Supermatics are amazing so far. Ripped some powder the last couple of days and didn’t have issues with snow getting in them. Once you figure out how to stomp your foot in, these bindings are a game changer.
I got these bindings this year (because I'm getting older). As bindings they are quit good (good flex). The step in takes a lot of practice to master. I have had the mechanism get snowed in, but only in a big pow day. Huge benefit is that I feel much less tired at the end of the day using these binding. The bindings are also way heavier that normal bindings, but they feel great riding. I recommend for fellow old man snowboarders.
Love the content! I have never used any step-on or step-in bindings, so you can take my view with a grain of salt. But I like the concept of being able to use the Supermatics just like a traditional binding if you want to or the conditions dictate - like steeper terrain or deeper snow. And then when you just get off a chairlift, you can step straight in & off you go. It looks like the best of both worlds.
In powder its definitely more worth it to use this binding as a traditional binding, The step in function for me at least being on the east coast with hills instead of mountains and ice instead of snow was to make it so i was actually enjoying my day of riding instead of spending the majority of it doing up the bindings and riding the incredibly slow chair lifts. On groomers you will immediately notice how good they really are as binding and if there are any cons, you will find them pretty quickly
I have them, the only criticism they may have is that the front of the snow boots tends to wear you out, specifically the one that you tend to wear the most, otherwise they are super safe, super comfortable, the weight is very little difference, and in the The part that you said did not work where there was a lot of snow, in that area you can use the hybrid binding option, and they work very well. and the proof is that in rare situations where practically no binding works well if you compare them with the competition, in those situations believe it works much worse than those of the competition since some of its competition security binding can really fail, where security, which is the most important thing, is at stake and without forgetting that they give you the advantage of using it hybrid, it works very well for you as if it were a regular one, and without losing security, detail to take into account
Ive been using supermatics all season and I’ve found that if you make sure your pants don’t get under your top strap they lock in much easier. They take a bit of figuring out but they make your day on the mountain so much easier.
I rip on supermatics in the park and in pow. I think the folks who don't get along with step-ins have just simply been snowboarding longer then I have on traditional bindings and are a bit stuck in their way. The dope thing about supermatics is if you find yourself stuck in some real deep snow, you just simply sit on your ass and strap in like you would any traditional binding. So in that 5% situation there is a solution and the other 95% of the time you just step-in and roll out. So you're not losing anything at all and simply gaining time on the slopes 95% of the time, the other 5% you strap in just as fast as the next guy. I love these things.
Clew Freedom 1.0's would be a better comparison when compared to the supermatic. They are closer in weight since they are both a little over 2 pounds and are universal to any boot type.
Not really, you're comparing to traditional bindings which is what most people are looking from. For the most, these systems are not a necessity, more of a feature/luxury.
@@JLneonhug why would you even compare with traditional bindings, they obviously offer the best performance of you. These are just some bindings that offer a pretty good performance and mainly for casual riding
In such deep snow conditions these bindings needs to be used just as regular bindings, which is a plus for Supermatics. Vendor's quote: " If the slope or snow conditions demand it, you can even strap in just like a regular binding."
Use them, and I love them. Yes it's challenging in deeper snow, but not more than traditional - when very deep just strap traditionally - it work for them perfectly.
I own these. One thing I noticed is if you like your high backs a bit forward, you'll have some resistance locking in. I rock my foot side to side and have no issues! We don't normally get powder days where I am but these are much faster for resort riding. I set them to the angles I was using for my union forces and they felt right at home. I like to set the straps each time I go out (my preference), and I'm good for the day.
if u loosen the "middle" strap more, u get better in and out! i ride them since october, and had the problem with it. but when u loose the strap more u have more fun!
I think your missing the point of the supermatics, which is that you have the option to step in or strap in. In deep powder, you should treat them like regular bindings and use the straps instead of stepping in
I think you might not have been fully clicked in on the step ons. I tried the step ons today and they were really nice! I would have gotten the supermatics but they are sold out EVERYWHERE!
I’ve ditched my Flow NX2s I’ve been using for years for Supermatics last winter. I just can’t trust the small holding brackets of Step-Ons on the front of the boots. The release mechanism of Supermatics seems foolproof and very secure and I also like the third diagonal strap on the boot. People stop me all the time on tops of mountains asking me what the hell are these bindings. Thanks!
This is good to know looking ahead to my trip. Brian Head got nice and powdery the last time I was there, so now I know what to expect. It's always great watching your videos...thanks.
Yeah you will definitely understand the full potential if you use the step in on groomers and normal days and the traditional system on the powder days, best bindings ever. Just waiting for the XL version to be finally released to enjoy the full comfort!!!
Just curious, what's your boot size? I'm thinking of getting some of these for the next season...I'm 11/12 depending on the boot brand, comfort, etc...and the Nidecker size guide says Large is for 8-11, and XL 11-13. I wonder if I should get an L or XL pair.
@@farawayskies I've already bought them! Went for a Large(upper limit) and it fits perfect. The thing is that I've had this issue in the past, when you are on the edge of two chart sizes, for some brands is better to go upwards and on others is better to be on the limit of the lower size. As I haven't use specifically any Nidecker ones before this purchase, I wasn't actually sure.
I've never understood why rear entry bindings (high backs that fold back nearly flat) aren't more popular. They've been out for a long time and work well and fast. Being able to put your foot into the bindings without unstrapping and then just snapping the high backs into their upright position is the best idea and I'd so almost faster and more reliable that burton stop ons.
Time spent on the lift + sometimes getting stuck in powder. It is a lot of time that you are spending not riding. So that time that the binding is supposed to save you doesn't matter at all.
All the cons are mitigated by the fact these binding are 2-strap AND traditional all in one. Nidecker themselves say one of their core features is that when it's too steep or too deep that you simply treat them like a 2-strap.
I have used them for a week now and they work fine but some of the problems Kevin encountered have to do with the setup of the bindings. The middle strap has to set up lose and If you don’t overcrank the ratcheds you will be fine in most conditions. The stepping in process is just a thing wich takes a little bit of time to get used to. But when you have found your balance and routine the fun begins. Sometimes you will step on the strap or don’t get in as fluently as wished for but most of the time it goes well. The best thing is to insert the front of your boot calm and when that goes right you push your heel firmly to the bottem of the binding and your off to go. Sometimes I noticed that during the day you you don’t get in as fluently as you did before and after redoing the straps the problem was gone. Just like the other systems it has its pro’s and cons but for most people it be a good binding. The quality of the product is good and solid. If you want to see a verry good review check the one that Malcom More made about these bindings.
