Ivan the gorilla lived alone in a shopping mall for over 20 years (The Urban Gorilla)
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2014
- From THE URBAN GORILLA. Produced, written & directed by Allison Argo in 1992 and narrated by Glenn Close, this award-winning film was a catalyst for Ivan's move to Zoo Atlanta. Though Ivan's story is sad one, it ultimately had a happy ending.
From Allison Argo: "When I first met Ivan, he was living alone in a tacky, low-end shopping mall. He hadn't seen another gorilla or felt the grass beneath his feet for over 20 years. I knew that I had to bring Ivan's story to the world in hopes of changing his life - and the lives of other gorillas like him." - Домашні улюбленці та дикі тварини
Just so everyone knows, Ivan eventually moved to the Atlanta Zoo where he lived a great life until 2012 when he passed.
Detective Hawk did he die
So from one prison to bigger prison. I dont see the great life.
Sam Iyam Since Ivan never developed any survival skills for the wild and sanctuaries have no experience in rehabilitating gorillas, a zoo was his best chance. Even PAWS agreed with giving him to a zoo. If you watch Zoo Atlanta's video, Ivan is constantly smiling.
I hope that’s true, this brought me to tears.
Thank u for that info cause I was about to freak out! Lol but seriuosly!
It's so sad that society was angry for Harambes death, but no one looked here for Ivans lonely life, and passing. RIP Ivan
Only people from the pierce co area from the 70's to the 90's really know about ivan. Most of the people on this thread are here because we visited ivan at some point in our lives. As a kid i used to take the bus to b&i just to spend time with him, and play arcades of course.
And people who have read the book.
There was no child in danger that’s why
Both of them are tragic! I mean shooting the gorilla for a kid of an overpopulated specie… Insane
His life was pretty good after he moved to Atlanta. Ppl who grew up in Atlanta should know him too (after Willie B. of course, who sadly had a similar life story but also a happy ending)
Who came here after seeing the movie
Me because they made the movie seem so happy, I feel like they changed way too much and took out alot of good things from the movie that were in the book.
Poor Ivan he died in the year I was born....😭😥😟😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😔☹️😣💔💔
I read the book too! The movie and book are really good! I’m so sad he had to live like this!! 😢😢😭😭
Me. Just finish it. Damn where is bob ?😁
meeeee
Alone for twenty years. No freedom or friend what a disgrace. What a stupid selfish person to have done this. I'm sure they had their lame excuses. Not to see the sky, trees or felt the wind on Ivan's face. I hope he was happy and found some peace with the remainder of the time he had.
+ Margaret Davies Ivan was eventually relocated. Not before time. Some happiness was had but such a waste of his precious days. Watch, listen and learn. I hope the human race does.
Powerranger6342 Thank you. It's lovely to know that he was cared for in the end. I appreciate your information. It's hard for those who looked after him but at least they loved him and helped him and had his best interests at heart.😀
Powerranger6342 Thank you. It's lovely to know that he was cared for in the end. I appreciate your information. It's hard for those who looked after him but at least they loved him and helped him and had his best interests at heart.😀
Margaret Davies
Being a zoo volunteer myself, I am always looking out for the welfare of wild animals. Ivan may not have had a good start in life, but at least he got a good life in the end. Here's a link if you want to take a look at the timeline. www.zooatlanta.org/ivan
Powerranger6342 Thank you that's really nice of you. What upset me most was all that time wasted before he was moved. Stuck in that small depressing place with nothing. I'll have a look at your link and many thanks.
Absolutely disgusting how this was ever allowed is beyond me
@OceanBlue
Get help man, I know its the "goofey internet" but interjecting pop politics into this very real and dark video just rubs me the wrong way. Seriously calm down and get a hold of yourself. Wake up, you've lost your humanity for some fake virtual reality.
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@OceanBlue What a sad life you must live.
Whats wrong, Michael? Are you "TRIGGERED"? Liberals love using that word!
J M, not as bad as you Obama loving tools, HAHAHA! How you stupid leftists fell for his shit is way beyond me!
I saw Ivan about 18 years ago. I watched him regurgitate his food over and over and over again. Such a sad state he was in. It disgusted me that we would make an animal go crazy for our entertainment as humans.
