Harrower Class Dreadnought vs Valor Class Cruiser | Star Wars: Who Would Win

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  • Опубліковано 17 лип 2017
  • The two most powerful ships from Star Wars Legend's the Old Republic go head-to-head, with the Sith Empire's Harrower Class Dreadnought taking on the Republic's Valor Class Cruiser. Which one will survive the space battle?
    Special thanks to Star Wars: The Old Republic, for having some awesome trailers and cutscenes, as well, of course, as capital ships and space battles!
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  • @EckhartsLadder
    @EckhartsLadder  7 років тому +84

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    • @shadowfalcon7140
      @shadowfalcon7140 7 років тому +3

      EckhartsLadder exexutor super star destroyer vs mandator republic battleship.

    • @sageg58
      @sageg58 7 років тому +2

      EckhartsLadder Twilight vs. Slave 1

    • @supremegeneral2424
      @supremegeneral2424 7 років тому +2

      Providence class vs Victory 2 or Ajunta Pall vs Darth Zannah or The Profundity vs Chaf frigate

    • @jacenstarhunter8988
      @jacenstarhunter8988 7 років тому +1

      EckhartsLadder: I really wish I could bro, but I'm currently unemployed, sorry!

    • @Torchingale
      @Torchingale 7 років тому

      exeutor super star destroyer vs the eclipse

  • @danielkorladis7869
    @danielkorladis7869 3 роки тому +84

    The Valor, ironically, only really has a chance if it launches all its fighters and then retreats.

  • @citrusaviationhd5047
    @citrusaviationhd5047 7 років тому +418

    The Harrower looks better.

    • @CHEF-55457
      @CHEF-55457 4 роки тому +8

      Agreed.

    • @taka2721
      @taka2721 4 роки тому +13

      I personally prefer Valor

    • @j-lly_4117
      @j-lly_4117 3 роки тому +10

      Yes the most important and necessary factor of a ship 😂

    • @cheguevara7478
      @cheguevara7478 3 роки тому +1

      Valor looks like quasi-USS Enterprise

    • @That_Guy_Ty
      @That_Guy_Ty 3 роки тому +6

      @@taka2721 the valor reminds me more of like a space version of a cruise ship.

  • @hanjizoe2648
    @hanjizoe2648 7 років тому +82

    Dude the Valor class ship looks like Axiom from Wall-E XD

  • @yortsemloh1156
    @yortsemloh1156 3 роки тому +23

    The Harrower design would have been awesome for Rise of Skywalker. It’s my favorite ship in any sci-fi universe.

    • @Janoha17
      @Janoha17 3 роки тому +5

      The Harrower was also fitted with superweapons on at least three separate occasions. The forward hangars make an ideal place to put fleet or planet killers.

    • @michaelkeha
      @michaelkeha 7 місяців тому +2

      It would have been turned into a joke by that movie

  • @Paerigos
    @Paerigos 5 років тому +23

    And that is why Agent said to Darth Marr:
    If this was about technology - Empire would have won the war long ago.
    Marr: "Agreed"
    and to put it bluntly - If possitioned favourable - Harrower can direct its turbolasers with Saturation fire on at least half of Valor´s hangar bays when it attempts to lauch fighters- for significant amount of time cutting the Valors ability to launch fighers to half.
    (Stephen Caldwell strategy maneuver... One if utilized by Admiral Raddus would have likely saved far more ships of rebel Alliance over Scariff as he was in possition to wipe shieldbase´s figter complement but didn´t - would be quite lovely scene illustrating why tie defenders should be there and launch first to draw fire)
    "Hive is launching darts..."
    "Open up on those bays! All batteries"

  • @raulgeerman2273
    @raulgeerman2273 7 років тому +100

    Cis HYENA-BOMBER
    VS IMPERIAL TIE-BOMBER

    • @galadato7425
      @galadato7425 4 роки тому +5

      No competition,hyena win:faster,no crew,no need to escort...

    • @daleford8621
      @daleford8621 3 роки тому

      @@galadato7425 yep, is also much more maneuverable since it doesn't have a bio pilot. It can pull more g's. It's also a *much* smaller target.

    • @roshankattil8584
      @roshankattil8584 3 роки тому

      Well the imperial bomber has more firepower

    • @daleford8621
      @daleford8621 3 роки тому

      @@roshankattil8584 true, it has more range as well.

  • @thedustinmobile1054
    @thedustinmobile1054 7 років тому +70

    Home 1 vs invisible hand. the flag ships of two of the most renowned factions in the galaxy. captained by the top strategic minds of their eras.

    • @trevors3908
      @trevors3908 7 років тому +2

      unfortunately the captains wouldn't matter in this series :(

    • @williamcrawford1950
      @williamcrawford1950 7 років тому

      Hi There the leaders add to the iconicnes of the ship

    • @Youllpayforthat
      @Youllpayforthat 7 років тому +1

      he could do a special episode basically pinning the captians plus the ships against eachother

    • @Zathaghil
      @Zathaghil 7 років тому

      He could, but won't.

