Kimber is just class. Could listen to him all day long. Talks so much sense. I would love to see a deep dive into key themes in cricket with a crossover with him and the the grade cricketer podcast. mirth paired with insight.
Absolutely. If we had more people like him running the sport then we would see cricket thriving. I've long been in favor of getting rid of full membership or making it much easier for more countries to become full members so the sport can grow so I love when people like Jarrod put a spotlight on these issues because most others don't due to fear of losing out of opportunities.
Kimber is spot on. All I want to see with cricket is the growth of the international game and the game in general. For example i see my country wales as a part of this exclusion affecting growth of the sport. Wales, which has their own team in almost every other sport of note, does not have a proper mens national team, despite our players rarely ever coming into contention for the england team. The reason we do not have our own team because it is not in the interest of Glamorgan cricket and the ECB. Yet having a welsh national side alongside a county team would automatically give the game a team that would be of a similar level to scotland and ireland. Especially as foreign pros who have been at glamorgan for a long time could easily qualify. It seems like an open goal for the greater good of the game but in the short term money talks I guess, Glamorgan would rather get a payout from the ECB not to host test matches
Yeah, long term a Wales national team would be so cool. There could even be a quadrilateral series between all teams that comprise the UK and Northern Ireland. I'm also someone who just wants to see the sport grow and every time I see a full member face an associate member I'm rooting for the associate member because each win brings them closer to full membership and the more full members there are, the higher the competition and more opportunities for associates to face a full member.
@@rangergaming8316the very concept of 'full' and 'associate' member is dumb. Ireland got membership and don't show any inclination towards test matches now. Why shouldn't Netherlands, Scotland, Namibia be allowed to play too? Decades on from the 'Imperial Council' that mentality still remains now.
@@anweshchatterjee7595 I agree, I'm in favor of getting rid of that concept but in the short term I would be willing to take a compromise as long as more members are added as full members. As for why Ireland don't play much Test cricket, it's probably because it's very expensive to play Test matches and they won't attract enough fans to make a profit from it. That's where I have another issue. The fact that the BCCI gets to keep a massive chunk of the media right revenue is appalling because they don't need it. I'm someone who believes that every full member should take only a small fraction of the media right revenue and a big portion of it should be distributed equally among associates because they need it and a lot more money should be added to the Test cricket fund and give them to the lower full members to organize Test matches without worrying about going bankrupt.
@@rangergaming8316 see I agree with you but since I'm Indian I'm going to play devil's advocate and defend the bcci. They generate all the money because of us Indian cricket fans, and that's how icc and global cricket runs, to whatever extent. Sure we'd love a utopian world where everyone gets an equal share for global good, but practically why would an organisation share around the money that is largely generated from its market. As it is i believe they distribute more % than they generate. And yes test cricket is unfortunately not viable at all in the majority of places. It'll always have some tv viewership depending on the teams playing, but not enough to sustain the expenses. Heard Jarrod saying make a two division league structure with 14 or 16 teams, schedules managed by the icc as opposed to individual boards like they are now. Which sounds to me like the best possible suggestion. Unfortunately again, unlikely to happen.
@@anweshchatterjee7595 I'm also an Indian and I absolutely hate the BCCI. FIFA is known for a lot of shitty things but even they don't give countries their media rights revenue to countries like the ICC does. They instead have programs that distribute the revenue among countries for different reasons and most are to grow the sport so you don't see countries like England that generate such a lot of money complaining about not receiving most of FIFA's money. That's the other thing, this is the revenue from ICC's media rights deals and sure, most money comes from India and specifically India vs Pakistan matches but this is ICC's revenue and not the BCCI so to say just because India generates money it should also get most of that money back when other countries need it a lot more is stupid. The BCCI will remain a billion dollar organization that's at the top of the cricket world even if they take nothing from the ICC. I'm sure the sport of cricket would benefit a lot more from countries like Japan, Uganda, Oman, Scotland, Netherlands etc. being able to build a ton of pitches for practice with a few good enough to host international matches. I'm sure that would grow the sport a lot more than giving more money to the BCCI who will then give it to the executives who fill their pockets.
