So I watch a lot in bed at night with my wife and she occasionally tries to follow along and generally just likes your vibe in the background. You were doing a lot of cheeses when I first started watching; I think it was a series you were doing. And generally I've come to think of you as someone who really likes to do interesting and novel cheeses. And for some reason the title just reminded me that when I put on a UA-cam video and she hears it and thinks (usually correctly) that it's you she asks me "is that Cheesers?" So there you go, if you're running low on usernames, I submit "Cheesers" as a viable option.
Beautiful! For Corruptor v Protoss: Overseer scouts Protoss pylons; send each pair of Corruptors to attack each pylon; destroying their pylons halts production, allowing you to to a tech switch. For super-evil-mode, save-up enough Overseer energy to Contaminate the Protoss tech structures, once the pylons rebuild!
I agree with this suggestion but I'm going to feel really bad for marc's muscle memory in the coming weeks :ddd BUT, it could give us a chance to see marc "play normal" without actually doing so
H to the usky Husky. I remember that time. @@eggmancorp Years after he was gone he started real life videos wich creeped me out^^ But alot of people like it, thats okay. Baneelinge Baneeeelings baaanelings OOH
Been watching your videos for a couple years now and finally bought a pc to play SC2 again (after a decade hiatus)... I felt like a total potato 😄😅. Made myself cringe and I have No clue how you make it look so easy. Cheers Thermy and thanks for all the entertainment! 👏👌
I really really want to see more Hydralisk drops like that one game. It was the most fun thing I have seen in a long while. Playing Zerg like Terran and such. Hydralisk drops and swarm hosts and corrupter stuff are just hands down my favs. I'd love to see Hydralisk, Swarmhost and either Corrupter or Broodlord to grandmaster or something. Can make 4 zerglings kinda style.
Idk if you do it on purpose for us or if it is just how you play, but thank you for not doing the common pro player thing of clicking around the map at insane rates, like serral for example hah, I’d love to watch more of his videos but it’s headache and nausea inducing to follow lol. Yours are about as smooth as possible 🙌 plus the best commentary in the game of course adds a lot too.
I think all upgrades challenge could be fun for you. Ruleset: at least one upgrade ongoing constantly until there's none to go. That way all transitions should be truly overpowered but of course there's almost never overpowered situation by numbers of units. I think proross could be the easiest race for this challenge because both terran and zerg have more unit specific upgrades than proross while zerg having most individual upgrades in tech tree, I think. Not checked these assumptions though!
I think Battery Overcharge seems to be off cooldown all of the time because you keep destroying the Nexus, so your opponent needs to keep building new ones, which means a brand new Nexus with a brand new cooldown.
I don't think that checks out. Since Patch 4.12.0, Battery Overcharge has a global cooldown of 60 seconds shared between every Nexus. A Nexus' build time is 71 seconds. It takes about 63 seconds to generate 50 energy.
@@SawyerSGN Oops! Sorry. I only watch SC2 these days. I haven't played in ages so I thought each Nexus had their own cool down for Battery Overcharge. Thanks for the correction!
Its because the corruptor caustic spray cooldown is 30 seconds but doesnt start cooling down until he is done spraying. So its usually 20ish seconds that hes spraying. Battery overcharge cooldown is 60 seconds so it will always be ready again before the nexus dies
Love the corrupter cheese. Maybe this is a noob suggestion but I feel like if you had transitioned to broodlord, corrupter, crack-lings you would have had that game in the bag. Nothing he could have made really counters that and the transition to skytoss would have been impossible on his eco
Corruptors look so OP. I feel like if he makes more corruptors and keeps killing bases with zergling corrruptor instead of switching to infestor, he just wins.
If you need therapy, watch uThermal win the first game, throw the second, and destroy in the third. You will be free of all your troubles. Thank you for the great video.
i really wanna see the corruptor cheese alive! at the 2nd game the problem was that you didnt commit on destroying 3 protoss base at the same time while harassing with lings
actually.. i will love to see you using banelings as i used to too, try to~ i dare you~ full banelings vs army buildings and bases while harassing with zerglings/mutas, i know it sounds as a horrible strategy.. you only need 10 banes to break down the walls, and the rest to destroy the army buildings like barrarks or so, it's funny to see how your opponent losses his mind while doing it, just for fun~
Against Terrans, what about a Corruptor "hit squad" designed to take out supply depots, which can't move? Or can depots simply be rebuilt too quickly to be worth trying to supply block the opponent?
7:20 this isnt worth it to make the hatchery here. it's just wasted minerals, he will just click the zealot onto it and you will have to cancel. it's just 75 wasted minerals, just save the cash and scout with it.