I bought a pair the other day. The main reason i bought them is because I’m getting older, 46 and I’m A bigger guy. I weight 272 and stand 6’3”. Being a bigger guy it is becoming difficult task to bend over and strap my board on, but i still have many good years of. Boarding left in me and don’t want to quit boarding so my option was to buy the step ins, & i consented a system where i could use any boot. I was at home fooling around with the binding system stepping in and out and what not and the only thing i didn’t really like was that after i was strapped in i like my bindings tight. The tighter you make the straps the harder it is to pull the boot out, and also i have a hard time reaching the lever to release the high back lol. That is where the step in strap system comes in handy. I really liked that i could just pull the middle strap and was able to pull my boot out leaving toe strap alone. Then push the button to release the high back, then just re buckle the strap. After i get off the lift just step in and re adjust the strap for tightness.
I rode Flows for a bit, which these are essentially an update to that design. I really liked the way they felt, but I got rid of them for two reasons. First, I found them a bit of a pita in deep snow, but I could have worked with that. My bigger issue was they were great when you had a flat spot to strap in, but sucked when you did not. Sometimes, I had strap in awkwardly on my knees. I spent more time on the ground with "easy" in and out bindings than traditional bindings. Once you can strap standing with regular bindings, I really don't see the benefit of these. I am faster strapping with regular bindings than my buddy who rides Flows. Even with skiers, I can keep up because most loosen a buckle on their boots before the chair. If they wait for me, it only a few seconds. To each is their own, but I don't really see the benefit unless every unload at your mountain has a predictable flat spot to strap.
I’ve been teaching snowboarding for 15 years, AASI level 3 and Freestyle Specialist level 2, and have been riding flows for 13 years. I would often come across people who didn’t know how to use their flows and once I showed them they fell in love. I actually sold a pair off my board to a student once cuz no shops around had them. I can strap in without stopping right off the lift. It’s not really about the equipment if you know how to use it. Anyway, you can put on a rear entry binding standing up on any incline you can stand on if you face up hill and set your heel edge in the snow. A trick I taught all my students from beginners to experts. I’d have to try these to give them a fair shake but it looks like they took the flow and made it more complicated. If you have to bend down to clear your binding of snow you might as well flip up the highback while you’re down there. I never fall out of my flows, I know they’re always locked cuz I locked them with my hand. Hard to improve on a great design. Just my 2 cents.
@@makestuffbetter19 absolutely agree! Every quick entry binding requires a correct technique. For Flows I recommend getting the better ones with active strap. That made the Flows easy to entry while still being sufficently tight. I am able to get off the lift and step in on the move like nothing passing both skiers and strap ons :)
1:55 I have the same struggle getting in, especially back foot. For me it was the middle strap I had to tinker with. Try different positions with it on a table and see which degree of tightness allows the biggest ‘opening’ near the ankle binding as you step. Oddly this was not at the loosest setting for me, but somewhere in the middle. Hard to describe w/o picture. Proper alignment of foot relative to binding helped alot when stepping into rear binding. Take note if you ride very duck stance, have to turn your foot to match -15 deg, etc. For me it wasn’t the snow itself in deep powder (actually helps reduce friction), but simply not seeing your foot/binding alignment that made it harder. On grade I just dig shelf like regular bindings. Only other thing that helped for me was to not have them on a super tight setting. I actually set them loose to practice the steeping angle/motion. Just tighten after when you’re in. Please respond if you own these too and have other tips! I’m probably not going to return mine :)
Managed to bag a set of these after trying in vain last season. First go with them will be in French Alps over New Year, Can't wait. Your reviews helped me take the plunge, so thanks for them
I have the flows which have a different locking mechanism (they require you to lift up the highback an lock it) but are almost identical. The big benefit is on short rides on the groomers where you can strap in easily. Also as I am not getting any younger they seem like a good choice for not bending so much every time I strap in. Powder is definitely the worst place for them but on the groomers they will be great.
I hope you review the Clew too. It's a closer comparison to the Supermatic. Not really a fan of the Burton Step Ons. Like you said, it feels better having the strap feel over the foot.
He didn't read the instructions. Your issue is the middle connector strap is tight. It's just to hold the two straps in position. These bindings worked best for me in powder because the snow held the board in place when I stepped in.
Nice video showcasing the supermatics in action. When you speak about Union bindings there's a slight tone difference, but maybe it is just me, Anyway thanks for sharing.
Heck out Malcolm Moore’s review of these bindings Kev. I don’t think they are designed to be cranked as tight as you would with normal strap bindings. If you need to go that tight they just aren’t the right model for you. I always clear the snow from the footbed, on piste or in pow, why wouldn’t you? I’d only stop again at a lift and need to clear it, I hate riding with snow between the boot and binding. I’d love a pair (as I’m 50 now with a few back issues) but here in the UK they are like £400 and sell out before they hit the shelves 😢
I just got these and don't have a day on them yet but at home I have messed with them. At first I thought they were horrible cause it was so hard to get in and out. And then I watched their setup video and realized how important it was to have the straps right. If they aren't at direct center on your boot while binded in then you will heavily struggle to slide in plus you need to have the lostness of the middle hold strap it shouldn't be tight. After I corrected that I can step in a lot easier.
I got em' and was able to get a few days in with them. Once I got used to the function of stepping in and clicking it felt better. I found that the highback gets in the way when skating around so I just flipped it up a little to clear space. I am not much of a powder rider but I try, with that said, undoing and getting out of the binding in powder can be difficult because the highback doesn't have space to move back in the snow. You gotta clear an area for it to open. Or, just use the traditional straps to get out of them in deeper snow; its what we are all used to anyway so no real draw back on needing todo that in my opinion. All in all I do still like them for the on piste groomed riding. So easy to use and get in and out of right on and off the chair. Plus, you can use any boot brand you like. It's not a proprietary comment product. Kirkwood and Heavenly coming up Feb 2-7 I can't wait to put them to more use!!
