My name is James, I am a member of the Atterbury/Bakalar Air Museum in Columbus Indiana. We did a restoration and static display of a C-119. We had the 71st SOS (C-119 Gunship) and the 434th Troop Carrier Wing that also flew the C-119 out of our airport. A couple of us would like to talk with you about any parts (flight deck, avionics, paratainer delivery rail, etc) that you won’t need. We have videos of the exact opposite, putting the whole thing back together. Can you share contact info so we can reach out to you?
@@SonexB_N239SX when you guys do a " static " restoration does this mean it's not intended to be functional ,I don't think I asking this right,I know you're not going to fly it but do you make it actually capable of engine starts?
@@Redbaron_siteslong term aspirations would be to get an engine started. Either one on or off the airplane. As for the aircraft we had it disassembled at all the assembly points and reassembled to maintain the structural integrity of the airframe. In theory it could be made to fly again….with the money and knowledge, but that’s beyond our capacity.
I know that old 119 was beyond practical restoration but it is still kinda sad to see it pulled apart for the last time. Would love to have flown one. Amazing engineering.
I was involved in a couple of similar projects years ago- dewinging and moving a Lancaster bomber and a Neptune for our museum, the catch is the wings had to go back on. We did such an awesome job we got volunteered into dismantling a CP-107 Argus, trucking it to the museum and reassembling outside during the snowiest winter we'd had in years... it has a 144ft wingspan.
I was a FE on C-119’s for 8 1/2 years in the 60’s and 70’s. Our Unit the 130th AW was the very last AF Unit to fly the 119’s and took ours to the Boneyard in September 1975. That one you bought is a C-119L. In early 70’s several C-119G’s were converted to “L”s by removing the 4 blade Aeroproducts Props and converting to a more efficient 3 blade Hamilton Standard prop off of C-121 Connie’s that were already in the Boneyard being scrapped. You will discover that the 119 had a Paratainer drop system that put cargo in drop bags on a rail system and had doors in the bottom of the fuselage that open much like Bombay doors on bombers to drop the paratainers out the bottom. Have dropped a lot of paratroopers at Fort Bragg out of 119’s, (out the back troop doors) they loved jumping the 119’s. I have flown all over South America and even to England and Germany in our 119’s back in the day. I first started flying in C-119C’s that had R4360 “corncob” engines, then the G and L’s that had R3350’s like yours. Rugged old bird ! Fully loaded came in at 72,000 pounds. It will make a great “motel” 😊 Sure hope no broken bones from that horrible fall ! 😮
Wow, sorry man, but got to say that I’m not surprised someone didn’t get hurt earlier when taking the retaining hubs off the prop without the prop being slung. As a heavy diesel mechanic and pilot myself it looks like a great project, a bit rough tho, wish I was actually part of it. Stay safe
Second entry. When you called the airplane a "Boxcar" that brought back memories. Back in the 60's in my hometown of Rockford IL I used to see them fly over head in formation I was told they were on their way to an unfun country that was in the news at the time, a lot.
You should turn the fuselage into a small man cave and use the parts to build up the FOTPhoenix escape airplane mockup. A c119 is close enough to the c82 for us pilots IMO. Show the movie, charge admission, serve food and beer
Man, you really gotta take safety more seriously. There were already plenty of close calls and, "i didnt expect that to happen" cuts to imply that there wasnt a whole lot of safety planning put into this teardown
Yeah, like when they took the first propeller off and it daмn near smashed the lift? Or at 8:06 when they show the guy trying to use a hammer who clearly has no business being anywhere near any tools whatsoever- I had to quit watching, I don't feel like seeing anyone or anything needlessly eliminated from the life cycle.
The folks who said you could just fly it out should be invited as passengers and crew for the occasion. Once you pulled that wing panel and exposed the decades of corrosion it's obvious why this bird will never take to the skies again.
Glad to see you bought it. 2 years ago I was in the bidding “war” with the purchaser you bought it from. The museum I guess had enough with it… I’m glad I lost the live action bid! But it was fun and a good story. Also, nice job, honestly you were safe enough for Alaska, especially considering the amazing help you received from the purchaser… Knowing them they probably gave you a week or some deadline to get it off their ramp. ;)
Auctions are funny sometimes.. I once was bidding on a retired Navy lifeboat.. in the bidding to $2,800, watched it go for $3400.. then a year later, same boat came up again.. winning bidder before couldn't figure out the logistics to move it, so didn't pay for it. This time around, I was the winning bidder for $1,300. Took another $6k to get it home..