    • @Death-bd1tl
      @Death-bd1tl 3 роки тому

      So,fuck thrawn right?

  • @CHRF-55457
    @CHRF-55457 Рік тому +5

    The Harrower proves itself worthy of being called a dreadnought pretty easily while the Valor Class Cruiser is better off as a starfighter carrier than an actual frontline capital ship slugging it out with other capital ships.

  • @SorenNido
    @SorenNido 7 років тому +106

    By the way, the Harrower has *25 7-barreled* turbolasers, just saying since it seemed you could not count them well. (No offense btw)

    • @tallerstond8105
      @tallerstond8105 6 років тому +2

      Soren Recker knew I got it right :D

    • @CABOOSEBOB
      @CABOOSEBOB 5 років тому +8

      It doesn’t matter how many turbolasers, it matters how much power you can supply to them

    • @Paerigos
      @Paerigos 5 років тому +19

      ​@@CABOOSEBOB Well - generaly in legends this was said about ships - they need to do 3 things - move, shield, and fire... and they can decently only do two out of three at any given time.
      Meaning - if the Harrower is maneuvering it can have shileds and defend itself by quads... when it reaches right orientation it stops powering engines, rellying on innertia and pound target with tubrolasers...
      if by any chance there is not that many fighers around and it can run weaker shields...

    • @johnpatz8395
      @johnpatz8395 2 роки тому

      Not sure how I’ve overlooked this comment each time I’ve seen this video, but I’m glad I saw it this time, since I was thinking the main batteries, near the bridge, looked like 7 barrel turbolasers. At first I thought that was wrong, they had to be 8 but looking again sure enough the barrels are spaced just like the 3 barreled laser cannons some start fighters have.

  • @ilianivaylov3815
    @ilianivaylov3815 7 років тому

    I've been waiting for this battle for so long and it's finally here! I love your versus series!

  • @DeltaActual
    @DeltaActual 7 років тому +55

    Ventator vs Harrower

    • @Baconator984
      @Baconator984 7 років тому +1

      I don't know dude. That seems like a pretty one-sided fight.

    • @DeltaActual
      @DeltaActual 7 років тому +1

      Zerxees I think they would be similar in capability since the venator has so many strike craft and is also newer compared to the Harrower

    • @heliosjollywolf9552
      @heliosjollywolf9552 7 років тому +9

      Zerxees yeah the harrower would win because of it's impressive armament, it would be just like this battle only a closer call since the venator is way better designed than the valor

    • @_tertle3892
      @_tertle3892 4 роки тому +3

      1 Nihulistic99th I don’t thick 95 fighters and 32 bombers (both out dated) could stand up to the Venators 400+ fighters/bomber

    • @_tertle3892
      @_tertle3892 4 роки тому +1

      2 the rest of you the harrower is outdated it tech nology is worse then that of the venator the harrower turbolasers won’t do nearly the same damage as the venator the shields won’t be as powerful ether

  • @jaredevans8263
    @jaredevans8263 3 роки тому +47

    I think the firepower of the Valor was downplayed. You can't base the ship's firepower solely on the image/art because art doesn't always show the weapons in full detail. The Valor is described as follows: "The ship class served as the heaviest and most powerful warship in the Republic fleet, allowing it to match the Harrower-class dreadnought in terms of size and firepower but it was only armored where needed, allowing it to be faster and more agile than the Harrower." (Wookieepedia).
    So I think the Valor had just as many turbolasers and whatnot as the Harrower, however the Harrower can use its guns more effectively due to its wedge-shaped design. The Valor can't bring as many guns to bear in most directions, so the Harrower would have an advantage due to its design, but the advantage wouldn't be 2-3 times greater like stated in the video.
    I think the Valor's speed and agility makes up for its less efficient firepower design because the Republic wouldn't use it to counter the Harrower if it couldn't. The Republic would have built another ship class to counter the Harrower or they would have sent in waves of Valors to swarm Harrowers. Neither of which they did.

    • @Zeknif1
      @Zeknif1 Рік тому +7

      Actually… the Star of Coruscant appears to have been just such an attempt by the Republic to build something to counter the Imperial’s fleet. It would fall to a massive Sith Ambush above Hoth as the final result of a year-long campaign of espionage and subterfuge carried out by the Empire to ensure it could be destroyed before it could make a meaningful contribution to the war. The result is that a portion of Hoth’s surface would become a starship graveyard. It’s also worth noting that the Star of Coruscant and its escort vessels were loaded out with numerous experimental weapons. So there was definitely an effort to try to build a proper counter to the Empire’s Harrower. It also clues us in that the Republic has a significant industrial capacity as they were ultimately able to absorb such significant losses and still maintain some level of parity with the Imperial Navy soon after.
      I think the likeliest scenario is that while Imperial warships like the Harrower were better able to trade favorably against Republic Warships, they lacked the ability to efficiently replace losses as fast as they were incurred while the Republic could. The so called “waves of valor” would only occur much later in the Sith/Republic conflict when attrition against the Harrowers allowed the surviving and newly built Republic Valors to properly outnumber the remaining Harrowers and a far fewer number of newly built harrowers.

