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It's a screwdriver, for the love of evil! What kind of instructions could they possibly add? Also, who puts a drill index into the dishwasher?! That's where you cook your lasagna!
@@ShopHumor I would say that I actually know people who fit the "shouldn't use tools" description. Including several who have applied for jobs in my shop.
I think it’s important to point out the Klein 11-in-1 is meant for electrical work. The bits and nut drivers are designed for common fastener sizes in electrical components. It’s not meant to be a standard hex bit handle compatible with standard bits.
You're exactly right. I think a lot of people see screwdriver and bits and just think they're all interchangeable, so I feel like it's good to point it out in the video that they're not really compatible. The screwdriver works fine, just something to be mindful of.
@@JohnD-JohnDIn all honesty, I hardly carry any Klein tools anymore. Nothing wrong with them and still have plenty on my work van but just don’t get used too much anymore. I like the vast majority of Klein tools though and will vouch for them but they have started making more gimmicky tools over the past 5 years it seems. I think the only Klein tool in my bag rn currently is the electronics screwdriver with like 27 bits or something like that which I do love. Everything in my bag currently besides that is Knipex, Wera, PB Swiss, Vessel, Snap-on, Bahco, and a fluke multimeter. I do commercial/industrial hvac service. The Klein style multi bit screwdrivers are nice but always ended up loosing bits. Started preferring the push button style that is stored in the handle. Klein has options like that too, but just prefer others after trying them. I don’t seem to loose bits with that setup. Really love the intense magnetism from my Wera and PB Swiss driver. Especially for certain electrical work that’s crammed into a unit. All the shit a manufacturer has and possibly another transformer with IDEC relays to isolate controls, added phase monitors, Hawkeyes or what not lol. A lot to have to work around. Do quite a bit of Mitsubishi VRF as well where some of these tools are a godsend like the Wera zyclops ratchet set. Can’t go wrong with Klein though.
The "can't remove shaft from handle" thing may have come from a coworker. Guy got one through work and promptly decided to use it as a chisel and prybar, and jammed the shaft into the handle. Then he complained to Klein that it was junk, and demanded a replacement, but he got it through work, and they didn't let him get a replacement, so he was stuck with a broken driver.
Yup, I'm an electrician that made the same mistake. Took the shaft out and pulled out the opposing bits in a tight space and used the flat bit to tap a locknut tight. Now it doesn't like to come out or go in. I'm using the extended reach version (longer bits) which is absolutely the best one I have ever seen.
I need to hire the guy that was a sheet metal god in 3rd grade. I need him to teach my crew how to make a Huot with the tools in an elementary school metal shop.
I was an electrician for 40 years. The only problem I had with the Klein 11-in-1 was the bits would rust easy making them hard to pull out. I worked in all kinds of weather so was constantly cleaning the bits and spraying them with some kid of lubricant. But, overall it was a great go to screwdriver! One thing: DON'T use it as a chisel or beating screwdriver!!! I drove one of the bits into the handle and had one "h" of a time getting it unstuck from the handle!!
Yes at this and... I'm down to one bit. Flat and Philips large. Easy to loose the snap in bits Do not use the smaller 1/4 drive hex shafr to remove 1/4 headed screws. It will distort and the bits will not fit back in. Use the thicker one. As mine aged, the shaft to handle interface has become difficult to operate. Would I buy again? There are a lot of copies that are cheaper, so perhaps
I’m working in coastal Alaska so my tool bag occasionally turns into a bucket. I have the Milwaukee and Klein versions and both can rust together pretty easily. I spray them regularly. The Milwaukee version has shockingly tough bits and I don’t think that kind of toughness is possible in any stainless steel.
Thanks for the heads up on the rust, thankfully this one is going to see indoor use until my boy is a little older and starts to do outdoor projects, but I'll make sure he takes good care of the maintenance and rust prevention
the Klein 11-in-1 is probably my favorite screwdriver for doing electrical and maintenance work without my "real" tools The fact that it has two common sizes of nut drivers (when you pull the bits) 1/4" ,5/16" (I think) is epic. The only thing I would change about it is having some sort of bit retention... (like hollow handle) but Im not sure that would work for the design.
Changing one of the nut drivers to be a magnetic or spring clip 1/4" bit holder would be useful. My go-to electrical and appliance screwdriver is the 'free' Harbor Freight version which has only 1/4" and 5/16" nut drivers, two slotted and #1 and #2 philips. I don't need to be concerned about losing it, and when I need other tips it is usually a T-20 or hex.
I'm not joking when I say I have a dozen or more Klein 10-in-1s and 11-in-1s purchased over the last 25 years. Like many retired tradesmen, I have too many screwdrivers (well over 200, about 80 or so are the small precision ones) but I still use my multis about 75% of the time. Oh, for sh!t and giggles, I ordered every replacement bit Klein makes, and now all my multis have different bits, all Torx on one, Schrader and taps on another, etc. Edit: I checked some of my 11-in-1s and the Milwaukee is made in Thailand, the Klein and Greenlee are made in Taiwan, and the Bestway (Mayhew) and Proto are made in USA. Have some other brands but I only retired a few years ago so I'm not completely organized yet. Also have some old Stanley 4-in-1s and 6-in-1s from the '80, made in USA, of course.
That's awesome though. I'd love to have a collection like that and after putting in 25 years of hard work you definitely earned it. And very cool about the vast, complete assortment of bits!!
I'm a retired tradeswoman. Can't count all my screwdrivers, but I know I have 5 all-in-ones, 2 ratcheting and 3 not. And you can used them as hex drivers for the 2 most common sizes.
I have found most of the bad reviews are from people that don’t have a good understanding about the item they purchased. Others are just self documented episodes of user error. Even duck tape cannot fix stupid, it does help quite it down if placed correctly.
A lot of the worst ones I see are 'vine' reviews where they send free stuff to the seemingly most obnoxious people possible and half the time they act like they don't even know what the thing is
When I was the maintenance electrician at a large college, this Klein was always in my pocket. In a large building complex you are always going to run into loose wall plates, hand rails, door knobs etc. So handy just to fix it on the spot instead of running to the shop for tools or making a repair ticket for someone else to come and fix it. It came with me when I retired and I still use in at home.
The fact it has all the most common sizes in one tool is such a handy thing that its usually the FIRST tool I'd take along to any small fix task aside from something like a small hammer and a flashlight. If the task needs something other than those few things, that's when you need to see what you need and go take along the right tools in a tool bag / box along. The stubby little 32308 Klein ones are also GREAT!
I have that Klein, found it in the road, all rusted and run over a few times. Makes it a bit stiff to switch tips. Probably I should complain to the manufacturer.
You laugh, but it turns out Iphones, arc welders, leaf blowers, charcoal, and leather dress shoes are all not dishwasher safe. They should of at least mentioned it on the screwdriver packaging. tHanks for the great video!
Oddly enough, the video might be the reason for the complaint? A lot of people *hate* the video instructions format. It was a popular posting theme (I think in the mildly infuriating subreddit) complaining about how much watch time is needed to sift through to get to a certain piece of information. And it was also very popular to express that whenever instructions were posted in video form, to complain about "missing manuals", on principle.
@ maybe so, but I’m going with this being a bought comment and the writer barely knows what the product is. The same with the not dishwasher safe comment. You can hire companies to post lots of positive reviews to your product and/or lots of negative reviews to your competitors products.
when a screwdriver is too heavy, it is time to reevaluate your manhood. I am sure my 1/4 inch rachet is lighter. funny how people complain about the quality of chinese stuff, but they buy it anyway.
People buy what they can afford. I've purchased lots of crappy tools because I was nearly broke but I needed it, not because I wanted it. Getting the job done half-assed is still better than nothing.
No doubt - there's absolutely nothing wrong with buying what you can afford. Most of the tools in my workshop are much cheaper versions of the 'good stuff' but they all get the job done. But if someone buy's a cheap screwdriver from China and then complains they didn't get PB Swiss quality, it does make me question the validity of any other opinions they may have presented.
I think they need to weigh it against the 11 tools it replaced... The beauty of Klein is for technical field work it shrinks the tool bag by 10 fold .... My work is often in and out half day work and I can't roll in an entire snap on tool cabinet.
The Magnetic Klein 11-in-1 is my goto EDC on the job. For most of my jobs, it does the trick. I do keep a full set of drivers and bits if needed, but in the field, not carrying 80lb of tools everywhere you go on the initial checkout will save your back and your knees.
I own 3 or 4 of the Klein 11-1 screwdrivers. I love it. I do a lot of electrical work and it has never slipped on me once. Oh, I've owned them for years too.
