Skill memories, which I also chose for my AM4, I'm almost sure they are Samsung B-die too: truly a choice without compromises for quality. Mine work at 1.45V, which is not very little, but they deserve.
The m2 sink is so shiny you have to close the windows. It is curious that despite being a very high quality heatsink, the Sabrent has a lesser known competitor that many times surpasses it, and it is the Acidalie, which has also been on the market for a long time and has a similar shape and materials.
Maybe it's related to the fear for short circuits, but I don't understand why the standard heatsinks on the motherboards are made of aluminum, when an aluminum frame could be enough, possibly, to be able to make the body of copper.
There are really nice cases on the market, but as long as a 1080 radiator, or a 1260 radiator, is enough for me, I don't think I'll abandon the benches, and even now, even if I had to assemble a Threadripper on top of an E-atx, I think I'd go for the old Thermaltake P5. But if a 1260 isn't enough and you need another 360 or 480, a case like this becomes a great option, even if, at my eyes, the View 71 remains very difficult to beat.
Always nice to see the rear fan perfectly aligned with the motherboard vrm heatsinks...
...however maybe I'm writing too much!
Compliments!
Bro you had me biting my nails @1:13:08 when you were holding motherboard and I'm looking at you bending those ram sticks... lol. Nice build though.
Putting that chip on that motherboard is like washing 1 sock on a heavy duty cycle.
I thought you had to remove the labels on the SSD prior to installing the heatsinks so the thermal pad contacts the NAND and Controllers directly.
Nothing beats a 7800X3D when it comes down to 1% lows in CPU limited scenarios.
Well, the 7950x3d does. It has a higher clock and more cores. In case that doesn’t do it you can disable half its cores and it becomes a higher clocked 7800x3d. ;)
@ettepet9308 No it doesn't bcuz the thread scheduler is jank as shit and the 2nd DOES NOT pick up the windows bs like e cores do, it just shuts off when gaming. When it works properly it wins slightly when it doesn't it runs way worse, terrible trade off. U need MT and gaming, the 13900k clears it. Oh and btw, let me be clear if the 7950x3d had a thread scheduler as good as Intel's has come to be on windows 11, it'd basically be a better version in every way except price, but they have two chips with the technology, one very niche, one that also no one bought. Ofc intels is going to be way better but what the 7950x3d could be is not what it actually is.
@@Frozoken Afaik, if only the 3d cores are enabled (in the bios) it needs no special scheduler and it is faster. Hardware Unboxed has done many comparisons to this “simulated 7800x3d”.
I need the 8 extra cores for other stuff than gaming hence for me it is the better choice. Also I game in 4K, not fhd, so its gaming performance is very comparable with any (current) competitor.
@@ettepet9308 Yeah ur right on both points but why not just get a 7950x atp lmao
One thing I found out recently is you can setup with a Microsoft Account and then once in Windows just switch it back to a Local account. Was surprised this doesn't disable pin login either.
The iridescent heat spreader on that SSD doesn't look like it was designed to be effective in that sideways orientation? I think it might be more effective at dissipating heat in any of the other slots on that motherboard, although, I suppose it would still be at least slightly more effective than the standard heatsink that you removed from the motherboard...
Great configuration! But I don't like the case at all😆
Hi. Advice on a 4090 build for unreal engine rendering..intel 14900 or add something? Cheers
I have Ryzen 5 5600 on b350 motherboard. I have ordered 7900 xtx to play on 4k LG c1 oled. Is it better for me to stick to this CPU, upgrade to Ryzen 5 5800x3d or change platform to AM5, Ryzen 7 7800x3d?
It took me two sessions, but I watched the whole thing. I think you could have taken an extra minute or two to actually READ the documentation on the Sabrent SSD heatsink and get it working. There is also the possibility that it simply would not work in THAT particular slot, but would work in the others. But, GOOD video. Very nice to chill while watching.
This is pretty much my build. A monster indeed!
The build was neither crazy or fast but very cool😂....I couldn't sleep last night and it did the trick.
Awesome build ! Good job !
Great vid! I have a question, isn't that a PCIe Gen 4 SSD? Is there a reason a Gen 5 wasn't used?