    • @jaredevans8263
      @jaredevans8263 Рік тому +2

      @@Zeknif1 you bring up good points. Tbh I think the Star of Coruscant was an attempt to counter Sith superweapon/fleet killer designs such as all the ones made by Darth Mekhis during the Great Galactic War and Cold War. Perhaps also as an undefeatable symbol of hope to boost morale across all Republic owned space, since the Republic was suffering tremendous losses.
      Looking back at the Valor cruiser, I now realize that it's hull shape and weapon placement does have the benefit of being able to shoot equal firepower at all angles including out the rear, which allows for greater versatility and positioning options than the Harrower. The lack of firepower blind spots and good amounts of higher quality starfighters would make the Valor an effective counter to the Harrower alone.
      I do think that the Star of Coruscant would have been an effective counter against large fleets of Harrowers, where a mere Pyrrhic victory at best could be achieved with Valors and other vessel classes. Basically a trump card to call upon when needed most

    • @Zeknif1
      @Zeknif1 Рік тому +4

      @@jaredevans8263 My biggest issue with the Valor is the combination of its armor profile with its engine placement. While it is a given that a space fairing vessel’s propulsion systems will be exposed when attacked from the rear, the Valor’s is also exposed from the front… and we aren’t even talking about tertiary propulsion… all of their propulsion systems are housed in the module jutting out from below the main hull. I would be able to forgive this had this area had significant armor to its sides and front… however, the front of the propulsion system housing is so completely exposed that much of it is exposed from the side profile as well (as well as much of the thruster components themselves). Attempting to maneuver the ship to protect this vulnerability only results in exposing the vulnerable, unarmored sections of the hull superstructure.
      The Likeliest scenarios for Harrower vs Valor are as follows:
      Short Range: Valor attempts to flank the Harrower attacking it with its broadside firepower… results are dependent on the gunnery of the Harrower in their ability to consistently target the exposed engine housing of the Valor, vs the Valor’s gunnery to consistently target the Harrower’s guns. This scenario is about the closest to parity the two ships will be as they’ll be limited to broadside firepower. Once the shields are down, the Harrower knocking out 2 or three of the Valor’s engines (assuming they are designed not to go up in a chain reaction) would bring the ships into parity as far as agility goes… which will quickly snowball into a Harrower win. If the Valor can drain the Harrower’s shields and knock out enough guns, the Valor will then have the option to park on the Harrower’s ass and target it’s most vulnerable section for an easy victory.
      Long-Range: Valor attempts to leverage its agility and the long travel time of the Turbolasers to evade Harrower volleys while returning fire. The Valor may see initial advantage in the shield drain game because the Harrower simply won’t be able to dodge, the sheer volume of fire will give the Harrower the option to fire in a wide spread to ensure some bolts hit their mark. The biggest issue is that the Valor’s evasive maneuvers will slow its rate of progression relative to the Harrower that will likely fly in a straighter line, allowing it to close the distance. The inefficient weapons placement of the Valor means that at any given time, the return fire that the Harrower must absorb is minimized. This matchup mostly ends up being dependent on the skill of the Harrower gunnery to hit and corral the Valor vs the helmsmanship of the Valor at dodging the incoming bolts.
      Mid-Range: The Valor picks between closing the distance, in which case it’s poor armor profile and ineffective weapon placement ensures it loses the shield match against the Harrower’s blistering frontal firepower before having the engines quickly shot out from under it… or try to open the distance… essentially the long range scenario except they don’t have the room necessary to dodge.
      Obstacle involved: This is the scenario the Valor needs to catch a Harrower in or draw them into. A debris field offers the Valor many opportunities for it to leverage its advantages in agility and starfighter compliment against the Harrower’s defensive and armament advantages by using the debris or asteroids to block fire and obscure observation of their maneuvers, as well as hoping the lacking agility of the Harrower results in greater damage from the environment. This would actually explain why many of the SWTOR space battles are in asteroid fields. Alternatively, a Valor could deploy in a way that puts an entire planet between itself and the nearest Harrower.

    • @hazardous8301
      @hazardous8301 Рік тому +4

      There’s a reason why the Valor ship design virtually fell off the face of the galaxy, while the Harrower gave birth to one of the most successful capital ship designs in the verse.