I own 40ish drill indexs. The vast majority are branded Huot. There are other quality index makers, but Huot has been the gold standard as long as I can remember. Many upper tier drill brands package their drills in Huot indexes. That is how I acquired most of my Huot indexes. The quality drill purchase cost is dramatically justified when it includes the Huot index. My Huot overstock drill cabinets were likely made when I was a boy in the 1950's. They have not been loved, yet only one drawer slide is compromised. The plastic indexes are usually bulkier than the steel indexes. I tried the round plastic indexes. With latching and sealed lids, they are semi practical for a service truck with compromised weatherproofing. I kept only one. It organizes well, but my aging eyesight makes reading the drill sizes nearly impossible. Huot makes many index configurations. I use their tap/drill indexes. This eliminates remembering tap drill sizes. I do own some drill maker/seller branded indexes that are comparable to Huot, but none that are better. I think that all my gauge pin indexes are also Huot. It is hard for me to think of a dissatisfied Huot owner. I have shop made several drill index/caddies, but only one true sheet metal index. It was a custom index to hold hammer drill bits back in the day when we still used A and B Taper and spline hammer bits. I copied Huot design, and I had the advantages of an industrial sheet metal production shop at my disposal. The geometry challenges for a hack sheet metal fabricator were obvious. Though functional, it was very heavy. My fellow techs didn't like toting it. When SDS took over the hammer drill market, I didn't try a better version, plus our plant had decided to outsource sheet metal fabrication, and all of that capacity was liquidated. Klein remains my favorite electrician screwdriver brand. My electrician son and grandsons currently favor Lennox multi function screw divers. I don't favor the multi fuction screw driver design at all, preferring tools designed and purposed for single function. I am glad that we have so many options. Kudos for thinking that your six year old warrants quality tools. I start buying quality tools for my grandsons when they are 2. I have 19 grandsons now, and they and their fathers receive quality tools every year. Tool gifting has been a great and established tradition in my family. I couldn't afford quality tools when I was young, so I value jump starting my boys.
Thank you for such a detailed and thoughtful comment! It sounds like you've got a ton of experience with both the Huot and Klein. I really love the Huot index and as you pointed out it's just so well made. It's going to be in my workshop for as long as I'm able to work. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I really enjoyed reading it :)
The klein driver is great. I bought one years ago when I started doing low voltage work. I've since added the 14-in-1 extendable driver and the newer 11-in-1 magnetic driver to my belt along with the flip socket sets.
I use that Klein screwdriver every work day many times a day. I's perfect for working on appliances. I also use a long Klein nut driver that converts between 1/4 and 5/16. Sometimes a Klein stubby that has 4 bits and 2 nutdriver sizes. I have a truck full of tools, I walk in most houses with those 3 things and a flashlight. Great tools.
It is really useful on appliances for sure. We’ve been using it on the fridge this weekend, removing the ice maker to thaw and the back plate off to clean the dust and dog hair out.
@@ShopHumor It literally replaces a bag of tools on some jobs. I use all but 2 of the tips regularly and all the nut driver sizes. If the nut drivers could be magnetic that would make it the perfect tool.
The 11-in-1 is one of my favorite tools. I have one in my took bag, one in my car, one in my coveralls, and two at work! It's just a great tool all around!
Love the review of the reviews. If I was rich and did not care I would put on the package- "No instructions- if you cannot figure this out, please pierce heart with pointy end and die before you reproduce." This seems harsh, but there is no way they will ever figure out what a pointy end is, and much less what a heart is or where it is located.
As a HVAC tech it is a God sent. I hop out of the truck and grab two tools. My multimeter and my 11/1. It seems to be tailor made for my trade needs. I no longer have to carry a tool pouch with a multitude of various Kleins.
I have had my Hout index case for over 40 years and have never needed to clean it. What are you doing to have the need to wash it??? Dishwasher? You don't deserve to own something this nice. Not fancy just functional and never hangs up. Of course this one has never been dropped either. Powder coat is also still intact. 1/16 - 1/2 by 1/64 (29 piece set) Cost me $65 in 1982 to fill this with C-L HSS bits including the case back then. Imagine what it would cost now. Bits still never disappoint. Nice review.
Thank you! I appreciate you watching, and I really appreciate you taking the time to comment. You've definitely gotten your money's worth from those tools!
No instructions on the screw driver but I bet the packaging says to wear gloves and safety glasses while using it, there is a lawyer on every product these days. Oh, I forgot about the chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer warning, likely has one of those too!
They have recently done a study on those Prop 65 warning stickers, and found that they have been effective at reducing exposure to dangerous chemicals. The study drew blood to measure exposure, and proved that the beneficial results also occur outside California. Manufacturers have changed to less harmful chemicals to avoid having to label their products, and in other cases people have switched to other products that are already safer.
@@pondking2801 I was being a little cheeky. I do respect the public health benefits of pressuring corporations to use materials that are less likely to get people sick. I also appreciate the humor in the fact that it's almost impossible to live a modern lifestyle and successfully avoid products known to the state of California to cause cancer. I'd like to see a study about how the public perceives warning labels that are as ubiquitous as that one. My supposition would be that the impact of such warnings is reduced the more often we see them.
I found one of the 11 in 1 set laying in the street. I put it in my toolbox at work and found it so useful I brought one for my home tool box. I would say it's not perfect, but it's very handy and when working on a ladder it's better than carrying multiple screwdrivers.
I never used any Klein products but I guess it's a decent choice if you only do a few things around the house and don't want to buy a full toolkit. In case you want to know, my favourite screwdrivers are made by Gedore. I prefer a rectangular handle over a round one.
As someone with a workshop full of tools, more tools than I really need, I still appreciate the value of being able to grab a tool like the Klein instead of the whole toolbox, but there’s absolutely a place for both. I’ll take a look at those Gedore screwdrivers. Thanks for the tip.
It always amazes me reading Amazon reviews in general. But, some of the tool reviews are really next level. The Huot boxes are great. Most machinist I know use them and I've personally had the same long and snub versions for the past 20+ years.
The 11 in 1 is great to keep in a pocket when you have to go across the plant and are not taking your pouch. Something always comes up when your pouch is on the other side of the plant.
With the Klein screwdriver, another benefit that maybe isn't immediately obvious is that you can pull the shaft out slap in into your drill. It's been a convenient little trick for me more than once so I thought I'd mention it.
I like that Klein makes a variety of different combination screwdrivers. My go to is the 14 in 1 because it has 13 of the most common bits in the handle and can extend to get into deep holes. Plus the top spins freely so I can keep pressure on the screw while turning.
I'll have to look at that 14-in-1. I've also heard really good things about their stubby screwdrivers. My last HVAC guy had one that had some specialty HVAC bits and he loved it.
Edit: I must add upfront…Props for teaching and encouraging your lad to be practical and know his tools. Yeah…I have seen a very generalised ‘American is always best’ tendency in some reviews. SOME, but only some, top shelf American tools are excellent and I’ll buy them even though they cost double your US prices once imported here into UK. Generally expensive but worth it: Starrett, MidWest aviation shears, Woodpeckers, DeWalt and many others. European tools also have their excellence brands with Fische Forstner bits, Bahco, Presch, Mitutoyo, and more. These are MY experiences, but all countries can produce absolute rubbish. There is no substitute for research huh! Of course there are much less expensive, less prestige tools too, but generally you get what you pay for and it is true many cheaper alternatives still work just fine. If however, you buy cheap tools made of cast Chinesium, well take a guess.
Thanks for taking the time to comment! Like you, I appreciate quality and precision regardless of where it originates. I've got a great Brown and Sharpe dial indicator that was made in Germany, and a great Mitutoyo test indicator that was made in Japan, and lots of other tools from all over the world that are well made and reliable. But I also appreciate dirt cheap tools as long as they do the job I need them to do. To me, that's value.
To the person who complained about the lack of instructions....I would like to quote a friend of mine who has passed "Box your computer back up and send it back to the company. You are too stupid to own a computer." I think you get the idea.
Bought for each daughter for their home tool kit. Outstanding quality. Well made and very handy. I keep one in the upstairs bathroom, too. Saves me running to the garage when I need a quick fix.
I have that Klein 32500 in my every day tool bag. I also carry their 32900 socket driver and a couple of random bits that work with it. Round that out with a pair of angle cutters, small vise grips, small adjustable spanner, snap-blade knife, 6" steel rule, and a 16' tape measure. I work in QC for a company that makes construction drilling equipment. I've never been let down by a Klein tool - been using them since 2006.
@ShopHumor it's good. I grabbed an impact hex to 1/4" socket drive. Pair that with a small set of 1/4" drive metric sockets and I have a really effective setup. Sometimes I bring a Klein multimeter if it's an electrical kind of day. Usually my workplace has all the tools, but it can be a real time waster tracking down everything I need to diagnose a problem. I like to keep a basic set of tools in my bag.
In the Air Force, and I imagine in other branches, day one of a mechanical tech school you have to show proficiency with a screwdriver after receiving instruction on its use. The struggle is real for some people.
Every Klein tool I have I found and they're all pretty good and worked their way into my box (including the larger version of this screwdriver) except the one multimeter I actually bought. Naturally, it broke.
I've had several of the Klein screwdrivers over the past decade, and more recently bought the impact rated one. Now I have the ratcheting impact one. I love it and I don't even carry other screwdrivers at work (other than a 3/16" cabinet prybar!) I definitely recommend any Klein 11 in 1 style screwdriver.
@@ShopHumor I had forgotten about the stubby. I had one for a while, until it mysteriously disappeared from my tool bag! Never did get another My experience is that when I need a stubby, I need something really short, so I use a passthrough 1/4" ratchet with bits. A lot of times the multibit stubby was still too long to get into some places
Honestly the Klein 11-in-1 is iconic in the trades it is probably the most common screw driver that people have in their bag and the most copied multi-bit screwdriver ever. Every tradesman I have ever met either has owned one or still does. Mine moved out of my bag and into a drawer in the kitchen (kids always asking me to change the batteries in things lol) when I upgraded to the Klien 20-in-1 to combine my screwdriver and nutdriver into 1 tool to save weight.
