12 thousand years ago humans progressed from Neolithic hunter-gatherers to tribal agrarian communities where religion served something of a purpose ... this isn't the bronze age anymore ... "We Must Abandon Religion!"
...and these earliest religions were theocratic states based on control of cyclical cosmic knowledge which was used to know when to do things like plant crops and harvest. The rise of heroic and legendary warrior figures (Which lead to monarchies with theocratic support, i.e., divine right of rulers) followed later when defense of their agricultural territory generated large scale warfare. The first wars were wars between agriculturalists, and agriculturist wars against nomads and pastoralists. They were also wars between the theologies (or gods) of these disperate peoples.
Yes, but to deny that religions still fulfill a purpose is absurd. At the very least, religions define communities, they give people something to belong to. If you are born into a community with a certain church that is dominant, you don't want to be outside of it, all people want to be in with the in crowd. We might be able to achieve community in different ways, but religion has the most powerful tools, such as how it can solve ones uncertainty about how to behave and what to expect. If you can belong to a church that assures you that everything will be all right when you die, or a community group with ping pong, the choice is easy, even though the church is lying. I have been a lifelong atheist and it had been often very lonely. Others move to a new town and join a church, and instantly have people around them. I have no one. I have often wished I could believe, because delusion seems better than loneliness.
@@itsROMPERS... we have community, tradition, and social cohesion without religion. The strongest tool of religions for a community or culture is HATE. It amplifies human ethnocentric behaviors with a cultural 'us vs them' mentality. It's second strongest effect is one which bolsters internal authoritarian control of said culture. The Enlightenment, Humanism, Scientific epistemology, Secular humanism, and cultural tolerance have all developed IN SPITE of religions.
and replace it with what? In places where this is happening, they replace it with the cult of celebrity which suggests the idea that the human brain is primitive enough to require something outside of yourself to believe in, to keep you going. So then the response becomes, we need to replace it with something better, something less harmful, something that helps us do better rather than hindering it and no faction has a conclusive answer that everyone can make work yet.
@@itsROMPERS... The flip side of that is that if you wish to continue to be a member of that community, you are required to conform to its dogma (bc it's a religious group). The sense of belonging comes with a price that's too heavy for some. Whilst there is extreme love and affection for those who accept and enforce the religious values and norms, there is also the extreme prejudice toward those who stand against it or even toward those who want to change some tenets even as they agree with the overarching ideology.
I never get tired of listening to Hitchens. I understand him completely. I agree with him completely. Its just nice to hear reason, logic and truth spoken out load. Thanks for the video.
Speaking as a Christian, the way that I look at is this. If you are right, then all that awaits us when we die, is oblivion. If I am right, which I am, then I will be going to Heaven and you will not.
@@grahamhume5953 Yawns..you religious whackjobs are all the same. You keep repeating the same logical fallacies which have been addressed for centuries AD NAUSEAM. You clearly have no idea what pascal's wager is. Its so sad that you people are that braindead. Its pathetic..you need to grow up and more importantly start using your brain. ITs EMBARRASSING that you're this gullible!
@@arlandolittle7625 What absolute horseshit. You think people wouldn't start naming shit they used? How do you think language formed? You think god just folded his arms and nodded, and boom language? Lol please, for the love of God (ironically,) read another book.
@@arlandolittle7625Neurological and psychological pattern recognisablity of humans resulted by large prefrontal cortex made us able to communicate without the need for any god.
@@The_Alchemist_007 lol so it’s 100+ languages with 1000+ words in and somehow have the definitions you seen Chinese writings it’s basically symbols. You think German and Russian have the same words because of the frontal cortex ? lol
Atheism is horrific. If no God exists, life is objectively meaningless, purposeless, temporary chemical accident awaiting annihilation no matter how you live. Your life has no real significance above a cockroach or a termite. No real moral difference exists between mass-murder and swatting flies. Atheism is madness.
The truth is what is is, whether it's comforting or not. Religion has denied the truth all along - because it benefits from lies. Religion has backed down from science as science provided proof, religion never did - indeed their dogma is - don't question our ridiculous lies, it just is.
I frequent a wide span of the UA-cam landscape, making my algorithm as confused as are varied the videos it refers to me. That being said, the seeming number of otherwise intelligent people that genuinely and unironically affirm the Earth as not a sphere, or that Jesus is coming back because the world has bad things happen, or that naturalistic phenomenon clearly proves supernatural intervention, is at an all time high in my internet observation. Listening to Mr Hitchens reminds me that the truth is real, that critical assessment is non-negotiable, and that reality can indeed be contacted. Thank you for posting these on your channel. You keep the light burning. Hold fast. 🔥
I can only speak as a former Catholic who left the Church because I realized that the focus of the religion was: a. ceremony instead of charity. b. focus on things: catechism, candles, incense, prayerbooks, hymnals instead of people. c. closed system of priesthood where robes and vestments are more important than assistance to the poor. d. everything is about sin and the avoidance of sin, not people e. the non-acceptance of gay people as created by God to be who they are! Yes, we must abandon religion because Jesus would not recognize the Church He envisioned!
I was 15 (65) when I read of Peter 'supposedly' having the faith to walk on water. Then John 14:12-14 "whoever believes in me..." I knew there was something wrong with this book, and it was that very book that was showing me, there was something wrong with this book, the Christian bible. It took a while, but I woke up and realized, I was being deceived. The fear element, the creators inserted didn't work with me. 'Believe or ELSE!' Religion takes away one's quality of life with fear being the worst. Rules, traditions, silly dogma, control... ALWAYS a Christian informing you what you should/should not do, according to their religious sect/cult. The definition of 'Evil' should have religion behind it somewhere.
How can you have good and evil without God? Are we 'just another life form'? If so, then, logically, people do not deserve any special moral privilege. Therefore, how absurd is it for Hitch to call religion 'evil'! Moreover, it is not true that the Bible teaches, "Believe - or else!" In fact, if you are a good person, you have nothing to worry about. Yet, do you agree that God should judge evil people? For example, have you ever lied or stolen? If so, do you think God should judge a lying thief? Christ died on a Cross so that you may know Him. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@kenshiloh this is a poor response to a good post. It is also poor response to the video. You make false claims of Hitchens and you assume your god exists. And then make claims on your assumption. The bible over and over again tells us believe or else. If you deny the holy spirit you are hell bound. If you think on your own and not have blind faith in the bible, without reason you are hell bound. The very first story in bible tells you its gods way or damnation. The flood story is solely about believe and follow or die. You need to read your Bible.
We are told an all-knowing God designed the incredible complexities of all life, yet was so unimaginative & primitive it could only resolve issues by killing people.
I know right? If I didnt know better, I would think that god is a demon, judging by the human/animal sacrifices he demands in the bible. You would think that, since god is all powerful, he doesnt need mindless goblins to do or to say things for him, if he wants something so bad, he could do it himself, and in the meantime, show himself to the world to prevent people from suffering for eternity for nothing.
@@admdagarrafinha6429 So true. The Bible says that ‘god’ loves the scent of burning flesh. Only a sick psychopath would say that. If that god loved the scent of burning flesh why couldn’t he just imagine it instead of having animals and humans burned to death. In judges 11:1-12:7 Jephthah burned his daughter to death in exchange for that god to give him victory. There are many human sacrifices in that immoral, sick book.
@@MovieMakingManGod was referring to animals, not humans. It is well known that child sacrifices are punishable by death. The only time God asked for a child's sacrifice was Issac, Abraham's son. In your example, God didn't ask jebhthah to do such a thing but rather jebhthah bargained with God in order to win his war against the ammonites. Jebhthah was heartbroken by his vow because his daughter was a virgin and he would be left without a lineage. It's a tragic story that has nothing to do with God asking. However, his daughter told him to go through with it. The only time God sacrificed a child was his own. That's how you know the bible is true. It doesn't sugar coat or try to right the wrong but telling it as it is.