  • @ryanyamada2645
    @ryanyamada2645 3 роки тому +7

    Something I do not think was even taken into consideration was “Didn’t the Harrower have a massive array of anti starfighter / bomber guns”. Like matching that of the Dreadnaught class heavy cruiser, that most republic pilots feared as an anti spacecraft gun ship platform. I really do not think that even with the harrowers entire air wing crippled, that the bombers or their bombs would have an easy time of just landing their ordinance. They or their missiles, torpedos, bombs, would get cut to shreds trying to close in on the Harrower. The Sith empire was so feared because their ships pretty well stomped anything in era into the ground and they could blanket the battlefield in said ships. I am far from a lore expert, but what vague things I remembered were that it would generally take 2-3 ships like the Valor to even stand a chance. Even then 1-2 of the Valor classes would pay the price for the win.

  • @jtj1212
    @jtj1212 7 років тому +101

    Episode 2 Jedi Starfighter vs episode 3 Jedi Interceptor please it would make my day👍

    • @senorcheems8388
      @senorcheems8388 7 років тому +1

      Jason Joffe this could be interesting

    • @Jay-629
      @Jay-629 6 років тому

      Hmmmm. Delta-7 or Delta-7B? 7 is the one in AotC. 7B is from TCW.

    • @_tertle3892
      @_tertle3892 4 роки тому

      Jay I would presume the 7 because he says episode 2

  • @eclipse8663
    @eclipse8663 7 років тому +233

    Allegiance Star Destroyer vs MC 90 PLEASE.

    • @Alexzander1989
      @Alexzander1989 7 років тому

      Close enough to my suggestion

    • @user-gi4wg9ib8i
      @user-gi4wg9ib8i 7 років тому

      Thepic Anominasis Ain't it going to be kind of a one-way fight?

  • @jamesgaddis6189
    @jamesgaddis6189 7 років тому +27

    The Valor looks like it was meant to be some kind of cruise ship rather than a warship. For The Empire!

  • @joeshid9166
    @joeshid9166 3 роки тому +5

    This channel really grew

  • @AlphariusPrimarchoftheXXLegion
    @AlphariusPrimarchoftheXXLegion 7 років тому +27

    Terminus class destroyer vs the recusent class light destroyer

  • @michaelalexander3078
    @michaelalexander3078 7 років тому

    This guy does amazing videos. I've gone from a casual Star Wars fan to becoming a geek from this channel. Thank you!

  • @yeaiamtrill
    @yeaiamtrill 7 років тому +85

    please! Executor vs covenant super carrier!

    • @alexandermiller5425
      @alexandermiller5425 7 років тому +11

      Super carrier wins due to size and weapons and fighter support and corvettes and *gasp* stealth and glassing beams and shields and armor. Done.

    • @louisvdb8898
      @louisvdb8898 6 років тому +1

      not realy, the covenant used forerunner technology, probably shields as well, as in based on them
      and if you look at the forerunners you learn that they could easily stomp the empire, the emperor is less than a stormtrooper when compared to the didact, and the halo array is capable of simply wiping out all life in multiple galaxies at once
      + turbolasers would not come close to glassing- or excavation beams

    • @ragemonkey117
      @ragemonkey117 6 років тому +5

      Alexander Miller the executor's shields can tank whatever the Covenant carrier throws at it. The Empire isn't the UNSC. Their ships can take on the Covenant, and win.

    • @AsrielDreemurYT653
      @AsrielDreemurYT653 3 роки тому

      @@ragemonkey117 nope.

  • @gups6662
    @gups6662 7 років тому +9

    The Harrower has one big weakness in having that many of its weapons near the bridge. And the Valor having more speed can likely attack form its sides

    • @maeday8839
      @maeday8839 2 роки тому +9

      But that isn't a weakness. It means it's able to concentrate fire much better as well as being able to better defend the bridge from any A-Wings doing a kamakaze into the... Wait wrong era. Point still stands.
      It's difficult for the Valor to use all its weapons at once which is a huge disadvantage.

  • @bunch_of_numbers
    @bunch_of_numbers 7 років тому

    I can personally recommend the blue snowball mic since its audio quality is great for a mic under 100$ i've had one for a year now and really i'm really impressed by its performance. Also love your channel man :)

  • @savintheuk2.070
    @savintheuk2.070 7 років тому

    Nice video it was really helpful and tort me alot

  • @I3oo1ve
    @I3oo1ve 7 років тому +23

    Old Republic Hammerhead vs Rebel Hammerhead

    • @opolaris6355
      @opolaris6355 7 років тому +5

      I3oo1Ve old republic one would win due to it being a giant upscaled version of the rebel one, it wouldn't have maneuverability but it would have the tonnage and firepower advantage

    • @maggiethetompug1409
      @maggiethetompug1409 7 років тому

      lol

    • @maggiethetompug1409
      @maggiethetompug1409 7 років тому

      smash to mallets against eachother and that is this battle

  • @ayethe4603
    @ayethe4603 6 років тому +10

    The harrower is my favorite ship ever

  • @commandernova1187
    @commandernova1187 7 років тому +3

    Great video as usual

  • @n.nnamkcurts3024
    @n.nnamkcurts3024 7 років тому +14

    Secutor class SD vs. the longer version of the providence class carrier

  • @blairjohnson5833
    @blairjohnson5833 7 років тому +121

    PELICAN VS LAAT GUNSHIP

    • @yeaiamtrill
      @yeaiamtrill 7 років тому +1

      Blair Johnsonthe new pelicans have shields it might be a very even fight depending on each ones loadout

    • @User256-4
      @User256-4 7 років тому

      Blair Johnson yessssss please

    • @toxicfireball2690
      @toxicfireball2690 7 років тому

      Blair Johnson nice

    • @deceptiwave2936
      @deceptiwave2936 7 років тому +1

      The pelican is a DROPship, the LAAT is a GUNship. I wonder if the one with more guns will win?