I was there.
I remember him.
I visited often.
All these years later it still saddens me.
It wasn't often he would be close enough to the windows to look in his eyes. When it did happen. All I could see was the deep bark sadness of a lost life behind bars surrounded by concrete.
The other animals were in no better shape.
Not sure if people can feel the mental state of an animal. But it sure was depressing.
R.I.P old friend 😞
Frank Taylor sureeee
It might have been true. Just because u don't go to see nice things doesn't mean that. This is the internet not your next door neighboor
@@teddypee2116
What the hell are you even talking about?
Have to remember. I was only about 12 years old when last I saw him.
I have no idea what your comment means.
Maybe you should have your next door neighbor proof read before posting??
@@cookie_plays7018 leave him alone it could be true and even if it isn't you still shouldn't jump to conclusions like that its rude
I remember him the concrete room was disgusting
What a terrible room for a majestic animal
All animals deserve to live freely
RIP Ivan
I saw Ivan in his horrible cell in 1977-80 as I was stationed at Ft. Lewis, many times I would go and observe him, I was drawn to him some how and saddened by his circumstance on every encounter , patrons continuausly, tapping on the glass to get a reaction, I truly believe, the store owners were criminal for keeping this magnificent beast in such a horrible fashion, I am glad he found some happiness in Atlanta however fleeting his time there was, why man has been so cruel to his species is a mystery to me, and frankly one more example of mans ignorance , greed , self righteousness and ultimately our well deserved undoing.
👍 well put
+Will Penner So true. I wonder why people seeing him didn't get together and do something about it? Does animal welfare not exist in USA? Not even a tree branch in that box for him. It's so inhumane, ignorant and uncaring. He must have felt he was being punished, spending 'life' alone in that concrete hell. It turned my stomach to see that suffering.
I lived in lakewood wa in 1986. The locals raised 30,000 dollars for him to get that home in atlanta. We did do something about it. Besides that fact not much the people could do in the 80's when someone owned something they owned it.
I seen him in 1974,my daughter who i was pregnant with at the time,is 43 yrs old. I think somebody said he died,hope not but if he's still alive he's at least 50 yrs old,i'd think?
Will Penner Couldn't have put it better myself.
How sad to see this magnificent animal in a miserable place like this, only for the enjoyment or pleasure of us humans...how can we call ourselves human when we treat other creatures like this, when we don't even treat ourselves with respect or dignity
What a sad world!
I know.Why Would WE Treat Ivan like this after his miserable life as ,"The gorilla on exit 8." Society is Fucked up.Humans can be so cruel sometimes.
Fortunately, PAWS helped get Ivan relocated to an accredited zoo where he could live with his own kind.
Humans are animals too
At least he had the guy talking in the video. Sounded like he cared for him a lot and would do anything to give him better conditions.
Humans is just a label we gave ourselves there's nothing special to it. Just a name to describe another species, I hate it when people say "how can we call ourselves humans." for this and that. Truth is life can suck no matter who or what you are. Do something or deal with it.
I feel really sad seeing him looking around those 4 walls, can you imagine how hard would be stay a lot of days on the same room with everything on the same position?
That's so sad... :'-(
He was in there for 20 years. He got out and was happier for like 20 more years
Just got done reading The One and only Ivan and it made me so happy at the ending
Yes, he did. At Zoo Atlanta.
+SpectraProductions I'm reading it at school
+the boss Stella dies
the boss I'm reading it at school too
Stella had a baby named ruby
That's cruel to have ivan locked up in that small room... animal cruelty...
Ignorant and triggered.
It's pronounced domain
yazmeana you are correct I see you read the book
yazmeana or just really smart
YA I THINK THATS TRUE.
I WISH I COULD HAVE MET HIM.
IDONT NOW WHY THEY LOKED HIM UP?.
In 1990 I lived in Washington State & saw him just laying motionless on that cement floor😢
I remember seeing Ivan at that mall once or twice when I was a kid. It's so heartbreaking now to see this video and realize how isolated he was, basically living in a prison. Bob Daugherty the anthropologist was one of my professors a long time ago (he insisted we call him Bob. Great professor, loved his class). He told us about some of the games and stuff he would play with Ivan, like tug-of-war. Ivan was obviously stronger than him and would humor him by playing weaker... sometimes using his feet instead of his hands.