You know if the powder is too deep you can just use it like a regular binding as well. Quick release works well in all conditions but I do have a little trouble pushing my foot in but I feel like it might be an angle thing, getting the right feel how to push in.
I bought some GNU Psych hoping they'd be better for strapping in and out every few minutes as an instructor. I've found that I became so quick with traditional bindings it doesn't make a time difference. Traditionals are actually easier as I'm unloading at the lift. I don't need the pushback of the surface to strap in. I can do it on the chair (but lifties frown on that) and I did it so much, I could slide-n-strap. (traditionals. Not GNU) I'm hopeful that someday we can just jump on and be in. Magnets maybe?
Based on my flow binding experience, they get a bit harder to step in when your bindings are really tight and you have a lot of forward lean. I would get into the habit of loosening my bindings a click or two just before getting on a lift and tightening them a click or two once I'm locked in and riding. Then if I get stuck in deep powder I would just use the straps instead of trying to step-in/out. However this season I'm using step-ons. I really like the simplicity of not having any straps or complex mechanisms.
@@certifedcupcake Nope. At least not on the pair that I rented for a week last season. However the pair I just bought has a tiny bit of play in the heel (like a millimeter) which has me a bit concerned. I haven't tried this new set out yet so it could be a non-issue when I get on the hill in a few days or after I break them in since these are brand new boots and bindings. However I think his issues were more to do with boot fit. He had brand new boots that were probably soft and not heat molded. I got ion boots that has an extra strap around the ankle that should eliminate any flex in the ankle on your toe edge like a traditional strap would. I think step-ons need a stiffer boot since you're not getting the added stiffness you would get from straps covering your ankle.
@@certifedcupcake After doing some research apparently a tiny bit of heel lift is by design, so I probably just didn't notice it in the pair I was using before.
Not to beat a dead horse, but I really think you should read the comments on your burton step on video, and test them again. Because I don't wanna say you're wrong but you're the first person to say they feel loose while everyone else say's they feel tighter and more locked in than any other type of binding (also speaking from personal experience with step ons, and left you a detail comment explaining why the step ons might feel loose to you, and how to adjust it)
There is a reason no pros ride those. They just aren't as good as traditional bindings and the convenience only saves a few seconds per run. Not to mention you are more or less locked in to the Burton ecosystem and some people don't like their boots or already have very nice expensive boots that fit their feet better.
The high back has a bit of a gap on the Step Ons so there is a delay in response, even producing a clicking sound when you rock your feet toe to heel and cant get rid of it because theres no way to adjust the boot to the step on binding. You wont notice this on snow but if you try this at home on a rug or carpet, you will notice it and this enough for some to shy away from using step ons by burton.
@@GuacPapi I'm not at all saying that, you should really read my comment, I know the burton step ons aren't for everyone, and that's okay, I for example love the extra response they give, never had that with any starp binding , but I know other people prefer strap bindings and that's totally fine.
I bought the Supermatics and rode them for a few days, mostly on groomers and found them to be a hassle to get in and out of in those conditions as well. I really didn’t like the straps and buckles. I found them to be hard to work with compared to other ‘strap’ bindings. I contacted Nidecker to see what I was doing wrong and they told me that the straps didn’t have to be as tight on the Supermatics when compared to traditional strap bindings, but then what’s the point? I switched to the latest Burton Genesis step ons and couldn’t be happier. I feel that I have complete control. I’ll be putting the Nideckers on eBay very soon.
like the review, but with the cons that you faced on the powder, you could have easily not used the step in function and strapped up like a regular binding. Pretty sure supermatics have both option as a quick stepon bindings, or a strap up function.
I have a question. you can still use the supermatics in a traditional strap in way right? like you dont have to step in and instead just strap in like normal for situations of deep pow?
Used here in Japanese powder. Worst feeling in the world to make your first toe side turn and realise you’re not clicked in. Hardly inspires confidence. I also couldn’t release them at the end of a run on multiple occasions, maybe due to compacted snow in the ratchet. Sticking to my regular Flux DS bindings.
Watching you struggle to get the binding to lock in, seems like I can be in my bindings just as fast. How stiff are they? I am a hard charger and like a good stiff binding. I am looking at Now and Jones but struggling with the 500+ dollar price tag.
I've been using a friend's SP rear entry bindings (similar but different) they are similar in the general way you put them on but the overall design is simpler and the locking mechanism is manual. You will always know if you are locked in or not. A pian in pow but luckily you can use them like a traditional binding if you want. I assume the supermatics can do the same?
1st video thats actually put me off the Nideckers ... you just can't get in them comfortably every time... might as well sit down and strap in my Burton freestyles... saved my £400 cheers😂
Need to try the clews mang! The step in method is much easier and the benefits of your own boots and straps! Although I believe they sell out every yr so far and are sold out
You definitely need a spot cleared of snow to make it easy to step in (i.e. Building a little shelf), but if that's not feasible or easy the point of the straps is that you can use it like a traditional binding. I think you missed not pointing that out as a pro. Otherwise good review, hope to see more.
For people that own these (I intend to buy as soon as the XL release): from watching a bunch of these vids it looks like part of the struggle to lock in is the technique. Trying to push the foot forward into the binding rather than stepping down with the heel and letting the mechanism do the work. Would you say that was correct, or have a drunk a little too much kool-aid?
Seems to be mainly the back foot (i.e. the second foot) that is a problem. You can't generate as much downforce because you are already strapped in with the front foot?
It looks like your middle ratchet is way too tight, thats why you have to push with your feet a lot, to get clicked in. The middle one is just to keep the upper strap in place, not to keep your boot tight.
In deep pow I strap in. It's no more inconvenient than it is for anyone else on a traditional strap. It only feels annoying because I've spent all season taking for granted the fact that I never have to sit my ass down after getting off the lift
@Martin yes you can get into the Burton step ons while sitting. I just bought them in Dec and sat down to step into them a few times the 1st week until I got more efficient with them.