@@danhtran6401 Your imaginary god is grossly immoral. If you read the Bible and were honest that is the conclusion you would reach. Your god loves slavery, misogyny, infanticide, torture, child rape, child sex trafficking, animal sacrifices, incest, human sacrifices and every other immoral act. It’s sad christians are honest enough to read the Bible and condemn it.
After many years of research, I have collected every piece of verifiable evidence for god and compiled them into a list. Enjoy: Thank you for listening.
You lied. Liars suck. I expect you atheist moral degenerates to lie. Here is an outline of some evidences for God argued in world class debates. Nobody has defeated any one of them. Contingency - God is the best explanation for why something exists contingently rather than nothing. Something cannot begin from nothing without a cause. Therefore, Something necessarily self-exists. Self-existence is logically necessary. A Universe from Self -creation is logically impossible. Our Universe began to exist. Our Universe is not self-existent. Our Universe requires a causally antecedent agency to explain it’s existence. God does not - God has no beginning, but self-exists as prime. Cosmological - Absolute beginning confirmed by Big Bang cosmology requires a causal agency. Cause of Physical Universe cannot itself be Physical. Must be non-physical, space-less, timeless and willful to cause Physical Universe from Physical Nothingness. Design: Specified, ordered and integrated interdependencies aimed towards a third-purpose design objectives clearly infer intelligent agency. ‘Chance’ events within limited time-frames cannot rationally account for Design achievements. No sufficient Naturalistic mechanisms or explanations. Intelligent purpose is far more plausible explanation. Origin of radically sophisticated DNA information (software) driving molecular highly sophisticated molecular machines within each cell. Also, the design inference from irreducible complexity cannot and certainly has not been adequately explained. Precision FINELY TUNED constants and quantities present in initial conditions of the Universe to within infinitesimally narrow ranges to permit life. Universe is precision balanced on razor’s edge. This is virtual mathematical proof of intent - a function of mind - is necessary to explain these precision orderings. Ontological argument - God is a metaphysically necessary Being. Since God’s attributes are metaphysically possible, and all metaphysical possibilities must also be actual if possible, God must be actual. Intelligence in Nature: Intelligence, order and reason and information all from Nothingness? Spiritual instinct of man: Evolved to connect with something not actual? Free-will: Chemical causation is not free-will. Agency requires a soul. Chemicals have no moral duties. Moral Truth / Apprehension of Objective moral truth. Is rape really wrong or just an illusion? Is rape just a natural chemical byproduct caused by electrochemical activity (Atheism) - or an act of will. Massive Historical evidences of witnessed Miracles, visions, fulfilled prophecies,. Personal experiences: Ubiquitous NDE’s, supernatural phenomena Christ’s resurrection witnessed by hundreds. Absolute failure of Naturalism to explain a Finely tuned Universe, Finite Universe, Sentience, Rational truth and natural order, Moral Law (morality), intuition, intention, intelligence, purpose, free-will…
Copernicus and Galileo did so centuries ago: *Joshua 10.12-13; 20* “On the day the Lord gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the Lord: 'Sun, *STAND STILL* over Gibeon, and you, moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.' So the *Sun* _STOOD STILL,_ and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies . . . So Joshua and the Israelites defeated them completely, but a few survivors managed to reach their fortified cities.”
Something I have felt for a long time that Hitch expresses much better than I ever did. I can't make myself believe something because it might be convenient to do so.
Hitch made far more sense and was always more convincing than ANYONE he ever debated. He was on a level well above the folly and fear that drove others to the delusions of religious belief. He himself was a "god" amongst us. He was courageous.
You life is indeed more miserable and weaker oll into this empty worthless obsessive cult called atheism, no doubt about it. And God will judge you as well, do not think to escape.
@@Mar-dk3mpatheism isn’t a cult, you need to stop spreading that lie. Also after realizing the lunacy and lies of religion. My life has become more meaningful and happier than you could ever hope to understand. You do well to remember that
I've often said that atheists are simply those with the COURAGE to hold to rationality when analyzing our reality instead of needing an anxiety assuaging 'safety blanket' and a system which does our moral and intellectual thinking for us.
Freedom from religion has made my life so much more enjoyable and rewarding. Religion promotes guilt, shame, and fear to control the masses. We have space telescopes and science; we know better.
There are religious fundamentalists fuming, seething and cursing Christopher and rolling their eyes back after watching this video .This adds an extra layer of satisfaction and that makes a godless hellbound atheist , like me , happy.
@@JimCastleberry That religion was a first and ineffective attempt at an array of explanations about our environment and human condition. That religion presumes certainty without even real support. That every indication we can measure says our origins are humble and natural. That the only real understand we have of our universe and ourselves has been hard won by brilliant people who didn't assume they already had the answer. And of course it just goes on like this, in this video and countless others. What of this is madness to you?
@@valroniclehre193 You offer empty atheist speculation about religion as 'truth.' Pathetic. Then you lie, claiming BELIEFS are 'CERTAINTY.' Beliefs are not held with factual certainty. Liar. Are your certain that your lie is correct? Then you lie claiming every indication is our originals are natural. In fact, that's not even possible. Science has proven that NATURE itself began to exist about 13.85 billion years ago. The cause of natural existence cannot be natural (the effect of the cause. Boy that stupid is strong in you. You should be embarrassed. Your education has failed you.
@@valroniclehre193 Do you really believe low-grade UA-cam atheist propaganda videos are educating you? That's like believing the baby pool will prepare you for Olympic swimming or Navy SEAL underwater demolition teams.
@@valroniclehre193 There is all kinds of evidence the Biblical creation story was wrong according to science. Genesis claims liquid oceans on earth before the creation of the sun on day 4 but the oceans would be frozen without the sun. Many, many other examples.
You are correct but an important point relating to religion is we must restrict this ridiculous biblical notion of unlimited breeding, we are way over a level of breeding that is damaging to our existence.
Yes. "Go forth and multiply" is a strategy for tribal dominance through numbers. Yet, it is an ancient instinct still with us today. We must transcend it through emergent evolution: culture, science, reason, rule of law, good governance, intelligent planning etc.
The strongest, healthiest for individuals, socio-cultural constructs are those that enhance or compliment our inherited behavior, even to our detriment.
@@Shrimpsuey Yes, many advanced countries currently below replacement birth rate. An important statistic. But there are many unknowns and confounding variables on how this will play out in the future. Somewhat random variables include: 1) Increase in meat consumption as many previously impoverished populations gain affluence. As affluence grows many want to participate in 'upscale' lifestyles including meat consumption. But animal agricultural sector is a heavy contributor to GHGs, even greater than from combined global transportation sector. 2) This point follows from the previous one: Could rising impacts of climate change act to impair global population growth at some point? (Meat consumption not the only factor here.) 3) Era of abundance of energy and labour as predicted by master prognosticator, Tony Seba and others. What will be the effect on birth rate if and when near zero cost renewable energy, robotic labour and AI are all in play? Of course, there is an optimistic version. But broad use of AI and robotics could also be a nightmare for displaced workers without income.
@@Shrimpsuey Yes birth rate is down in 1st world countries but it's doubling in 2nd world Eastern countries, and we are ending up with a lower educated mass of degenerates that are swamping our 1st world countries and dragging our countries down to their levels.
There are videos on YT, where individuals pretend being incapacitated to witness humanity at its finest. Bringing tears to my eyes. But, I should want to be a part of a society, claiming to be the moral standard, in which leaders are looked up to, to no less than condemn your closest relatives and friends eternal damnation. A moral standard?
I love that quote Hitchens made in this video: "The sleep of reason brings madness". And I learned that it comes from a Goya etching. Powerful statement.
We lost a great mind, but with our modern technology Hitch will live forever, a feat Christians would be jealous of, if their conscious allowed it, when they die and nothing happens.