Hopefully Ivan had a happier life once he was moved to the zoo.
He did.
I wish more people would see animal captivity (the zoo) as prison because that's what they are. In most cases worse than prison. Imagine being a bird who's joy is to fly but is instead kept behind bars.....little wire bars :(
Luis Gin Ivan was taken by the pet trade before he could be taught any survival skills. An AZA accredited zoo was his best chance because he wouldn’t be able to survive in the wild. Zoo Atlanta did a fantastic job taking care of him and he can be seen smiling.
I am also a zoo volunteer and we love our animals very much. We’ll do everything we can to give them a happy life.
Why didn't a zoo step up sooner? I know this was before social media, but surely people could have advocated for Ivan!!
Luis Gin you don’t know what your talking about. Many zoos take dedicated and great care of their animals and the animals are very happy. Unlike this cell animals in zoos live in great habitats. I’m from Northern Ireland and the gorilla habitat in Dublin zoo is massive. Zoos also are in the endangered species breeding program to help animals and before you say just set them to the wild they couldn’t go to the wild cause they were born in the zoo with no survival traits learnt from their mothers. So before you start saying dumb information on the internet that just isn’t true please educate yourself
R.I.P. Ivan. I'm glad you finally got out of the B & I and had many good years with others in a nice place.
This is so sad. How this majestic animal was even allowed to live in these conditions is beyond me. He has no room, nothing to entertain himself but an old tire, and cold concrete with no windows just stuck in a pit. Poor Ivan. Just so happy he got his dream in the end and finally got the freedom he so rightfully deserved.
Hooray for his happy ending, but he should never have been placed in this situation in the first place...
Just disgraceful, how we treat these magnificent cousins.
AnimalLeftist Unfortunately, greed makes people do stupid things. I’m just glad that a zoo was able to give him a better life.
I myself have been on a concrete solitary confinement, partially of my own doing, and there was nothing nice about it. For him to be kept this way, undeservedly is a travesty. So glad to know that he finally made it out of there, and was at least put with his own kind.
Beretta sez dont do time do a crime!
I lived in Tacoma from 1982 to 1985. I saw Ivan whenever we went to B&I Mall. It always made me sad to see him all alone in a concrete cell. I remember there was a picture on the wall of Ivan as a baby and he had a plaster cast on his foot where he had apparently broken it. I doubt the Disney film even included that in their film, but I haven't seen it and I probably never will.
If it hadn't been for zoos, Ivan likely never would have had his happy ending. Because he could not be released into the wild, an AZA accredited zoo was his next best chance. Because Zoo Atlanta had a place that was similar to the wild, he eventually became the silverback leader of the gorilla troop that lived there. If it wasn't for the zoo, he likely would've died much sooner.
Powerranger6342 yea dude
Even tho he has a happy ending it’s still so unfair what they did
It’s disgusting how the room Ivan was in was even legal. 20 years. 20 YEARS. One of the most beautiful animals had to spend 20 years as a carnival animal in a shopping mall. R.I.P Ivan❤
Only a human being can do such miserable things.
as a yound boy, i lived in tacoma washington and going to see Ivan was always something i loved to do.. but as time went on you could see he was un happy... when it was announced that he would be going to the Atlanta Zoo, it broke my heart but healed it all at once.. i cried the day he left and i cried the day he died... today.. i cried at the end of the new movie.. im so happy he got to live his final years in Atlanta.. ill never forget the joy he gave me.. RIP Ivan
This just broke my heart and made me cry. My family used to go to the B & I in the mid-60's and would always stop to visit with Ivan. I remember that he always looked so sad and lonely and seeing this video...it was both heartening and heartrending... Thank you . R.I.P. Ivan...Forever Finally free!
I used to go see Ivan when I was a kid and it was sad. Most people that went to go see him would say how sad he looked. They used him solely to bring people to the store.
Got locked up for no reason!!! Thats what prison life looks like.