One day Marc will learn to build more workers :) In his every video he says that his economy is trash and barely does anything about it :) Although if he is a monster with bad ecomony, what will he do with a healthy one?
How do you make Starcraft look good? Whenever i play (i want casual) i'm always like... yo... i need more base spaces and the minerals run out too quickly for no reason...
That loss against protoss... it annoyed me you didn't build more queens and hatcheries ot the north and more drones... you had so many minerals for a long time... If you got all the nexus, there is always a chance they can't build naother one. I like the concept and attack as it worked well.. If you did a corruptor rush, could work.. 3 nexus, 5 corruptors to each... Zeroing out all nexus's can cause problems... the other problem is defending and investmetn with it, but corruptors are actualy lreally useful early game and do not take away too much and have pretty good transition into brood lord behind their main base, hidden brood lord change and hten wipe out their main or use it as an attack... but yeah looked fun.
The corruptor game was epic, if only you went all in with corruptor instead of transitioning into infestor, they were kinda useless for the rest of the game.
Zerg units are so broken for multiplayer. Infestor: Area of effect damage spell that not only shreds Terran and Zerg infantry, but also reveals all clocked units. Can also instantly mind-control large, expensive units. Corruptor: HIghly armored, fast, relatively cheap flyer that can melt enemy buildings despite being under constant attack from ground or air. Brood Lord: At least was nerfed slightly, but is still a long range siege weapon that does double damage to ground units and can be protected by aforementioned armored flying units when they take a break from nuking buildings. Lurker: Cloaked siege unit with area of effect damage that shreds units or buildings incredibly fast. The only way to beat zerg in multiplayer at a higher level is to micro the shit out of them, get incredibly lucky, and prevent them from ever reaching flying units.
So I watch a lot in bed at night with my wife and she occasionally tries to follow along and generally just likes your vibe in the background. You were doing a lot of cheeses when I first started watching; I think it was a series you were doing. And generally I've come to think of you as someone who really likes to do interesting and novel cheeses. And for some reason the title just reminded me that when I put on a UA-cam video and she hears it and thinks (usually correctly) that it's you she asks me "is that Cheesers?" So there you go, if you're running low on usernames, I submit "Cheesers" as a viable option.
Jesus?
uThermal: Multitasks winning GM ladder games while providing full commentary 10 steps ahead.
Me: Can't eat cereal without accidentally exhaling milk.
XD APM but for cereal consumption
you meaning inhaling milk?
@@Gromic2k I think it says a lot about how much SC2 is muscle memory
Beautiful!
For Corruptor v Protoss:
Overseer scouts Protoss pylons; send each pair of Corruptors to attack each pylon; destroying their pylons halts production, allowing you to to a tech switch. For super-evil-mode, save-up enough Overseer energy to Contaminate the Protoss tech structures, once the pylons rebuild!
Challenge suggestion: F2 to GM. Everything allowed, but you can only select army units with F2.
I agree with this suggestion but I'm going to feel really bad for marc's muscle memory in the coming weeks :ddd
BUT, it could give us a chance to see marc "play normal" without actually doing so
Even I don't f2 that much
so it's just normal protoss?
You can get to Diamond 💎 lol. I can get to Diamond with no micro and no control groups. Haha
To add on to this suggestion, he should also play random
uThermal is the kind of guy if his natural hatch gets blocked, he never builds it there at all 😂
Great content as always. UThermal made me watch SC2 gameplay again as I didn't for QUITE a while
Same here
Same here
Same. Remember HuskyStarcraft? Yeah, that's how long it was for me.
H to the usky Husky. I remember that time. @@eggmancorp Years after he was gone he started real life videos wich creeped me out^^ But alot of people like it, thats okay. Baneelinge Baneeeelings baaanelings OOH
@@oioioipoloi Yes! I knew I couldn't be the only one. BROOOONZE LEAGUE HEROOOOOOES 😂😂
Corruptor Rush look so cool. I'd love to see more of that
I feel like a broodlord rush is the natural transition after the corruptors
Really love these videos. They are a part of my daily routine. Keep up the good work Marc.
Use corrupters to beat skytoss: 🙅
Use corrupters to pee on nexuses:
Been watching your videos for a couple years now and finally bought a pc to play SC2 again (after a decade hiatus)... I felt like a total potato 😄😅. Made myself cringe and I have No clue how you make it look so easy. Cheers Thermy and thanks for all the entertainment! 👏👌
UA-cam tutorials are your best card
I did the same (already had a PC, I actually connected it - I’m back at *PC Gaming*). ViBE’s B2GM series gave me a good starting point
That last ZvP was one of the craziest games I've seen you play. Can't believe it went on for as long as it did. GG's!