    • @reffzorakee694
      @reffzorakee694 6 років тому

      which pelican are we talking about??

  • @Parsley-pr9sv
    @Parsley-pr9sv 6 років тому

    Also though your audio is amazing considering how you recorded it just want to say doing a good job

  • @profshamrock9352
    @profshamrock9352 6 років тому

    I suddenly found out, after not only joining the discord server, watching almost all of your videos, and watching the twitch streams, that I wasn’t subscribed, which was very quickly remedied

  • @clarkstrange2142
    @clarkstrange2142 4 роки тому +1

    The Valor looks like a Star Trek ship with that 60’s saucer motiff, I love it!

  • @monoclesquid9667
    @monoclesquid9667 6 років тому +3

    The Munificent is easily one of my favorite, if not my favorite, canon ships. It is so visually unique and striking that it wins me over every time.

  • @alluringming
    @alluringming 5 років тому

    Love the harrower dreadnaught. Love see you do video about the sith army and navy from Star Wars old republic era. I don't think enough that people give the sith forces enough credit for what military forces they had. While didn't okay the online game I have watche dokenth of gameplay and was impressed by what the sith had. Hell I like the sith fighters better than the tie fighter and only wish more varients of the sith fighters. Though I'm told in the comics you do see more variety of sith ground and space forces but not sure if that true or not. So I do hope you do a video about the sith military at some point ^^

  • @giantgorillas660
    @giantgorillas660 7 років тому

    i love what you are doing bro

  • @Dusterr23
    @Dusterr23 6 років тому +3

    You indicated that the Valor is only 500 m long, but in SWTOR it is more than 2x the length of a Thranta class cruiser which is 375 M long. I think that the Valor and Harrower end up being very similar in length.

  • @radecri
    @radecri 7 років тому +133

    Hammerhead Corvette vs CR90

  • @thatoneguyinthecommentsect4769
    @thatoneguyinthecommentsect4769 7 років тому

    How do people think the quality is "ok"? This my my favorite UA-cam channel and its quality is pretty good. A blue yeti mic would help a bit and some acoustic foam in the background and that's good. It's cheap too. At most, it's $200

  • @ranger68
    @ranger68 6 років тому

    Damn almost a year ahead of when this was posted and the channel has grown sssssooooo much

  • @royalmd4301
    @royalmd4301 7 років тому

    Eckhart what is the last song you used? because its almost always the same one and I can't find it

  • @S.W.01
    @S.W.01 7 років тому +119

    Long live the Sith!

  • @DragonJax29
    @DragonJax29 Рік тому

    Greetings from the future you become a great youtuber

  • @dallastitus323
    @dallastitus323 7 років тому

    love your channel

  • @eldrenofthemist2492
    @eldrenofthemist2492 7 років тому

    Could we see a three part/topic video:
    1) About The Killiks VS the Trade Federation.
    2) Dart Ships and Nest Ships VS Vulture droids and Lucrehulk-class battleship.
    3) As well as Killik Troops VS Battle Droids if ether side tried boarding the other.

  • @villageidiots228
    @villageidiots228 7 років тому +4

    Mandolorian cruiser vs Munificent class star frigate. Tomorrow is my bday it would be amazing to see the match up

  • @bradyceteznik228
    @bradyceteznik228 7 років тому +27

    do the Republic mandator 2 class dreadnought vs the imperial super star destroyer

    • @paolorubenmastretta
      @paolorubenmastretta 7 років тому

      THEBACCAWORRIOR BaccaWarior I love mandator 2 but i think that the match against the executor is scripted

    • @bradyceteznik228
      @bradyceteznik228 7 років тому +2

      I just like the republic and no one ever talks about the manator 2 dreadnought

    • @paolorubenmastretta
      @paolorubenmastretta 7 років тому +1

      THEBACCAWORRIOR BaccaWarior in fact you have my like

  • @samuelhayden4710
    @samuelhayden4710 2 роки тому

    The Valor looks like Padme’s apartment under construction, really big and with engines.

  • @commo8087
    @commo8087 7 років тому

    Are there any examples of missing vessels besides the obvious ones, a missing Executor class destroyer for example.