@ShopHumor I like it but it's heavy. It's lighter in my bag than carrying 2 tools though and it covers having bits for my impact driver in my bag so it cuts a lot of tool bag weight and space used. I'm a commercial refrigeration tech that does mostly grocery stores so cutting weight I'm lugging around back and forth across a store all day is a big deal to me
I've found my Klein 11-in-1 to be the best screwdriver I've ever owned. Having the stealth nut drivers has come in so handy, (some people never realize that you can use it as a nut driver). I've used one almost daily for at least the last 15 years. Maybe longer.
Klien 11-in 1 is awesome, as an actual electrician, this was my day to day stand- by for years, a pair of linesman pliers and the 11 in 1 and you're set.
Heck yeah. We've already put it to good use. He has taken apart a lot of his toys (of course) and we've used it to work on fixing the fridge that was iced over.
Klein is the tool brand I would recommend to someone without knowing exactly what they're looking at (pliers, side cutters, screwdrivers, etc). I've never regretted buying any Klein. Could there be better tools? Yeah, sure, but Klein is a pretty safe bet.
The Klein 11/1 was made made years ago specifically for the electricians at my workplace by request, and has now become a wide used tool. . I use one every day. it fits all our lighting fixtures, I only need it, a ticker and a pair of strippers to do %99 of my job
Customer reviews can be hilarious! Saw a review on a food sealer that headlined "It no work!" She included a video. Yep, it no work. Never mind that she never latched the sealer at all so it COULDN'T work. I sure wished there had been a way to offer to take it off of her hands for free, she pays shipping. I bought one and it works great.
It would be nice if there was a way to respond to reviews, not necessarily to be mean, but just to help point people in the right direction that clearly need a little guidance haha
Im a communication worker. Early in my career when I was working at peoples homes and businesses I needed a full tool set. Today I work with a lot of fiber and the equipment that is attached to that fiber - this is my go to tool in my tool pouch (altho we tend to use the 10-in-1 because it just fits better, and we've not had a lot of good takes on the 11-in-1, where they added the hex drive to the handle, from our employees quality wise), then my flats, snips and angel cutters.
I've heard really good things about the 10-in-1s that people have been using for years. I'm not surprised to hear you say that too, and you probably get to use yours a hundred times more than I ever will
I've had my Klien 11-in-1 for about 25 years. It is nice to be able to carry one tool and have several different options. Mine is a little tight when trying to remove the bits and I sometimes have to use pliers to pull them out. The biggest complaint I have is finding replacement bits when one disappears. It was cheaper to buy the Klien stubby multi screwdriver than buying the bits I needed. The takeaway from that is don't lend this tool to any numties on the job.
I agree that the Habor Freight drill case is less than desirable, but when you spend 100 dollars for the drills (and crummy) case, 50 dollars, just for a replacement case, would stick in my craw a bit too much (pun not intended but pretty good).😃 Nice review in any case (uh-oh, another pun).
Lmao yeah it was a little bit of a hard pill to swallow, but I actually used the 25% off coupon when I got my HF set so it was only $75, and I went in planning on probably upgrading the case. My short term plan was to use the HF case as a catch all for all the miscellaneous drill bits that I've been accumulating for years, and then eventually to move the HF cobalt drills back to their original case when (or if, might never happen) I buy a "high quality" drill index one piece at a time. But so far the HF cobalt drills have done everything I've needed them to do, so I might not ever that that "high quality" cobalt set. We'll see
I will give one criticism on those interchangeable tip screwdrivers. I love them, but it's criminal not to sell a replacement bit set. Especially with that Klein, and if you're switching frequently, which is the point, you're going to lose one which will frustrate you to no end.
Agreed. They should be cheap and easily obtainable. I think it's really the only major criticism I've seen seen for the screwdriver that I agree with wholeheartedly.
I have an OLD 6 in 1 'screwdriver' that I have used to the point of wearing the handle smooth in places. its PERFECT for the majority of my work I do. I think it cost me $1.99 about 30 years ago.
I bought one of these years ago and promptly lost one of the insert bits. No problem, until I discovered I couldn't buy replacement bits. To get replacement bits you have to buy a whole new tool. Other than Klein's unwillingness to sell replacement bits, it's a great tool. Just don't drop a bit inside a wall.
The bits (and the rubber grip coming loose) seem to be the two main complaints people have about this screwdriver. I wish they had easily available replacement bits too.
As an alternative, Megapro makes fantastic screwdrivers that come with 7 double-ended bits that all fit in the handle and is USA-made, and have a range of different job specific models. They even have a model with a 1/4 hex quick lock so you can use standard impact driver bits. The Linus Tech Tips screwdriver is a licensed and modified version of their ratchet mechanism and bit holder as well.
I'll have to take a look at the Megapro, thanks! I've seen the LTT screwdriver and have thought about picking one up, might just have to do that! I've also always wanted a Brownells master set... one day.
Instructions for screwdriver: 1. use screwdriver handle as hammer 2. use flathead bits to open paint cans 3. use flathead bits as a pry bar 4. use all other bits when inserted to the bit holder to drive screws by rotating tool left or right so the Klein is more like "14 in 1" than "11 in 1"
@@ShopHumor the infamous demolition screwdriver! Otherwise known as the one you bleeped up using for something other than turning screws righty tighty lefty loosey
I use that 11-1 at work. Often almost everday. Only real issue is if you flick it to hard the bits inside the handle with deloge themselfs and you get a maraca. Aside from that? Works fine, not sure how it is “heavy”. On a side note they make tiny rachets. There good for small work or hard to reach places.
A couple other people mentioned those tiny ratchets I had no idea they existed.. I'm absolutely going to have to get one. Sounds so cool! Thanks for commenting :)
"screw driver unusable no instructions" had to be a troll. For anyone who wants to use standard bits, for about the same price, Klein also makes an excellent 14-in-1 that has standard bits stored in the handle and an adjustable-length impact-rated shaft.
We had tamper proof panels, that were tied into our UPS, for computer rooms. The handle fit the screws they were round with wings. The specialized Driver worked a little better, but I could access the panels with the Klein.
I have Nitro drill set that came with the Huot box. Both are top shelf. I worked in and owned a machine shop for years. Huot boxes do wear out occasionally in this environment, but there is no better index out there that I know of.
I think we are on the same side. I used that Klein screwdriver for multiple years in a field service roll with no issues. When you need tools that do multiple jobs, that Klein should be on the short list. They make a stubby version that I also highly recommend.
@@ShopHumor Had to get under some raised metal flooring multiple times and the stubby was convenient to keep in my pants pocket when needed to unscrew the flatheads.
I have had the klein 11 in 1 for probably around 10 years now. Its a good overall combo but a bit thick for certain applications, nothing you can do about that if you want the nut driving capability. Do not put a lot of torque on it as the bits are very hard but brittle and dont use it as a beater lol. 0 issues and i would recommend it. I didnt have this happen with this tool but the conduit reamer same handle cracked from trying to remove a bur. It was purchased around the same time and was around 9 years old with original blade. Handle may crack over time. Electrician here.
Many years ago, I bought a hammer that said, "do not strike hardened surfaces with this hammer." It was a pretty ordinary carpenter's hammer, so I'm still not sure what that was all about.
I have seen a few. The first was on a Fastcap Flatback tape measure. this is a specialty flat tape measure, for measuring the circumference of round things. there is several reviews on amazon complaining about it not having the normal tape measure shape. The second I will share was a face shield, people kept complaining that they couldn't see out of it. They had all left the protective film on.
Industrial electrician/millwright here. There are 6 tools I have on my person 100% of the time at work. Mini flashlight, 6"/150mm pocket scale, 1/8" screwdriver, Fiskars Pro folding knife, 6" adjustable wrench and a Klein 11-in-1, magnetic version. I'm on my 2nd, the only reason I had to replace is I lost a bit from the non-mag and it's cheaper to buy an entire unit. Current one is still going strong after 3 years of daily industrial use and I'd feel lost without it in my leg pocket. The only downside is reduced reach, if dealing with a recessed screw (such as in electrical contactors). Would recommend for anyone.
New subscriber here. Enjoyed this video. It’s so true about wildly different reviews on the same stuff. I’ve got a Klein 11in1 magnetic driver and love it. I’ve also got a couple of smaller Huot drill indexes that are probably 40 years old. Good stuff.
Thank you so much for watching, subscribing, and taking time out of your day to comment. I really appreciate it! I bet those 40 year old Huots are fantastic. I like new tools, but I love old ones :)
Reviewing the reviewers! 😁 What a brilliant idea, given the fact there's so much misleading, irrelevant hype, dishonesty of reviewers are in abundance due to and corporate payoffs of these days.😢
I love this thing, as a resi oil technician you could send me into a basement with one of these and some channel lock 420's and I can fix most common problems. and its cheap enough I dont worry about the handle getting wrecked from heating oil
I'm not an electrician but a couple people pointed that out and I went back to look, it looks like it's... reversible? The keyhole slots on the top face the opposite way (narrow part on top, wider part on bottom) , so rotating it 180 degrees would effectively not change anything. The top would become the bottom and it would look exactly as it does now, but the door would swing left to right instead of right to left. The screw slots in the middle don't have keyholes, just regular holes. Looks like this one (or one of the same design): www.homedepot.com/p/Eaton-BR-200-Amp-80-Circuit-Indoor-Main-Breaker-Plug-On-Neutral-Load-Center-BRP40B200/307648498
I bought one of those large drill bit sets some 40 (?) years ago from Enco. (I've had it seemingly forever) Still sits on a shelf right behind my lathe and don't care that the box is poor quality as I have never closed it. A full set of number drills, fractional drills, and letter drills is incredibly useful. Many of the number drills have broken over the years but that's to be expected since they are small and get used often. I just replace them as needed. I have a number of smaller indexes and lots of drill bits. All get used but when I need a small bit, this is where I go to get it.