Burton step ons require 2 clicks to feel really secure (even though burton state 1 click is safe), the 1st click is really easy to achieve and can be done sitting down, the 2nd click can be done once you have stood up or even sometimes easier when you start moving
With all gear you tested would you recommend just regular strap in bindings if you wanted just the best all around in all conditions? I’ve been enjoying the videos. I was in Lake Tahoe last weekend, enjoyed that beautiful place cool to see you enjoying it too!
It's easier to use the ladders instead of the step in system in extreme conditions. Extra tightening of the bindings also makes it harder to step into the bindings. Supermatic is a great system and I love it but it won't strap you in while floating on snow or during jumps in mid air like ironman. I think Burton has a better chance to realise that dream for the exotic audience since the lock in system is more direct. The vid is great purely for the powder he is riding. Lucky man.
As you pointed out I think that those bindings are for groomers and maybe for park, but for powder and deep snow that are not so effective as the traditional bindings. But hey, what do I know :) I never had the chanse to ride any of this step-on or step-in's.
Great concept but too new. Need a few iterations of this product to get a better one. Have heard they are heavier than traditional bindings. I would wait for a model with lighter materials 2-3 years down the line
I had a chance to try on a pair of these. I didn't get to ride them, but they seemed difficult to both step into and out of. I was on flat ground with no extra snow/powder around. The retail on these is outrageous as well....between $600 and $1100. I ride GNU cheeter bindings which can be used as either a step in or traditional binding. Alot more reasonably priced and I think just as good if not better.
Steep or deep - don't step in. Treat them like a 2-strap. Everywhere else - step in all day long. And that's the whole point. You can use them step in when that's right and as a 2 strap when it's right. No point in reviewing them opposite to how they are intended.
These bindings look like an engineering masterpiece but fully fail. I see a lot of struggle getting out and in, i.e in snowy conditions and the straps do not seam to be really tight. In fact, from the video they behave exactly how I expected them to behave. This binding seams to be overengineered but still not great!
I’m sorry but traditional bindings are just better. The fact you still have to bend down to get out of step in bindings negates the point of them trying to be like ski bindings. I tried the Burton bindings last year and just was not impressed with them. I’ll stick with my Nitro Team bindings and TechNine bindings.
It’s a bit pointless reviewing bindings in pow! We all love pow but it’s only a small percentage of our riding. Be good to hear your thoughts on pisted runs, where they will be used the most, and any weaknesses will be apparent very quickly. Cheers
Why reinvent the wheel? I don’t understand these step on systems… but then I’ve never tried one so I can’t criticize them too much. Burton step ons… I get it… it’s marketed towards novice and casual riders w/ $$, so the company coming up w/ a gimmick makes sense. But these nidecker ones seems like they’re trying hard to replace the tried and true bindings…. I can’t see any serious riders replacing their current set up for these…
I would argue saying step ons are a gimmick is criticising them too much, I have them for 2 seasons now and never will go back to regular bindings. Especially now in my 40's my knees and back are very happy as well with the convenience, get off the lift (sometimes if I have 2 seats for myself on the outside of the lift I can even click in on the way up already) click in and go. $$ is kinda a non argument because regular bindings and boots can be very expensive as well. Can't say anything about the nidecker though since I've never rode those, but it seems like a hassle having to deal with straps again in comparison to the step ons.
@@scratastic1 I guess to each their own. Like I said, I’ve never tried any step ons so I don’t have an educated opinion but the fact that these are heavily marketed seems to tell me they’re looking to cash in on casual riders w/ $$. Regardless of this, I’m all for getting more people riding and riding for longer so if it works for you, I’m glad. For me, I’ll stick w/ yoga and stretching and my Now skate tech technology 🤙.
Union bindings for the win🤷🏻♂️ all this step on/in crap is just marketing garbage, if I had to adjust my bindings that much mid run I would hate life and not feel very confident.
...maybe wishing you had two clicks here 🥲 still looks like a fun time out there. seems like it may be tough to get rid of all the snow underfoot when you have to unstrap in deep pow. do you have to use your weight to click in or can you use your hands?
Supermatics are amazing so far. Ripped some powder the last couple of days and didn’t have issues with snow getting in them. Once you figure out how to stomp your foot in, these bindings are a game changer.
I got these bindings this year (because I'm getting older). As bindings they are quit good (good flex). The step in takes a lot of practice to master. I have had the mechanism get snowed in, but only in a big pow day. Huge benefit is that I feel much less tired at the end of the day using these binding. The bindings are also way heavier that normal bindings, but they feel great riding. I recommend for fellow old man snowboarders.
Answer this for me… how do you skate around with the high backs laying backwards where your feet would be pushing the ground typically?
@@goodridevibes tilt the high back forward and skate. It doesn't fold flat since the straps are in the way, but enough to not be in the way.
@@neil_b4_zod appreciate the input my guy
No better than Burton StepOn….definitely… i’ve tried both obviously!
@@goodridevibes the highback folds back up while skating no problem.
Love the content! I have never used any step-on or step-in bindings, so you can take my view with a grain of salt. But I like the concept of being able to use the Supermatics just like a traditional binding if you want to or the conditions dictate - like steeper terrain or deeper snow. And then when you just get off a chairlift, you can step straight in & off you go. It looks like the best of both worlds.
In powder its definitely more worth it to use this binding as a traditional binding, The step in function for me at least being on the east coast with hills instead of mountains and ice instead of snow was to make it so i was actually enjoying my day of riding instead of spending the majority of it doing up the bindings and riding the incredibly slow chair lifts.
On groomers you will immediately notice how good they really are as binding and if there are any cons, you will find them pretty quickly
was going to say the same thing about using them as traditional bindings in deep snow. XD
I have them, the only criticism they may have is that the front of the snow boots tends to wear you out, specifically the one that you tend to wear the most, otherwise they are super safe, super comfortable, the weight is very little difference, and in the The part that you said did not work where there was a lot of snow, in that area you can use the hybrid binding option, and they work very well. and the proof is that in rare situations where practically no binding works well if you compare them with the competition, in those situations believe it works much worse than those of the competition since some of its competition security binding can really fail, where security, which is the most important thing, is at stake and without forgetting that they give you the advantage of using it hybrid, it works very well for you as if it were a regular one, and without losing security, detail to take into account
Ive been using supermatics all season and I’ve found that if you make sure your pants don’t get under your top strap they lock in much easier. They take a bit of figuring out but they make your day on the mountain so much easier.