100% on this test status bs. Full member vs associate is, I think, for the moment fine so we keep quality up and avoud minnow bashing, but have a relegation system instead of a club of permanent big boys. Gives teams with real promise the chance to play in the big leagues and hone their game, adds pressure on underperforming sides like Bangladesh or Sri Lanka to get their act together- and by that i mean the boards as much as the players.
You can never prove match fixing just by watching a player drop a dolly catch, or bowl a horrendous delivery. Information has to come from the bookies, because a typical delivery or over will see hardly any bets placed - so it should ring huge alarm bells when stakes suddenly go massive on one ball or the next over. Thats the info which needs to be disclosed more.
Yeah, that's what he said in another video. It seems quite straightforward but unfortunately there's corruption in other ways that prevent match fixing from being rooted out as that would bring in bad press.
It's so satisfying to listen to Jarrod Kimbler. Talks sensible. Totally had me at Greatest achievement of cricket is still being successful after 150 years even though nobody with a brain ever ran it, haha.
Afghanistan not knowing that they have 3 extra balls to win a match and qualify in the Asia Cup has to be the worst thing about cricket. You can't have international teams not know / be communicated to all permutations and combinations of qualification. It's nonsense
The fact that they didn't bother checking in and see what their qualification scenarios were or that the umpires themselves didn't just go up to them and tell them what they required is insane. That match ending was the most pathetic thing I had ever seen because they seem dejected and thought their run was over without knowing they were still very much alive but they were throwing it away.
It was just blatant ignorance from Afg team!! We were all watching at home screaming at TV on what on earth is those guys doing?? Rashid should have known better!! How can he be so ignorant or irresponsible..
@@drprathamprakash1408 the player forgetting is understandable. Trott said it was never communicated by the match officials to them. That is not how an international sport should be conducted.
I hate gimmicks. Not interested in the 100 one bit. Don't watch IPL. Having a WC every 5mins dimishes the value and therefore the achievement of winning a world event. I love T20, but it's got to mean something... State v State, or County v County... Nothing better than A full house @Old Trafford for a Rose's battle. That said, as far as Test cricket goes, The Ashes should be played every 2nd summer in the UK and the same in Australia... The intensity/drama is electric.
Exclusion in cricket - the biggest league in the world openly discriminates against an international team and everyone just moves on as if that's normal and acceptable.
Worst thing about cricket, it's still very much at the mercy of the weather. It's 2024 and they still haven't figured out a way to continue playing in rainy weather. Another match was abandoned yesterday 😂
@@iananderson3799And I don't confine this idea to rain or rainy weather. I include other factors as well like dew and Duckworth Lewis which give an unfair advantage to the team batting second.
It is good that no one is incharge.. yes decisions will be slow but it will be sort of democratic... it will also not be easy to corrupt multiple bodies.
No one wants too China play test cricket, honestly Kimber. The exclusionary aspect of it is what keeps the traditions intact. Open it up to international influence and watch test cricket die IMO
Jarrod is completely wrong on the decision front, Centralisation will only serve to destroy the game.The Diversity that makes you feel awe is a product of localisation and not centrally orchestrated.
Here are my suggestions to make cricket more appealing. 1. Make ODIs into T20 Test matches. Where we have two innings of 20 overs per team. This would be very exciting to watch. 2. Introduce a "next ball" timer. Just how baseball has a pitch clock. The next ball has to bowled within the timer. If a batter delays it, it deducts runs. Period.
@chriswatson7965 Ah i think most Australian crickerers have been country/public school boys but in the UK i'm pretty sure a lot of players are from private schools.. I could be wrong.
@@Sauvage_Foxes I've got no idea about the UK, but in Australia cricket is played in all sorts of forms including backyard, corridor and beach cricket. Most local parks have a concrete strip laid down, and all schools would have a cricket field and some training facilities. Cricket in its more proper form is played between clubs, and school cricket is not really recognised. If you are intent about playing cricket at a high standard you do it through a community organised cricket club, not typically through a school. There are also cricket academies that specialise in training junior cricketers. These are not associated with the school system. Cricket is also not associated typically with the corporate box culture. The only popular sport that I can think of in Australia that is primarily associated with an elite school system is rugby union. Having said that playing cricket properly at a junior level has become expensive, and that has the practical effect of making a cricket career from an impoverished background now a near impossibility. Reasons for the increase in expense include club fees, insurance, and increase in the amount of and cost of equipment.