Many years ago, I had an NCOIC who was a WW2 Vet, he was in the third wave at Normandy and used to call in P-47s to attack German armor. He later flew as a radio operator on C-119s. Told us a story how they had a runaway prop while flying from Bermuda to Tyndall AFB FL. It vibrated so much, in his words, ”It ripped off the engine, so we feathered the firewall.” They called Air Sea rescue and soon were met by a B-17 with a lifeboat slung under it. He said how they flew in formation for some time, but even with only one engine soon they outpaced the old bomber. The told the rescue plane, unless anything bad happens we will see you back in FL. They had been on the ramp for 20 minutes or so before the B-17 finally made back. I guess those boats created a LOT of drag.
I laughed pretty damn hard at "feather the firewall"....lucky the vibration didn't knock the tailbooms off. Pretty damn good story, glad they made it back without going swimming.
its impossible to get this air worthy again(nothing is impossible, but you guys know what I mean). Would be really incredible to see this aircraft in the air again. Amazing aircraft sir. Thank you for saving her and not scrapping her.
Sad to see, like the scuttling of a venerable old ship. I think this is the airplane I saw in Port of Spain Trinidad in the early 2000s that the H&P crew was flying back to Wyoming after filming the second Flight of The Phoenix movie in the Sahara desert. The odd-ball, round-tipped, 3-blade props stood out, as I'd never seen those on a Turbo-Compound powered C-119.
Have you figured out where that plane was built ? I live close to Willow Run , where the B-24's were built , and after WW2 , the same plant built some of the Flying Box cars .
Lol, Everts already has a beautiful but rotting C-119 up in Fairbanks with a jet engine strapped to the roof, and nose art that says "Know Fear". I took some pics of if while on TDY, and that sent me down a rabbit hole on researching C-119s.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 your not gonna scrap her are you? I'd personally like to see her in the same state as your other aircraft, you could convert her to a communal area like you said a bar, restaurant or something else, maybe build an imitation airport building that compliments her like a terminal or something to increase her capacity? Sorry if I seem too forward, I just have a massive passion for everything aviation and it hurts to see them go.
Watched these planes fly over my house when I was a kid on their way to land at a local Navy Base. Saw my first sky divers jump out of one too during one of the many AIRSHOWS at the base. 50 years later and the base has closed, but I'll always remember these Box Cars flying over my house as a young boy.
oowwwwwwch. Hope you were relatively OK after that fall. Airplane houses! So very cool, I want one! Unfortunately I don't think they'd let me have one in the city... Thanks for sharing.
🎉 congratulations on your purchase. I thought about picking this plane up myself. But… I’m sure this wasn’t cheap and obviously it was a accomplishment getting it moved. To a site big enough to give it a home. I only have a half acre. 😅. Lawn art beats the scrap yard any day.
Emotive story. Feelings...makes me amazed that all that clanking, oil spewing machinery ever did fly. I salute your work ethic and goals. I vote for eventual coffee shop.
I *might* have been involved in getting that C-119 (I assume?) ready in Arlington, Wa. for it's trip to Anchorage in '81. If so, I did get to fly in it from Anchorage to King Salmon with a pallet of 2X4s and plywood, nails, a Skil saw and hammers. They dropped us off at KS airport and we had until sundown (3 or 4 AM) for the four of us to build our cabin and bunk beds. The salmon never really ran that year. Sucked.
You could fly it to Alaska, in about 10 years! First clue, no instruments in the Panels. Then you have to go through everything to make sure it’s airworthy. Check the wing spars for cracks, rewire anything that has aged to badly etc. then you have to go through the engines, and that takes time and money. And there are lots of things I didn’t mention, like hydraulic systems and so much more that listing them will turn into a novel.
A while back, Jimmy Buffett's sea plane was owned by a couple who inherited it. They could not afford to pay the tax on the property which included a 2000' runway. They tried to sell the plane, no buyers. They tried to donate it to a museum. No takers. The reason? The Grumman HU-16 Albatross had been sitting a few years and the cost of getting it ready just to ferry to a nearby airport was just too expensive even though these planes would sell for almost a million dollars if airworthy. At last word, the people sold the property, but the buyers had a provision the plane was removed. So my guess is it was cut up for scrap. Haven't heard. So long Hemisphere Dancer. Too bad this guy who wanted the Fairchild didn't know about Buffett's plane. Might have been easier to make the Albatross airworthy and fly it home.
I though Hemisphere Dancer ended up at Universal Studios in Orlando. I know I saw a seaplane there called the Hemisphere Dancer placed next to a restaurant named Margaritaville last time I went there.
Yup, should have flown it out of there. When are you coming back to Las Cruces? There's an air show on the 19th...
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The airplane would break the bank trying to get into airworthy condition. Then there is the fight with the local FSDO trying to get a ferry permit. If the engines are not serviceable, then you are looking at somewhere around 200,000 bucks each for overhauled engines. The P&W R2800 engines are expensive.
Always thought that is a handsome plane. Glad you are diving in to save it. Best of luck. Have to admit I cringe whenever a part gets 'thrown.' Port-A-Potty. Lines might be slow though.