I rip on supermatics in the park and in pow. I think the folks who don't get along with step-ins have just simply been snowboarding longer then I have on traditional bindings and are a bit stuck in their way. The dope thing about supermatics is if you find yourself stuck in some real deep snow, you just simply sit on your ass and strap in like you would any traditional binding. So in that 5% situation there is a solution and the other 95% of the time you just step-in and roll out. So you're not losing anything at all and simply gaining time on the slopes 95% of the time, the other 5% you strap in just as fast as the next guy. I love these things.
Clew Freedom 1.0's would be a better comparison when compared to the supermatic. They are closer in weight since they are both a little over 2 pounds and are universal to any boot type.
Yes, a comparison in a Video would be nice.
Not really, you're comparing to traditional bindings which is what most people are looking from. For the most, these systems are not a necessity, more of a feature/luxury.
@@JLneonhug if your coming from traditional bindings you should already have a baseline of what they are like to ride.
@@JLneonhug why would you even compare with traditional bindings, they obviously offer the best performance of you. These are just some bindings that offer a pretty good performance and mainly for casual riding
Clews are junk compared to anything else. I mean who really wants to walk around with a high back stirrup on their boots. It just screams gaper
In such deep snow conditions these bindings needs to be used just as regular bindings, which is a plus for Supermatics. Vendor's quote: " If the slope or snow conditions demand it, you can even strap in just like a regular binding."
Use them, and I love them. Yes it's challenging in deeper snow, but not more than traditional - when very deep just strap traditionally - it work for them perfectly.
I own these. One thing I noticed is if you like your high backs a bit forward, you'll have some resistance locking in. I rock my foot side to side and have no issues! We don't normally get powder days where I am but these are much faster for resort riding. I set them to the angles I was using for my union forces and they felt right at home. I like to set the straps each time I go out (my preference), and I'm good for the day.
if u loosen the "middle" strap more, u get better in and out! i ride them since october, and had the problem with it. but when u loose the strap more u have more fun!
I think your missing the point of the supermatics, which is that you have the option to step in or strap in. In deep powder, you should treat them like regular bindings and use the straps instead of stepping in
I think you might not have been fully clicked in on the step ons. I tried the step ons today and they were really nice! I would have gotten the supermatics but they are sold out EVERYWHERE!
I’ve ditched my Flow NX2s I’ve been using for years for Supermatics last winter. I just can’t trust the small holding brackets of Step-Ons on the front of the boots. The release mechanism of Supermatics seems foolproof and very secure and I also like the third diagonal strap on the boot. People stop me all the time on tops of mountains asking me what the hell are these bindings. Thanks!
This is good to know looking ahead to my trip. Brian Head got nice and powdery the last time I was there, so now I know what to expect. It's always great watching your videos...thanks.
Yeah you will definitely understand the full potential if you use the step in on groomers and normal days and the traditional system on the powder days, best bindings ever. Just waiting for the XL version to be finally released to enjoy the full comfort!!!
Just curious, what's your boot size? I'm thinking of getting some of these for the next season...I'm 11/12 depending on the boot brand, comfort, etc...and the Nidecker size guide says Large is for 8-11, and XL 11-13. I wonder if I should get an L or XL pair.
What part is confusing? You don't trust the manufacturer's specifications?@@Umagum4
@@farawayskies
I've already bought them! Went for a Large(upper limit) and it fits perfect.
The thing is that I've had this issue in the past, when you are on the edge of two chart sizes, for some brands is better to go upwards and on others is better to be on the limit of the lower size.
As I haven't use specifically any Nidecker ones before this purchase, I wasn't actually sure.
I've never understood why rear entry bindings (high backs that fold back nearly flat) aren't more popular. They've been out for a long time and work well and fast. Being able to put your foot into the bindings without unstrapping and then just snapping the high backs into their upright position is the best idea and I'd so almost faster and more reliable that burton stop ons.
I got the bindings being a newer boarder and wanted to have that step in ability. I love them.
Time spent on the lift + sometimes getting stuck in powder. It is a lot of time that you are spending not riding. So that time that the binding is supposed to save you doesn't matter at all.
appreciate the honest review, feel like i havent heard any cons but you showed some real cons based on your experience, always good to know !
All the cons are mitigated by the fact these binding are 2-strap AND traditional all in one. Nidecker themselves say one of their core features is that when it's too steep or too deep that you simply treat them like a 2-strap.
@@Daz5Daz yeah nidecker killed it with these, one day i hope to get some
I have used them for a week now and they work fine but some of the problems Kevin encountered have to do with the setup of the bindings.
The middle strap has to set up lose and If you don’t overcrank the ratcheds you will be fine in most conditions.
The stepping in process is just a thing wich takes a little bit of time to get used to.
But when you have found your balance and routine the fun begins.
Sometimes you will step on the strap or don’t get in as fluently as wished for but most of the time it goes well.
The best thing is to insert the front of your boot calm and when that goes right you push your heel firmly to the bottem of the binding and your off to go.
Sometimes I noticed that during the day you you don’t get in as fluently as you did before and after redoing the straps the problem was gone.
Just like the other systems it has its pro’s and cons but for most people it be a good binding.
The quality of the product is good and solid.
If you want to see a verry good review check the one that Malcom More made about these bindings.
I bought a pair the other day. The main reason i bought them is because I’m getting older, 46 and I’m A bigger guy. I weight 272 and stand 6’3”. Being a bigger guy it is becoming difficult task to bend over and strap my board on, but i still have many good years of. Boarding left in me and don’t want to quit boarding so my option was to buy the step ins, & i consented a system where i could use any boot.
I was at home fooling around with the binding system stepping in and out and what not and the only thing i didn’t really like was that after i was strapped in i like my bindings tight. The tighter you make the straps the harder it is to pull the boot out, and also i have a hard time reaching the lever to release the high back lol. That is where the step in strap system comes in handy. I really liked that i could just pull the middle strap and was able to pull my boot out leaving toe strap alone. Then push the button to release the high back, then just re buckle the strap. After i get off the lift just step in and re adjust the strap for tightness.