It's posh and prohibitively expensive at a youth level in most of England. When I played youth cricket maybe a decade back we had short seasons and maybe ~£60 for clothing £100+ for kit, and then £50+ for membership + match subs. Most parents would rather just send their kids to football for 1/10th of the price
Lloyd is such a misfit to this conversation..especially when you have Kimber on the other end! Ask Lloyd a question, he just rambles on and on..15mts later you still wonder what the fck is he taking about!
Kimber is just class. Could listen to him all day long. Talks so much sense. I would love to see a deep dive into key themes in cricket with a crossover with him and the the grade cricketer podcast. mirth paired with insight.
I think he already does,I think they're good chums.
Kimber’s thinking “boy do I have the podcast for you!”
Jarrod is taking exact sense as always. We need many more people like him in cricket to make it more organized to evolve for better
Absolutely. If we had more people like him running the sport then we would see cricket thriving. I've long been in favor of getting rid of full membership or making it much easier for more countries to become full members so the sport can grow so I love when people like Jarrod put a spotlight on these issues because most others don't due to fear of losing out of opportunities.
Kimber is spot on. All I want to see with cricket is the growth of the international game and the game in general. For example i see my country wales as a part of this exclusion affecting growth of the sport. Wales, which has their own team in almost every other sport of note, does not have a proper mens national team, despite our players rarely ever coming into contention for the england team. The reason we do not have our own team because it is not in the interest of Glamorgan cricket and the ECB. Yet having a welsh national side alongside a county team would automatically give the game a team that would be of a similar level to scotland and ireland. Especially as foreign pros who have been at glamorgan for a long time could easily qualify. It seems like an open goal for the greater good of the game but in the short term money talks I guess, Glamorgan would rather get a payout from the ECB not to host test matches
Yeah, long term a Wales national team would be so cool. There could even be a quadrilateral series between all teams that comprise the UK and Northern Ireland.
I'm also someone who just wants to see the sport grow and every time I see a full member face an associate member I'm rooting for the associate member because each win brings them closer to full membership and the more full members there are, the higher the competition and more opportunities for associates to face a full member.
@@rangergaming8316the very concept of 'full' and 'associate' member is dumb. Ireland got membership and don't show any inclination towards test matches now. Why shouldn't Netherlands, Scotland, Namibia be allowed to play too? Decades on from the 'Imperial Council' that mentality still remains now.
@@anweshchatterjee7595 I agree, I'm in favor of getting rid of that concept but in the short term I would be willing to take a compromise as long as more members are added as full members.
As for why Ireland don't play much Test cricket, it's probably because it's very expensive to play Test matches and they won't attract enough fans to make a profit from it.
That's where I have another issue. The fact that the BCCI gets to keep a massive chunk of the media right revenue is appalling because they don't need it. I'm someone who believes that every full member should take only a small fraction of the media right revenue and a big portion of it should be distributed equally among associates because they need it and a lot more money should be added to the Test cricket fund and give them to the lower full members to organize Test matches without worrying about going bankrupt.
@@rangergaming8316 see I agree with you but since I'm Indian I'm going to play devil's advocate and defend the bcci. They generate all the money because of us Indian cricket fans, and that's how icc and global cricket runs, to whatever extent. Sure we'd love a utopian world where everyone gets an equal share for global good, but practically why would an organisation share around the money that is largely generated from its market. As it is i believe they distribute more % than they generate.
And yes test cricket is unfortunately not viable at all in the majority of places. It'll always have some tv viewership depending on the teams playing, but not enough to sustain the expenses. Heard Jarrod saying make a two division league structure with 14 or 16 teams, schedules managed by the icc as opposed to individual boards like they are now. Which sounds to me like the best possible suggestion. Unfortunately again, unlikely to happen.
@@anweshchatterjee7595 I'm also an Indian and I absolutely hate the BCCI. FIFA is known for a lot of shitty things but even they don't give countries their media rights revenue to countries like the ICC does. They instead have programs that distribute the revenue among countries for different reasons and most are to grow the sport so you don't see countries like England that generate such a lot of money complaining about not receiving most of FIFA's money.