That's great. I probably shouldn't let it bother me that the box was so crummy, but it did (a little). I really just wanted an excuse to get the Huot and see how well it was made compared to the one that came with the set. I'm glad I did even if it was a bit expensive considering the cheap cost of the cobalt drills I put inside it, but I don't regret buying it at all. I'll keep it forever
Dishwasher safe. I would never buy a tool that isn't dishwasher safe. Especially a tool bit holder. Hilarious. I once wanted to buy some replacement tires for a cart that I had for over twenty years. Checking the reviews I found the glass was unsafe and would break when overheated. Other reviews stated that standard candles sizes would not fit in these items. After several reviews of more reviews, I realized all the reviews pertained to glass candle holders, not the tires for my cart. Although the item description gave the size of the tires, showed a picture of black tires, and were priced in the range of similar brands of tires, Amazon had posted reviews for another product and not for the tires. It is great and a laff to see you post reviews of products that aren't related to the actual product. Just today, I was purchasing a skillet online and a review of a pan made by the same company as one star was because the buyer purchased a pan that was smaller than the one they wanted. Yes, you wanted a two quart sauce pan and ordered a one quart and were upset because you got the one quart. It can't be your fault, the manufacturer should know that you need to put two quarts of food you are preparing in the one quart pan and should make it large enough for you to do so. Keep up the great work and please continue to include they crazy "dishwasher safe" reviews for all my tool needs.
Lmao, those are my favorite. It just cracks me up when people buy a tool to do a job that it wasn't intended to do, and then complain when it doesn't do it very well, or they buy a product (like the skillet you mentioned) that is obviously not what they need, and then are upset that they got what they paid for.
Way to go, his first Klein. I've got Klein tools older than I am (67) and I warrantied out a 40 year old pair of diagonal cutters the other day. First Klein I ever wore out.
That’s fantastic! I’d love to have some vintage Klein tools too (not calling you vintage 😂). There is just something about using a tool that is older than you are that makes whatever job you’re doing that much more satisfying.
@@ShopHumor The first tool I bought was a 4 inch Crescent for $4 and change, when I was around 12, to work on my first 10 speed, which I had bought with lawn mowing money. It's in a top drawer now, along with heirloom pocket knives and watches. Still like brand new. The ten speed didn't last that long. I was so proud. Nothing like the first purchase made with your own earned cash.
"No instructions" - this is, of course, a safety feature, to protect those who need instructions for a screwdriver from attempting the dangerous, scary and potentially maiming screwing and unscrewing of small screws. Safety first!
I don't like the Klein 11-in-1, but it is a well made tool. I just think the kind with the bits in the handle are a much better design, which Klein also makes.
@ShopHumor It might sound meme-ish, but the Linus Tech Tips is my favorite. For 1/3 the price I also really like the Klein 13-in-1 ratcheting screwdriver. However, the bits are a non-standard length and I've found them to not be very durable. I've broken a few in normal use. It will work with any standard quick-connect bit or socket, but won't hold them in the handle very well.
Sounds like that 1st review you posted was probably a problem of tolerance stacking. The bit was at the extreme of the tolerance in one direction & the driver itself at the extreme of tolerance in the other direction. It happens & yes it sucks, but I'm not bailing on an otherwise good company for it.
Only problem with those Klein screwdrivers is that if you lose a tip, you have to buy a whole new screw driver. I use the Harbor Freight 4 in 1. They are normally free a few times a year, and if you lose a tip, just go get another free one. They are surprisingly strong, as long as you don’t beat on it with a hammer.
Thanks for watching!! Tools from the video, more links in description:
- Klein 11-in-1 Screwdriver: amzn.to/3YE7u09
- Huot Drill Index Case ( *HUGE Upgrade!* ): amzn.to/483qUP3
I just bought the klein and the collar in the handle was not glued in, so i superglued it.
@@russellgilson3536 hopefully that takes care of it. Disappointing that it was not glued properly upon receiving it!
"no instructions" on screwdriver-"not dishwasher safe" on a drill index. Remember folks,they walk amongst us...
It's a screwdriver, for the love of evil! What kind of instructions could they possibly add?
Also, who puts a drill index into the dishwasher?! That's where you cook your lasagna!
I'm giving those comments the benefit of doubt, and suspecting it's sarcastic humour. Yes
they vote too!
@@shanewondrak9661 Yeah.
But I think they're joking.
If you need instructions on how to use a screwdriver perhaps you should stay away from tools altogether.
It's a little scary. My 6 year old didn't need instructions...
I'm not going to say anything about the orientation of the keyhole slot at 4:26
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Damnit!
Step 1: ask an adult for help.
@@ShopHumor I would say that I actually know people who fit the "shouldn't use tools" description. Including several who have applied for jobs in my shop.
@@chrisose I'm not too surprised to be honest...
I think it’s important to point out the Klein 11-in-1 is meant for electrical work. The bits and nut drivers are designed for common fastener sizes in electrical components. It’s not meant to be a standard hex bit handle compatible with standard bits.
You're exactly right. I think a lot of people see screwdriver and bits and just think they're all interchangeable, so I feel like it's good to point it out in the video that they're not really compatible. The screwdriver works fine, just something to be mindful of.
By the way, the inexpensive Harbor Freight 4 in one is really a 6 in one. You can use it as a nut driver like the Klein.
@@hughbrackett343 Good tip!!
Also good for HVAC work. The nut driver fits many screws you find on ductwork and furnaces and RTU's, etc..
@@JohnD-JohnDIn all honesty, I hardly carry any Klein tools anymore. Nothing wrong with them and still have plenty on my work van but just don’t get used too much anymore. I like the vast majority of Klein tools though and will vouch for them but they have started making more gimmicky tools over the past 5 years it seems. I think the only Klein tool in my bag rn currently is the electronics screwdriver with like 27 bits or something like that which I do love. Everything in my bag currently besides that is Knipex, Wera, PB Swiss, Vessel, Snap-on, Bahco, and a fluke multimeter. I do commercial/industrial hvac service.
The Klein style multi bit screwdrivers are nice but always ended up loosing bits. Started preferring the push button style that is stored in the handle. Klein has options like that too, but just prefer others after trying them. I don’t seem to loose bits with that setup.
Really love the intense magnetism from my Wera and PB Swiss driver. Especially for certain electrical work that’s crammed into a unit. All the shit a manufacturer has and possibly another transformer with IDEC relays to isolate controls, added phase monitors, Hawkeyes or what not lol. A lot to have to work around. Do quite a bit of Mitsubishi VRF as well where some of these tools are a godsend like the Wera zyclops ratchet set.
Can’t go wrong with Klein though.
Dishwasher safe is my number one criteria when purchasing any new tool, particularly power tools.
Indeed. If you can't clean the spaghetti off of your drill index the lazy way, what good is it?
With 'Dish washer' he may have meant his wife, whom he thinks should steer clear of tools...
@@tjdewolff5104 Those would be fighting words in my house haha
Instructions for a screw driver and not dishwasher safe really got me 😅
Me too. There were some even more ridiculous ones I found but didn't use just cause I was worried they were so crazy no one would believe them haha
They are dishwasher safe. You just need to replace jetdry with wd40.
@@wayne9518 So THAT's what I'm doing wrong... thanks! lol
The "can't remove shaft from handle" thing may have come from a coworker. Guy got one through work and promptly decided to use it as a chisel and prybar, and jammed the shaft into the handle.
Then he complained to Klein that it was junk, and demanded a replacement, but he got it through work, and they didn't let him get a replacement, so he was stuck with a broken driver.
Lmao that would be too funny if it was the same guy and it would explain why he was having trouble with something so basic
Let a coworker use one of mine and it came back in a similar condition...half of instill works though! 🙂
@@MudPuddlePirate lmao
Yup, I'm an electrician that made the same mistake. Took the shaft out and pulled out the opposing bits in a tight space and used the flat bit to tap a locknut tight. Now it doesn't like to come out or go in. I'm using the extended reach version (longer bits) which is absolutely the best one I have ever seen.
seems like a valid complain still, if it comes with a flat head, it should hold up to prying with it.
I need to hire the guy that was a sheet metal god in 3rd grade. I need him to teach my crew how to make a Huot with the tools in an elementary school metal shop.
The closest my elementary school got to a metal work was picking up rusted pieces of the swing set that had flaked off
I was an electrician for 40 years. The only problem I had with the Klein 11-in-1 was the bits would rust easy making them hard to pull out. I worked in all kinds of weather so was constantly cleaning the bits and spraying them with some kid of lubricant. But, overall it was a great go to screwdriver! One thing: DON'T use it as a chisel or beating screwdriver!!! I drove one of the bits into the handle and had one "h" of a time getting it unstuck from the handle!!
Yes at this and...
I'm down to one bit. Flat and Philips large. Easy to loose the snap in bits
Do not use the smaller 1/4 drive hex shafr to remove 1/4 headed screws. It will distort and the bits will not fit back in. Use the thicker one.
As mine aged, the shaft to handle interface has become difficult to operate.