I really really want to see more Hydralisk drops like that one game. It was the most fun thing I have seen in a long while. Playing Zerg like Terran and such. Hydralisk drops and swarm hosts and corrupter stuff are just hands down my favs. I'd love to see Hydralisk, Swarmhost and either Corrupter or Broodlord to grandmaster or something. Can make 4 zerglings kinda style.
3:06
"I actually think I've evolved."
Pull back, Marc, you've gone zerg too hard. Hold the gun. Be the man. Hear the hGRaeRgh!
Idk if you do it on purpose for us or if it is just how you play, but thank you for not doing the common pro player thing of clicking around the map at insane rates, like serral for example hah, I’d love to watch more of his videos but it’s headache and nausea inducing to follow lol. Yours are about as smooth as possible 🙌 plus the best commentary in the game of course adds a lot too.
I think all upgrades challenge could be fun for you. Ruleset: at least one upgrade ongoing constantly until there's none to go.
That way all transitions should be truly overpowered but of course there's almost never overpowered situation by numbers of units.
I think proross could be the easiest race for this challenge because both terran and zerg have more unit specific upgrades than proross while zerg having most individual upgrades in tech tree, I think.
Not checked these assumptions though!
What we truly need is a bongcloud equivalent for Protoss and Zerg.
I think Battery Overcharge seems to be off cooldown all of the time because you keep destroying the Nexus, so your opponent needs to keep building new ones, which means a brand new Nexus with a brand new cooldown.
I don't think that checks out. Since Patch 4.12.0, Battery Overcharge has a global cooldown of 60 seconds shared between every Nexus. A Nexus' build time is 71 seconds. It takes about 63 seconds to generate 50 energy.
@@SawyerSGN Oops! Sorry. I only watch SC2 these days. I haven't played in ages so I thought each Nexus had their own cool down for Battery Overcharge. Thanks for the correction!
Its because the corruptor caustic spray cooldown is 30 seconds but doesnt start cooling down until he is done spraying. So its usually 20ish seconds that hes spraying. Battery overcharge cooldown is 60 seconds so it will always be ready again before the nexus dies
@@kaiser2261 23:36 "5 battery overcharge in 5 minutes" ... yep, math checks out XD
Love the corrupter cheese. Maybe this is a noob suggestion but I feel like if you had transitioned to broodlord, corrupter, crack-lings you would have had that game in the bag. Nothing he could have made really counters that and the transition to skytoss would have been impossible on his eco
Big fan of these Zerg episodes, well done uThermal
That last guy must've been replicating your silver league micro to GM challenge =D
That second game.
Pretty sure that is the biggest throw we have ever seen from UThermal.
Please dont try this at home people :D
That first game was awesome. Perfect execution.
There are few things more delightful than uTherm accidentally winning before he means to
Recently the corruptor spray stayed on as the Terran base flew away
thats right! it doesnt go on cooldown - it keeps going !!!
Corruptors look so OP. I feel like if he makes more corruptors and keeps killing bases with zergling corrruptor instead of switching to infestor, he just wins.
Guys, I only brought a grilled cheese and a beer to this fight. Oh yes, is it actually enough! Look at that micro, oh my gosh we just won that fight.
If you need therapy, watch uThermal win the first game, throw the second, and destroy in the third. You will be free of all your troubles. Thank you for the great video.
"I should just make drones here."
While normally I laugh at this, it was kinda painful in the second game. Still, GGs.
That lag spike was so opportunistically timed I had to google if lag buttons exist and they do
The definition of "instant karma": Toss being toss and blocking your natural. You block their natural with a hatch, then steel their gas!
I hope to see Marc's Piss Cannon cheese in a supermajor one day
I wonder if the CD of Battery Overcharge is reset when you build a new Nexus.
These games were so much fun!
Would love to see mass Queens 👑
snatching defeat from the jaws of victory on that 2nd match there
Battery Overcharge is always off cooldown because it's a brand new Nexus.
Happy birthday marc ! 🎉🎉
PEE STRAT!!!
URinal strats.
I wonder if the overcharge cool down gets reset when a new nexus is built or something.
I was thinking the same thing. It did look really fast.
I just remember solaris is solar's home map. So it goes fast and you gna learn to take a punch.
Alright Mark the corruptor build looks sick but I think you need banelings with a 1850 gas bank it seems borderline criminal.
I have been waiting for this since zerg challenges started!!