Bob daugherty was my 7th grade math and biology teacher. Every day, he told us stories about Ivan. He told us what a magnificent animal he was and how happy he was that he was in a outdoor, natural compound. He remains one of my favorite teachers ever. He has such a deep love for Ivan and I know he misses him daily.
I was in the same class! I came back to this video after all of these years because of my fond memories of him at MVMS. Truly one of the most interesting and passionate teachers out there.
wow poor ivan! this is so wrong.
I grew up visiting Ivan regularly...
.he started out in a circus wagon without much between him and I...a huge childhood memory.!!!
Horrifyingly disgusting & beyond heartbreaking. 💔 These animals need contact with fellow primates, not humans through glass confined to a small space! Even more sad is it’s nearly impossible for Ivan to be moved to a sanctuary or another compound, so I give this guy a _very_ small amount of credit for _trying_ to keep a highly intelligent, wild, exotic animal “entertained”.
Does anyone have an update about Ivan? This video is pretty old & Id love to think that Ivan was relocated somewhere with other primates he can socialize with, even meet a lovely female! I can only hope. 😪
he got moved to a zoo with acres of space and other gorillas.
he was much happier there and was constantly smiling.
I remember hearing he had a hard time getting into the pack at Atlanta at first. Beat up by the alpha female.
The sad thing is that we in Tacoma all loved Ivan and knew he wasn't happy but the every zoo around turned him down. They all turned him down for 26 years. It was a very hot topic at the time.
Ivan has since passed away, after being moved to Zoo Atlanta.
Did anyon3 else come to see this after watching the one and only ivan
i remember seeing him at the b&i several times when i was young and being horrified he was in that cement jail ..with nothing but a tire..he always looked painfully sad..as a grown up its hard to comprehend this was legal and allowed💔😭 rip sweet, majestic Ivan💛🙏💛✨
Seriously, what kind of inhumane person would do this. I thought there were laws to prevent animal cruelty, because if this is not cruel I don't know what is.
He has such a human face the por thing his intelligence went to waste. I just saw the movie and I read the book, I love how he finally got to live at Atlanta zoo. He made his last days count but it’s still unforgivable what humans have done to him!
Born and raised in Tacoma. I grew up visiting ivan. He always looked so sad. I hope he enjoyed the remainder of his years in Atlanta. Tacoma did love Ivan and always will. Thank you for sharing your life with us, ivan. It's been an honor. Truly.
That is so sad. My heart broke for him. He's in a concrete prison.
A massive FU To the owner for doing this to a beautiful animal
Me: being sad
"" youtube reccomends me this video""
Well im now even more sad >;(
I'm angry when someone says - 'he doesn't know what he doesn't know'. What utter rubbish! There would be a small remnant of something somewhere in his memory. I wanted to dislike the video I first saw of Ivan but for some reason there wasn't a place to even leave a comment let alone dislike it. Ivan sat up by the glass not because he was social and like to be with people. In his memory, he remembered his 'human brother', who left him in the back of the store after three years as a 'family member'. He probably sat there waiting and hoping his 'brother' would come by.
Maureen Green He did get a happier life when he was given to a zoo.
I just watched the movie on Disney+ today and I’ve read the book and it’s just so sweet and sad. They showed at the end a bunch of pictures of Ivan, and the one that made me cry was the picture of him finally at the zoo looking at a flower. That was so sweet. I’m glad he got to live out the rest of his life in a happy place
and people say harambe had a sad life smh
My mom grew up in Tacoma, and told me she saw Ivan when he was still at B&I... Just described him as "really, really sad looking."
I think just about everyone who saw him there including myself thought how sad it was.
One of the most painful things I saw recently.Though he is no more,his face showed profound sadness.. No one should suffer like this.. God bless the people who fought to set him free..
Grew up near the mall. My parents were younger while he was in there an they would visit him. They told me stories of how sad he looked. The B&I is in horrible condition now and only being used as a black market really. But When I go to the mall I can still see the room he was kept in. it's just a sad thing to see really.
Skoodle I heard that it had gone bankrupt. Ivan did pass away in 2012 at the old age of 50, but thanks to Zoo Atlanta, he had a much better life. Their video even shows him smiling.
