'It doesn't belong here': Portland water filtration plant project hits resistance, rising costs
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2023
- On a looming deadline, the Portland Water Bureau is trying to build a filtration plant in east Multnomah County. The plant was estimated in 2017 to cost between $350 and $500 million. Today, that cost has jumped to more than $1.8 billion.
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People like this is why we cant advance our infrastructure in this country. raising the cost on taxpayers because they don't want construction to happen but I bet they will be horrifically mad if they don't have running water either.
People who think like you are often responsible for the destruction of the environment we live here for.
Yeah the homeowner are babies. Its basically I want this way so no one can have clean water. Losers
@@mateovncnt7411 5 will get you 10 the homeowners have well water, time for Portland to put there plants in side the city.
@@edwardackley8707Will the NIMBYs pay the real estate costs and the power costs for active pumping?
@@gregorymalchuk272 Why should they have to? They ate probably on well water, not part of the water system.
Now these people certainly feel entitled. “I don’t want noise while it’s constructed and I don’t want to see a couple green towers” OMG
Sorry, but we all Need WATER . . . . better a Water Plant, than a Homeless Camp . . . . Life goes on!
Is this more not in my back yard rhetoric? I'm so sick of NIMBY people wanting services but not willing to deal with the construction in their neighborhoods of the facilities that provide those services. Every year the water projects get delayed and every year the cost goes up but they don't want the facility where they can see and hear it, (Big Sigh) they want it where the poor folks live same as back in the 1920s... And then they complain about the poor folk out on the streets because the houses the poor used to live in have all been demolished and the fields are vacant because it costs too much to build homes with the NIMBY tax money and the NIMBYs don't want the poor to suceed and maybe become rich and buy a house in their neighborhood.
So the rich lady wants us to bulldoze 50 acres of houses in the city and then pump water uphill so she can listen to birds?
And then pay even more to install all those pumps to Portland
Seriously this is the most NIMBY s*** I've heard in my life. And the argument amounts to "it might be loud here for a little while". Anywhere they want to build it, the people will say "it doesn't belong here", like everything else...
They bought the land, knowing it borders city-owned property, and they believe the city should let them decide what to do with the public land…
If they follow the route of Atlanta in draggin ass in doing necessary upgrades to the water and sewer system, next thing you know it'll be fined $10,000/day til the project is done. Before I moved away, there was a year when the water bills went up 45%. In one year. I don't think they ever normalized or came down after construction was completed. And all this was going on during the late-aughts economic meltdown.
The bigger story here is the bidding process for construction, the blank check the builders view as the city, and our obligation as citizens to hold the city accountable as it pertains to financial stewardship.
So how much more would it cost if the pumps needs to b added?
Build now! It will only get more expensive in the future.
If they don’t own the property you don’t get to decide what they do here. The needs of the many supersede the NIMBY attitude of these few locals. No one is telling THEM what do on THEIR property.
Sorry. Stopping this essential regional project for someone's admitted "hobby farm" would be absurd.
Everyone wants the public works but no one wants them next door.
They should have gained more political power money before buying a place out there.
Must be a VIP to be a NIMBY, I guess.
Or checked who owned the neighboring lands to their property before they bought it. I don't feel bad for them failing to do their due diligence.
Sorry, but Karen and Kevin's peace & quite take a backseat to millions of Oregonians that need clean drinking water
What gives you the right to invade their property rights? They live outside the urban growth boundary, so they do not get most of the services our taxes pay for. And they most likely are not part of the water system.
@@juresichjeminent domain is a thing. Forcing the sale of property so that the needs of the many can be met.
@@juresichj Maybe they should have checked who owned the land near their property. The city has owned that land for a long time as a forward planning for a project such as this. The city (and therefore the public served by the city) are exercising their right to use that land now.
So an annual 8 % increase for 5 years means that our already
very high water bill will increase by
40 %.
Extremely ironic considering the Pacific Northwest is an extremely wet climate. But democrats do love their artificial enforced scarcity.