  • @ianholdinghausen695
    @ianholdinghausen695 7 років тому +8

    Hey, I have a video request that is a little different. So as you know, the battle of yavin was a costly battle for the rebellion, they only got away with three ships (not counting the falcon) the two X-wings contained Luke and wedge, but there was an unidentified Y-wing pilot. Could you do a video on this pilot?

    • @juliadugoszek2877
      @juliadugoszek2877 7 років тому

      Gramdpa Leroy
      I can answer you question now if you like
      Becouse you know i don't want to spoiler anything

    • @ianholdinghausen695
      @ianholdinghausen695 7 років тому +1

      Piotr Długoszek please do tell :)

    • @juliadugoszek2877
      @juliadugoszek2877 7 років тому +5

      Ok.
      The name of this pilot in canon is Evaan Verlaine. She was a Alderaanian fighter pilot. During her childhood she was mentored by the mother of Leia Organa ( Breha Organa), wich later led her to folowig her planet's leaders into rebelion. Her first mission was in fact the battle of Scarif in wich she flew as Gold Three.
      After the battle Alderaan was destroyed. She personaly took the battle of Yavin becouse the Death Star destroyed her homeworld. After the battle she joined Princess Leia in her quest of gathering surviving remeining alderaanians. After the mission princess Leia passed her title of princess to Evaan.
      I hope I helped:)

    • @rohankurup5275
      @rohankurup5275 7 років тому

      legends is keyan farlander

  • @royalguardian2701
    @royalguardian2701 7 років тому +34

    Y wing vs tie bomber

  • @ralphsmith7179
    @ralphsmith7179 6 років тому +3

    More Old Reublic era!!!

  • @smith9145
    @smith9145 7 років тому

    What are the names of the songs you used in this video?

  • @Boredkl21
    @Boredkl21 7 років тому +6

    Imperial 2 class star destroyer vs lucrehulk droid control ship (CIS vs empire)

  • @thijmenhermelink1874
    @thijmenhermelink1874 7 років тому

    Could you do the Vindicator-heavy class cruiser VS. The interdictor Cruiser from knights of the old republic ?

  • @xXMcScorpionXx
    @xXMcScorpionXx 7 років тому +1

    I had a unique idea, it would be a fair fight in my personal opinion. A Imperial AT-AT Vs The covenants scarab from halo, preferably from halo 2 but either could work.

  • @dorkeldink9824
    @dorkeldink9824 6 років тому

    How would the harrower hold up against an Imperial I class star destroyer or for that fact an Imperial II? From what I have seen now I am under the opinion the the harrower has more firepower based on it's sheer number of turbo laser batteries.

  • @xorras8037
    @xorras8037 6 років тому

    7:37 What is the source for that pic?

  • @robertellis5567
    @robertellis5567 7 років тому

    it took to long to get these ships against each other, also durring the inquisitor story (swtor) a group of moths begin outfitting ships with the silencer weapon so why was this not included in the extras section?

  • @Manuel-gk3rv
    @Manuel-gk3rv 7 років тому +1

    Yay! Finally mine!
    Also Random Guy should only be able to have 2 comments max. he is just too good

  • @jedijam91
    @jedijam91 7 років тому +2

    I don't think the battle would favor the Harrower as much as you suggest. Many of the sources I've seen have said that the Valor can match the Harrower in firepower. I agree that the Valor is less armored than the Harrower but it's speed and fighter superiority would compensate for that. I would say that they are more-or-less equal

  • @Dankumemes
    @Dankumemes 3 роки тому +1

    Its funny how the design of the bridge for both sides got flipped during the empires reign

  • @nickvinsable3798
    @nickvinsable3798 7 років тому +2

    There is only ONE THING that you may have left out, but that is Assuming that its Standard Battle Tactics: Boarding Parties.

  • @ApsalusSigma
    @ApsalusSigma 7 років тому

    From what I got from this is that the Valor was used by the Republic as a Command Carrier, meaning the venerable Hammerhead is the main attack Capital Ship / Destroyer.

  • @KaratePath
    @KaratePath 2 роки тому

    Btw there is a map on GSF in which they fight on the middle, pretty illustrative and cool

  • @SorenNido
    @SorenNido 7 років тому

    Gozanti-class cruiser vs Hammerhead Corvette! Their are similarly armed and sized (at least the seem to be...), and they existed in the same era.

  • @artymixon5316
    @artymixon5316 7 років тому +1

    I think its a matter of tactics,If the Valor launches all or most of its fighters I think its speed would allow them to keep out of the Sith's ship's range while its fighters weaken it enough for them to close in for the kill,the Valor may still lose most of the time but I think it be more like 6-4 then the 8 and a half out of 10,just my opinion,love your vids

  • @Bloo_DMT
    @Bloo_DMT 7 років тому +1

    I would agree the republic relied upon the Thranta-class. and star fighters to engage capital ships like the Harrower. While the Valor-class cruiser. was heavily armed and armored it was in essence a fighter carrier/flagship it was no match for a proper dreadnought class vessel as it relied on speed more than fire power or armor for its protection and offensive capabilities.