Would I buy again? There are a lot of copies that are cheaper, so perhaps
I’m working in coastal Alaska so my tool bag occasionally turns into a bucket. I have the Milwaukee and Klein versions and both can rust together pretty easily. I spray them regularly. The Milwaukee version has shockingly tough bits and I don’t think that kind of toughness is possible in any stainless steel.
Thanks for the heads up on the rust, thankfully this one is going to see indoor use until my boy is a little older and starts to do outdoor projects, but I'll make sure he takes good care of the maintenance and rust prevention
Good tip on the 1/4" nut driver
@@arts2563 there are super tough stainless steels like A-286, PH 13-8mo, inconels, etc cost would be prohibitive.
the Klein 11-in-1 is probably my favorite screwdriver for doing electrical and maintenance work without my "real" tools
The fact that it has two common sizes of nut drivers (when you pull the bits) 1/4" ,5/16" (I think) is epic.
The only thing I would change about it is having some sort of bit retention... (like hollow handle) but Im not sure that would work for the design.
It would be nice for sure. I like it a lot and my boy is ecstatic haha
I have 3 of the klein 11-1, I love them
I have my Klein for commercial work and my milwaukee for residential
@@JS-kh5ls I've heard really good things about the Milwaukee too I wouldn't mind getting one
Changing one of the nut drivers to be a magnetic or spring clip 1/4" bit holder would be useful.
My go-to electrical and appliance screwdriver is the 'free' Harbor Freight version which has only 1/4" and 5/16" nut drivers, two slotted and #1 and #2 philips. I don't need to be concerned about losing it, and when I need other tips it is usually a T-20 or hex.
I work in an industrial setting. We use that driver. The bits hold up very well. The entire screwdriver is fantastic to replace motor.
That's awesome! Thanks for letting me know about your experience with it
But how can you use it when there are no instructions?
I'm not joking when I say I have a dozen or more Klein 10-in-1s and 11-in-1s purchased over the last 25 years. Like many retired tradesmen, I have too many screwdrivers (well over 200, about 80 or so are the small precision ones) but I still use my multis about 75% of the time. Oh, for sh!t and giggles, I ordered every replacement bit Klein makes, and now all my multis have different bits, all Torx on one, Schrader and taps on another, etc.
Edit: I checked some of my 11-in-1s and the Milwaukee is made in Thailand, the Klein and Greenlee are made in Taiwan, and the Bestway (Mayhew) and Proto are made in USA. Have some other brands but I only retired a few years ago so I'm not completely organized yet. Also have some old Stanley 4-in-1s and 6-in-1s from the '80, made in USA, of course.
That's awesome though. I'd love to have a collection like that and after putting in 25 years of hard work you definitely earned it. And very cool about the vast, complete assortment of bits!!
Cool story bro
I'm a retired tradeswoman. Can't count all my screwdrivers, but I know I have 5 all-in-ones, 2 ratcheting and 3 not. And you can used them as hex drivers for the 2 most common sizes.
I have found most of the bad reviews are from people that don’t have a good understanding about the item they purchased. Others are just self documented episodes of user error. Even duck tape cannot fix stupid, it does help quite it down if placed correctly.
It's crazy how quick people are to blame something they themselves don't understand
A lot of the worst ones I see are 'vine' reviews where they send free stuff to the seemingly most obnoxious people possible and half the time they act like they don't even know what the thing is
When I was the maintenance electrician at a large college, this Klein was always in my pocket. In a large building complex you are always going to run into loose wall plates, hand rails, door knobs etc. So handy just to fix it on the spot instead of running to the shop for tools or making a repair ticket for someone else to come and fix it. It came with me when I retired and I still use in at home.
That's awesome, I bet you got way more use out of it than we ever will :)
That 11-1 screwdriver is my go-to when I'm heading out to something and have limited tool box or pocket space.
It's an excellent too.
It really is. Thanks for watching & the comment!
The fact it has all the most common sizes in one tool is such a handy thing that its usually the FIRST tool I'd take along to any small fix task aside from something like a small hammer and a flashlight. If the task needs something other than those few things, that's when you need to see what you need and go take along the right tools in a tool bag / box along.
The stubby little 32308 Klein ones are also GREAT!
I have that Klein, found it in the road, all rusted and run over a few times.
Makes it a bit stiff to switch tips. Probably I should complain to the manufacturer.
I wonder if the lifetime warranty would cover that … if not you could leave a bad review 😂
They need to put emergency flashers on it, obviously!
it goes from stiff to bits flying away real quick from my experience with about 10 of them
You laugh, but it turns out Iphones, arc welders, leaf blowers, charcoal, and leather dress shoes are all not dishwasher safe.
They should of at least mentioned it on the screwdriver packaging. tHanks for the great video!
Haha yeah, thank you for watching and for taking the time to leave a comment! Much appreciated. :)
You are right. I mostly only read bad reviews, but I filter all unreasonable ones out.
Reading the really weird and bad ones is a guilty pleasure haha
Hahaha it was an actual comment "it doesn't come with instructions". I actually clicked this video to see if that complaint was about a screwdriver.
I wasn’t making them up lol
What’s worse is there are videos from Kline showing how it works. Apparently, he doesn’t know how to use a screwdriver and can’t watch videos either…
Oddly enough, the video might be the reason for the complaint? A lot of people *hate* the video instructions format.
It was a popular posting theme (I think in the mildly infuriating subreddit) complaining about how much watch time is needed to sift through to get to a certain piece of information. And it was also very popular to express that whenever instructions were posted in video form, to complain about "missing manuals", on principle.
@ maybe so, but I’m going with this being a bought comment and the writer barely knows what the product is. The same with the not dishwasher safe comment. You can hire companies to post lots of positive reviews to your product and/or lots of negative reviews to your competitors products.
@@ShopHumor I truly appreciate that you didn't feed us click bait!
when a screwdriver is too heavy, it is time to reevaluate your manhood.
I am sure my 1/4 inch rachet is lighter.
funny how people complain about the quality of chinese stuff, but they buy it anyway.
Yep agreed!
People buy what they can afford. I've purchased lots of crappy tools because I was nearly broke but I needed it, not because I wanted it. Getting the job done half-assed is still better than nothing.
No doubt - there's absolutely nothing wrong with buying what you can afford. Most of the tools in my workshop are much cheaper versions of the 'good stuff' but they all get the job done. But if someone buy's a cheap screwdriver from China and then complains they didn't get PB Swiss quality, it does make me question the validity of any other opinions they may have presented.
I think they need to weigh it against the 11 tools it replaced... The beauty of Klein is for technical field work it shrinks the tool bag by 10 fold .... My work is often in and out half day work and I can't roll in an entire snap on tool cabinet.
Or womanhood. I'm a retired tradeswoman.
The Magnetic Klein 11-in-1 is my goto EDC on the job. For most of my jobs, it does the trick. I do keep a full set of drivers and bits if needed, but in the field, not carrying 80lb of tools everywhere you go on the initial checkout will save your back and your knees.
I've heard good things about the magnetic version as well I'd like to try that one
I own 3 or 4 of the Klein 11-1 screwdrivers. I love it. I do a lot of electrical work and it has never slipped on me once. Oh, I've owned them for years too.
That’s awesome, owning more than one of the same tool is a damn good endorsement!
Guy couldn't use screwdriver without instructions starved to death because his fork didn't come with instructions.
I’m ashamed to admit I needed instructions the first time I picked up some chopsticks, but forking came naturally
Used the spoon the curved side up?
I own 40ish drill indexs. The vast majority are branded Huot. There are other quality index makers, but Huot has been the gold standard as long as I can remember. Many upper tier drill brands package their drills in Huot indexes. That is how I acquired most of my Huot indexes. The quality drill purchase cost is dramatically justified when it includes the Huot index. My Huot overstock drill cabinets were likely made when I was a boy in the 1950's. They have not been loved, yet only one drawer slide is compromised.
The plastic indexes are usually bulkier than the steel indexes. I tried the round plastic indexes. With latching and sealed lids, they are semi practical for a service truck with compromised weatherproofing. I kept only one. It organizes well, but my aging eyesight makes reading the drill sizes nearly impossible. Huot makes many index configurations. I use their tap/drill indexes. This eliminates remembering tap drill sizes. I do own some drill maker/seller branded indexes that are comparable to Huot, but none that are better. I think that all my gauge pin indexes are also Huot. It is hard for me to think of a dissatisfied Huot owner.
I have shop made several drill index/caddies, but only one true sheet metal index. It was a custom index to hold hammer drill bits back in the day when we still used A and B Taper and spline hammer bits. I copied Huot design, and I had the advantages of an industrial sheet metal production shop at my disposal. The geometry challenges for a hack sheet metal fabricator were obvious. Though functional, it was very heavy. My fellow techs didn't like toting it. When SDS took over the hammer drill market, I didn't try a better version, plus our plant had decided to outsource sheet metal fabrication, and all of that capacity was liquidated.
Klein remains my favorite electrician screwdriver brand. My electrician son and grandsons currently favor Lennox multi function screw divers. I don't favor the multi fuction screw driver design at all, preferring tools designed and purposed for single function. I am glad that we have so many options.
Kudos for thinking that your six year old warrants quality tools. I start buying quality tools for my grandsons when they are 2. I have 19 grandsons now, and they and their fathers receive quality tools every year. Tool gifting has been a great and established tradition in my family. I couldn't afford quality tools when I was young, so I value jump starting my boys.
