How FAT should a Ryzen 7700x cooler be? ❄️ - 7700x Cooling
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- After we had a look at the new AMD Ryzen 7700x's performance, we will continue by finding out how much cooling it needs and how much money we actually need to spend.
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00:00 Introduction
05:00 Cooler Testing
#amd #ryzen7000 #ryzen7700x #7700x #cooling - Наука та технологія
Your content is spot on. And always of exceptional quality. Thank you !!!
Love to hear that! Glad you enjoyed it!
@@STSYT
Seriously! I love your content! Very practical in nature. And delivered in neither too much detail nor too little.
Oh, and I must say that your sense of humor makes watching your videos very enjoyable as well!!
Kindest regards :D
I really appreciate the effort and time you put into these videos. Thank you for producing this high quality deep dive into the 7700x!
Great video! Many thanks!
great content, great accent. love it
I know you haven’t covered this one. But will the Frost Spirit 140 be ok with this cpu?
Can the "be quiet Pure Loop 2 FX 240" handle the 7700X? (for gaming)
I assumed that the more wattage the clocks would go higher, like an overclock based on your cooling solution. But it's only higher wattage and not higher clocks? wtf !?
do you think the nzxt kraken x63 is compatible with the amd ryzen?
Bro graph shows 3900x can u please tell how the arctic 360mm argb will perform with the 7700x 🙏
I bought a cooler master 360 Atmos, if i run cinebench r23 its hit 96 C on cpu x 89 C. what could i do ?
Thanks for the vid but my buddies are clowning on the 3900x typo in the chart lol
I just power limited mine and also applied a -30 on curve optimizer, 5.3 all core around 85w and 65c
wow, sounds like an amazing sample. with -30 curve mine is pulling 100w at 78°C
What settings are you using?@@elu5ive
I am glad to see that a cooler I already own, the be quiet dark rock TF2, is in the green section. This is a good thing.
I just got a 7700x, I got the ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 and I am paranoid that it will not be sufficient, can anyone tell me if this will work?
Good video. Keep up.
is running the Nocuta NH-U12A with the 7700x okay for gaming? the D15 does not fit my case and im not going water/aio. any suggestion for a max 160mm height cooler that works with this beast?
Having the same problem, not enough room for noctua, gonna upgrade my case so I can throw in a 280 or 360 aio
It will be good a deepcool ak500 for my 770x?
Do you think a Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360 ILLUSION ARGB 360 mm Intel(1700p)-AMD or a Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240 ILLUSION ARGB White Edition 240 mm Intel(1700p)-AMD is enough to cool down Ryzen 7 7700X to 70C or lower? Please someone help. (edit: it would be better if the cooler kept the CPU under 65 degrees)
Just finished building my first pc with a 7700x and idle is 42 and HEAVY GAMING SESSIONS barely get over 70°C, my current case setup is NZXT H5 Elite with 2 140mm and a 120mm toliet fan for intake and 4 120mm fans for exhaust 1 at the rear of the case 3 on top exhausting upward I have no issues so far
Just picked up a d15 for my groundup 7700x rebuild fron my old 4670k. I'm glad to see it will work as expected.
Hey I'm currently thinking about buying the noctua nh-d15 too, are u still happy with it?
@@grankh4418 owner of 7700x and noctua nh-d15 here, idle temps 55-60c and 75c when gaming or browsing youtube
@@XASMATV.55 Idek 😮😮😮😮 that's too hot
with some fixes i have idle 43c temp now@@3lcost3
I'm seriously considering going AM5 for my next build, and was thinking about picking up this processor with a Dark Rock 4 Pro. All I'm mostly going to be doing on this new machine is gaming, as I've got another machine running a 3200g for media stuff. It's good to see the Dark Rock 4 Pro is able to cool this thing, 'cause I really don't want to go liquid AIO.
I did the same mistake last year with the same cpu and cooler and believe me you better get AIO cooler for this cpu otherweise you won‘t be happy with the temperatures. I changed to arctic liquid freezer II 360mm afterwards fyi just in case if you didn‘t went for it already.. i think any 360mm AIO would do the job.
my 7700x uses 145w @ 5.71 ghz
PBO enabled + DOCP 6100cl30 fclk 2100
bclk 0 1.3
bclk 1 1.0
280mm rad
idk if this is useful to anyone, but here it is. This is where I got my best results since AMD release agesa 1.003 and tehy limited the all core boost
I have a Ryzen 7700X, and I'm using Cooler Master Hyper 212 (air cooling), and it's pretty manageable...most prolonged gaming sessions don't go above 70°c
did you undervolt your cpu? I can't see it being that low without it
@@holycarcas8069 no I didn't. Actually it does go to 80° when I'm playing an intensive game for a long while!....But maybe the quality of my case and fans help, as well as the room temp!