That's the other thing, this is the revenue from ICC's media rights deals and sure, most money comes from India and specifically India vs Pakistan matches but this is ICC's revenue and not the BCCI so to say just because India generates money it should also get most of that money back when other countries need it a lot more is stupid. The BCCI will remain a billion dollar organization that's at the top of the cricket world even if they take nothing from the ICC.
I'm sure the sport of cricket would benefit a lot more from countries like Japan, Uganda, Oman, Scotland, Netherlands etc. being able to build a ton of pitches for practice with a few good enough to host international matches. I'm sure that would grow the sport a lot more than giving more money to the BCCI who will then give it to the executives who fill their pockets.
Jarrod is just superb
Insightful !
Where can i watch the full episode?
Jarrod Kimber is a gift to cricket. What a man!
Agree with Jarrod, Cricket has no one in the driving seat and 1000 pound buffoon in the back seat.
This conversation is pure gold!
Jarrod's analysis is damn good
100% on this test status bs. Full member vs associate is, I think, for the moment fine so we keep quality up and avoud minnow bashing, but have a relegation system instead of a club of permanent big boys. Gives teams with real promise the chance to play in the big leagues and hone their game, adds pressure on underperforming sides like Bangladesh or Sri Lanka to get their act together- and by that i mean the boards as much as the players.
You can never prove match fixing just by watching a player drop a dolly catch, or bowl a horrendous delivery.
Information has to come from the bookies, because a typical delivery or over will see hardly any bets placed - so it should ring huge alarm bells when stakes suddenly go massive on one ball or the next over.
Thats the info which needs to be disclosed more.
Yeah, that's what he said in another video. It seems quite straightforward but unfortunately there's corruption in other ways that prevent match fixing from being rooted out as that would bring in bad press.
It's so satisfying to listen to Jarrod Kimbler. Talks sensible. Totally had me at Greatest achievement of cricket is still being successful after 150 years even though nobody with a brain ever ran it, haha.
Afghanistan not knowing that they have 3 extra balls to win a match and qualify in the Asia Cup has to be the worst thing about cricket.
You can't have international teams not know / be communicated to all permutations and combinations of qualification. It's nonsense
The fact that they didn't bother checking in and see what their qualification scenarios were or that the umpires themselves didn't just go up to them and tell them what they required is insane. That match ending was the most pathetic thing I had ever seen because they seem dejected and thought their run was over without knowing they were still very much alive but they were throwing it away.
When did that happen?
@@Deira854 it happened in last year's Asia Cup.
It was just blatant ignorance from Afg team!! We were all watching at home screaming at TV on what on earth is those guys doing?? Rashid should have known better!! How can he be so ignorant or irresponsible..
@@drprathamprakash1408 the player forgetting is understandable.
Trott said it was never communicated by the match officials to them. That is not how an international sport should be conducted.
I hate gimmicks. Not interested in the 100 one bit. Don't watch IPL. Having a WC every 5mins dimishes the value and therefore the achievement of winning a world event. I love T20, but it's got to mean something... State v State, or County v County... Nothing better than A full house @Old Trafford for a Rose's battle. That said, as far as Test cricket goes, The Ashes should be played every 2nd summer in the UK and the same in Australia... The intensity/drama is electric.
Wonderful conversation.
The thrill of cricket is the idea that you are going to spend a whole day with your mates
This conversation is ❤
So many Bet365 ads. We talk about leagues taking over but this betting scene is disgusting.
Subtlety and complexity that's
the main thing which is unique to cricket especially Test cricket ❤
Exclusion in cricket - the biggest league in the world openly discriminates against an international team and everyone just moves on as if that's normal and acceptable.
as an englishman I agree although it does go both ways. We need a test series between the two teams the global audience would be massive.
@@alexkeyes-hk6vpwhat goes both ways?
I assume you are speaking about IPL but CPL does not include any indians either.
@@osmsiddiqi_photo why does Pakistan want Indian money? Aren't we kafirs as per your pdf 'The holy Qurran"
@@angshumandas5779 nope. Next ignorant bhakt question?
There's massive corruption in the whole game, especially in junior cricket with coaches selecting the players who are paying them for 121 coaching.
There has to be limited test cricket teams to maintain the srandard though.
On the point.. 💯
Worst thing about cricket, it's still very much at the mercy of the weather. It's 2024 and they still haven't figured out a way to continue playing in rainy weather. Another match was abandoned yesterday 😂
They can. I recall watching a one day match at Lords played in a continuous drizzle, as both sides wanted a result.