@@Powerranger-le4up It did go bankrupt, but it's still open an though there are fewer, there are still stores in it. After he passed Zoo Atlanta has been telling the story as if they saved him (which they were a serious help) But after being trapped in a room as small as a walk in closet for 20 something years, he was never able to adjust socially with the other gorillas. If you really look into it he had a sad life in and out of the small room.
Skoodle According to what I read, he liked the enrichment and he interacted with the four females he lived with.
I'm here, after the book. Nice book, by the way
I just watch the one and only Ivan and I almost cried at the end.
I used to go see him as a kid and always felt so bad for him, you could see in his eyes his sadness.
Sadly that's not the only caged up animals they were so called showcasing, all throughout that store they had animals behind glass, I worked in the pet store dept in the 80's and it sickened me how little they cared, they had a Toucan that literally died from eating the wrong foods. I was so happy when the Atlanta zoo agreed to take Ivan to an outdoor enclosure. God bless you Ivan and thank you for the gentle memories ❤️🥰🙏
am I the only one who came after watching the movie and reading the book
I never read the book but I just come from watching the movie
@Shrek Boi Thank you for the suggestion I will..be safe
I read the book one and only ivan
same
+kawaiipop367 Same
+kawaiipop367 Same
The author went to my school once
Same I kinda read ahead in class and I know that Ivan gets a new giraffe friend
That has to be one of the saddest things I have ever seen. Living in a cement box. No mental stimuli. That is pure and utter torcher... I can't imagine how depressed and hopeless that beautiful beast experienced on a daily basis. With no escape in sight. I'm ashamed that I am a part of the human race that had everything to do with Ivan's misery. The only thing that brings me solace is knowing that he is in heaven. No longer experiencing the pain and depravity that us as humans caused him.
Daugherty's last year teaching was my 7th grade biology class. Im 21 now and he really inspired me throughout my life, he was a really great teacher. I wish I could meet him again someday.
This so sad I'm cry 😭😢
My heart cries..
This is like being in prison, this is so cruel, people can be so mean, wow! Bless you Ivan!
Who is here after watching , The one and only Ivan .
3:17 man just waiting for god to take his pain away😔💔
:(
So sad, poor Ivan
my teacher read me that story it was sad
cute cloud same
cute cloud rip stella
cute cloud R.I.P Stella
Same it is sad
Are you guys in my school
I too saw him occasionally when I was a child& remember when he went to a zoo allot of us were really happy about that. It's also sad that people have empathy for animals living like this but feel nothing for the 2M inmates in the US that live in allot smaller cement cells almost 23hrs a day& allot worse food, health care, and treatment. Nobody but mass murderers should be locked in cages all their life
I've noticed that some people think ALL animals are pretty much dumb and unintelligent, so they think putting a gorilla in a concrete cell here is no different than putting a mouse in a cage.
It is sad for Ivan
Itzel Sachez At least he had a better life once Zoo Atlanta adopted him.
I'm here from the book
I finished the one and only Ivan today. There's a literal puddle of tears in my bed now.
This is absolutely discusting, apparently there was more things for him to do there but they got taken away. Unfortunately the sad square of fake grass they put in just makes it more depressing and just sad to see. I am glad they moved him to a better place with other gorillas after this, it's nice to see that he could rest and be happy for his last few years on earth. He is happy in death and is running free, rest in peace we will always remember you 🎖
Poor ivan
Omg I have the book called The one and only Ivan it's a good book u should read it but we are reading it at school
Kayla Betancour And like the book, the real Ivan was given to a zoo where he lived the rest of his life in happiness. Zoo Atlanta has a video of him and he is smiling in it.
ruining it btw. we all have. that's why we've searched this up.
He died
My mother REFUSED to ever go to where they kept Ivan. She once got in a screaming match, calling everyone who did this to Ivan monsters. Poor sweet Ivan. May you rest in peace, no longer suffering at the hands of humans
Ok who's here after watching the movie im still crying T_T
Who else came here from the book
And he went to a zoo
He was in jail simple as that how would you feel alone for twenty year's..
Exactly! Living in a prison having committed no crime.
The movie said 27 years!
This is far more realistic than what Disney+ is showing.