@@TooToo246 Well that makes more sense. Ryzen 7000 gets real hot. 13th gen 13700k that i have is still hotter tbh. With a 360mm aio it still goes to 60 in a prolonged gaming session after I undervolted the cpu by .05V .
@@holycarcas8069 my 7700x shoots up to 80 Celsius while surfing youtube sometimes. Is this normal?
@@TooToo246 bs, cap
First of alI STS, thank you for this important and interesting content! Some things are not very clear for me. For example, when im working in Fusion 360, this algorithm will not try to reach 95 degrees I assume? Only under an more heavy workloads?
Let’s say this is correct. And I’ll compare intels 13th gen to amds 7000 serie. Both have the power limit to their max advised ppt. Than how will this 95C target from amd let the processor behave different compared to an intel processor? I mean, both processors are getting hot under heavy load. Probably intels processors even hotter because the higher tdp.
I’ve 0 experience in practice. I’m about to order hardware for my first pc build. This pc has to be as quite as possible with enough power for cad/cam software and cnc controlling software. Intel 13th gen or amd 7000 serie is my struggle right now.
So my nh-u12a should be okay?🙏
So buy deepcool AK620 with Thermal Grizzly kryonaut and change the fan into Noctua. should be enough. Thank You so much for the information.
STS we need a Light wings+SL V1+SL V2+SL infinity comparison please.
Do you recomend it with a corsair hydro series H100x rgb elite
yo, first off, thanks for the vid 😎
what i actually wrote the comment for: ur accent sounds a bit german ..or dutch?
AMD is absolute genius. They actually made a chip that can cater to different people. Those who like to leave their PC alone and just play some games can know that the CPU is overclocking itself best it can without overheating on ANY cooler. And the people who like to mess with things (me) get to tweak out over temps and voltages for the next couple months trying to maximize performance output. Personally I've found a mild undervolt of 1.20, disable all pbo and turbo boost, and 52.50 mult give me slightly higher cinebench score _and_ 30 degrees cooler than stock (AK620 air cooler)
Yeah, though they need to find a way so that these chips do not ramp up regular coolers to lift-off
Yeah I love it.. my AIO keeps it at under 60'C while clocking at 6.2Ghz on all 8 cores. Averages at 35-50 on most games.
@@SASenglish😂😂😂6.2?
thats some massive testing bro good job 👍👍
I’m building my first pc, will the be quiet! pure rock 2 fx be good for a 7700x with 6950xt? I’m getting the be quiet! pure base 500fx case which has good airflow, and I’d really like to get the matching cooler if I can 🤞
Yeah, should work fine, but so yourself the favor and play with the curve. No need to dump extra heat if it doesn’t give you more performance
I"m running on a Noctua NH-C14S with a Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-2000 PWM, Heavy Duty Cooling Fan. 7700x set to 1.23v at 5.3 ghz across all 8 cores/16 threads. It stays plenty cool running handbrake. I ran the stress test on CPU-Z on 16 threads. At the temperature sensor of the air leaving my case it was reading 26.7 celcius. CPU was 76 C and running at 86 watts.
Is tuning the cpu down a pretty normal and easy thing to do? I am looking at buying the 7700x also but it seems there is a waste of power and created excess heat that I would not want to deal with.
@@jobsearch5871 It's pretty easy. I have the Asrock X670e Taichi and in their utility I tuned down the voltage first to 1.20 volts and increased the "set" cpu speed 100 Mhz at a time until it crashed and rebooted. I then pushed up the cpu voltage closer to stock .01 volts at a time. Went back and forth for a while until I landed on 1.23v running at 5.3 Ghz. Stock it will boost 1 core up to 5.4 but running alot more voltage and heat. I ran it a while in windows using just the utility until I determined it was stable. Then I went into the bios and set it there to 5300 Mhz and 1.23v. It runs smooth and cooler than stock. Each run of the silicon from the manufacturer may run a little different.
@@RotorBrake Ok, thanks for your help . I beleive I am going to go with this cpu
So your CPU at idle sits at that frequency?
I have order a 7700x cpu a Am5 MSI AM5 Carbon mobo with 32 Gb ram ddr5 a 850Watt be quiet psu and a gpu 6950 Asus. For cooling the cpu I ordered the dark rock 4 be quiet. I m waiting for my new pc build and I really have angst when I see this video. I hope I have the ability with this mobo to reduce the cpu max temp by underclocking the cpu or reduce the voltage or something like that
I have 55 on idle and 92 on benchmark, with a z53 kraken and a 4000x corsair white, it's that good?