LOVE that ball cap of yours... I've a large collection of Aviation Ball Caps but not yours🤔.... Yet... how do I get a nice new one ?... The Move looks like a lot of work, Good Luck.😁
Appreciate it, been a ton of work to get it up and running...Super fun though to have folks here staying in the planes and flying with us! Hope to see you up here in AK sometime!
A nice piece of aviation history. My mother was the secretary for a National Guard airlift unit at O'hare Field in Chicago back in the 1960s and they flew the C-119s. It was cool to visit her office. It was just a small building and when you stepped out the back door it was right onto the flight line and the C-119s were backed up to the door. And while I did explore the interior of those planes I never did get a ride in one.
I've examined that plane up close. I was wondering who in the heck would ever buy it. Restoring it would cost a fortune. Making an rv out of it is a great idea. Maybe a giant house boat on big lake.
It's complicated science most can't understand, but I'd go to Harbor Freight or Tractor Supply (also buy 4 pallets of Purina One Liver, Onion & Pheasant Dog Food) and buy exactly 27 12' X12' tarps. Sew 17 of them together to make a main sail, 5 for a jib and 5 for a jab. On second thought, buy an extra 15 - 12' X12' tarps and a couple more pallets of dog food in case of rough sailing. Just in case, buy 3 teams of sled dogs. (and you wondered about the dog food, didn't you!). It's helpful if sled dogs can swim. In the absence of sled dogs, buy 7 former Sears trolling motors, (definitely Sears) with DieHards, sell the dog food and buy 7 former Sears 140K BTU Reddy Heaters -- (light jet turbines) -- melts ice on lakes and rivers so you can sail just like summer. For summer, sail it home, for winter sled or maybe sail it home. One of the plane's engines should work to speed your project along.
What the heck is the name of that big torque multiplier on the prop to get the prop nut off? I have not used one or seen one in such a long time I have forgotten? Thanks
These planes were innovative when I was a kid. After the C-47 had been what we thought of as a cargo plane, the C-119 was a marvel. It would be cool to know where this one has served.
I lived in Moses Point up by Nome in the 60’s. Wein had a C82 loose an engine there and it took them a couple of months to change it out and fly it back to Anch. Bothe of them had the jet engine on the top. My Dad was the station mgr and we flew on the 123 that in the Wasilla museum many times as well as all of the DC3’s. I’ve got a place out KGB /Wasilla and would love to visit your compound. I just subscribed
My Dad rode in one. He said that's the most airsick he's ever gotten in an airplane. He said they named it the Vomit Comet because it gave a funky ride
John said: February 4th 1958, aC-119 crashed into a cornfield in Chicago at O'Hare airport. My dad was the navigator on that flight. C119 was a dangerous airplane.,
@@CarnivoreCurin Yes, using the date you gave and the plane make (February 4th 1958, C-119 crash). Just wanted to be sure people got out (as obviously either you were born beforehand or your dad made it), so hopefully you find more details.
Too bad that plane isn’t air worth. I absolutely LOVE the look of those things. It’s just a beautiful design. I wish they still made aircraft like that.
Always sad to see an aircraft that can not be restored but I am sure that there were many unseen corrosion issues including perhaps the wing spars. I vote a RV build as the Jimmy's World Elvis Jet turned out great. Yeah, on your opening cockpit view I could tell from the looks of the many missing instruments that it would take a lot of effort just to get the cockpit into shape let alone the engines. Take care and best wishes to this project.
Maybe restore it into a taxi or engine startup only kind of deal (if possible) those engines are musical, hate to see it become dormant. but i understand if not worth it.
My grandfather flew them in Korea. He told a story about dropping paratroopers...inviting them up to the flight deck, hiding in the flight engineers cubicle and wiring white parade gloves to the yoke. Apparently the autopilot would jerk the yoke back and forth. The guy who ran out the cabin thought the plane was haunted and never wanted to fly again...
Ok I lived in Anchorage for a decade and remember that Flying COFFIN (C119) out past Rusts flying service off of lake hood, IF I remember there were 2 of them in the beginning around 1982? Should make a pretty good place to live in. Best of luck with the lift unit you need, I'd BUY one if you are going to expand your aircraft "PARK" Leon Brown From Browns Electric (Mountainview) gave me a cabin @ Biglake , I bet it has really developed out there?
Ouch! I fell from the tail door of a 747-200 thinking I was stepping on the hi-lift, fortunately I bounced and only bruised just about everything, two days of hospital and home 😂
I think I know why you didn't just fly it back. For starters it hasn't ran in a very long time and so there's most likely a lot of work that needs to be done and plus if I'm not mistaken just like cars and trucks it needs to be registered and has to meet certain safety regulations before you can even fly it and that can take a long time and you don't have that much time to wait so you're just going to truck it there.
Would've been cool to ride on one back in the day...I think I'd be too sketched out to fly in any of them now after having taken it apart and seeing how it was built.