@@iananderson3799So why wasn't this used during last year's Ashes, fourth test?
@gts8919 I have no idea. I did note both sides at Lords used only spin/slow bowling during the rain.
Perhaps this is not an option at test level?
@@iananderson3799Ok destroyer
@@iananderson3799And I don't confine this idea to rain or rainy weather. I include other factors as well like dew and Duckworth Lewis which give an unfair advantage to the team batting second.
This guy is brilliant. Cricket is run so badly. If it was run better it would be a much more supported sport
Pakistan 🇵🇰 Cricket Board Chairman is also the Interior Minister.
And ICC is not even bothered.
It is good that no one is incharge.. yes decisions will be slow but it will be sort of democratic... it will also not be easy to corrupt multiple bodies.
Superb by Kimber ❤
I used to think like jarrod and damn I was right the Diversity is what make cricket what it is
2 new balls in odi cricket is the worst thing
Oh this is just 🔥
Cricket is the best game in the world and still nothing as charming as test cricket: it’s calls to the past like no other game
The best thing about cricket is Australia.
Kimber is the cricketing oracle, love him ❤️
It is bowlers who slow the game down, not batsmen.
I hate the term Batter , its Batsman , its a modern term that i cringe at .
The future is now Oldman (oldie)
Jarrod is GOAT cricket analyst
No one wants too China play test cricket, honestly Kimber. The exclusionary aspect of it is what keeps the traditions intact. Open it up to international influence and watch test cricket die IMO
Jarrod is completely wrong on the decision front, Centralisation will only serve to destroy the game.The Diversity that makes you feel awe is a product of localisation and not centrally orchestrated.
BUMBLE’S RIGHT! WE NEED DICKY BIRD BACK!!!
Here are my suggestions to make cricket more appealing.
1. Make ODIs into T20 Test matches. Where we have two innings of 20 overs per team. This would be very exciting to watch.
2. Introduce a "next ball" timer. Just how baseball has a pitch clock. The next ball has to bowled within the timer. If a batter delays it, it deducts runs. Period.
Old Trafford! Emirates Old Trafford be assed!
So actually no one runs cricket 🤔
Baz ball ruining the game
Um no infact bazball style is very old. Remember the India vs England series 1990 and many other series.
Cricket has always been a posh sport.
Cricket has never been a posh sport in Australia. Very much the working man's game.
Depends where you are from.
@chriswatson7965 Ah i think most Australian crickerers have been country/public school boys but in the UK i'm pretty sure a lot of players are from private schools.. I could be wrong.
@@Sauvage_Foxes I've got no idea about the UK, but in Australia cricket is played in all sorts of forms including backyard, corridor and beach cricket. Most local parks have a concrete strip laid down, and all schools would have a cricket field and some training facilities. Cricket in its more proper form is played between clubs, and school cricket is not really recognised. If you are intent about playing cricket at a high standard you do it through a community organised cricket club, not typically through a school. There are also cricket academies that specialise in training junior cricketers. These are not associated with the school system. Cricket is also not associated typically with the corporate box culture. The only popular sport that I can think of in Australia that is primarily associated with an elite school system is rugby union.
Having said that playing cricket properly at a junior level has become expensive, and that has the practical effect of making a cricket career from an impoverished background now a near impossibility. Reasons for the increase in expense include club fees, insurance, and increase in the amount of and cost of equipment.
It's posh and prohibitively expensive at a youth level in most of England. When I played youth cricket maybe a decade back we had short seasons and maybe ~£60 for clothing £100+ for kit, and then £50+ for membership + match subs. Most parents would rather just send their kids to football for 1/10th of the price
Lloyd is such a misfit to this conversation..especially when you have Kimber on the other end! Ask Lloyd a question, he just rambles on and on..15mts later you still wonder what the fck is he taking about!
Too much of cricket. Every year we have a WC now?
People who run cricket are killing cricket. Its a dying sport. Test cricket is BORING!!!!! its for dinasours.
T10 us the future...
@@tarakvaakil8553stay off crack
let's just play F5s & get on with it. why bother about the bowlers at all
??? What?
Test cricket is the best form by far