I rode Flows for a bit, which these are essentially an update to that design. I really liked the way they felt, but I got rid of them for two reasons. First, I found them a bit of a pita in deep snow, but I could have worked with that. My bigger issue was they were great when you had a flat spot to strap in, but sucked when you did not. Sometimes, I had strap in awkwardly on my knees. I spent more time on the ground with "easy" in and out bindings than traditional bindings. Once you can strap standing with regular bindings, I really don't see the benefit of these. I am faster strapping with regular bindings than my buddy who rides Flows. Even with skiers, I can keep up because most loosen a buckle on their boots before the chair. If they wait for me, it only a few seconds. To each is their own, but I don't really see the benefit unless every unload at your mountain has a predictable flat spot to strap.
I’ve been teaching snowboarding for 15 years, AASI level 3 and Freestyle Specialist level 2, and have been riding flows for 13 years. I would often come across people who didn’t know how to use their flows and once I showed them they fell in love. I actually sold a pair off my board to a student once cuz no shops around had them. I can strap in without stopping right off the lift. It’s not really about the equipment if you know how to use it. Anyway, you can put on a rear entry binding standing up on any incline you can stand on if you face up hill and set your heel edge in the snow. A trick I taught all my students from beginners to experts. I’d have to try these to give them a fair shake but it looks like they took the flow and made it more complicated. If you have to bend down to clear your binding of snow you might as well flip up the highback while you’re down there. I never fall out of my flows, I know they’re always locked cuz I locked them with my hand. Hard to improve on a great design. Just my 2 cents.
@@makestuffbetter19 absolutely agree! Every quick entry binding requires a correct technique. For Flows I recommend getting the better ones with active strap. That made the Flows easy to entry while still being sufficently tight. I am able to get off the lift and step in on the move like nothing passing both skiers and strap ons :)
@@zbysekpetrik5516 truth!
@@zbysekpetrik5516 truth!
1:55 I have the same struggle getting in, especially back foot. For me it was the middle strap I had to tinker with. Try different positions with it on a table and see which degree of tightness allows the biggest ‘opening’ near the ankle binding as you step. Oddly this was not at the loosest setting for me, but somewhere in the middle. Hard to describe w/o picture.
Proper alignment of foot relative to binding helped alot when stepping into rear binding. Take note if you ride very duck stance, have to turn your foot to match -15 deg, etc.
For me it wasn’t the snow itself in deep powder (actually helps reduce friction), but simply not seeing your foot/binding alignment that made it harder. On grade I just dig shelf like regular bindings.
Only other thing that helped for me was to not have them on a super tight setting. I actually set them loose to practice the steeping angle/motion. Just tighten after when you’re in.
Please respond if you own these too and have other tips! I’m probably not going to return mine :)
I guess their advantage is when you want to use it traditionally, you CAN with this binding.
Managed to bag a set of these after trying in vain last season. First go with them will be in French Alps over New Year, Can't wait. Your reviews helped me take the plunge, so thanks for them
I have the flows which have a different locking mechanism (they require you to lift up the highback an lock it) but are almost identical. The big benefit is on short rides on the groomers where you can strap in easily. Also as I am not getting any younger they seem like a good choice for not bending so much every time I strap in. Powder is definitely the worst place for them but on the groomers they will be great.
I hope you review the Clew too. It's a closer comparison to the Supermatic. Not really a fan of the Burton Step Ons. Like you said, it feels better having the strap feel over the foot.
Everyone I’ve seen said these are better than the Clews
Great review, thanks you! Difficult for them to reinvent the wheel.
He didn't read the instructions. Your issue is the middle connector strap is tight. It's just to hold the two straps in position. These bindings worked best for me in powder because the snow held the board in place when I stepped in.
Nice video showcasing the supermatics in action. When you speak about Union bindings there's a slight tone difference, but maybe it is just me, Anyway thanks for sharing.
I have mobility issues so I am SO stoked about these! Total game changer n I cant wait to try them outside n not just arounf the house! Lol
Heck out Malcolm Moore’s review of these bindings Kev. I don’t think they are designed to be cranked as tight as you would with normal strap bindings. If you need to go that tight they just aren’t the right model for you.
I always clear the snow from the footbed, on piste or in pow, why wouldn’t you? I’d only stop again at a lift and need to clear it, I hate riding with snow between the boot and binding.
I’d love a pair (as I’m 50 now with a few back issues) but here in the UK they are like £400 and sell out before they hit the shelves 😢
I just got these and don't have a day on them yet but at home I have messed with them. At first I thought they were horrible cause it was so hard to get in and out. And then I watched their setup video and realized how important it was to have the straps right. If they aren't at direct center on your boot while binded in then you will heavily struggle to slide in plus you need to have the lostness of the middle hold strap it shouldn't be tight. After I corrected that I can step in a lot easier.
Looks like Flow Nx2s. with lever on the side 🤔 .. The dreaded pushing into the bindings to close them with lil snow is the only problem.
I got em' and was able to get a few days in with them. Once I got used to the function of stepping in and clicking it felt better. I found that the highback gets in the way when skating around so I just flipped it up a little to clear space. I am not much of a powder rider but I try, with that said, undoing and getting out of the binding in powder can be difficult because the highback doesn't have space to move back in the snow. You gotta clear an area for it to open. Or, just use the traditional straps to get out of them in deeper snow; its what we are all used to anyway so no real draw back on needing todo that in my opinion. All in all I do still like them for the on piste groomed riding. So easy to use and get in and out of right on and off the chair. Plus, you can use any boot brand you like. It's not a proprietary comment product.
Kirkwood and Heavenly coming up Feb 2-7 I can't wait to put them to more use!!
you can fold the highback forward like a regular binding when skating
@@EyItzTiNNie Yes. I acknowledged that hack in my comment. Thank you.
You know if the powder is too deep you can just use it like a regular binding as well.
Quick release works well in all conditions but I do have a little trouble pushing my foot in but I feel like it might be an angle thing, getting the right feel how to push in.
I bought some GNU Psych hoping they'd be better for strapping in and out every few minutes as an instructor. I've found that I became so quick with traditional bindings it doesn't make a time difference. Traditionals are actually easier as I'm unloading at the lift. I don't need the pushback of the surface to strap in. I can do it on the chair (but lifties frown on that) and I did it so much, I could slide-n-strap. (traditionals. Not GNU)
I'm hopeful that someday we can just jump on and be in. Magnets maybe?