My absolute dream airplane! That or the Grumman albatross. There’s no way of getting her flying again in the future? Probably needs more time and money than the entire GDP of the US, just curious. Thanks!
I've always loved that aircraft they used to fly over from Mather doing Vietnam stuff I guess and I'm having a big Flight of the Phoenix moment here and I'm loving it
Ouch. Back in early 2000s flying Twin Otters out of Bethel we FOs had to broom the frost off the wings and tail in the morning. Some of us would get up on the wings since it was faster and a lot easier than from a ladder, but it was slippery as hell and high off the ground. After almost sliding off once I never went up there again, it was super sketchy. One of our guys managed to fall brooming the horizontal stab from a ladder, and like you broke his arm. Luckily nothing else. I hated that part of the job. Man you are lucky, that thing is way higher than the Otter wing.
I don’t understand. Jimmy Stewart did it in the desert and flew it out!
Love the comment. That was a C82. haha
Lmao, but only like 40% of the plane
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Hahahahahahahhaha
I have an idea , u still don’t have an ATC , I know it hard but mount it vertically and make it the best air traffic control tower in Alaska 😉
I'm glad it's being saved instead of scrapped,
but still sad to watch...
My name is James, I am a member of the Atterbury/Bakalar Air Museum in Columbus Indiana. We did a restoration and static display of a C-119. We had the 71st SOS (C-119 Gunship) and the 434th Troop Carrier Wing that also flew the C-119 out of our airport. A couple of us would like to talk with you about any parts (flight deck, avionics, paratainer delivery rail, etc) that you won’t need.
We have videos of the exact opposite, putting the whole thing back together.
Can you share contact info so we can reach out to you?
@@SonexB_N239SX when you guys do a " static " restoration does this mean it's not intended to be functional ,I don't think I asking this right,I know you're not going to fly it but do you make it actually capable of engine starts?
@@Redbaron_siteslong term aspirations would be to get an engine started. Either one on or off the airplane. As for the aircraft we had it disassembled at all the assembly points and reassembled to maintain the structural integrity of the airframe. In theory it could be made to fly again….with the money and knowledge, but that’s beyond our capacity.
REAL MAN WOULD JUST JUMP IN HOLLER "CLEAR" FLY IT HOME MUST BE A " GIRLEY BOY" LOVE YOUR VIDEO KEEP IT UP
There's 3 of these at the bighorn aviator field in greybull wy
@@Luke_Randall The C-119 at the Atterbury-Bakalar Air Museum came from Greybull.
I know that old 119 was beyond practical restoration but it is still kinda sad to see it pulled apart for the last time. Would love to have flown one. Amazing engineering.
You can fix anything if you are motivated enough.
@@Lurch-Bot And throw enough money at it.
I was involved in a couple of similar projects years ago- dewinging and moving a Lancaster bomber and a Neptune for our museum, the catch is the wings had to go back on. We did such an awesome job we got volunteered into dismantling a CP-107 Argus, trucking it to the museum and reassembling outside during the snowiest winter we'd had in years... it has a 144ft wingspan.
I was a FE on C-119’s for 8 1/2 years in the 60’s and 70’s. Our Unit the 130th AW was the very last AF Unit to fly the 119’s and took ours to the Boneyard in September 1975. That one you bought is a C-119L. In early 70’s several C-119G’s were converted to “L”s by removing the 4 blade Aeroproducts Props and converting to a more efficient 3 blade Hamilton Standard prop off of C-121 Connie’s that were already in the Boneyard being scrapped. You will discover that the 119 had a Paratainer drop system that put cargo in drop bags on a rail system and had doors in the bottom of the fuselage that open much like Bombay doors on bombers to drop the paratainers out the bottom. Have dropped a lot of paratroopers at Fort Bragg out of 119’s, (out the back troop doors) they loved jumping the 119’s. I have flown all over South America and even to England and Germany in our 119’s back in the day. I first started flying in C-119C’s that had R4360 “corncob” engines, then the G and L’s that had R3350’s like yours. Rugged old bird ! Fully loaded came in at 72,000 pounds. It will make a great “motel” 😊 Sure hope no broken bones from that horrible fall ! 😮
Thanks for the info.
Wow, sorry man, but got to say that I’m not surprised someone didn’t get hurt earlier when taking the retaining hubs off the prop without the prop being slung.
As a heavy diesel mechanic and pilot myself it looks like a great project, a bit rough tho, wish I was actually part of it.
Stay safe
Come on up and help with the next one! Can always use another set of hands!
Saying "It almost killed me" is like sitting on the branch your chopping off a tree and then complaining when you fall with the branch
The test pilot for this design taught Flight Test class at CPSLO in the 90s, very memorable.
Second entry. When you called the airplane a "Boxcar" that brought back memories. Back in the 60's in my hometown of Rockford IL I used to see them fly over head in formation I was told they were on their way to an unfun country that was in the news at the time, a lot.