  • @redamonblood5165
    @redamonblood5165 7 років тому +1

    if the valor class cruiser is faster it can stay out of cannon range and attack with the more numerous star fighters and bombers and when needed (or if most of the Harrower class dreadnought cannons are disable) the valor can com in and turn use broad side to attack then enemy.
    this is how i see it because from the looks of it the harrower is made go for ship to ship combat

  • @Emars118
    @Emars118 7 років тому +6

    2 venetor Star destroyers vs 1 Imperial class Star destroyer!

  • @thedutchspicetrader
    @thedutchspicetrader 4 роки тому

    What game are you playing at 06:30 - 06:40

  • @threesofthree6100
    @threesofthree6100 6 років тому +1

    If you were to update the technology on the Harrower to Galactic Empire era but keep the overall design, that ship would be a fucking beast.

  • @joshuaaxford516
    @joshuaaxford516 2 роки тому

    Inclined to agree with this assessment. Even though the Valor does carry more fighters and bombers, it only carries 15 fighters and 8 bombers more than the Harrower, which is not enough of an advantage. The only thing not covered that may provide some room for argument was in the weapons area, both ships carried missile/torpedo tubes but the Valor has access to Ion torpedoes which may help tip things (or may not). So far as I can find, the Harrower class only has access to normal Proton and Concussion systems, which are still good but are not designed to bring down shields the same way as Ion torpedoes. Also both ships have access to Ion cannons, though I cannot find any info about numbers.

  • @gumbobaba
    @gumbobaba 7 років тому

    EckhartsLadder, (do not read if you want spoilers) name of the gorilla walker is (I think) first order heavy walker, and the blue ship in space that was in the trailer name is (I think) a resistance bomber, Kylo Ren will have his own tie fighter, I am not sure if these are all true or partly true but it's some info

  • @Hallo1248574
    @Hallo1248574 2 роки тому

    With all the Valors fighters and bombers out this is essentially a battle where both sides will lose

  • @Parsley-pr9sv
    @Parsley-pr9sv 6 років тому

    Hey brother I love your content about the audio Are used to make UA-cam videos a lot like stop motion animation and I was able to pick up a really good microphone Walmart for about 10 bucks if I remember correctly it’s not amazing but it definitely did a good job if you take a little bit of memory foam from an old hello and duct tape around it you have a great Soundgarden for when you get close to the 🎤 keep up the good work brother may the force be with you

  • @martinsleight9652
    @martinsleight9652 6 років тому +11

    Very few ships can fire all guns at once, and I imagine the Harrower is one of those ships, or I doubt the Republic would've won any battle. It's been stated before that the Valor is more than a match for a Harrower so read into that what you will. Perhaps it's defensive abilities make up for lack of optimised gun placement.

  • @sorcererberoll4641
    @sorcererberoll4641 7 років тому

    Thank you you did the harrower

  • @jessehorn6180
    @jessehorn6180 7 років тому +96

    Harrower Class Dreadnought Vs Imperial Star Destroyer

    • @theBoenich
      @theBoenich 7 років тому +4

      Jesse Horn
      Yes i love the harrower Design
      And Ask myself IT is even better than a "new" star destroyer

    • @psyrus728
      @psyrus728 7 років тому

      yesterday I suggested the same thing, but I don't care.

    • @fin5935
      @fin5935 7 років тому +20

      It wouldn't really be a fair match since the ISD was created thousands of yeas later and is thus more advanced.

    • @sanderleander3367
      @sanderleander3367 7 років тому +8

      FIREFOX_FIN Yeah but.. if you look at the legends lore technology didnt advance that much due to all the wars and then suddenly a stop of military

    • @fin5935
      @fin5935 7 років тому +10

      Perhaps the advances were slow but 4000 years is a long time. The ISD would crush the Harrower. I mean if it were weaker why would the empire use it? Especially when the Empires military doctrine was heavily focused on powerful capital ships.

  • @lukeanderson7070
    @lukeanderson7070 7 років тому +1

    How about the Eclipse Super Star Destroyer -VS- The Covenant's The Long Night of Solace?

  • @benrobinson6524
    @benrobinson6524 7 років тому

    Hey! what about Nihlus's Ravager vs the Providence from the clone wars? :D

  • @gijakob
    @gijakob 7 років тому

    Could you do Providence class Carrier/cruiser vs MC75 cruiser?

  • @tatesmith9085
    @tatesmith9085 6 років тому

    hold on where does it say how many each carries? cause if you really wanted to make it more true to the game then the fighters should actually have a combination of the strike fighter, scout, bomber and gunships. rather than just bomber and fighter

  • @paulwhite4521
    @paulwhite4521 6 років тому +1

    Hey can u do the resurgent class vs. Imperial II class star destroyer

  • @Tranefine
    @Tranefine 6 років тому +1

    Would love to see a Thranta-Class corvette vs terminus class destroyer

  • @mattwho81
    @mattwho81 4 роки тому +1

    One on one the Harrower has the advantage but rarely do lone ships meet lone ships. As a Fleet the Valour has the advantage since its broadsides allow it to target multiple targets simultaneously. Whereas the Harrower is a lone brawler the Valour can work in formations to concentrate on a wider selection of targets. Plus the more Valours there are the greater their fighter advantage becomes. In groups of 3 or more I’d give it to the Valour.