Thank you for such a detailed and thoughtful comment! It sounds like you've got a ton of experience with both the Huot and Klein. I really love the Huot index and as you pointed out it's just so well made. It's going to be in my workshop for as long as I'm able to work. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I really enjoyed reading it :)
For the guy who jammed his shaft, as soon as you reach for a hammer, you've just voided the warranty on all the tools you own ;-)
lmao yep!
The klein driver is great. I bought one years ago when I started doing low voltage work. I've since added the 14-in-1 extendable driver and the newer 11-in-1 magnetic driver to my belt along with the flip socket sets.
I use the Klein long reach six-in-one as my daily driver, so to speak. Best thing when working in data racks.
How do you like the 14-in-1 extendable and the 11-in-1 magnetic?
I don't do daily work on server racks but I do have a little 9U wall mount that keeps the home network tidy.
@@ShopHumor Klein makes some real great specialty drivers. I have a DIN screw driver for terminal blocks. It's like a tweaker with a full size handle.
@@MN-HillbillyThat’s awesome! Will take a look, thank you
I work in industrial maintenance and I’ve always got my 11-in-1 in my back pocket.
I've seen more than a few tradesmen with them too. The last HVAC guy I had at the house had one!
I use that Klein screwdriver every work day many times a day. I's perfect for working on appliances. I also use a long Klein nut driver that converts between 1/4 and 5/16. Sometimes a Klein stubby that has 4 bits and 2 nutdriver sizes.
I have a truck full of tools, I walk in most houses with those 3 things and a flashlight.
Great tools.
It is really useful on appliances for sure. We’ve been using it on the fridge this weekend, removing the ice maker to thaw and the back plate off to clean the dust and dog hair out.
@@ShopHumor It literally replaces a bag of tools on some jobs. I use all but 2 of the tips regularly and all the nut driver sizes. If the nut drivers could be magnetic that would make it the perfect tool.
That would be a really awesome feature
Agree on Klein 11-1 on appliances. Flashlight, screwdriver and noncontact voltage tester are usually the first things out of my bag.
The 11-in-1 is one of my favorite tools. I have one in my took bag, one in my car, one in my coveralls, and two at work! It's just a great tool all around!
It really is good. Very versatile, solid, comptact!
You set that hammer down in the beginning and I got nostalgic. My dad had a hammer exactly like that when I was a little kid back in 1990.
i got that hammer from my dad :)
My Dad was a shipwright as were most Dads in my town.
And a hammer was known as a Dockyard Screwdriver.
Love the review of the reviews. If I was rich and did not care I would put on the package- "No instructions- if you cannot figure this out, please pierce heart with pointy end and die before you reproduce."
This seems harsh, but there is no way they will ever figure out what a pointy end is, and much less what a heart is or where it is located.
Glad you liked the video my friend!
As a HVAC tech it is a God sent. I hop out of the truck and grab two tools. My multimeter and my 11/1. It seems to be tailor made for my trade needs. I no longer have to carry a tool pouch with a multitude of various Kleins.
Agreed. Even the last HVAC guy I had out to the house had one!
I have had my Hout index case for over 40 years and have never needed to clean it. What are you doing to have the need to wash it??? Dishwasher? You don't deserve to own something this nice. Not fancy just functional and never hangs up. Of course this one has never been dropped either. Powder coat is also still intact. 1/16 - 1/2 by 1/64 (29 piece set) Cost me $65 in 1982 to fill this with C-L HSS bits including the case back then. Imagine what it would cost now. Bits still never disappoint. Nice review.
115 piece C-L set HSS a bit over $600
Thank you! I appreciate you watching, and I really appreciate you taking the time to comment. You've definitely gotten your money's worth from those tools!
I bought the Klein, liked so much I got 2 more, truck and kitchen. Good vid
Thanks man and thanks for watching!
No instructions on the screw driver but I bet the packaging says to wear gloves and safety glasses while using it, there is a lawyer on every product these days. Oh, I forgot about the chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer warning, likely has one of those too!
I’m never moving to California, I don’t want to get sick :(
They have recently done a study on those Prop 65 warning stickers, and found that they have been effective at reducing exposure to dangerous chemicals. The study drew blood to measure exposure, and proved that the beneficial results also occur outside California. Manufacturers have changed to less harmful chemicals to avoid having to label their products, and in other cases people have switched to other products that are already safer.
@@pondking2801 I was being a little cheeky. I do respect the public health benefits of pressuring corporations to use materials that are less likely to get people sick. I also appreciate the humor in the fact that it's almost impossible to live a modern lifestyle and successfully avoid products known to the state of California to cause cancer. I'd like to see a study about how the public perceives warning labels that are as ubiquitous as that one. My supposition would be that the impact of such warnings is reduced the more often we see them.
@@pondking2801 BS!
I found one of the 11 in 1 set laying in the street. I put it in my toolbox at work and found it so useful I brought one for my home tool box. I would say it's not perfect, but it's very handy and when working on a ladder it's better than carrying multiple screwdrivers.
It’s definitely handy, so cool that you just found one laying in the street, haha
I never used any Klein products but I guess it's a decent choice if you only do a few things around the house and don't want to buy a full toolkit.
In case you want to know, my favourite screwdrivers are made by Gedore. I prefer a rectangular handle over a round one.
As someone with a workshop full of tools, more tools than I really need, I still appreciate the value of being able to grab a tool like the Klein instead of the whole toolbox, but there’s absolutely a place for both.
I’ll take a look at those Gedore screwdrivers. Thanks for the tip.
It always amazes me reading Amazon reviews in general. But, some of the tool reviews are really next level. The Huot boxes are great. Most machinist I know use them and I've personally had the same long and snub versions for the past 20+ years.
I really really like mine. So happy I got one
The Kline is my favorite "kitchen drawer" screwdriver, good review 👍
Thank you! I think it’s a great little tool
That Klein crimper and screw driver have been with me for almost a decade, I love them and they are much better than the competition at their price.
That's awesome. I've had the same experience with the crimper. Love that thing.
I've really abused the Klein Tools flush cutters for a bit over a year, and am quite happy.
I'd like to get some of those flush cutters!
The 11 in 1 is great to keep in a pocket when you have to go across the plant and are not taking your pouch. Something always comes up when your pouch is on the other side of the plant.
Yep it’s so handy to just have something with you that’s gonna work for 90% of the things you’ll run across on a day to day basis!
With the Klein screwdriver, another benefit that maybe isn't immediately obvious is that you can pull the shaft out slap in into your drill. It's been a convenient little trick for me more than once so I thought I'd mention it.
That is a GREAT trick! Thank you
I like that Klein makes a variety of different combination screwdrivers. My go to is the 14 in 1 because it has 13 of the most common bits in the handle and can extend to get into deep holes. Plus the top spins freely so I can keep pressure on the screw while turning.
I'll have to look at that 14-in-1. I've also heard really good things about their stubby screwdrivers. My last HVAC guy had one that had some specialty HVAC bits and he loved it.
Edit: I must add upfront…Props for teaching and encouraging your lad to be practical and know his tools. Yeah…I have seen a very generalised ‘American is always best’ tendency in some reviews. SOME, but only some, top shelf American tools are excellent and I’ll buy them even though they cost double your US prices once imported here into UK. Generally expensive but worth it: Starrett, MidWest aviation shears, Woodpeckers, DeWalt and many others. European tools also have their excellence brands with Fische Forstner bits, Bahco, Presch, Mitutoyo, and more. These are MY experiences, but all countries can produce absolute rubbish. There is no substitute for research huh! Of course there are much less expensive, less prestige tools too, but generally you get what you pay for and it is true many cheaper alternatives still work just fine. If however, you buy cheap tools made of cast Chinesium, well take a guess.
Thanks for taking the time to comment! Like you, I appreciate quality and precision regardless of where it originates. I've got a great Brown and Sharpe dial indicator that was made in Germany, and a great Mitutoyo test indicator that was made in Japan, and lots of other tools from all over the world that are well made and reliable.
But I also appreciate dirt cheap tools as long as they do the job I need them to do. To me, that's value.
To the person who complained about the lack of instructions....I would like to quote a friend of mine who has passed "Box your computer back up and send it back to the company. You are too stupid to own a computer." I think you get the idea.
It does seem like something that ought to be rather intuitive
But how can they box it back up without any instructions?
Bought for each daughter for their home tool kit. Outstanding quality. Well made and very handy. I keep one in the upstairs bathroom, too. Saves me running to the garage when I need a quick fix.
Very very handy! Good on you for buying it for your daughters :)
I bought a Huot Drill Index Case about 40 years ago, and it's still the same as it was when I bought it.
That’s awesome. Glad to hear they’ve been making good stuff for that long!
I have that Klein 32500 in my every day tool bag. I also carry their 32900 socket driver and a couple of random bits that work with it. Round that out with a pair of angle cutters, small vise grips, small adjustable spanner, snap-blade knife, 6" steel rule, and a 16' tape measure. I work in QC for a company that makes construction drilling equipment.
I've never been let down by a Klein tool - been using them since 2006.
Sounds like a great track record with your Klein tools. How do you like the 32900?
@ShopHumor it's good. I grabbed an impact hex to 1/4" socket drive. Pair that with a small set of 1/4" drive metric sockets and I have a really effective setup.
Sometimes I bring a Klein multimeter if it's an electrical kind of day. Usually my workplace has all the tools, but it can be a real time waster tracking down everything I need to diagnose a problem. I like to keep a basic set of tools in my bag.