You should turn the fuselage into a small man cave and use the parts to build up the FOTPhoenix escape airplane mockup. A c119 is close enough to the c82 for us pilots IMO. Show the movie, charge admission, serve food and beer
Haha....I love it! I think that is the best idea yet... make it into the flight of the Phoenix bar!
Man, you really gotta take safety more seriously. There were already plenty of close calls and, "i didnt expect that to happen" cuts to imply that there wasnt a whole lot of safety planning put into this teardown
No kidding I was cringing multiple times throughout the video. And think how many sketchy things they probably did when the camera wasn't rolling 😂
Yeah, like when they took the first propeller off and it daмn near smashed the lift? Or at 8:06 when they show the guy trying to use a hammer who clearly has no business being anywhere near any tools whatsoever- I had to quit watching, I don't feel like seeing anyone or anything needlessly eliminated from the life cycle.
Gen Z!🙄
Awesome video! Love your work good sir! We have one of those Everest Cargo DC6 in our school hangar for maintenance right now. Keep up the great work!
Thank you! Will do!
God Bless you Brother! You take on projects that I and most others can only dream about. Good luck and be careful.
Thank you, I will!
The folks who said you could just fly it out should be invited as passengers and crew for the occasion. Once you pulled that wing panel and exposed the decades of corrosion it's obvious why this bird will never take to the skies again.
Wow! That property is looking spectacular! Congrats on team new plane and all that hard work! Just amazing!
Thank you! It's been a fun and wild process, but happy to see it come together!
Glad to see you bought it. 2 years ago I was in the bidding “war” with the purchaser you bought it from. The museum I guess had enough with it… I’m glad I lost the live action bid! But it was fun and a good story. Also, nice job, honestly you were safe enough for Alaska, especially considering the amazing help you received from the purchaser… Knowing them they probably gave you a week or some deadline to get it off their ramp. ;)
Haha...I was ready to walk out on day 2, unfortunately had already written the check. The hot potato is now all mine! lol
Auctions are funny sometimes.. I once was bidding on a retired Navy lifeboat.. in the bidding to $2,800, watched it go for $3400.. then a year later, same boat came up again.. winning bidder before couldn't figure out the logistics to move it, so didn't pay for it. This time around, I was the winning bidder for $1,300. Took another $6k to get it home..
TaleSpin!! I used to love that TV show as a kid. If you were keeping it whole, i'd say paint it yellow and the nose red!
Many years ago, I had an NCOIC who was a WW2 Vet, he was in the third wave at Normandy and used to call in P-47s to attack German armor. He later flew as a radio operator on C-119s. Told us a story how they had a runaway prop while flying from Bermuda to Tyndall AFB FL. It vibrated so much, in his words, ”It ripped off the engine, so we feathered the firewall.” They called Air Sea rescue and soon were met by a B-17 with a lifeboat slung under it. He said how they flew in formation for some time, but even with only one engine soon they outpaced the old bomber. The told the rescue plane, unless anything bad happens we will see you back in FL. They had been on the ramp for 20 minutes or so before the B-17 finally made back. I guess those boats created a LOT of drag.
I laughed pretty damn hard at "feather the firewall"....lucky the vibration didn't knock the tailbooms off. Pretty damn good story, glad they made it back without going swimming.
its impossible to get this air worthy again(nothing is impossible, but you guys know what I mean). Would be really incredible to see this aircraft in the air again. Amazing aircraft sir. Thank you for saving her and not scrapping her.
Its wonderful. Thankyou for saving it.
I KNOW that plane! I used to see it all the time when I was flying for Atlas!
Been sitting for a long time....fun to get to actually do something with it
Sad to see, like the scuttling of a venerable old ship. I think this is the airplane I saw in Port of Spain Trinidad in the early 2000s that the H&P crew was flying back to Wyoming after filming the second Flight of The Phoenix movie in the Sahara desert. The odd-ball, round-tipped, 3-blade props stood out, as I'd never seen those on a Turbo-Compound powered C-119.
Have you figured out where that plane was built ? I live close to Willow Run , where the B-24's were built , and after WW2 , the same plant built some of the Flying Box cars .
I'll have to take a look! I used to have a hangar at KYIP back in the day, super cool airport, lots of good history there
Lol, Everts already has a beautiful but rotting C-119 up in Fairbanks with a jet engine strapped to the roof, and nose art that says "Know Fear". I took some pics of if while on TDY, and that sent me down a rabbit hole on researching C-119s.
The Everts one is still there in FAI.
I really think this C-119 should be a coffee shop, fully rebuilt like your other aircraft!
If only I liked coffee more! I vote bar
I would have scrapped for a profit of $150,000 minus expenses. 😊❤
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 your not gonna scrap her are you?