Based on my flow binding experience, they get a bit harder to step in when your bindings are really tight and you have a lot of forward lean. I would get into the habit of loosening my bindings a click or two just before getting on a lift and tightening them a click or two once I'm locked in and riding. Then if I get stuck in deep powder I would just use the straps instead of trying to step-in/out. However this season I'm using step-ons. I really like the simplicity of not having any straps or complex mechanisms.
did you get anything like he described about the bottom of your feet leaving the boot when you jump on step ons?
@@certifedcupcake Nope. At least not on the pair that I rented for a week last season. However the pair I just bought has a tiny bit of play in the heel (like a millimeter) which has me a bit concerned. I haven't tried this new set out yet so it could be a non-issue when I get on the hill in a few days or after I break them in since these are brand new boots and bindings.
However I think his issues were more to do with boot fit. He had brand new boots that were probably soft and not heat molded. I got ion boots that has an extra strap around the ankle that should eliminate any flex in the ankle on your toe edge like a traditional strap would.
I think step-ons need a stiffer boot since you're not getting the added stiffness you would get from straps covering your ankle.
@@certifedcupcake After doing some research apparently a tiny bit of heel lift is by design, so I probably just didn't notice it in the pair I was using before.
Not to beat a dead horse, but I really think you should read the comments on your burton step on video, and test them again. Because I don't wanna say you're wrong but you're the first person to say they feel loose while everyone else say's they feel tighter and more locked in than any other type of binding (also speaking from personal experience with step ons, and left you a detail comment explaining why the step ons might feel loose to you, and how to adjust it)
So what he has to upgrade to more expensive boot to feel like a normal binding?
There is a reason no pros ride those. They just aren't as good as traditional bindings and the convenience only saves a few seconds per run. Not to mention you are more or less locked in to the Burton ecosystem and some people don't like their boots or already have very nice expensive boots that fit their feet better.
I thought the Ion and Photon boots have that pseudo ankle strap for this? Of course, that only applies to these two models and not any others.
The high back has a bit of a gap on the Step Ons so there is a delay in response, even producing a clicking sound when you rock your feet toe to heel and cant get rid of it because theres no way to adjust the boot to the step on binding. You wont notice this on snow but if you try this at home on a rug or carpet, you will notice it and this enough for some to shy away from using step ons by burton.
@@GuacPapi I'm not at all saying that, you should really read my comment, I know the burton step ons aren't for everyone, and that's okay, I for example love the extra response they give, never had that with any starp binding , but I know other people prefer strap bindings and that's totally fine.
I bought the Supermatics and rode them for a few days, mostly on groomers and found them to be a hassle to get in and out of in those conditions as well. I really didn’t like the straps and buckles. I found them to be hard to work with compared to other ‘strap’ bindings. I contacted Nidecker to see what I was doing wrong and they told me that the straps didn’t have to be as tight on the Supermatics when compared to traditional strap bindings, but then what’s the point? I switched to the latest Burton Genesis step ons and couldn’t be happier. I feel that I have complete control. I’ll be putting the Nideckers on eBay very soon.
like the review, but with the cons that you faced on the powder, you could have easily not used the step in function and strapped up like a regular binding. Pretty sure supermatics have both option as a quick stepon bindings, or a strap up function.
I have a question. you can still use the supermatics in a traditional strap in way right? like you dont have to step in and instead just strap in like normal for situations of deep pow?
would these be good for freestyle terrain as well and park riding?
1:10 Had my foot slip out for the same reason ONCE. Now I can just feel when I'm clicked in or not
Benefits over the burtons should be on powder days. You can just strap in with the Supermatic using tradition method. Burtons can’t do that.
Aye love your videos could you tell us what camera you use to film ?!
What camera are you using. Is it the insta 360
Used here in Japanese powder. Worst feeling in the world to make your first toe side turn and realise you’re not clicked in. Hardly inspires confidence. I also couldn’t release them at the end of a run on multiple occasions, maybe due to compacted snow in the ratchet. Sticking to my regular Flux DS bindings.
love your vids
Watching you struggle to get the binding to lock in, seems like I can be in my bindings just as fast. How stiff are they? I am a hard charger and like a good stiff binding. I am looking at Now and Jones but struggling with the 500+ dollar price tag.
I've been using a friend's SP rear entry bindings (similar but different) they are similar in the general way you put them on but the overall design is simpler and the locking mechanism is manual. You will always know if you are locked in or not. A pian in pow but luckily you can use them like a traditional binding if you want.
I assume the supermatics can do the same?
1st video thats actually put me off the Nideckers ... you just can't get in them comfortably every time... might as well sit down and strap in my Burton freestyles... saved my £400 cheers😂
Hi guys.thank you for your vdo looks fun 🎉😊
Waiting for the Clew bindings review
These are mega popular, Can't get my hands on a pair in UK at all, everyone sold out in 2023 already. Doh!!
Need to try the clews mang! The step in method is much easier and the benefits of your own boots and straps! Although I believe they sell out every yr so far and are sold out
You definitely need a spot cleared of snow to make it easy to step in (i.e. Building a little shelf), but if that's not feasible or easy the point of the straps is that you can use it like a traditional binding. I think you missed not pointing that out as a pro. Otherwise good review, hope to see more.
For people that own these (I intend to buy as soon as the XL release):
from watching a bunch of these vids it looks like part of the struggle to lock in is the technique. Trying to push the foot forward into the binding rather than stepping down with the heel and letting the mechanism do the work.
Would you say that was correct, or have a drunk a little too much kool-aid?
Seems to be mainly the back foot (i.e. the second foot) that is a problem. You can't generate as much downforce because you are already strapped in with the front foot?
Where can i buy these?? Cant find any stock online
Id love to see a video on the Jones or NOW Skate Tech and your thoughts. can you feel it? are they worth it?
I’m in the Catskills in NY since there’s never any powder , I’m sure these will work fine
Any issues when pushing in flats with the high backs being further out from your board? I could see that getting in the way and tripping people up.
You can fold it up.