Yeah kinda. A few years it would have been horrible, but now it's okay.
i couldnt stand the fan noise needed to for the 7700x.... had to go io immediately after purchase.
can you do intel 13th gen i7 and i9 preferably
NH-D15S cooler on my 7700X. When i first ran cinebench 2024 and it shot up to 95-96 degrees i thought there was something wrong. Turns out the 7700X is just tuned to max out temp no matter what and AMD said it will operate just fine for a long lifespan at these temps, which i Don't trust. So i set a quick and dirty PBO of 80 level 2 and now temps Don't go above 85 and still have decent performance. I should benchmark again and check clocks and cinebench scores without and with PBO
Where DEEPCOOL LS520 and LS720???
Dude you should update the graph subtitle, still on the r9 3900x.
The graph shouldn’t be taken as an exact value.
Like every other Ryzen 7000 cooling video, we used our usual benchmark table (done on a 3900x) removed the numbers and used them as reference points.
None of the graphs are accurate, they are references in order to know how high the cooler should be on the scale to be ‘ok’
@@STSYT alright I’ll keep that in mind for future videos. Just throws me off a bit initially seeing it.
@@ishraqmirza2724 no future videos about this one 😅 7700x was the last Ryzen 7000 cooling videos.
Regular CPU cooler benchmarks will continue to be with accurate numbers
is use the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 with my 7700X with kryonaut and i stay chilly
Ryzen 7700x tops out at 130 to 140 watts, so a big air-cooler from Arctic Cooling or Noctua ought to work fine.
7700x is a little more complicated than that because of the location of the silicon under the IHS. I have a 360mm AIO and still sit at around 70°C when gaming modern titles. GPU is an MSI 6950xt, in a Xidax leviathan 9 fan case
@@encompassthyeclipse7278 7700x can run safely at up to 95 C, according to AMD.
A 7700x processor doesn't need a liquid cooler, not at all. A nice 120mm tower air cooler works fine. Air cooler is more reliable, and cheaper too. A Win-win situation.
@@DerekDavis213 PC noob here. Im watching a lot of youtube videos regarding the right compatibility and parts and i seem to have a good idea what im building. What dsnt make sense to me is when youtubers and community comments talks about rpms and temperatures. As a newcomer to pc building and gaming. How would i know how to control fan speeds? When to control fan speeds? or do i even bother with all that and let the system run on stock settings. Thanks again.
Note: im also building with an AM5 7700x chip, with Noctua U12 in NR200. Not P.
@@bollean Have you already purchased the 7700x cpu and Noctua cooler, or are you planning on those parts?
In general, the bios will automatically ramp up the fan rpm as the processor runs hotter. Sometimes you want to manually make the fan spin up faster, which will slightly improve the processor's performance, at the cost of a bit more fan noise. There are options in the bios for this: Fan Tuning for example.
Ryzen 7700x (and 7900x 7950x too) are a bit different than other processors, in that the processor is designed to run at 95 degrees Celsius. In the past, 95 degrees might be worrisome, but not with the AMD Zen 4 chips.
I still think the 95c target is a very stupid idea from AMD.
Why. It doesn’t make it more difficult to cool
@@Lachlan_McDougall it does. These CPU’s increase power consumption until they reach 95c regardless if the performance increases or not. It makes the fan in the pc spin up to 100%.
It doesn't affect anything other than perception
@@revelae nope, totally wrong.
Good counter argument bro
Now we need a noise normalized test I guess
Each independent cooler review has his own noise-to-performance graph on a 3900x. Though those would be translatable to create a somewhat accurate estimation
I'm running 7700X with Dark Rock 4 and it always goes to 95C+ in cinebench at around 5200-5300.
What temps in games, thx.
Seems normal ^^ that thing will go as high as it can
1:00 You seem to think that the AMD specified TDP is what the CPU is rated to run at. That is not the case. AMD's TDP has nothing to do with how much power the CPU is supposed to consume. It is simply a marketing number that has very little to do with reality. Gamers Nexus has a video and an article on this subject where how AMD basically comes up with the TDP number first for marketing reasons and then comes up with a reverse engineered formula to derive it. TDP is a marketing term, plain and simple, and one should avoid confusing or using it interchangeably with power limits or power consumption.
I know, I know, TDP is a wish at best. That’s what these videos are for. Just push everything and find out what cooler can handle it. We’re refereeing to TDP a bunch of times, but it’s more like a joke for us :)
I have a decent, but not stellar AIO. The Corsair H100i. Just for S&G's I used the Gigabyte overclocking utility and my 7600X went to 5.92Ghz almost immediately pulling 180 watts for the CPU alone. Messing with fan speeds and allowing slightly higher chipset voltage I hit 6.02Ghz. temps were 95 degrees and fans were at 100% the whole time.
I put it back to stock straight after. But - I mean wow. I got a chip to 6Ghz on a mid end AOI with barely 10 minutes fiddling in Gigabyte utility and BIOS.
I won't be doing it again though. It was a little bit scary...
Also I will be trading this in for the 2023/2024 X3D 800 class chip if one becomes availing in 18 months time.