I'd personally like to see her in the same state as your other aircraft, you could convert her to a communal area like you said a bar, restaurant or something else, maybe build an imitation airport building that compliments her like a terminal or something to increase her capacity?
Sorry if I seem too forward, I just have a massive passion for everything aviation and it hurts to see them go.
Watched these planes fly over my house when I was a kid on their way to land at a local Navy Base. Saw my first sky divers jump out of one too during one of the many AIRSHOWS at the base. 50 years later and the base has closed, but I'll always remember these Box Cars flying over my house as a young boy.
No instruments? No ticket? Nah, you just bottled it. ;) It's a 119. It'd be fine for a few more airmiles. haha
oowwwwwwch. Hope you were relatively OK after that fall. Airplane houses! So very cool, I want one! Unfortunately I don't think they'd let me have one in the city... Thanks for sharing.
Appreciate it! Getting better and back in the air soon!
🎉 congratulations on your purchase. I thought about picking this plane up myself. But… I’m sure this wasn’t cheap and obviously it was a accomplishment getting it moved. To a site big enough to give it a home. I only have a half acre. 😅. Lawn art beats the scrap yard any day.
Hahaha....might just save it for the kids to have a badass tree house!
Emotive story. Feelings...makes me amazed that all that clanking, oil spewing machinery ever did fly. I salute your work ethic and goals. I vote for eventual coffee shop.
I *might* have been involved in getting that C-119 (I assume?) ready in Arlington, Wa. for it's trip to Anchorage in '81. If so, I did get to fly in it from Anchorage to King Salmon with a pallet of 2X4s and plywood, nails, a Skil saw and hammers. They dropped us off at KS airport and we had until sundown (3 or 4 AM) for the four of us to build our cabin and bunk beds. The salmon never really ran that year. Sucked.
Ha...might have been the same bird...I think it last flew in the 80s
That's an awesome story - sorry the fishing was poor, but flying in and building your own shelter almost sounds like a reality TV premise.
BTW I love that plane, Jimmy Stewart flew it!
You could fly it to Alaska, in about 10 years! First clue, no instruments in the Panels. Then you have to go through everything to make sure it’s airworthy. Check the wing spars for cracks, rewire anything that has aged to badly etc. then you have to go through the engines, and that takes time and money.
And there are lots of things I didn’t mention, like hydraulic systems and so much more that listing them will turn into a novel.
I'd expect it wold be more than a million things to fix before it would fly, those "things" being dollars.
A while back, Jimmy Buffett's sea plane was owned by a couple who inherited it. They could not afford to pay the tax on the property which included a 2000' runway. They tried to sell the plane, no buyers. They tried to donate it to a museum. No takers. The reason? The Grumman HU-16 Albatross had been sitting a few years and the cost of getting it ready just to ferry to a nearby airport was just too expensive even though these planes would sell for almost a million dollars if airworthy. At last word, the people sold the property, but the buyers had a provision the plane was removed. So my guess is it was cut up for scrap. Haven't heard. So long Hemisphere Dancer. Too bad this guy who wanted the Fairchild didn't know about Buffett's plane. Might have been easier to make the Albatross airworthy and fly it home.
shes still kicking. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/HU-16C_Hemisphere_Dancer_N928J_at_Margaritaville.jpg
I though Hemisphere Dancer ended up at Universal Studios in Orlando. I know I saw a seaplane there called the Hemisphere Dancer placed next to a restaurant named Margaritaville last time I went there.
Ooooouch, gorgeous big Aircraft. Would have been greatto see it restored
Yup, should have flown it out of there.
When are you coming back to Las Cruces? There's an air show on the 19th...
The airplane would break the bank trying to get into airworthy condition. Then there is the fight with the local FSDO trying to get a ferry permit. If the engines are not serviceable, then you are looking at somewhere around 200,000 bucks each for overhauled engines. The P&W R2800 engines are expensive.
W-3350
the OSHA violations are EPIC! Keep up the great vids!
We operate on OSHIT rather than OSHA
My FIL was a crew chief on a C-119A during the Korean War. Happy to see one saved from the scrap yard even if it’s not flying anymore.
Hope to give it a new life for another 20 or 30 years more!
I live on the island of Corsica near a foreign legion camp and they we’re using the same plane for parachute practice , amazing to see it flying
In Corsica it was probably a Nord Noratlas - similar to the C-119 in configuration though maybe slightly smaller.
OSHA is having a conniption watching this.
lol
Flying Box Car?!!!!!
I used to see these fly! Too bad she is so far gone!
I saw that listing on market place for a while and thought, that’s cool, I bet this guy will buy it. Sure enough!
Always thought that is a handsome plane. Glad you are diving in to save it. Best of luck. Have to admit I cringe whenever a part gets 'thrown.' Port-A-Potty. Lines might be slow though.