They should just put out the RX 7900 XT with 16GB of VRAM (4070ti is stuck at 12GB, so it would have been enough) and a lower pricepoint from the start.
Love that Ryujin 3! I bought the 2 and then Asus released the 3 a month of two later...
3 hours of Tim? Yes please!
Awesome build and great stream. Wonder what's the command to avoid connecting to a network during Windows setup. It was shared by someone in chat, but Tim didn't say exactly what it was, and we can't really see what he's typing.
That motherboard is super overkill DAmn! And im still struggling to pick one
Do you like the case ?
The price of that PC where i live.. is a divorce!
Can you Tell me if you are using HDMI 2.1 or DP 1.4 for gaming?
I recommend 3Rsys RC1900 white (AMD AM5) for 7800x3d (AMD AM5)
The hardware circle of life.
Why do all these motherboards come with non working wifi drivers.
I just built this PC but with different brands on the components hah, 4090 gamerock midnight kaleidoscope oc, 7800x3d, same ram, msi tomahawk wifi and noctua nh-u12a, fractal torrent compact. 2 x 1TB m.2, Win 11. I have a feeling my rig is half the price of this insane monster o_O!! I spent months finding the best deals for all the components, started on Black Friday with the torrent, and ended today with the 7800x3d :D I mostly play VR so I actually need the damned power of the thing. But Subnautica VR mod with my computer and a Quest 2 (soon Quest 3) is beyond any other experience.
thanks Tim. Super Bladder - I would have had 3 breaks at least.
In 2 years my Sabrent rocket 4 plus hasn’t run above 27C in my crosshair viii hero with main board heat shield. It’s 7300Mbs read 6600Mbs write , my WD sn850 runs at 47-50C both 2tb gen 4 drives
Just realized that monitor unboxed and hardware unboxed are the same person
That case is a MONSTER my lord lol
Hell yea lets build PC's not many of us can afford. Great.
Because building a run-of-the-mill PC = crazy fast gaming PC.
Take a shot every time Tim says "beefy" !
Thanks for the upload
Why I can not find 64GB kits on support RAM lists on every Mainboard I am looking for? 🤔
Im torn between tachi or msi carbon, which one is better?
Hot damn Tim that’s a beefy PC , better than mine!!! I’m running the 4090 tuf gaming OC with the 5800x3d, debating upgrading to the 13700k
The 7800x3d paired with a 7900xtx red devil is potentially better, depending on whether the game can use the 3d cache or not.
The case is half Tim's size lol. Not that Tim is small but the case is gigantic!
1:51:53 There was a loose screw, the comment was just worded poorly. I'd call it a rogue screw that rolled towards the back of the case when you lifted it.
Edit: you got it LOL.
i will say, this case is meant to showcase the OLED screen on their ROG power supplies... next time tim :P
The Asus Pro Art X670E Wifi Creator has dual 10Gb and 2.5Gb NICs and is £470.00 here in the UK at Amazon.
hi HU im thinking about going amd asus combination ( ryzen 7 7800x3d - asus rog strix b650e-e gaming wifi ) is it safe now with their currently new 1636 bios update or should i just go for something else ?
im still not sure about that whole cpu exploding melting ...
Gaming ssd? When is the next gaming ram coming out?
Ah the luxury parts 😂 I have recently started and wanted to go thru every step you guys already passed aka have one L1200 Intel i3-10505f build with a 1650 Super and an AM4 platform w 5 5500 with RX580 8gb but am shopping a RX6600 8gb today for around $160. My aum is to finish the AM4 with the US micro center only 5600X3D. Check if a mate in the US office has the time to buy and send it. My final AM4 aim was of course the 7 5800X3D but will settle for $229 for the 5600X3D 😊
350 atm same upgrade I want to make
I'm running 5800x atm and considering just going am5 with 7800x3d
Your pretty well set though as a 4090 will pair well with 5800x3d in 1440p or higher . That being said
Your upgrade path is good for years on am4
5000 USD = 7543.69 AUD, nice.
In my last build I drilled out an area so I could mount the nvme into the motherboard correctly. You want to make sure that you clean up the heat sink so you don't introduce metal shavings to your build.