Wouldn't it be more? Each year, the increase grows, because the base amount has increased from the previous year.
@@juresichj
Of course, due to compounding .
Say maybe 45 to 50 percent higher bill..
@@gregorymalchuk272
It's all about agreeing with whatever the
EPA wants. Rather than having the guts to say enough is enough.
Our rates already skyrocketed due to the previous sewer project. Now they will skyrocket again..
Water bill will be higher than electric bill..
@@gregorymalchuk272 because the pnw is wet is why the water bill is high... the highest cost on the bill is wastewater treatment. storm runoff is the largest factor in that. the rates for actual water consumption is low.
A 40% hike in our already high water utility bill is absolutely insane!... 🤯
the entire bill wont go up, jus portion that calculates water usage volume and sewer volume, which is about 35% of the total bill
The bills will only get higher if this project isn't done.
Just fix and re-open Mt. Tabor, assuming Portland hasn't already done that since I left that area. Come on now... What was good enough for me and my family is good enough for everyone else too. Put that money where it belongs: giving the homeless actual houses to live in.
Hello Pat, don't be concerned about the skyrocketing costs. Look how much they spent to build the jail facility that was never occupied. Seems to me they blew 150 million on engineering for the new I5 bridge. Before they figured out the design was to low to allow international river traffic and cancelled it. At a certain point, the graft and corruption is so blatant you just move away. How's the manufactured "homeless emergency" working out for the taxpayers?
Reverse Osmosis Treatment is the only way. All the people complaining about the water need there water turned off that way they know what it will be like WOITHOUT THE PLANT!
Out they they have their own wells. They don't run on city water
definition of an "environmentalist"...
they already have their house in the woods and don't any one else.
Follow the money. Water is a cash cow in the North West.
Why should they have it out there? They're not on portland water. It's already overpriced and under planned.
Portland already pays an incredibly high price for water. When I moved here 17 years ago, water cost me five times what I paid in my previous state, and at my old home I had 6 people and a 16x32' inground pool. Here we only had 3 people, and we didn't even water a garden. Do the people who live in the potential construction area even use Bull Run water, or do they have wells? Taking the landowners peaceful enjoyment of their property, perhaps for no benefit to them, and without compensation, seems really un-American to me.
Ironic considering the wet climate of the Pacific Northwest. But democrats absolutely LOVE their artificial enforced scarcity.
@@gregorymalchuk272 That isn't the issue. Water rates here are the result of out of control spending by the water department. There have been court cases about it.
1:37 That picture looks scary!! I'm afraid to drink water now.
Why not? Clean water tech is expensive and necessary. You want modern conveniences you must buy them. That’s how it works. Live in a swamp instead of you want. 🙄
@@PsyRen_Pelorum not yet
Stand together buy the land divide it among yourselves force them to go somewhere else or they are going to use the loop hole about disruption during construction and eat the law suits that follow pushing it through anyway.
Oh you liberals, nimbyism. I remember when they didn't want a walmart in Gresham. It happened anyway.
Nothing turns a "progressive" into a conservative faster than having a major project proposed near their home.
If they proceed with the project, the city or county should relieve the homeowners affected of their property taxes for 5 years.
Californication.
Where did this pathogen come from? Seems mighty suspicious to me. We need to find the source.
Probably migration of animals brought new pathogens. Or hikers having their BM in the woods. Don't know but maybe these pathogens were asleep in the glacier and global warming has released them.
All i can say is, this really has to suk, for people who move to live somewhere - expecting to be enjoying a certain type of environment, & then just like that - oops, sorry, its ALL going to be changed dramatically & there's nuttin U can do to stop it!
daaawwww, that life of privilage with their "serene" "hobby farm" disrupted so peasants can have safe drinking water... Let them cake!
Portland water filtration plant for the city of Portland needs to be inside the city of Portland.
Would the same argument be used for where dams are built?
should our water source be inside the city of portland as well? So should gresham, sandy, troutdale, etc, all the other neighboring cities on the same circuit provide their own water filtration?