Hitchens was a forked tongued manipulator who got obliterated by Dr Craig in the facts, reason and evidence. Your obsession with some dead atheist, womanizing drug addict is laughable.
@@JimCastleberry Your entire statement is predicated on a false perspective. Atheism isn't a doctorine. It is a refusal to accept theistic claims and nothing more. It doesn't require evidence, only a failure to justify theism. Also I hate to be pessemistic, but this evidence and reason for theism is really just misuse of scientific ideas, or philosophical word games. Sorry, but that's all I have seen.
@@robgray2973 Did the chemicals cause that delusion in your soulless atheist cranium? Do your chemicals cause correct delusions. Idiocy is not a virtue Bob. Pull your head outta yo azz
Yes we all need to adopt Buddhist style philosophy and learn to accept, we do not and more importantly CANNOT KNOW our origins and stop believing in mythical explanations, especially religions!
To treat all religion as a monolithic entity with phrases like "religion was our first attempt..." does a really nice job of muddying the water. There have been and continue to be many religions with varying focuses. Yes, early religion grew out of an awe of nature, and a fear of ghosts. It led to many misunderstandings and disgusting practices, meant to appease the imagined god-of-the-gaps. But it also gave rise to the beginnings of morality. It shaped civilizations into what they are today. I get this impression that if religion were a pre-teen, with all its emotionality and misunderstandings, Hitch would say kill it, little realizing that if allowed to mature into the promise of what it could be, it would be quite desirable.
I have watched a lot of Hitchens, but this struck me as one of the best compilations. First attempt at understanding our existence is oh so clearly what religion is. It's way past time to retire those primitive drafts of understanding.
Censorship. Funny how every time I try to mention certain religious groups in the Middle East, my comments disappear. Not just here, but all across the woke UA-cam platform.
@@douglascutler1037 Every time I would like to bring up sites with statistics, data, numbers, got deleted. Woke culture is the censorship of democracy and an intellectual dictatorship
Theres a bug with comments. Sometimes they are hidden for no reason but not deleted If you navigate to the thread manually, without clicking link in your notifications they'll still be there Just delete and repost
('ー')/~~ This is an artistic proof of a created universe. When you paint a shadow it's the opposite color of the object that made the shadow. Nobody knew what the opposite color of white was so the artists avoided painting white on white. The opposite color of white is baby blue and baby pink. The first artist to figure it out was Norman Rockwell. I was the second artist to figure it out. I saw it in the corner of a white room. The lighting was perfect to see it.
People enthralled with Hitchens and other pro-Reason people are forgetting we already tried this philosophy of rationality; it was called the Enlightenment and it failed to include the fact that as humans we are never going to exist simply to express our logical reasoning. Which is one factor bringing about the ideas of Emerson and Thoreau. Hitchens, Dawkins and company leave me with the impression they all grew up watching the first Star Trek shows and thinking, "Gosh, that Mr. Spock is the way to go!" forgetting he was a fictional character.
We are beings that labor under the illusion that our lives mean more than they really do. Many of us live under the assumption that the universe was created for us when the opposite is true, the universe created us.
I know I am not going to live forever and neither are you, but until my furlough here on earth is revoked, I shall elbow aside the established pieties and raise my tumbler 🥃 of Johnnie Walker Black to this giant of reason and critical thought. Sorely missed today more than ever. 💐
Few inconvenient truths I would like to share. 1 Many of our greatest minds all agree that there is a supernatural intelligent force that created the universe and all the creatures great and small ,ourselves included. Life and the universe could NOT have been an accident THIS IS A SCIENTIFIC FACT. 2. there are two forms of most religions , Mans corrupted ,infected forms, and the original simple forms brought to use by the many great prophets , Buddha, Christ, Mohammed, Moses, Abraham , Baha'u'llah . As scientist Max Planck said' Any religion that is NOT the cause of LOVE and UNITY is NO RELIGION'.
People like Dawkins and Hitchens are (were) enchanted by their intellects, their command of English and their ability to dazzle many people with written and (in Hitchen's case also) spoken English. Their crusade against stupid religious people is largely an endeavor to aggrandize their own enormous egos. Jesus, Buddha, and all the major profets made a point of teaching how to gain wisdom by eliminating the ever destructive ego. Dawkins imagines that reverance for "scientific truth" will provide meaning for mankind. Hitchens was more down to earth; his comfort was - whiskey.
Nothing can change the mind of people who willingly lives in delusions. Do you think in this age somebody can't find every information about religions to decide, if those are credible or not?
Reason is higher than some levels of irrationality, 'cause it lifts you up and out of them, to thrive in higher worlds. But like the light we see is a small range in the middle of a larger range of all that is, so too is reason, and there are levels of irrationality that are higher than reason, because they lift you up out of reason, to fly and to thrive in higher worlds. Religion is one ladder up and out. Awake, we see only the rainbow fog of heaven's dark flowing river. Reason is not an end in itself, but a stage on the path to enlightenment, like the stage of being in a protective egg; but, escape driven cracks complete the egg. Through direct perception of truth, one's fitness for action in this universe ceases.
I agree with nearly everything Hitchens says, but one reservation. Sometimes he and those like him border on dogma themselves and are in danger of becoming, in effect just a new kind of religion
8:20 "I can't believe something because it is merely convenient to do so"? This is a straw man. I've seen scores of Hitchens debates and nobody asks him or any of you to believe something on the sole basis of convenience. Why would we? For that is already your prime disposition. It is an established fact that children forsake their childhood faiths for personal independence particularly in the realms of sxxuality.
Maybe someone asked him that off camera, or in a letter or an email, maybe in a quick face to face meeting on a street somewhere, or in one of a million other plausible scenarios, making it not a straw man after all. The arrogance to assume you’ve heard every question posed to him throughout his life is astounding! He’s basically just describing ‘Pascal’s wager’ anyway.
@@martinmoffat5417 Yes, as head atheist, you have my permission. Even the worst atheistic perspective is still firmly rooted in reality better than the best theistic perspective. Up until the second that I’m writing this, there is still no empirical evidence for your supposed magic sky man, hence making your position objectively irrational and not aligning with reality.
@@norcodaev empirical, fair enough if you mean is he’s not entwined with a tree or a local. But once you get beyond that discipline the door swings wide open
@@ga6589 No dummy, i was saying that America is a Christian society built around Christian moral standards, it's a part of America's identity and it's very ingrained into our culture. take that out, what's left?
Hitch was fantastic at what he did. Like no one else. A remarkable legacy. I still love hearing him speak. But it's too bad he wasn't also a health nut or he might still be alive. His habits of smoking and drinking are both significant risk factors for the esophageal cancer he died from.
@@dorkception2012 He certainly did not waste the time he had. Intelligence and bravery in high measure put to best use. I think you could simply transcribe much of his commentary and publish it direct to print with almost no editing.
@@dorkception2012 All we can do is plant a few seeds and hope they grow. When you look at the stories of people who deconverted a lot of the times it was because of certain verses they had a hard time reconciling.
( ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ The universe was created in 1976. It is too hot to make a universe at the time of the big bang. It can be created at anytime. God is slow and easy. A human can do a lot with their lifespan. I got the hunk. God got the chunk. Everyone else can have the rest. That is song spirit of ''76 by The Alarm.
Matt 7:21-27 ‘Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord”, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only one who does the will of my Father in heaven. . . . Then I will declare to them, “I never knew you;" Today's moral high ground should also include those who address the massive threat of man-made climate change along with the many millions who succumb every year to heart disease, cancer, emphysema and Alzheimer's from fossil fuel air pollution including from gas cars. (Is this polite enough?)