Same here on my 7700X, all cores @5.6GHz and would single core spike random cores to 5.8-6.2GHz but the 1.56V highs kind of turned me off that OC. My plan is the same too, 2024-2025 upgrading to the ##00X3D then I should be good tell 2030
That CPU is so good ,that I'm using it on eco mode. Insane performance n around 70C on high CPU gaming usage. 38-45 stand by. Artic 51 dual.
@@PinkPuddinClipsyou have the 7600x? I got the 7700x and having some doubts (I haven't actually used it yet) that it's worth it. I'm not sure if I'm overestimating the 2 extra cores or if the 7600x will be perfectly good for gaming/streaming and some mild content creation
@@B-ROYalty I would rather to get 7800x3D cause it's drops prices n u got Startfield.
@@PinkPuddinClips trust me I'd love to! but unfortunately I need to go the opposite direction in terms of price. Currently Best Buy has a bundle 7600x + b650 Aorus elite AX mobo for $289, which sounds like an absolute steal if that CPU is good enough. If not, I'll still probably downgrade from 7700x to the 7700 non X. Probly sometime down the road upgrade to something good like one of the x3D varients
My dark rock pro 4 couldn’t keep it under 95° would go straight to 95° and I checked wattage and it was sitting around 130 watts :( wonder what’s going wrong maybe it’s my ambient temp
Hi, any luck with that? My 7700x has just overheated and powered off. I was considering switching to the dark rock pro 4 but now I've just read your comment. What have you decided in the end? Thanks in advance!
For everyone in the future: I ended up buying a Jonsbo cr-2000gt at a quite good price. I also played a bit with the core's voltages and got good results. I'm happy with the fan! At first there were still some issues, but it turned out to be that I hadn't seated the fan properly and got some thermal paste mess. I recommend manually spreading the paste on the cpu and placing the fan's clips with pliers (avoid moving it as much as possible once seated). I have average temps of 30ºC - 40ºC and 60ºC - 75ºC under stress!
Also thinking of getting the dark rock 4 pro. Were you able to solve your issue?
Got a Sub out of me today, thank you for the information.
Misleading ... Ryzen 7000 series is designed to be thermal limited not power limited. Whatever the cooling solution you have, there's always a setting to let the CPU run at 95 degree. No cooling solution is good enough. Don't mislead. In other words, FAT enough doesn't exist.
Missing some top coolers on here but good info
Glad you found it helpful
The list is getting longer over time, at some point it may even be complete
wtfx r9 3900x? mislabeled chart?
Because it’s the 3900x cooler benchmark chart.
We just used it for reference. Therefore, no exact numbers on the charts. It’s just to see how high you need to be to make it work.
I don't see Deepcool LS720 in this list
Trying to get our hands on it!
So that gives me confidence in chosing a non-X variant of those new AMDs
Easier to cool for sure
What's the difference between the 2 models?
Higher clock speed and power consumption. This doesn’t matter anyway people undervolting them so non-x is a way to go
i only saw 3900x results? where was 7700x ?
The list is a reference.
We use it to split the list into ok- and not okay.
No exact math here, just a few random tests and eyeballing
So does that mean the 7700x is not that great? I am looking to buy this.
He is really a good processor, in my opinion Intel 13th and AMD 7000 are both really great your choice between those two will depend if your already have a motherboard of the Intel 12th or not, if you don't have a 12th mother board and you want durability if think AMD is a better choice, cause the AM5 mother you can buy now will continue to receive processor for about 4 next processors. (That's what AMD says, and looking at the AM4 platform I think this is reliable), and finally your choice will also depend if you find one in promotion or not, both are really really good processor.
@@alcatrosWhat cooler do you have? I’m building my first pc with 7700x and 6950xt, and I’m having a hard time deciding what cooler to get 😅
Dont see what peoples problem is with this chip.. i average at 48'C during games like horizon ect while using 360mm AIO cooler. During other games at 6.2Ghz per core it hits 57'C... using air cooling on a chip this powerful is stupid anyway.
AIO cooler is also only running at 30-60% speed.
Where legendary AK 620? 🤔🤨
Still waiting on the to-do list
@@STSYT Where DEEPCOOL LS520 and LS720???
What ?? No Lian Li Gallahad 360 ???
we didn't have it at that moment. But you can have a look at our recent review on the Gallahad
I take issue with the video title. All coolers are beautiful, regardless if their size. Now, say sorry >=(.
+1
It SHOULD be fat enough to cool a VASTLY superior 13700k :)
The 13700k doesn't even beat the 7700x in gaming. It eats significantly more power and also hits 100c on all core 😂
Only in productivity. Gaming it's about the same fps wise.
@@xyr3s ONLY ,,,, just face FACTS ,, 13th Gen Intel has DESTROYED AMD