Thanks for letting me know. I'm going to check it out and might pick one up!
In the Air Force, and I imagine in other branches, day one of a mechanical tech school you have to show proficiency with a screwdriver after receiving instruction on its use. The struggle is real for some people.
Oof....
Every Klein tool I have I found and they're all pretty good and worked their way into my box (including the larger version of this screwdriver) except the one multimeter I actually bought.
Naturally, it broke.
Of course that’s the way it always goes …
Those Klein 11in1 screwdrivers are incredible.
Pretty dang good!
I've had several of the Klein screwdrivers over the past decade, and more recently bought the impact rated one. Now I have the ratcheting impact one. I love it and I don't even carry other screwdrivers at work (other than a 3/16" cabinet prybar!) I definitely recommend any Klein 11 in 1 style screwdriver.
I'd like to try the ones you mentioned and I also heard good things about their stubby version!
@@ShopHumor I had forgotten about the stubby. I had one for a while, until it mysteriously disappeared from my tool bag! Never did get another
My experience is that when I need a stubby, I need something really short, so I use a passthrough 1/4" ratchet with bits. A lot of times the multibit stubby was still too long to get into some places
Good tip on the pass through ratchet!
I had a friend that owned a golf course who said “I cater to 90% of the public because you can never please the other 10%.”
Honestly the Klein 11-in-1 is iconic in the trades it is probably the most common screw driver that people have in their bag and the most copied multi-bit screwdriver ever. Every tradesman I have ever met either has owned one or still does. Mine moved out of my bag and into a drawer in the kitchen (kids always asking me to change the batteries in things lol) when I upgraded to the Klien 20-in-1 to combine my screwdriver and nutdriver into 1 tool to save weight.
How do you like the 20 in 1?
@ShopHumor I like it but it's heavy. It's lighter in my bag than carrying 2 tools though and it covers having bits for my impact driver in my bag so it cuts a lot of tool bag weight and space used. I'm a commercial refrigeration tech that does mostly grocery stores so cutting weight I'm lugging around back and forth across a store all day is a big deal to me
That screwdriver does 90% of what I need for light maintenance and repair at my job. It's "walked away" on me twice it's so good.
Crazy how the good tools always seem to grow a pair of legs isn't it
@ShopHumor as long as I'm not buying, I'm not too upset about it. Affirms my feelings on it (very useful, easy to use & feels like a quality tool)
I've found my Klein 11-in-1 to be the best screwdriver I've ever owned. Having the stealth nut drivers has come in so handy, (some people never realize that you can use it as a nut driver). I've used one almost daily for at least the last 15 years. Maybe longer.
It’s really handy. My boy and I just used the nut driver yesterday to remove and thaw the ice maker in our fridge that was frozen over.
Klien 11-in 1 is awesome, as an actual electrician, this was my day to day stand- by for years, a pair of linesman pliers and the 11 in 1 and you're set.
Heck yeah. We've already put it to good use. He has taken apart a lot of his toys (of course) and we've used it to work on fixing the fridge that was iced over.
Klein is the tool brand I would recommend to someone without knowing exactly what they're looking at (pliers, side cutters, screwdrivers, etc). I've never regretted buying any Klein. Could there be better tools? Yeah, sure, but Klein is a pretty safe bet.
That's a really good way to put it. They're just dependable. The very best at everything? Probably not, but do they get the job done? Yeah.
The Klein 11/1 was made made years ago specifically for the electricians at my workplace by request, and has now become a wide used tool. . I use one every day. it fits all our lighting fixtures, I only need it, a ticker and a pair of strippers to do %99 of my job
It’s so handy, its no surprise that it’s been so widely adopted
Customer reviews can be hilarious! Saw a review on a food sealer that headlined "It no work!" She included a video. Yep, it no work. Never mind that she never latched the sealer at all so it COULDN'T work. I sure wished there had been a way to offer to take it off of her hands for free, she pays shipping. I bought one and it works great.
It would be nice if there was a way to respond to reviews, not necessarily to be mean, but just to help point people in the right direction that clearly need a little guidance haha
that klein screwdriver is great, youre absolutely spot on with your assertions.
Thanks! And thank you for taking the time to leave a comment, I really appreciate it!
Im a communication worker. Early in my career when I was working at peoples homes and businesses I needed a full tool set. Today I work with a lot of fiber and the equipment that is attached to that fiber - this is my go to tool in my tool pouch (altho we tend to use the 10-in-1 because it just fits better, and we've not had a lot of good takes on the 11-in-1, where they added the hex drive to the handle, from our employees quality wise), then my flats, snips and angel cutters.
I've heard really good things about the 10-in-1s that people have been using for years. I'm not surprised to hear you say that too, and you probably get to use yours a hundred times more than I ever will
I've had my Klien 11-in-1 for about 25 years. It is nice to be able to carry one tool and have several different options. Mine is a little tight when trying to remove the bits and I sometimes have to use pliers to pull them out. The biggest complaint I have is finding replacement bits when one disappears. It was cheaper to buy the Klien stubby multi screwdriver than buying the bits I needed. The takeaway from that is don't lend this tool to any numties on the job.
I'll have to look at the stubby, maybe grab one for my electrical toolbox.
I agree that the Habor Freight drill case is less than desirable, but when you spend 100 dollars for the drills (and crummy) case, 50 dollars, just for a replacement case, would stick in my craw a bit too much (pun not intended but pretty good).😃 Nice review in any case (uh-oh, another pun).
Lmao yeah it was a little bit of a hard pill to swallow, but I actually used the 25% off coupon when I got my HF set so it was only $75, and I went in planning on probably upgrading the case. My short term plan was to use the HF case as a catch all for all the miscellaneous drill bits that I've been accumulating for years, and then eventually to move the HF cobalt drills back to their original case when (or if, might never happen) I buy a "high quality" drill index one piece at a time. But so far the HF cobalt drills have done everything I've needed them to do, so I might not ever that that "high quality" cobalt set. We'll see
I will give one criticism on those interchangeable tip screwdrivers. I love them, but it's criminal not to sell a replacement bit set. Especially with that Klein, and if you're switching frequently, which is the point, you're going to lose one which will frustrate you to no end.
Agreed. They should be cheap and easily obtainable. I think it's really the only major criticism I've seen seen for the screwdriver that I agree with wholeheartedly.
i have a klein "multi" screwdriver. made in the big T.
works just fine.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Much appreciated!
The Klein 11-in-1 is a damn solid go-to driver. I prefer my Lenox, mostly because of how it feels and looks, but they're both great.
Which Lenox do you use? I'll have to take a look!
That Klein 11-in-1 looks ideal for a tool you’d stash in a glove box, range bag or tackle box “just in case”.
I think it's perfect for that and exactly what it was designed for!
I have an OLD 6 in 1 'screwdriver' that I have used to the point of wearing the handle smooth in places. its PERFECT for the majority of my work I do. I think it cost me $1.99 about 30 years ago.
Man, paying $2 for a screwdriver and getting 30 years out of it is a pretty freaking good deal
The screwdriver instructions are included in the Klein pencil instruction manual.
I like that -- very efficient. lol
I bought one of these years ago and promptly lost one of the insert bits. No problem, until I discovered I couldn't buy replacement bits. To get replacement bits you have to buy a whole new tool.
Other than Klein's unwillingness to sell replacement bits, it's a great tool. Just don't drop a bit inside a wall.
The bits (and the rubber grip coming loose) seem to be the two main complaints people have about this screwdriver. I wish they had easily available replacement bits too.
As an alternative, Megapro makes fantastic screwdrivers that come with 7 double-ended bits that all fit in the handle and is USA-made, and have a range of different job specific models. They even have a model with a 1/4 hex quick lock so you can use standard impact driver bits.
The Linus Tech Tips screwdriver is a licensed and modified version of their ratchet mechanism and bit holder as well.
I'll have to take a look at the Megapro, thanks! I've seen the LTT screwdriver and have thought about picking one up, might just have to do that! I've also always wanted a Brownells master set... one day.
Instructions for screwdriver:
1. use screwdriver handle as hammer
2. use flathead bits to open paint cans
3. use flathead bits as a pry bar
4. use all other bits when inserted to the bit holder to drive screws by rotating tool left or right
so the Klein is more like "14 in 1" than "11 in 1"
I will admit to having a couple heavy duty big ass flathead screwdrivers that I use as mini prybars from time to time haha
@@ShopHumor the infamous demolition screwdriver! Otherwise known as the one you bleeped up using for something other than turning screws righty tighty lefty loosey
I use that 11-1 at work. Often almost everday. Only real issue is if you flick it to hard the bits inside the handle with deloge themselfs and you get a maraca. Aside from that? Works fine, not sure how it is “heavy”. On a side note they make tiny rachets. There good for small work or hard to reach places.
A couple other people mentioned those tiny ratchets I had no idea they existed.. I'm absolutely going to have to get one. Sounds so cool! Thanks for commenting :)
"screw driver unusable no instructions" had to be a troll. For anyone who wants to use standard bits, for about the same price, Klein also makes an excellent 14-in-1 that has standard bits stored in the handle and an adjustable-length impact-rated shaft.
I wish it was, and I guess it’s possible, but… I’m not convinced lol. I’d love to try that 14-in-1, I’m going to have to get one.
We had tamper proof panels, that were tied into our UPS, for computer rooms. The handle fit the screws they were round with wings. The specialized Driver worked a little better, but I could access the panels with the Klein.
That's interesting! I wouldn't have thought to do that...
I have a few of the Klein screwdrivers. They might be slightly heavy, but they're a lot lighter than toting multiple screwdrivers in my tool bag.
That's for damn sure. There's a lot to be said about being self contained. And they're not THAT heavy...
I have Nitro drill set that came with the Huot box. Both are top shelf. I worked in and owned a machine shop for years. Huot boxes do wear out occasionally in this environment, but there is no better index out there that I know of.
I'll have to look at the Nitros, thank you!
I think we are on the same side. I used that Klein screwdriver for multiple years in a field service roll with no issues. When you need tools that do multiple jobs, that Klein should be on the short list. They make a stubby version that I also highly recommend.
I'm going to have to check out the stubby. Thanks for the recommendation!
@@ShopHumor Had to get under some raised metal flooring multiple times and the stubby was convenient to keep in my pants pocket when needed to unscrew the flatheads.
I have had the klein 11 in 1 for probably around 10 years now. Its a good overall combo but a bit thick for certain applications, nothing you can do about that if you want the nut driving capability. Do not put a lot of torque on it as the bits are very hard but brittle and dont use it as a beater lol. 0 issues and i would recommend it. I didnt have this happen with this tool but the conduit reamer same handle cracked from trying to remove a bur. It was purchased around the same time and was around 9 years old with original blade. Handle may crack over time. Electrician here.
Good tip on torquing the bits, thank you. I'm sure as an electrician you get way more experience running this tool than I ever will!
Many years ago, I bought a hammer that said, "do not strike hardened surfaces with this hammer." It was a pretty ordinary carpenter's hammer, so I'm still not sure what that was all about.
That’s a hoot. A hammer with a warning label!
I have seen a few. The first was on a Fastcap Flatback tape measure. this is a specialty flat tape measure, for measuring the circumference of round things. there is several reviews on amazon complaining about it not having the normal tape measure shape.
The second I will share was a face shield, people kept complaining that they couldn't see out of it. They had all left the protective film on.
That's wild. Thanks for sharing with me!! Leaving the protective film on is golden lol
Received my first hand tools when I was about 6 years old. Took apart everything that I could find much to the surprise and dismay of my parents.
Just part of growing up :)
Serious with a side of humor, special attention for airheads. Thank you.
Lol thank you! I appreciate you taking the time to comment
Industrial electrician/millwright here. There are 6 tools I have on my person 100% of the time at work. Mini flashlight, 6"/150mm pocket scale, 1/8" screwdriver, Fiskars Pro folding knife, 6" adjustable wrench and a Klein 11-in-1, magnetic version. I'm on my 2nd, the only reason I had to replace is I lost a bit from the non-mag and it's cheaper to buy an entire unit. Current one is still going strong after 3 years of daily industrial use and I'd feel lost without it in my leg pocket. The only downside is reduced reach, if dealing with a recessed screw (such as in electrical contactors). Would recommend for anyone.
I'd like to try the magnetic version I need to pick one up. I also always have my 6"/150mm scale on me whenever I'm working in the shop!
New subscriber here. Enjoyed this video. It’s so true about wildly different reviews on the same stuff. I’ve got a Klein 11in1 magnetic driver and love it. I’ve also got a couple of smaller Huot drill indexes that are probably 40 years old. Good stuff.
Thank you so much for watching, subscribing, and taking time out of your day to comment. I really appreciate it! I bet those 40 year old Huots are fantastic. I like new tools, but I love old ones :)
Reviewing the reviewers! 😁 What a brilliant idea, given the fact there's so much misleading, irrelevant hype, dishonesty of reviewers are in abundance due to and corporate payoffs of these days.😢
Thank you! I had fun making the video, glad you enjoyed it :) I appreciate you taking the time to comment, too
I love this thing, as a resi oil technician you could send me into a basement with one of these and some channel lock 420's and I can fix most common problems. and its cheap enough I dont worry about the handle getting wrecked from heating oil
Man I bet that's some hard work. I trust guys like you who use these tools day in and day out.
I use my 11-1 every day, great tool! In a pinch with a different bit it still works. At 4:29 your panel bezel is upside down.
I'm not an electrician but a couple people pointed that out and I went back to look, it looks like it's... reversible? The keyhole slots on the top face the opposite way (narrow part on top, wider part on bottom) , so rotating it 180 degrees would effectively not change anything. The top would become the bottom and it would look exactly as it does now, but the door would swing left to right instead of right to left. The screw slots in the middle don't have keyholes, just regular holes. Looks like this one (or one of the same design): www.homedepot.com/p/Eaton-BR-200-Amp-80-Circuit-Indoor-Main-Breaker-Plug-On-Neutral-Load-Center-BRP40B200/307648498
The Huot has each drill labeled in it's usual name and in thousandths which looks super convenient.
It is super convenient! I really appreciate their attention to detail :)
I bought one of those large drill bit sets some 40 (?) years ago from Enco. (I've had it seemingly forever) Still sits on a shelf right behind my lathe and don't care that the box is poor quality as I have never closed it. A full set of number drills, fractional drills, and letter drills is incredibly useful. Many of the number drills have broken over the years but that's to be expected since they are small and get used often. I just replace them as needed. I have a number of smaller indexes and lots of drill bits. All get used but when I need a small bit, this is where I go to get it.
That's great. I probably shouldn't let it bother me that the box was so crummy, but it did (a little). I really just wanted an excuse to get the Huot and see how well it was made compared to the one that came with the set. I'm glad I did even if it was a bit expensive considering the cheap cost of the cobalt drills I put inside it, but I don't regret buying it at all. I'll keep it forever
Dishwasher safe. I would never buy a tool that isn't dishwasher safe. Especially a tool bit holder. Hilarious. I once wanted to buy some replacement tires for a cart that I had for over twenty years. Checking the reviews I found the glass was unsafe and would break when overheated. Other reviews stated that standard candles sizes would not fit in these items. After several reviews of more reviews, I realized all the reviews pertained to glass candle holders, not the tires for my cart. Although the item description gave the size of the tires, showed a picture of black tires, and were priced in the range of similar brands of tires, Amazon had posted reviews for another product and not for the tires. It is great and a laff to see you post reviews of products that aren't related to the actual product. Just today, I was purchasing a skillet online and a review of a pan made by the same company as one star was because the buyer purchased a pan that was smaller than the one they wanted. Yes, you wanted a two quart sauce pan and ordered a one quart and were upset because you got the one quart. It can't be your fault, the manufacturer should know that you need to put two quarts of food you are preparing in the one quart pan and should make it large enough for you to do so. Keep up the great work and please continue to include they crazy "dishwasher safe" reviews for all my tool needs.
Lmao, those are my favorite. It just cracks me up when people buy a tool to do a job that it wasn't intended to do, and then complain when it doesn't do it very well, or they buy a product (like the skillet you mentioned) that is obviously not what they need, and then are upset that they got what they paid for.
Way to go, his first Klein. I've got Klein tools older than I am (67) and I warrantied out a 40 year old pair of diagonal cutters the other day. First Klein I ever wore out.
That’s fantastic! I’d love to have some vintage Klein tools too (not calling you vintage 😂). There is just something about using a tool that is older than you are that makes whatever job you’re doing that much more satisfying.
@@ShopHumor The first tool I bought was a 4 inch Crescent for $4 and change, when I was around 12, to work on my first 10 speed, which I had bought with lawn mowing money. It's in a top drawer now, along with heirloom pocket knives and watches. Still like brand new. The ten speed didn't last that long. I was so proud. Nothing like the first purchase made with your own earned cash.
Agreed completely. That's a great treasure I'm so glad you still have it
"No instructions" - this is, of course, a safety feature, to protect those who need instructions for a screwdriver from attempting the dangerous, scary and potentially maiming screwing and unscrewing of small screws. Safety first!
Quite the clever safety feature haha
My only down on the driver is that when you round off the phillips bits(and let's be honest we all do in time) you can't then easily replace them
Yep, sourcing the bits is definitely a down side
I don't like the Klein 11-in-1, but it is a well made tool. I just think the kind with the bits in the handle are a much better design, which Klein also makes.
Which is your favorite driver with the bits in the handle?
@ShopHumor It might sound meme-ish, but the Linus Tech Tips is my favorite.
For 1/3 the price I also really like the Klein 13-in-1 ratcheting screwdriver. However, the bits are a non-standard length and I've found them to not be very durable. I've broken a few in normal use. It will work with any standard quick-connect bit or socket, but won't hold them in the handle very well.
It doesn't sound meme-ish. I've heard really, really good things about the LTT screwdriver.
Sounds like that 1st review you posted was probably a problem of tolerance stacking. The bit was at the extreme of the tolerance in one direction & the driver itself at the extreme of tolerance in the other direction. It happens & yes it sucks, but I'm not bailing on an otherwise good company for it.
Agreed. You're probably right
Only problem with those Klein screwdrivers is that if you lose a tip, you have to buy a whole new screw driver. I use the Harbor Freight 4 in 1. They are normally free a few times a year, and if you lose a tip, just go get another free one. They are surprisingly strong, as long as you don’t beat on it with a hammer.
That does seem to be the main complaint about the tips / bits. I'll have to look at that HF! Thanks!
This video cracked me up. There is no way that some of those reviews were real 😂😂😂
Lmao I promise they were all real, I even cut one out that said the screwdriver caused her divorce cause I thought it was too crazy