Love your content! What are your thoughts on team games? Would love to see content around that, as I only play team game. Thanks
i really wanna see the corruptor cheese alive! at the 2nd game the problem was that you didnt commit on destroying 3 protoss base at the same time while harassing with lings
actually.. i will love to see you using banelings as i used to too, try to~ i dare you~ full banelings vs army buildings and bases while harassing with zerglings/mutas, i know it sounds as a horrible strategy.. you only need 10 banes to break down the walls, and the rest to destroy the army buildings like barrarks or so, it's funny to see how your opponent losses his mind while doing it, just for fun~
Did you notice the thumbnail looks like a glorious peacock? Never thought I'd associate corruptors with pauwen! :D
Creep to GM: no fights off creep
a semi-allin.... hmm? can we call it HALF-IN ?
i think at 14:48 you expand twice and drone up probably win tbh
more corrupter build please 😁😁
Zerg CAN do whatever they want. It is the ultimate race.
If you spam mutas and he phoenix, then use his buildings as bounces to nullify his range advantage
Check the 1st guys win loss and make sure he didnt use a bug to draw the game. Keeps happening to my Bro
that first game must have bern an ALT F4 exit hahaha
Great stuff
Ling corruptor swarm host would be a disgusting build
Will do
MORE LING CORRUPTOR PLEASE
as a protoss, I like baiting out corruptors because then I make ground and end the game.
making sc fun again
Thanks for saying please I will try it now that you said please
Against Terrans, what about a Corruptor "hit squad" designed to take out supply depots, which can't move? Or can depots simply be rebuilt too quickly to be worth trying to supply block the opponent?
Challenge suggestion: afk during the two first minutes 😅
No action allowed, starting play at 2'01'' and try to win
No one expects mass corruptors
Hilarious that you just never took the natural
I started rooting for the protoss there. I have spire cheese ptsd.
Интересно, я думал у них не отображаются отечественные никнеймы :D
21:30 - you lost because you weren't expanding behind your attacks and not getting ready to transition or upgrade LOL
Just didn't build enough drones in that second game
Was the second game a standalone Silver Macro? ;-)
Amazing amazing AMAZING
battery same cooldown as corruptor spray?
7:20 this isnt worth it to make the hatchery here. it's just wasted minerals, he will just click the zealot onto it and you will have to cancel. it's just 75 wasted minerals, just save the cash and scout with it.
That second game was tilting, just take the safe expansions already 😭
a semi all in.... thats only okay in starcraft!
i can now say my creep spread is on grandmaster lvl haha
One day Marc will learn to build more workers :) In his every video he says that his economy is trash and barely does anything about it :) Although if he is a monster with bad ecomony, what will he do with a healthy one?
Corruptor rush to brootlord
or mass ling adreno
How about broodlords?
In a battle against my brother I´ve destroyed 2/3 carriers with one corruptor
That Corrupter game was really sloppy
How do you make Starcraft look good? Whenever i play (i want casual) i'm always like... yo... i need more base spaces and the minerals run out too quickly for no reason...
That loss against protoss... it annoyed me you didn't build more queens and hatcheries ot the north and more drones... you had so many minerals for a long time... If you got all the nexus, there is always a chance they can't build naother one. I like the concept and attack as it worked well.. If you did a corruptor rush, could work.. 3 nexus, 5 corruptors to each... Zeroing out all nexus's can cause problems... the other problem is defending and investmetn with it, but corruptors are actualy lreally useful early game and do not take away too much and have pretty good transition into brood lord behind their main base, hidden brood lord change and hten wipe out their main or use it as an attack... but yeah looked fun.
Corruptor Roach is the gg
The hatch had 22hp at 7:56. So close
"more normal than I would normally play" more normal for who?
The corruptor game was epic, if only you went all in with corruptor instead of transitioning into infestor, they were kinda useless for the rest of the game.
*caustic spray
Game2 bloody hell how do you kill his nexus's like 4-5 times and he still comes at you "easily" enough
Queen only to gm?
How about corrupter cheese on their pylons or supply depots then ling flood them
❤
The batteries were off cooldown all the time, because he rebuild the Nexi over and over. The cooldown is separate on all of the bases. :DD
Corrupter ling bane to GM? Lol
Try contaminate cheese
disgusting but fun!
not sure why youd go infestors bro, you threw an otherwise ez pz win ,lol
Stupid losing in first game
first :)
Zerg units are so broken for multiplayer.
Infestor: Area of effect damage spell that not only shreds Terran and Zerg infantry, but also reveals all clocked units. Can also instantly mind-control large, expensive units.
Corruptor: HIghly armored, fast, relatively cheap flyer that can melt enemy buildings despite being under constant attack from ground or air.
Brood Lord: At least was nerfed slightly, but is still a long range siege weapon that does double damage to ground units and can be protected by aforementioned armored flying units when they take a break from nuking buildings.
Lurker: Cloaked siege unit with area of effect damage that shreds units or buildings incredibly fast.
The only way to beat zerg in multiplayer at a higher level is to micro the shit out of them, get incredibly lucky, and prevent them from ever reaching flying units.
Infestors suck….