LOVE that ball cap of yours... I've a large collection of Aviation Ball Caps but not yours🤔.... Yet... how do I get a nice new one ?... The Move looks like a lot of work, Good Luck.😁
I looked at your website renting Airplanes as Hotel Rooms. What a cool idea. You're a hard worker.
Appreciate it, been a ton of work to get it up and running...Super fun though to have folks here staying in the planes and flying with us! Hope to see you up here in AK sometime!
Glad you didn’t get severely injured. Doesn’t matter if you’re flying planes or working on them….. Sketchy will get you hurt or killed.
Well the wright flyer was pretty sketch too, but ya know, gotta start somewhere or you wind up doing a whole lotta nothing.
When you bought the plane, did it come with an allen key and a little wrench 1/2 inch wrench ?
Dude I knew you were gonna be the one to buy it when it popped up on Facebook marketplace!!
Haha.... I turned it down a couple times until I couldn't help myself
You could see that coming, hope you have swift recovery.
Yeah right 😂, in nz we call it " sketchy "
A nice piece of aviation history. My mother was the secretary for a National Guard airlift unit at O'hare Field in Chicago back in the 1960s and they flew the C-119s. It was cool to visit her office. It was just a small building and when you stepped out the back door it was right onto the flight line and the C-119s were backed up to the door. And while I did explore the interior of those planes I never did get a ride in one.
I was in the last class to jump from these at Jump School Ft Benning GA. Noisy, unreal vibration from those twin tailbooms .
Hahaha...honestly I don't really think these were ever good planes, but still impressive they designed and built them without computers
I've examined that plane up close. I was wondering who in the heck would ever buy it. Restoring it would cost a fortune. Making an rv out of it is a great idea. Maybe a giant house boat on big lake.
Ooooo....I like the houseboat idea! Probably the quickest and easiest thing to mount it to
I remember this plane at PANC. I was hoping somebody would restore it. At least it's not just rotting on the ramp anymore.
🤔 You know? If you had left the engines and props on, then removed the booms and wings, you could have started the engines and drove it home. 😁
It's complicated science most can't understand, but I'd go to Harbor Freight or Tractor Supply (also buy 4 pallets of Purina One Liver, Onion & Pheasant Dog Food) and buy exactly 27 12' X12' tarps. Sew 17 of them together to make a main sail, 5 for a jib and 5 for a jab. On second thought, buy an extra 15 - 12' X12' tarps and a couple more pallets of dog food in case of rough sailing. Just in case, buy 3 teams of sled dogs. (and you wondered about the dog food, didn't you!). It's helpful if sled dogs can swim. In the absence of sled dogs, buy 7 former Sears trolling motors, (definitely Sears) with DieHards, sell the dog food and buy 7 former Sears 140K BTU Reddy Heaters -- (light jet turbines) -- melts ice on lakes and rivers so you can sail just like summer. For summer, sail it home, for winter sled or maybe sail it home. One of the plane's engines should work to speed your project along.
What the heck is the name of that big torque multiplier on the prop to get the prop nut off? I have not used one or seen one in such a long time I have forgotten? Thanks
That's a Sweeny Wrench.
These planes were innovative when I was a kid. After the C-47 had been what we thought of as a cargo plane, the C-119 was a marvel. It would be cool to know where this one has served.
I lived in Moses Point up by Nome in the 60’s. Wein had a C82 loose an engine there and it took them a couple of months to change it out and fly it back to Anch. Bothe of them had the jet engine on the top.
My Dad was the station mgr and we flew on the 123 that in the Wasilla museum many times as well as all of the DC3’s.
I’ve got a place out KGB /Wasilla and would love to visit your compound.
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My Dad rode in one. He said that's the most airsick he's ever gotten in an airplane. He said they named it the Vomit Comet because it gave a funky ride
That's a nice c-119. Don't see those much anymore
Pretty cool bird! Happier to be driving it around rather than flying it!
Do you have a runway and could you have prepped it enough and got a permit for a maintenance flight?
A Crown Coach bus chassis would be an appropriate platform to do the custom motorhome. Big, old school diesel power, and low center of gravity.
John said: February 4th 1958, aC-119 crashed into a cornfield in Chicago at O'Hare airport. My dad was the navigator on that flight. C119 was a dangerous airplane.,
Glad the crew made it with minimal injuries.
@davidg3944 did you look it up?
@davidg3944 I'm trying to find out who else was on the airplane.
@@CarnivoreCurin Yes, using the date you gave and the plane make (February 4th 1958, C-119 crash). Just wanted to be sure people got out (as obviously either you were born beforehand or your dad made it), so hopefully you find more details.
Does that have the W 3350's?
Sure does!
That is a scary drop, hope you're recovering well.
Much appreciated! The recovery is looking a little longer than I want it to be, but could always be worse
Too bad that plane isn’t air worth. I absolutely LOVE the look of those things. It’s just a beautiful design. I wish they still made aircraft like that.