@@dorkception2012 It's rhetorical, a reverse guilt-trip on Christians who otherwise post like they have a first-class ticket to heaven. This is a very toned-down version. It often gets censored by FB when I use this argument in direct response to particular Christian posters. But it's civil tone, never any ad hominem, just a tough questioning of the soul's destiny based directly upon a modern interpretation of Jesus' own words.
Christopher's perfect words unfortunately fall on deaf ears when those ears are attached to the religious. The most powerful force known to mankind is not nuclear-power, but indoctrination. 🇦🇺🦘
@@drsatan3231 it's not my belief it's reality. And do you really know who satan is for you to use that username? Coz satan also believes Jesus is God so how about you change it
Your consciousness was screaming but you dont heard because the head is so loud and the heart is mute you are just saying without knowing the conséquence of that
Facts about science, history of science and christianity: Ancient greeks civilization has begun great and after few century from Pericles to Roman conquest ended miserabe in hedonistic society ( sounds familiär?) Ancient greeks never created scientific method and scientific tools which provide stabitity and certainty over generations of scholars. Ancient greeks were proved wrong by christian scholars from John Philoponus 5th century to Ptolemeus, wrong by Copernicus and Aristoteles who believed all motion come from internal proprieties of thing.That Was removed by Descartes " all motion come from God and there must be natural laws like moral laws eternal, unchangeable and universal. " Newton did find them. Ancient greeks had no respect for manual work the secret of practical instinct and prosperity. All modern societyand its rythmus and work were made in the christian monastery " ora and labora" including powered Tools and mechanical watch, becouse they needed time for pray and watch for timing. Today , science is actualy mazetialistic ideology, which is utterly wrong: The Consciounesse is not just brain process- people who were born blind can see in NDE. The Consciounesse is not material origin.
Someone wrote "Theology+fascism=religion". 15 likes. Goes without saying these people are atheist. What is theology? What is fascism? What is religion? I know atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. What would be the future of atheism if atheists continue to refuse to ask for proof that the Quran was memorized? I want to know if the Quran was memorized or not. I want to know the truth. Why did you believe the Quran was memorized?. Theology is philosophy or rational thinking and fascism is the opposite, like religion, like atheism. Emergency. I am a poet and artist searching for beauty and tranquility in a horrible world. Thank you.
(^_^)v Natural selection is the character flaw in evil that is integrity is more important than life otherwise evolution is tragic circumstances with nothing intelligent happening. Almost everyone survive until they reproduce. Nothing is getting selected except for the character flaw in evil. I found a replacement for the character flaw in evil that I liked but God makes me forget things that will cause me trouble.
i disagree strongly. we cannot keep a brain alive in jar yet, but people want to say science has all the answers. that's my equivalent to him saying something doesn't exist if you can't prove it. and what i said means just as much as the dollar store words he used to make his point. by the way, we skeptics. we are not skeptical of just one side of an argument. we are skeptical of both the one saying it is so, and the one saying it is not so. and we form our own opinions based around the notion that any ideas we form thereof in could be dead wrong.
It is irrelevant whether one abandons religion or not. Because you cannot change the architecture of the Universe and God is part of that architecture!
All these atheists,who babble against religion in general,rant on the basis of false notions about religion.....religion,like everything else,must be understood intelligently.
@JennyLovesWillRiker Well,first of all you have to define the " mythical being " . That has been tried in different philosophical ways. Secondly,nobody has to worship anything against his will. Thirdly,there are other " mythical beings " that have been invented during the course of the ages. Like the belief in nations, economics,national interest,all kinds of - isms,etc.... which have been equally destructive,if misused.And worthless as well. Insight into reality takes regard of the fact that matter is only a part of reality.The supernatural is also a component of reality. But it cannot be explored by denigrating it. I stick to my opinion that religion is not more destructive than anything else,IF UNDERSTOOD INTELLIGENTLY.
@JennyLovesWillRiker Looks like you are easy to amuse....well,have fun.🤗 And think a little bit as well.....Look at all the different definitions of religion in philosophy,or even Wikipaedia. Do you know the meaning of intelligence....?
@@valroniclehre193 Well,WHY? Usually,things made by people are made for a purpose. So what purpose could religion fulfil ? Obviously,it fulfils an innate need.All over the world and through the ages. Like everything else,religion has to be used intelligently. And some of these uses are USEFUL.
Not freedom of religion but freedom FROM religion!
12 thousand years ago humans progressed from Neolithic hunter-gatherers to tribal agrarian communities where religion served something of a purpose ... this isn't the bronze age anymore ... "We Must Abandon Religion!"
...and these earliest religions were theocratic states based on control of cyclical cosmic knowledge which was used to know when to do things like plant crops and harvest. The rise of heroic and legendary warrior figures (Which lead to monarchies with theocratic support, i.e., divine right of rulers) followed later when defense of their agricultural territory generated large scale warfare. The first wars were wars between agriculturalists, and agriculturist wars against nomads and pastoralists. They were also wars between the theologies (or gods) of these disperate peoples.
Yes, but to deny that religions still fulfill a purpose is absurd.
At the very least, religions define communities, they give people something to belong to.
If you are born into a community with a certain church that is dominant, you don't want to be outside of it, all people want to be in with the in crowd.
We might be able to achieve community in different ways, but religion has the most powerful tools, such as how it can solve ones uncertainty about how to behave and what to expect.
If you can belong to a church that assures you that everything will be all right when you die, or a community group with ping pong, the choice is easy, even though the church is lying.
I have been a lifelong atheist and it had been often very lonely. Others move to a new town and join a church, and instantly have people around them.
I have no one.
I have often wished I could believe, because delusion seems better than loneliness.
@@itsROMPERS... we have community, tradition, and social cohesion without religion.
The strongest tool of religions for a community or culture is HATE. It amplifies human ethnocentric behaviors with a cultural 'us vs them' mentality. It's second strongest effect is one which bolsters internal authoritarian control of said culture.
The Enlightenment, Humanism, Scientific epistemology, Secular humanism, and cultural tolerance have all developed IN SPITE of religions.
and replace it with what? In places where this is happening, they replace it with the cult of celebrity which suggests the idea that the human brain is primitive enough to require something outside of yourself to believe in, to keep you going. So then the response becomes, we need to replace it with something better, something less harmful, something that helps us do better rather than hindering it and no faction has a conclusive answer that everyone can make work yet.
@@itsROMPERS... The flip side of that is that if you wish to continue to be a member of that community, you are required to conform to its dogma (bc it's a religious group). The sense of belonging comes with a price that's too heavy for some. Whilst there is extreme love and affection for those who accept and enforce the religious values and norms, there is also the extreme prejudice toward those who stand against it or even toward those who want to change some tenets even as they agree with the overarching ideology.
I never get tired of listening to Hitchens. I understand him completely. I agree with him completely. Its just nice to hear reason, logic and truth spoken out load. Thanks for the video.
He had no education in Philosophy, History, Psychology and history of science.
NDE destroys Dawkins nonsense and materialistic Atheismus, definitely.
@@cristianpopescu78 Yawns..spotted the unhinged apologist
@@FactStormchristianpopescu78 is right.
Speaking as a Christian, the way that I look at is this. If you are right, then all that awaits us when we die, is oblivion. If I am right, which I am, then I will be going to Heaven and you will not.
@@grahamhume5953 Yawns..you religious whackjobs are all the same. You keep repeating the same logical fallacies which have been addressed for centuries AD NAUSEAM. You clearly have no idea what pascal's wager is. Its so sad that you people are that braindead. Its pathetic..you need to grow up and more importantly start using your brain. ITs EMBARRASSING that you're this gullible!
Hitchens really helped me learn to critically think. I think his lectures and debates should be taught in schools.
@mikefuffalo8487 if God didn’t instill words in man we couldn’t communicate !
@@arlandolittle7625 What absolute horseshit. You think people wouldn't start naming shit they used? How do you think language formed? You think god just folded his arms and nodded, and boom language? Lol please, for the love of God (ironically,) read another book.