Yeah they're going to sugar-coat it to death
i saw Ivan when i was a kid. He just sat there with his back against the wall. Poor Ivan.
My teacher read me the book and Ivan so cute
this is so sad all animals should not live in captive
and he was taken by the illegal pet trade
That's why AZA accredited zoos should only be allowed to care for them. Zoos cannot have gorillas unless they were born in captivity or were rescued from the illegal pet trade. Ivan lived a happy life in Zoo Atlanta and you should actually be grateful that this zoo saved Ivan's life.
He is in solitary confinement for no reason at all!
0:29 he’s like get me outta here
We've been trying for 15 years to find a female to lock in the concrete cell with Ivan 😢😢
That mad me even more mad aswell
Why do they need a female don’t put him in there in the first place!
So sad 😢
Who came here after reading "THE ONE AND ONLY IVAN"
me
I’m used to love this book and now that they actually made like a real movie about it
Yeah, I think Disney + is doing it. In honor of the extraordinary sliverback gorilla who does INCREDIBLE DRAWINGS.
This hurt my heart. RIP Ivan.
The one and only ivan is a book I learned it from my elementary school he is great his nickname is mud he liked mud his sister nickname was tag she liked tag ivan was a painter but he lived with Matt Matt is his owner but then he took him to a zoo
use it and dump it, the american way of life
He's English.
I worked at shopping area when he was their..he always looked so sad. Glad he got to Atlanta.
just recently went to the B&I and they still have where they kept him and tons of pictures and newspapers clippings Even meet a old man who used to work there and told us some stories of Ivan, he was very loved by all who worked with him and saw him.
My parents told me stories of him as well, like how my dads judo coach would go in and help exercise Ivan, or how he would slam on the glass to scare you when you weren’t looking at him, I even heard a story of him as a baby getting into a birthday cake.
The movie should have been about all the people who loved him and all the stories they had with him. Everyone in puyallup/Tacoma was sad that he was sent to a zoo out of state never to see their beloved gorilla again though I guess it was for the best. R.I.P Ivan
Thank God for those few of you that have exposed this horror to the public and helped end his suffering. Living in squalid isolation is a fate worse than death. It is hell on earth. I wish the same fate for those who placed this magnificent creature in this position.
This is the saddest looking enclosure I've ever seen
I watched the movie and the book. I feel SO bad for Ivan to be in that horrible small cage. He had no room and nothing to do for about 20 years.
This is so sad. It’s nothing short of mental abuse.
Poor ivan . He was in there for 20 years and I'm 8 and he was still all alone in there suffering
Absolutely insane to me that Ivan was locked in that blank cell for 27 years. I was only 4 or 5 at the time I saw him at the B&I, but even then I felt bad for him because I’d always had a soft spot for animals.
I understand things were just different back then, but at least he did eventually get out of there. He died in 2012 at age 50.
This is just sad, I remember learning this a few years ago about animal cruelty a few years ago
Wait how many years ago?
I think it is so sad that he can't have his sister back... R.I.P Ivan's sister
I honestly love this!!!!! I read the book called "the one and only ivan" and that book seriously made me cry like oh I don't know maybe 100 times I just love it so I wanna say thank you to Ivan
This is sad, I’ve read the book, I thought it was made up. But no, it’s real alright. I’m ashamed to be the same kind, human kind, that did this to this poor creature. Just knowing this, makes me want to cry. And trust me, I already did.
Horribly sad. Thank God for that behaviorialist's volunteerism and ultimately Ivan's move.
Having been a visitor of the B&I many times as a youngster, I absolutely remember Ivan. They definitely did him a favor getting him out of there. It was way too small for him.
Side note: Did anyone else see the sign at the beginning of the video? Said The Rockers from the WWF were there? Can’t imagine Shawn Michaels at the B&I. LOL
I remember seeing him as a kid, he was always looking sad and just sat there
I hope there is heaven for Ivan,he deserves a place there.
He got it when the protests shut down the mall. Zoo Atlanta took him in and he had a very happy life there. Zoo Atlanta has a tribute video of him and he is happy.
Came here as soon as possible after I read The One and Only Ivan children novel, I’m still sobbing. Can’t wait to see the live-adaptation on Disney+.
This is honestly sad