It looks like your middle ratchet is way too tight, thats why you have to push with your feet a lot, to get clicked in. The middle one is just to keep the upper strap in place, not to keep your boot tight.
so Supermatics or Burton step on ? 🙂
In deep pow I strap in. It's no more inconvenient than it is for anyone else on a traditional strap. It only feels annoying because I've spent all season taking for granted the fact that I never have to sit my ass down after getting off the lift
Review the clewsss my boyyyy
Can you step in while sitting? Same question for those Burton stepins.
Lmao who sits to use step ins.....that's something for traditional bindings, but yes u can if u dig ur edge in first
@@j.main2380 Sometimes it's too steep to strap in standing. What do you do then when you have stepins?
@@martin_323 you either make a shelf and step in or just strap in like with regular bindings.
@Martin yes you can get into the Burton step ons while sitting. I just bought them in Dec and sat down to step into them a few times the 1st week until I got more efficient with them.
Burton step ons require 2 clicks to feel really secure (even though burton state 1 click is safe), the 1st click is really easy to achieve and can be done sitting down, the 2nd click can be done once you have stood up or even sometimes easier when you start moving
With all gear you tested would you recommend just regular strap in bindings if you wanted just the best all around in all conditions? I’ve been enjoying the videos. I was in Lake Tahoe last weekend, enjoyed that beautiful place cool to see you enjoying it too!
Supermatics are regular strap bindings as well. That is their great selling point.
I looked them up. They don't come in big enough sizes :(
I’m sure once they are dialled in and you are used to them after many days riding the review would be different.
It's easier to use the ladders instead of the step in system in extreme conditions. Extra tightening of the bindings also makes it harder to step into the bindings.
Supermatic is a great system and I love it but it won't strap you in while floating on snow or during jumps in mid air like ironman. I think Burton has a better chance to realise that dream for the exotic audience since the lock in system is more direct.
The vid is great purely for the powder he is riding. Lucky man.
Plz review the Clew bindings :)
It’s looks like you had the middle strap too tight. It was preventing your foot from sliding forward up to the toe strap.
As you pointed out I think that those bindings are for groomers and maybe for park, but for powder and deep snow that are not so effective as the traditional bindings.
But hey, what do I know :) I never had the chanse to ride any of this step-on or step-in's.
You just use them like regular binding in those situations, so it is the best of both worlds.
Clew!
I bought them and sold asap… Union and Nitro for me only. No advantage with Supermatics
Great concept but too new. Need a few iterations of this product to get a better one. Have heard they are heavier than traditional bindings. I would wait for a model with lighter materials 2-3 years down the line
So many blower pow days... i gotta get myself to Tahoe!
I had a chance to try on a pair of these. I didn't get to ride them, but they seemed difficult to both step into and out of. I was on flat ground with no extra snow/powder around. The retail on these is outrageous as well....between $600 and $1100. I ride GNU cheeter bindings which can be used as either a step in or traditional binding. Alot more reasonably priced and I think just as good if not better.
Nice review, but I think I’ll stick with my Raven FT270 Step-Ons bindings. The rear latch and release system is more reassuring
Test step ons again but get into them correctly first there is no way step ons feeling loose compared to standard binding.
when they will be available in canada :W
Yeawwwwww
Steep or deep - don't step in. Treat them like a 2-strap.
Everywhere else - step in all day long.
And that's the whole point. You can use them step in when that's right and as a 2 strap when it's right. No point in reviewing them opposite to how they are intended.
These bindings look like an engineering masterpiece but fully fail. I see a lot of struggle getting out and in, i.e in snowy conditions and the straps do not seam to be really tight. In fact, from the video they behave exactly how I expected them to behave. This binding seams to be overengineered but still not great!
3 clicks on each binding to make sure you are locked
Clew
I’m sorry but traditional bindings are just better. The fact you still have to bend down to get out of step in bindings negates the point of them trying to be like ski bindings. I tried the Burton bindings last year and just was not impressed with them. I’ll stick with my Nitro Team bindings and TechNine bindings.
It’s a bit pointless reviewing bindings in pow! We all love pow but it’s only a small percentage of our riding. Be good to hear your thoughts on pisted runs, where they will be used the most, and any weaknesses will be apparent very quickly. Cheers
Not pointless at all imo, we all knew that’s where other step ins have all suffered is in deeper snow
@@squid_fish step ins or step ons? These bindings are duel entry so it’s not even an issue.
Woah....fake tree?
These look horrible
Those one straps are terrible.
You don’t like anything invented in the last 15 years, maybe not the most objective reviewer😂
Did I say that?
Why reinvent the wheel?
I don’t understand these step on systems… but then I’ve never tried one so I can’t criticize them too much. Burton step ons… I get it… it’s marketed towards novice and casual riders w/ $$, so the company coming up w/ a gimmick makes sense. But these nidecker ones seems like they’re trying hard to replace the tried and true bindings…. I can’t see any serious riders replacing their current set up for these…
I would argue saying step ons are a gimmick is criticising them too much, I have them for 2 seasons now and never will go back to regular bindings. Especially now in my 40's my knees and back are very happy as well with the convenience, get off the lift (sometimes if I have 2 seats for myself on the outside of the lift I can even click in on the way up already) click in and go. $$ is kinda a non argument because regular bindings and boots can be very expensive as well. Can't say anything about the nidecker though since I've never rode those, but it seems like a hassle having to deal with straps again in comparison to the step ons.
@@scratastic1 I guess to each their own. Like I said, I’ve never tried any step ons so I don’t have an educated opinion but the fact that these are heavily marketed seems to tell me they’re looking to cash in on casual riders w/ $$. Regardless of this, I’m all for getting more people riding and riding for longer so if it works for you, I’m glad. For me, I’ll stick w/ yoga and stretching and my Now skate tech technology 🤙.
Union bindings for the win🤷🏻♂️ all this step on/in crap is just marketing garbage, if I had to adjust my bindings that much mid run I would hate life and not feel very confident.
...maybe wishing you had two clicks here 🥲 still looks like a fun time out there. seems like it may be tough to get rid of all the snow underfoot when you have to unstrap in deep pow. do you have to use your weight to click in or can you use your hands?
Holy Snow! Did SPC just give an Angry review! Thats is what us real riders need. 🛷