  • @Fallenangel0w0
    @Fallenangel0w0 6 років тому

    Have you done old republic starfighter vs x wing?

  • @theevildrummingsithlord1492
    @theevildrummingsithlord1492 7 років тому

    Plz do Top 5 Mandalorians (legends)!!!! or Keldabe-class Battleship vs. Marauder-class battleship!

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 6 років тому

    The Harrower looks so awesome.

  • @derkaylon1740
    @derkaylon1740 7 років тому +136

    Providence class vs Victory II class

    • @antoninja123
      @antoninja123 7 років тому

      Can we please have this. I would love to see this match-up.

    • @HrothgarHeavenlight
      @HrothgarHeavenlight 7 років тому

      Katana Dreadnoughts only difference from normal is a lower crew need.

    • @HrothgarHeavenlight
      @HrothgarHeavenlight 7 років тому

      Not really. Statistics for Dreadnought are for ships which were modified after funding Imperium. Partially that's why this ship have this big heavy turbolasers (from modification) , and low power old turbolasers from before modification. It is possible they have more hangar bays as slave-rigs gave much free space, 18k crew need much more supplies than 2,2k . For weapons, at best these are mostly medium turbolasers . similar to power of ISD main weapon, but it's optimistic assume. Old Republic Dreadnought carry 20 quad lasers, 10 turbolasers, 10 laser cannons and some ion cannons, compared to 10 heavy turbolasers and 20 quad turbolasers. One advantage of Katana fleet was ground troops, they were equipped with advanced walkers for this era, ATPT was decent walker , similar to ATST but smaller.

    • @user-gi4wg9ib8i
      @user-gi4wg9ib8i 7 років тому

      HrothgarHeavenlight Garm Bel Iblis's dreadnaughts ,which were from the katana fleet,were equipped with ion cannons in thrawn trilogy,and those were not listed in the weapons roster. So katana dreadnaughts were equipped with some additional weaponry

    • @HrothgarHeavenlight
      @HrothgarHeavenlight 7 років тому

      We dont know if it was a all Katana Dreadnought feature or Garm Bel Iblis own modification, it is even stated in that way on Wookiepedia.
      As Garm had quite strong force it can be possible he equipped (or replace some turbolasers ) hes ship with some ion cannons.

  • @nuclearwalnut998
    @nuclearwalnut998 7 років тому +43

    kylo ren's shuttle vs eta class shuttle?

  • @slightlyobeserat5781
    @slightlyobeserat5781 7 років тому

    I love your channel, but do you read from a script or are you just talking into your phone?

  • @thijmenhermelink1874
    @thijmenhermelink1874 7 років тому

    Wait...you get this quality from a phone ? Wow I must say that for a phone you're audio quality is great ! I don't mind audio quality that much I'm fine with your current quality.

    • @EckhartsLadder
      @EckhartsLadder  7 років тому +1

      +Kit Fisto a phone, very careful set up, and tuning in Audacity afterwards haha, yeah.

  • @Sp1nnern
    @Sp1nnern 7 років тому +2

    Not giving up
    "Z-95 (as it excited during the clone wars)
    vs. the TIE fighter (as it excited during the galactic civil war)

  • @carlhinman8130
    @carlhinman8130 7 років тому

    I know that this ship isn't Star Wars but I still want to have your opinion on it, the Covenant Battle Cruiser versus an imperator class star destroyer

  • @cpl.yuminagumo6754
    @cpl.yuminagumo6754 7 років тому +1

    how about the Bulwark mk2 vs the MC80 Home One

  • @colekujumdziev6052
    @colekujumdziev6052 7 років тому +1

    you should do the executor class super star destroyer vs the resurgent class star destroyer

  • @lordofoshu8017
    @lordofoshu8017 4 роки тому +1

    Dont forget about the Doombringer from SWTOR Sith Inquisitor story. It had the Silencer on it, took out an entire fleet of ships in seconds.

    • @Janoha17
      @Janoha17 3 роки тому

      Or the Gauntlet from the Trooper story, or Darth Angral's Desolator from the Jedi Knight story.

  • @Gigas0101
    @Gigas0101 7 років тому

    Could we please get Unicron vs the Death Star? (Or Unicron VS 5 Reapers from Mass Effect)

  • @Davitofrito
    @Davitofrito 7 років тому

    would it be worth it to swap out supremacy fighters for liberators on the harrower?

  • @emperormalgus4541
    @emperormalgus4541 7 років тому +1

    Glory for the Empire! - Grand Moff Killran