No current certs. Nothing works. Great museum piece. Nice to talk about.
Wasn't this plane known as the plane that crews despised??? Looks like a good reason to just stay on the ground!!!!
Haha...I'm pretty sure towards the end of their day no one wanted to fly them
Always sad to see an aircraft that can not be restored but I am sure that there were many unseen corrosion issues including perhaps the wing spars. I vote a RV build as the Jimmy's World Elvis Jet turned out great. Yeah, on your opening cockpit view I could tell from the looks of the many missing instruments that it would take a lot of effort just to get the cockpit into shape let alone the engines. Take care and best wishes to this project.
Thank you! I certainly like the RV idea too!
Bring back our extension cords
Obviously you could fly it, but you would have to put gas in it, and they don’t sell regular gas anymore…
Let alone super high test avgas.
What a challenge. Thank goodness no one succumbed to serious injury!
Airplane home, do you use wood heat in those? pretty cool actually.
Where do you get your energy from? What you’re doing is monumental to say the least!
Maybe restore it into a taxi or engine startup only kind of deal (if possible) those engines are musical, hate to see it become dormant. but i understand if not worth it.
Those C -119's were fire fighting in Cali in the 70's , they had a jet engine on top , cool .
Do you have a runway of sorts?….if so the boom would make a great windsock !
The airplane would never fly again but it still hurts to see it hacked apart
The beautiful old plain I think it's a nordatlas ? $ 5000. Wow that's great 👍 👌
My grandfather flew them in Korea. He told a story about dropping paratroopers...inviting them up to the flight deck, hiding in the flight engineers cubicle and wiring white parade gloves to the yoke. Apparently the autopilot would jerk the yoke back and forth. The guy who ran out the cabin thought the plane was haunted and never wanted to fly again...
I can remember that plane still sitting there when I lived there in 2012 😂
Its been there quite awhile!
3:45. Those jugs and heads make really cool lamps.
Ok I lived in Anchorage for a decade and remember that Flying COFFIN (C119) out past Rusts flying service off of lake hood, IF I remember there were 2 of them in the beginning around 1982? Should make a pretty good place to live in. Best of luck with the lift unit you need, I'd BUY one if you are going to expand your aircraft "PARK" Leon Brown From Browns Electric (Mountainview) gave me a cabin @ Biglake , I bet it has really developed out there?
Love your pupper
She's the best!
Ouch! I fell from the tail door of a 747-200 thinking I was stepping on the hi-lift, fortunately I bounced and only bruised just about everything, two days of hospital and home 😂
WOW! I've always wanted a Boxcar fuselage in my backyard!!!
Its a pretty sick jungle gym!
I remember that 119. Thought it would have been scrapped by now.
Still alive and kicking!
I think I know why you didn't just fly it back. For starters it hasn't ran in a very long time and so there's most likely a lot of work that needs to be done and plus if I'm not mistaken just like cars and trucks it needs to be registered and has to meet certain safety regulations before you can even fly it and that can take a long time and you don't have that much time to wait so you're just going to truck it there.
Why not? All I had to do was watch for 3 seconds and YIKES
4:27 Did someone acquire an ex FedEx B-727? What is that being used for? Thanks.
Yup! Turning it into a lodge for our flight school here in Big Lake
I was a passenger several times on C-119's back in the mid sixties withe the 433rd Alamo Wing out of San Antonio Texas they were great birds!
Would've been cool to ride on one back in the day...I think I'd be too sketched out to fly in any of them now after having taken it apart and seeing how it was built.
wow..the flying boxcar..classic!
My absolute dream airplane! That or the Grumman albatross. There’s no way of getting her flying again in the future? Probably needs more time and money than the entire GDP of the US, just curious. Thanks!
Nothing a little ferry permit and several pieces of inop stickers can’t fix….and send it!!😂
lol
I've always loved that aircraft they used to fly over from Mather doing Vietnam stuff I guess and I'm having a big Flight of the Phoenix moment here and I'm loving it
Best idea I've heard so far is for us to turn it into a Flight of the Phoenix themed bar!
What will you do with the parts you remove?
Artwork and sell them most likely if we don't have a use for them around the lodge.
The engine cores are worth more than $5000 so you did good!!
Ouch. Back in early 2000s flying Twin Otters out of Bethel we FOs had to broom the frost off the wings and tail in the morning. Some of us would get up on the wings since it was faster and a lot easier than from a ladder, but it was slippery as hell and high off the ground. After almost sliding off once I never went up there again, it was super sketchy. One of our guys managed to fall brooming the horizontal stab from a ladder, and like you broke his arm. Luckily nothing else. I hated that part of the job. Man you are lucky, that thing is way higher than the Otter wing.
Highest I've been is sweeping off the tail of a 727...but luckily on that one I had a harness on. 38ft might do more damage than just an arm