I agree.
@@arlandolittle7625Neurological and psychological pattern recognisablity of humans resulted by large prefrontal cortex made us able to communicate without the need for any god.
@@The_Alchemist_007 lol so it’s 100+ languages with 1000+ words in and somehow have the definitions you seen Chinese writings it’s basically symbols. You think German and Russian have the same words because of the frontal cortex ? lol
This clip should be included in high school curriculums.
that would be sponsoring a state religion, so no
Especially in Arkansas, Alabama, Texas, Florida and Virginia.
@@kookamunga2458 Christianity will never die in the south, its far too ingrained in the culture.
@@Shrimpsueysponsoring a state religion?
@@kookamunga2458they’re too ingrained. During the time of the trans Atlantic slave trade, they use the bible to justify slavery
How comforting the truth is. Thank you.
Atheism is horrific. If no God exists, life is objectively meaningless, purposeless, temporary chemical accident awaiting annihilation no matter how you live. Your life has no real significance above a cockroach or a termite. No real moral difference exists between mass-murder and swatting flies.
Atheism is madness.
@failuretocommunicate if God didn’t instill language in man how could we communicate ?
@failuretocommunicate if God didn’t give man words how could we communicate ?
The truth is what is is, whether it's comforting or not. Religion has denied the truth all along - because it benefits from lies. Religion has backed down from science as science provided proof, religion never did - indeed their dogma is - don't question our ridiculous lies, it just is.
@@arlandolittle7625 If men didn't invent god how much better off would we be?
I frequent a wide span of the UA-cam landscape, making my algorithm as confused as are varied the videos it refers to me. That being said, the seeming number of otherwise intelligent people that genuinely and unironically affirm the Earth as not a sphere, or that Jesus is coming back because the world has bad things happen, or that naturalistic phenomenon clearly proves supernatural intervention, is at an all time high in my internet observation. Listening to Mr Hitchens reminds me that the truth is real, that critical assessment is non-negotiable, and that reality can indeed be contacted. Thank you for posting these on your channel. You keep the light burning. Hold fast.
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"Morale is an ingredient in health". Miss this man so much. You're always at the party, Hitch.
Hitchens was one of the most cultivated, logic, honest and brave men that society has ever had.
I can only speak as a former Catholic who left the Church because I realized that the focus of the religion was:
a. ceremony instead of charity.
b. focus on things: catechism, candles, incense, prayerbooks, hymnals instead of people.
c. closed system of priesthood where robes and vestments are more important than assistance to the poor.
d. everything is about sin and the avoidance of sin, not people
e. the non-acceptance of gay people as created by God to be who they are!
Yes, we must abandon religion because Jesus would not recognize the Church He envisioned!
I was 15 (65) when I read of Peter 'supposedly' having the faith to walk on water. Then John 14:12-14 "whoever believes in me..." I knew there was something wrong with this book, and it was that very book that was showing me, there was something wrong with this book, the Christian bible. It took a while, but I woke up and realized, I was being deceived. The fear element, the creators inserted didn't work with me. 'Believe or ELSE!' Religion takes away one's quality of life with fear being the worst. Rules, traditions, silly dogma, control... ALWAYS a Christian informing you what you should/should not do, according to their religious sect/cult. The definition of 'Evil' should have religion behind it somewhere.
How can you have good and evil without God? Are we 'just another life form'? If so, then, logically, people do not deserve any special moral privilege. Therefore, how absurd is it for Hitch to call religion 'evil'!
Moreover, it is not true that the Bible teaches, "Believe - or else!" In fact, if you are a good person, you have nothing to worry about. Yet, do you agree that God should judge evil people? For example, have you ever lied or stolen? If so, do you think God should judge a lying thief?
Christ died on a Cross so that you may know Him. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@kenshiloh this is a poor response to a good post. It is also poor response to the video. You make false claims of Hitchens and you assume your god exists. And then make claims on your assumption. The bible over and over again tells us believe or else. If you deny the holy spirit you are hell bound. If you think on your own and not have blind faith in the bible, without reason you are hell bound. The very first story in bible tells you its gods way or damnation. The flood story is solely about believe and follow or die. You need to read your Bible.
Thank-you for sharing.
@@kenshiloh you are being a delusional little turd. a dumbed down useless sheep.
Religious people are the simpletons of our world.
When a child is growing and they have a false ideology of something, it's corrected.
We are told an all-knowing God designed the incredible complexities of all life, yet was so unimaginative & primitive it could only resolve issues by killing people.
I know right? If I didnt know better, I would think that god is a demon, judging by the human/animal sacrifices he demands in the bible. You would think that, since god is all powerful, he doesnt need mindless goblins to do or to say things for him, if he wants something so bad, he could do it himself, and in the meantime, show himself to the world to prevent people from suffering for eternity for nothing.
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@@admdagarrafinha6429 So true. The Bible says that ‘god’ loves the scent of burning flesh. Only a sick psychopath would say that. If that god loved the scent of burning flesh why couldn’t he just imagine it instead of having animals and humans burned to death. In judges 11:1-12:7 Jephthah burned his daughter to death in exchange for that god to give him victory. There are many human sacrifices in that immoral, sick book.
@@MovieMakingManGod was referring to animals, not humans. It is well known that child sacrifices are punishable by death. The only time God asked for a child's sacrifice was Issac, Abraham's son. In your example, God didn't ask jebhthah to do such a thing but rather jebhthah bargained with God in order to win his war against the ammonites. Jebhthah was heartbroken by his vow because his daughter was a virgin and he would be left without a lineage. It's a tragic story that has nothing to do with God asking. However, his daughter told him to go through with it. The only time God sacrificed a child was his own. That's how you know the bible is true. It doesn't sugar coat or try to right the wrong but telling it as it is.
@@danhtran6401 Your imaginary god is grossly immoral. If you read the Bible and were honest that is the conclusion you would reach. Your god loves slavery, misogyny, infanticide, torture, child rape, child sex trafficking, animal sacrifices, incest, human sacrifices and every other immoral act. It’s sad christians are honest enough to read the Bible and condemn it.
Religion needs to go.
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Religion will live also after you Die, think about it, you godless alone weak person trapped into an empty cult called atheism
@@Mar-dk3mpits hard for delusions to die
It does, but it won't, not as long as there are people who can do everythign in their power to keep it alive.
@@TerranigmaQuintet Yup. It's a useful tool of control.
After many years of research, I have collected every piece of verifiable evidence for god and compiled them into a list.
Enjoy:
Thank you for listening.
you forgot this one:
thanks
You lied. Liars suck. I expect you atheist moral degenerates to lie.
Here is an outline of some evidences for God argued in world class debates. Nobody has defeated any one of them.
Contingency - God is the best explanation for why something exists contingently rather than nothing. Something cannot begin from nothing without a cause. Therefore, Something necessarily self-exists. Self-existence is logically necessary. A Universe from Self -creation is logically impossible. Our Universe began to exist. Our Universe is not self-existent. Our Universe requires a causally antecedent agency to explain it’s existence. God does not - God has no beginning, but self-exists as prime.
Cosmological - Absolute beginning confirmed by Big Bang cosmology requires a causal agency. Cause of Physical Universe cannot itself be Physical. Must be non-physical, space-less, timeless and willful to cause Physical Universe from Physical Nothingness.
Design: Specified, ordered and integrated interdependencies aimed towards a third-purpose design objectives clearly infer intelligent agency. ‘Chance’ events within limited time-frames cannot rationally account for Design achievements. No sufficient Naturalistic mechanisms or explanations. Intelligent purpose is far more plausible explanation. Origin of radically sophisticated DNA information (software) driving molecular highly sophisticated molecular machines within each cell. Also, the design inference from irreducible complexity cannot and certainly has not been adequately explained.
Precision FINELY TUNED constants and quantities present in initial conditions of the Universe to within infinitesimally narrow ranges to permit life. Universe is precision balanced on razor’s edge. This is virtual mathematical proof of intent - a function of mind - is necessary to explain these precision orderings.
Ontological argument - God is a metaphysically necessary Being. Since God’s attributes are metaphysically possible, and all metaphysical possibilities must also be actual if possible, God must be actual.
Intelligence in Nature: Intelligence, order and reason and information all from Nothingness?
Spiritual instinct of man: Evolved to connect with something not actual?
Free-will: Chemical causation is not free-will. Agency requires a soul.
Chemicals have no moral duties.
Moral Truth / Apprehension of Objective moral truth. Is rape really wrong or just an illusion? Is rape just a natural chemical byproduct caused by electrochemical activity (Atheism) - or an act of will.
Massive Historical evidences of witnessed Miracles, visions, fulfilled prophecies,.
Personal experiences: Ubiquitous NDE’s, supernatural phenomena
Christ’s resurrection witnessed by hundreds.
Absolute failure of Naturalism to explain a Finely tuned Universe, Finite Universe, Sentience, Rational truth and natural order, Moral Law (morality), intuition, intention, intelligence, purpose, free-will…
How bout reading this one it supports what you are trying to say
Need I say more 👀
🤣 Good one, and good on you! Thanks for the laugh ...... brilliant tease.
@@JimCastleberryliterally none of that is verifiable kiddo
Nothing is more liberating than knowledge and intelligence as so well illuminated and explained here and has displaced religion for many of us.
Copernicus and Galileo did so centuries ago: *Joshua 10.12-13; 20* “On the day the Lord gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the Lord: 'Sun, *STAND STILL* over Gibeon, and you, moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.' So the *Sun* _STOOD STILL,_ and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies . . . So Joshua and the Israelites defeated them completely, but a few survivors managed to reach their fortified cities.”
RIP HITCH. A great man of great wisdom. 🇦🇺 😊
Something I have felt for a long time that Hitch expresses much better than I ever did. I can't make myself believe something because it might be convenient to do so.
Hitch made far more sense and was always more convincing than ANYONE he ever debated. He was on a level well above the folly and fear that drove others to the delusions of religious belief. He himself was a "god" amongst us. He was courageous.
Life is not a Disney movie. Life has its inconvenient and harsh truths. There are no safety blankets for atheists. And I don't need one.
You life is indeed more miserable and weaker oll into this empty worthless obsessive cult called atheism, no doubt about it. And God will judge you as well, do not think to escape.
@@Mar-dk3mpatheism isn’t a cult, you need to stop spreading that lie.
Also after realizing the lunacy and lies of religion. My life has become more meaningful and happier than you could ever hope to understand. You do well to remember that
Well said.
@@josephbelisle5792 😊
I've often said that atheists are simply those with the COURAGE to hold to rationality when analyzing our reality instead of needing an anxiety assuaging 'safety blanket' and a system which does our moral and intellectual thinking for us.
Freedom from religion has made my life so much more enjoyable and rewarding. Religion promotes guilt, shame, and fear to control the masses. We have space telescopes and science; we know better.
YES!!!!!
There are religious fundamentalists fuming, seething and cursing Christopher and rolling their eyes back after watching this video .This adds an extra layer of satisfaction and that makes a godless hellbound atheist , like me , happy.
Be careful there. Theists are gonna be saying that you’re spewing hate or that they didn’t do anything wrong
Happy now, cry for eternity! The man made religion is Islam. It is so violent and dangerous.
@@Theleaver5088who cares what they say?
@@martinurbani considering some held influential positions or have voting power, it does unfortunately matter
@@martinurbani Gullible, naïve and lonely sheeple.
There were actually a couple bits here I hadn’t heard before. Thank you.
Yes.. the Wonderful Truth is here...
What is true in this cesspool of atheist madness? What is your evidence?
@@JimCastleberry That religion was a first and ineffective attempt at an array of explanations about our environment and human condition.
That religion presumes certainty without even real support.
That every indication we can measure says our origins are humble and natural.
That the only real understand we have of our universe and ourselves has been hard won by brilliant people who didn't assume they already had the answer.
And of course it just goes on like this, in this video and countless others. What of this is madness to you?
@@valroniclehre193 You offer empty atheist speculation about religion as 'truth.' Pathetic.
Then you lie, claiming BELIEFS are 'CERTAINTY.' Beliefs are not held with factual certainty. Liar.
Are your certain that your lie is correct?
Then you lie claiming every indication is our originals are natural. In fact, that's not even possible. Science has proven that NATURE itself began to exist about 13.85 billion years ago. The cause of natural existence cannot be natural (the effect of the cause.
Boy that stupid is strong in you. You should be embarrassed. Your education has failed you.
@@valroniclehre193 Do you really believe low-grade UA-cam atheist propaganda videos are educating you?
That's like believing the baby pool will prepare you for Olympic swimming or Navy SEAL underwater demolition teams.
@@valroniclehre193 There is all kinds of evidence the Biblical creation story was wrong according to science. Genesis claims liquid oceans on earth before the creation of the sun on day 4 but the oceans would be frozen without the sun. Many, many other examples.
Theology + fascism = religion.
😂😂😂 Atheism - Obsessive empty cult not even good clean my ass
@@Mar-dk3mphow is atheism a cult? Who or what is the head of this cult?
fascism is an inherently anti-god political ideology, your reasoning is flawed
Don't forget superstition, power and control.
Decadence + narcissism = atheism
I miss Hitch and Carl Sagan
👍 it would be nice if there was a god looking out for me… there was once comfort in that. I choose to live in reality though.
But that’s like driving with an imaginary seatbelt. One crash and you’re a human projectile flying through the windshield and into a telephone pole.
You are correct but an important point relating to religion is we must restrict this ridiculous biblical notion of unlimited breeding, we are way over a level of breeding that is damaging to our existence.
Yes. "Go forth and multiply" is a strategy for tribal dominance through numbers. Yet, it is an ancient instinct still with us today. We must transcend it through emergent evolution: culture, science, reason, rule of law, good governance, intelligent planning etc.
The strongest, healthiest for individuals, socio-cultural constructs are those that enhance or compliment our inherited behavior, even to our detriment.
birth rates have gone below replacement in nearly every 1st world nation in the world. how much more do you want?
@@Shrimpsuey Yes, many advanced countries currently below replacement birth rate. An important statistic.
But there are many unknowns and confounding variables on how this will play out in the future. Somewhat random variables include:
1) Increase in meat consumption as many previously impoverished populations gain affluence. As affluence grows many want to participate in 'upscale' lifestyles including meat consumption. But animal agricultural sector is a heavy contributor to GHGs, even greater than from combined global transportation sector.
2) This point follows from the previous one: Could rising impacts of climate change act to impair global population growth at some point? (Meat consumption not the only factor here.)
3) Era of abundance of energy and labour as predicted by master prognosticator, Tony Seba and others. What will be the effect on birth rate if and when near zero cost renewable energy, robotic labour and AI are all in play? Of course, there is an optimistic version. But broad use of AI and robotics could also be a nightmare for displaced workers without income.
@@Shrimpsuey Yes birth rate is down in 1st world countries but it's doubling in 2nd world Eastern countries, and we are ending up with a lower educated mass of degenerates that are swamping our 1st world countries and dragging our countries down to their levels.
There are videos on YT, where individuals pretend being incapacitated to witness humanity at its finest. Bringing tears to my eyes.
But, I should want to be a part of a society, claiming to be the moral standard, in which leaders are looked up to, to no less than condemn your closest relatives and friends eternal damnation.
A moral standard?
Thx for posting this. LOVE Hitch but do not recall EVER seeing this before. Brilliant, as usual!
I love that quote Hitchens made in this video: "The sleep of reason brings madness". And I learned that it comes from a Goya etching. Powerful statement.
Thank you!
We lost a great mind, but with our modern technology Hitch will live forever, a feat Christians would be jealous of, if their conscious allowed it, when they die and nothing happens.
Hitchens was a forked tongued manipulator who got obliterated by Dr Craig in the facts, reason and evidence.
Your obsession with some dead atheist, womanizing drug addict is laughable.
you are bitter
@@Shrimpsuey The only bitter I tolerate is a bitter beer!
@@mirandahotspring4019 What I mean is that you mock and attack Christians for no reason.
@@mirandahotspring4019 Will you leave America when Trump wins?
RIP Hitch, missing you very much ❤
All these lectures need to be played loud on stereos in cars especially in public areas
At Friday prayers!
Thanks for this. When I listen to him I breathe more easily.
This man is one if not the best debater and defender of the truth that gods do not exist and are all man made.
Because religions are false. What is the purpose in following a false doctrine?
So people can feel better about themselves after forcing their singular ideology on you.
Why do you follow the false doctrine of atheism without the slightest evidence.
At least theists have evidence and reason on their side.
@@JimCastleberry Your entire statement is predicated on a false perspective. Atheism isn't a doctorine. It is a refusal to accept theistic claims and nothing more. It doesn't require evidence, only a failure to justify theism.
Also I hate to be pessemistic, but this evidence and reason for theism is really just misuse of scientific ideas, or philosophical word games. Sorry, but that's all I have seen.
@@JimCastleberry you're deluding yourself, wake up.
@@robgray2973 Did the chemicals cause that delusion in your soulless atheist cranium? Do your chemicals cause correct delusions. Idiocy is not a virtue Bob. Pull your head outta yo azz
Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position, but certainty is an absurd one. ~ Voltaire
Love this man & video! Well done
Religion had its place in human history. Humanity's acquired knowledge and wisdom has evolved from religion.
at 7 min piano song name?
Great video ❤
Yes we all need to adopt Buddhist style philosophy and learn to accept, we do not and more importantly CANNOT KNOW our origins and stop believing in mythical explanations, especially religions!
Buddhists think you can avoid reincarnation as a woman if you repeat a mantra daily
To treat all religion as a monolithic entity with phrases like "religion was our first attempt..." does a really nice job of muddying the water. There have been and continue to be many religions with varying focuses.
Yes, early religion grew out of an awe of nature, and a fear of ghosts. It led to many misunderstandings and disgusting practices, meant to appease the imagined god-of-the-gaps. But it also gave rise to the beginnings of morality. It shaped civilizations into what they are today.
I get this impression that if religion were a pre-teen, with all its emotionality and misunderstandings, Hitch would say kill it, little realizing that if allowed to mature into the promise of what it could be, it would be quite desirable.
Indeed
I have watched a lot of Hitchens, but this struck me as one of the best compilations.
First attempt at understanding our existence is oh so clearly what religion is. It's way past time to retire those primitive drafts of understanding.
Participating in religion is by far my biggest regret in life, causing more unhappiness than any malady.
Censorship. Funny how every time I try to mention certain religious groups in the Middle East, my comments disappear. Not just here, but all across the woke UA-cam platform.
I'm progressive scientific agnostic and I very often get the same. Civil, fact-based comments . . . poof. I even get comments like this one removed.
@@douglascutler1037 Every time I would like to bring up sites with statistics, data, numbers, got deleted. Woke culture is the censorship of democracy and an intellectual dictatorship
Theres a bug with comments. Sometimes they are hidden for no reason but not deleted
If you navigate to the thread manually, without clicking link in your notifications they'll still be there
Just delete and repost
@@drsatan3231 Interesting. I will try that next time. Thanks.
Not all religious people are fanatic weirdos. May Chris RIP.
But they do all hold false beliefs.
They can become fanatics.
One of the best speakers of our time. He is so missed.
The man makes perfect sense to me. I really wish that religion could.
('ー')/~~ This is an artistic proof of a created universe. When you paint a shadow it's the opposite color of the object that made the shadow. Nobody knew what the opposite color of white was so the artists avoided painting white on white. The opposite color of white is baby blue and baby pink. The first artist to figure it out was Norman Rockwell. I was the second artist to figure it out. I saw it in the corner of a white room. The lighting was perfect to see it.
The sleep of reason brings forth monsters would make a really good song lyric lol
People enthralled with Hitchens and other pro-Reason people are forgetting we already tried this philosophy of rationality; it was called the Enlightenment and it failed to include the fact that as humans we are never going to exist simply to express our logical reasoning. Which is one factor bringing about the ideas of Emerson and Thoreau. Hitchens, Dawkins and company leave me with the impression they all grew up watching the first Star Trek shows and thinking, "Gosh, that Mr. Spock is the way to go!" forgetting he was a fictional character.
ren't the heavens bueatiful, how humbling.
We are beings that labor under the illusion that our lives mean more than they really do. Many of us live under the assumption that the universe was created for us when the opposite is true, the universe created us.
I know I am not going to live forever and neither are you, but until my furlough here on earth is revoked, I shall elbow aside the established pieties and raise my tumbler 🥃 of Johnnie Walker Black to this giant of reason and critical thought.
Sorely missed today more than ever. 💐
Few inconvenient truths I would like to share. 1 Many of our greatest minds all agree that there is a supernatural intelligent force that created the universe and all the creatures great and small ,ourselves included. Life and the universe could NOT have been an accident THIS IS A SCIENTIFIC FACT. 2. there are two forms of most religions , Mans corrupted ,infected forms, and the original simple forms brought to use by the many great prophets , Buddha, Christ, Mohammed, Moses, Abraham , Baha'u'llah . As scientist Max Planck said' Any religion that is NOT the cause of LOVE and UNITY is NO RELIGION'.
When we die there is only an eternity of nothingness.
It's all about money and control ,just pay your money don't ask questions.
why is his brother on the other side of the religious fence..?
Childhood influences presumably.
R.I.P
I agree with all of this.
That's all I have to say.
Errors in reason arise from the idiosyncratic biases and preoccupations of individuals. Francis Bacon.
People like Dawkins and Hitchens are (were) enchanted by their intellects, their command of English and their ability to dazzle many people with written and (in Hitchen's case also) spoken English. Their crusade against stupid religious people is largely an endeavor to aggrandize their own enormous egos.
Jesus, Buddha, and all the major profets made a point of teaching how to gain wisdom by eliminating the ever destructive ego. Dawkins imagines that reverance for "scientific truth" will provide meaning for mankind. Hitchens was more down to earth; his comfort was - whiskey.
Thanks... now...do I send this link to my priestly brother? Or just le thim get through this life with his dreams intact?
Nothing can change the mind of people who willingly lives in delusions. Do you think in this age somebody can't find every information about religions to decide, if those are credible or not?
Abandon religion ...in favour of what did he say?
Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
What’s the song at the very end?
As usual, not a single argument presented. Arguments from incredulity, emotional appeals, and sophistry. Typical Hitchens.
hYhanks for straightening htat god thing out.
;-) The human body is burly, gnarly and surly like a fractal.
Reason is higher than some levels of irrationality, 'cause it lifts you up and out of them, to thrive in higher worlds. But like the light we see is a small range in the middle of a larger range of all that is, so too is reason, and there are levels of irrationality that are higher than reason, because they lift you up out of reason, to fly and to thrive in higher worlds. Religion is one ladder up and out. Awake, we see only the rainbow fog of heaven's dark flowing river. Reason is not an end in itself, but a stage on the path to enlightenment, like the stage of being in a protective egg; but, escape driven cracks complete the egg. Through direct perception of truth, one's fitness for action in this universe ceases.
Thankfully, people are returning to religion and not a moment too soon.
Why would anyone want to be part of make believe? Religion is terrible for people!
I agree with nearly everything Hitchens says, but one reservation. Sometimes he and those like him border on dogma themselves and are in danger of becoming, in effect just a new kind of religion
I miss the Chris!
8:20 "I can't believe something because it is merely convenient to do so"? This is a straw man. I've seen scores of Hitchens debates and nobody asks him or any of you to believe something on the sole basis of convenience. Why would we? For that is already your prime disposition. It is an established fact that children forsake their childhood faiths for personal independence particularly in the realms of sxxuality.
Maybe someone asked him that off camera, or in a letter or an email, maybe in a quick face to face meeting on a street somewhere, or in one of a million other plausible scenarios, making it not a straw man after all.
The arrogance to assume you’ve heard every question posed to him throughout his life is astounding!
He’s basically just describing ‘Pascal’s wager’ anyway.
@@norcodaev So do you concede then that I can summarize every at atheistic perspective by the worst one I’ve ever heard of?
@@martinmoffat5417 Yes, as head atheist, you have my permission. Even the worst atheistic perspective is still firmly rooted in reality better than the best theistic perspective. Up until the second that I’m writing this, there is still no empirical evidence for your supposed magic sky man, hence making your position objectively irrational and not aligning with reality.
@@norcodaev empirical, fair enough if you mean is he’s not entwined with a tree or a local. But once you get beyond that discipline the door swings wide open
@@martinmoffat5417 But that’s the thing, there is nothing beyond empirical. That’s it, that’s the standard. 🤷🏼♂️
Religion = Karen
Or Sharon
Or Tracey
The goat
But isn't society built on religious standards?
Which ones?
@@ga6589 Like the ideals of marriage, adultery bad, etc.
@@2010hyundaielantra Are you suggesting that there should be a religious standard built into our laws that would criminalize adultery?
@@ga6589 No dummy, i was saying that America is a Christian society built around Christian moral standards, it's a part of America's identity and it's very ingrained into our culture. take that out, what's left?
this is coming from a guy who takes pleasure in the misery of other human being. that is the hope he is offering to you.
Isnt religion just dunning-kruger effect?
Pity he past away. He and George Carlin gave the piss to religion. RIP MATES..
Hitch was fantastic at what he did. Like no one else. A remarkable legacy. I still love hearing him speak.
But it's too bad he wasn't also a health nut or he might still be alive. His habits of smoking and drinking are both significant risk factors for the esophageal cancer he died from.
@@douglascutler1037 Dealing with that amount of ignorance and lies require some solution, you know...
@@dorkception2012 He certainly did not waste the time he had. Intelligence and bravery in high measure put to best use. I think you could simply transcribe much of his commentary and publish it direct to print with almost no editing.
@@douglascutler1037 Funny that you can't find honest, intelligent people on the other side of the seesaw.
@@dorkception2012 All we can do is plant a few seeds and hope they grow. When you look at the stories of people who deconverted a lot of the times it was because of certain verses they had a hard time reconciling.
He now knows for certain whether he was right about religion and god.
If he was right he won't know anything and if he was wrong it was probably a pleasant surprise.
( ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ The universe was created in 1976. It is too hot to make a universe at the time of the big bang. It can be created at anytime. God is slow and easy. A human can do a lot with their lifespan. I got the hunk. God got the chunk. Everyone else can have the rest. That is song spirit of ''76 by The Alarm.
Anything tribe based has multitudes of flaws. 😂
the praying class make a nice living out of repeating stories from their holy books..could this be so wrong ?..amen
Matt 7:21-27 ‘Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord”, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only one who does the will of my Father in heaven. . . . Then I will declare to them, “I never knew you;"
Today's moral high ground should also include those who address the massive threat of man-made climate change along with the many millions who succumb every year to heart disease, cancer, emphysema and Alzheimer's from fossil fuel air pollution including from gas cars. (Is this polite enough?)
What is the point of your comment again?
@@dorkception2012 It's rhetorical, a reverse guilt-trip on Christians who otherwise post like they have a first-class ticket to heaven.
This is a very toned-down version. It often gets censored by FB when I use this argument in direct response to particular Christian posters. But it's civil tone, never any ad hominem, just a tough questioning of the soul's destiny based directly upon a modern interpretation of Jesus' own words.
@@douglascutler1037 Oh, my language barrier got hit me on the forehead again. Thanks for clarification.
Christopher's perfect words unfortunately fall on deaf ears when those ears are attached to the religious. The most powerful force known to mankind is not nuclear-power, but indoctrination. 🇦🇺🦘
So true!
40% of churches left in the West.
Biochemistry determines human nature.
Psychology understands human nature.
@@sathiahalya3003that actually true
Hitch believes in God now because he died and found out the hard way. Don't be like Hitch
That's just your belief
@@drsatan3231 it's not my belief it's reality. And do you really know who satan is for you to use that username? Coz satan also believes Jesus is God so how about you change it
@@Whatever-w9c What credible and verifiable evidence do you have that proves your claims that your god and satan exist?
@@Whatever-w9c you can't prove it's reality
It's just your belief that it is
If only he didn't become a right wing grifter at the end.
Does that changed anything about his arguments about religions thou?
@@dorkception2012 No. And since I'm gnostic when it comes to spelling, it is "though".
Hitchens: one of the most pompous, supercilious men to ever open their mouths. Making atheism fashionable to line his own pockets.
Christ is crap
Your consciousness was screaming but you dont heard because the head is so loud and the heart is mute you are just saying without knowing the conséquence of that
Facts about science, history of science and christianity:
Ancient greeks civilization has begun great and after few century from Pericles to Roman conquest ended miserabe in hedonistic society ( sounds familiär?)
Ancient greeks never created scientific method and scientific tools which provide stabitity and certainty over generations of scholars.
Ancient greeks were proved wrong by christian scholars from John Philoponus 5th century to Ptolemeus, wrong by Copernicus and Aristoteles who believed all motion come from internal proprieties of thing.That Was removed by Descartes " all motion come from God and there must be natural laws like moral laws eternal, unchangeable and universal. " Newton did find them.
Ancient greeks had no respect for manual work the secret of practical instinct and prosperity.
All modern societyand its rythmus and work were made in the christian monastery " ora and labora" including powered Tools and mechanical watch, becouse they needed time for pray and watch for timing.
Today , science is actualy mazetialistic ideology, which is utterly wrong: The Consciounesse is not just brain process- people who were born blind can see in NDE. The Consciounesse is not material origin.
Someone wrote "Theology+fascism=religion". 15 likes. Goes without saying these people are atheist. What is theology? What is fascism? What is religion? I know atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. What would be the future of atheism if atheists continue to refuse to ask for proof that the Quran was memorized? I want to know if the Quran was memorized or not. I want to know the truth. Why did you believe the Quran was memorized?. Theology is philosophy or rational thinking and fascism is the opposite, like religion, like atheism. Emergency. I am a poet and artist searching for beauty and tranquility in a horrible world. Thank you.
That's a strawman logical fallacy
Atheism is just a lack of belief in the existence of gods
(^_^)v Natural selection is the character flaw in evil that is integrity is more important than life otherwise evolution is tragic circumstances with nothing intelligent happening. Almost everyone survive until they reproduce. Nothing is getting selected except for the character flaw in evil. I found a replacement for the character flaw in evil that I liked but God makes me forget things that will cause me trouble.
Are you on drugs?
i disagree strongly. we cannot keep a brain alive in jar yet, but people want to say science has all the answers. that's my equivalent to him saying something doesn't exist if you can't prove it. and what i said means just as much as the dollar store words he used to make his point.
by the way, we skeptics. we are not skeptical of just one side of an argument. we are skeptical of both the one saying it is so, and the one saying it is not so. and we form our own opinions based around the notion that any ideas we form thereof in could be dead wrong.
What is the definition of science, again?
Wrong twice 😂
It is irrelevant whether one abandons religion or not. