Roy, as a fellow Langmuir Crossfire Pro owner I have to agree on the water pan, fortunately I've been lucky that mine has not leaked. The cross rail bearing design can be problematic but is one of the things that make the Pro an affordable solution. I encourage owners to clean the rails. I wipe mine down at when I'm done and I've never had an issue. The only issues I've really had was the screw couplers which I replaced with ones from McMaster. I did that before the first cuts. Certainly worth considering keep bearing spares around if down time is important to you. I also happen to have the Hypertherm Powermax 65, what a beautiful piece of equipment.
Thanks Roy and Thomas, brings back old memories when I worked in a fab shop. They had a much larger machine, capable of 10 x 20 ft. plate 1 in. thick. The operator rode the machine in a chair at the controls, no mater the size of the machine, you have to keep a close eye on the operation. All it takes is a hiccup in the program, or a piece of debris on the track and scrap we have. Thanks for showing, not everyone has the chance to see these kind of machines at work. 👀👍🔥 ⚒
Great review Roy, glad to know it's easy to operate and use. CNC equipment seems daunting. I've enjoyed all the blanks that I purchased from you and happy to see your business grow. And thank you Thomas for all your hard work
Very nice review Roy. Always good to see a new video my friend. Can't wait to see more videos soon my friend Roy. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. God Bless.
Great explanation and review. We used to get the big bosses ask why someone had to stand there next to our cnc cutter and watch the machine. I would think even with tip up protection you'd still need to babysit. Our bed was 12.7 m (~42 ft) x 4 m (~13 ft) with 3 gas cutting heads. We used to cut from 6 mm (1/4") to 120 mm (4.7") and the machine was capable of cutting upto 12" thickness I was told. We had an ancient old hypertherm we would attach for plasma on nonferrous cutting. We did profile cutting and plate stripping for our heavy fabrication shop. We actually had two operators, one running the machine, the other programming, picking parts and cleaning up parts and helping load and unload plates and constantly cleaning the area and removing scrap and brining in plates with the help of the yard crew. We could have the machine cutting a 6m (20 ft) plate and carefully load the next 6 m plate ready to go. The bed had a small gap half way (essentially two tables) along to stop vibrations being transmitted to the other plate being cut. The biggest single fabrication project we cut out parts for in our shop used a total of 460 ton of plate. Another shop cut the other half of the project of equivalent tonnage to keep the project on time.
Hey Roy, There is a guy that manufacture here in Troy Ohio not far from Sofa that builds them in his garage i have ran mine hard in the fab shop have no issue with bearing or x and y traverse very affordable for either the 4x4 or the 4x8 all water bed no leaks
Just bought one. I’ll probably run one off pieces with it and some fabrication parts. Already have 13 companies in hand. I’ll have an electrician come out and wire it for me, I don’t mind paying the extra money. Wish me luck
Great to see behind the curtain a bit ! If it helps at all I run a $90,000 cybteck table at my day job, and that one has the same kind of downfalls especially the babysitting.
It would be amazing if you could do a simple project from beginning to end. I have the pro as well. I'm have problems figuring out fusion 360. Thanks in advance. From concept to cut piece
Hey Roy and Thomas. Are the bearings fully sealed (neoprene seal) or the cheap semi-sealed type (steel cover with slight gap that grit gets through)? I found my band saw came with the cheap semi-sealed type which seems a crazy idea considering all the swarf that falls on them but manufacturers cut corners to remain competitive.
I bought mine new 2 years ago I think. Got the hypertherm. Still haven’t set the table up. Use the plasma cutter often. Seeing this I’ll make a rubber gasket. Hope to get to it this summer
The fire control. I notice you have all the blue lines straight lines. Ok if you get a tip up on a peice that has been cut then the plasma cutter could run into it. So my point is I would want to go around any piece I already cut and not go over the top of it.
Make some axis wipers out of old belt material to keep the rails and bearings clean. Use an actual engine gasket material be it sheet or liquid to seal the trays. Its a very budget minded CNC plasma table. If you cant figure out solutions for small issues you probably should just skip the budget system and go spend the bucks on a higher production machine.
Yes. You’ll use a variety of electrodes and nozzles under normal condition . Most manufacturers and suppliers have kits that are a much better deal than buying by the piece.
The machine has been leaking water for 1.5 years and not been fixed? Why not weld up the water pan or reseal it? The machine rails look real dirty maybe they should be cleaned and maintained after each use.
The water pans. What if they made all four sides the same height? I can see no logical reason the one side is lower. If they were the same height there would be no need for silicon.
Roy, as a fellow Langmuir Crossfire Pro owner I have to agree on the water pan, fortunately I've been lucky that mine has not leaked. The cross rail bearing design can be problematic but is one of the things that make the Pro an affordable solution. I encourage owners to clean the rails. I wipe mine down at when I'm done and I've never had an issue. The only issues I've really had was the screw couplers which I replaced with ones from McMaster. I did that before the first cuts. Certainly worth considering keep bearing spares around if down time is important to you. I also happen to have the Hypertherm Powermax 65, what a beautiful piece of equipment.
Thanks Roy and Thomas, brings back old memories when I worked in a fab shop. They had a much larger machine, capable of 10 x 20 ft. plate 1 in. thick. The operator rode the machine in a chair at the controls, no mater the size of the machine, you have to keep a close eye on the operation. All it takes is a hiccup in the program, or a piece of debris on the track and scrap we have. Thanks for showing, not everyone has the chance to see these kind of machines at work. 👀👍🔥 ⚒
Thanks for the review. Always good to see you and The Hand Model 😀
Great review Roy, glad to know it's easy to operate and use. CNC equipment seems daunting. I've enjoyed all the blanks that I purchased from you and happy to see your business grow. And thank you Thomas for all your hard work
Good honest review. The blanks I've purchased have great edges - extremely minimal edge cleanup. Great work gentlemen!
Very nice review Roy. Always good to see a new video my friend. Can't wait to see more videos soon my friend Roy. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. God Bless.
Great explanation and review. We used to get the big bosses ask why someone had to stand there next to our cnc cutter and watch the machine. I would think even with tip up protection you'd still need to babysit. Our bed was 12.7 m (~42 ft) x 4 m (~13 ft) with 3 gas cutting heads. We used to cut from 6 mm (1/4") to 120 mm (4.7") and the machine was capable of cutting upto 12" thickness I was told. We had an ancient old hypertherm we would attach for plasma on nonferrous cutting.
We did profile cutting and plate stripping for our heavy fabrication shop.
We actually had two operators, one running the machine, the other programming, picking parts and cleaning up parts and helping load and unload plates and constantly cleaning the area and removing scrap and brining in plates with the help of the yard crew. We could have the machine cutting a 6m (20 ft) plate and carefully load the next 6 m plate ready to go. The bed had a small gap half way (essentially two tables) along to stop vibrations being transmitted to the other plate being cut. The biggest single fabrication project we cut out parts for in our shop used a total of 460 ton of plate. Another shop cut the other half of the project of equivalent tonnage to keep the project on time.
Hey Roy,
There is a guy that manufacture here in Troy Ohio not far from Sofa that builds them in his garage i have ran mine hard in the fab shop have no issue with bearing or x and y traverse very affordable for either the 4x4 or the 4x8 all water bed no leaks
Send me his details if you don't mind 🙂
Thank you! We're a makerspace considering this machine. The bearings and other issues are really important. You should send this to Langmuir.
So glad it is working out. Great work gentlemen. 👏👏🤞🙏
Just bought one. I’ll probably run one off pieces with it and some fabrication parts. Already have 13 companies in hand. I’ll have an electrician come out and wire it for me, I don’t mind paying the extra money. Wish me luck
I'll have to get with Thomas to help me work some software issues out. I'm not using mine to its full potential
Great to see behind the curtain a bit ! If it helps at all I run a $90,000 cybteck table at my day job, and that one has the same kind of downfalls especially the babysitting.
Nice candid review. It sounds like an economical option for entry level. Thx.
Honest reviews! At Last!
reading all the comments some of those tables are huge would like to play with one thank all you guys
Thanks for this informative video.
As I am purchasing this table Monday.
You're welcome
It would be amazing if you could do a simple project from beginning to end. I have the pro as well. I'm have problems figuring out fusion 360. Thanks in advance. From concept to cut piece
Hey Roy and Thomas. Are the bearings fully sealed (neoprene seal) or the cheap semi-sealed type (steel cover with slight gap that grit gets through)? I found my band saw came with the cheap semi-sealed type which seems a crazy idea considering all the swarf that falls on them but manufacturers cut corners to remain competitive.
I bought mine new 2 years ago I think. Got the hypertherm. Still haven’t set the table up. Use the plasma cutter often. Seeing this I’ll make a rubber gasket. Hope to get to it this summer
Just weld it up so you don't ever have to worry about it.
Thanks for sharing... I am a newbie so this was really great insight!
Hey just out of curiosity, you mentioned the bearings go out regularly. Can you share why that’
s happening? Is it water exposure? Thanks.
The fire control. I notice you have all the blue lines straight lines. Ok if you get a tip up on a peice that has been cut then the plasma cutter could run into it. So my point is I would want to go around any piece I already cut and not go over the top of it.
Is there a more flexible torch option that wouldn't stress your fixture?
Something more compatible with your table?
Which bearings do you use to replace ? I’ve seen a lot of people use skateboard bearings
Do you have a air Dyer? If so what do you use?
What laptop do you recommend using ?
I wonder how hard it would be to swap out for steppers with encoders.. The software side of things.
What horsepower is your compressor
Make some axis wipers out of old belt material to keep the rails and bearings clean. Use an actual engine gasket material be it sheet or liquid to seal the trays. Its a very budget minded CNC plasma table. If you cant figure out solutions for small issues you probably should just skip the budget system and go spend the bucks on a higher production machine.
Are there consumables needed
Yes. You’ll use a variety of electrodes and nozzles under normal condition . Most manufacturers and suppliers have kits that are a much better deal than buying by the piece.
The machine has been leaking water for 1.5 years and not been fixed? Why not weld up the water pan or reseal it? The machine rails look real dirty maybe they should be cleaned and maintained after each use.
Nice stuff, checked out the website. Incredible prices… it reminded me of that quote by jesus, “wring em of every dollar they earn”
Maybe you should keep it clean and then wont experience problems.
Thomas!!!!!!!!
The water pans. What if they made all four sides the same height? I can see no logical reason the one side is lower. If they were the same height there would be no need for silicon.
Skateboard bearings...😁
FOOK, haha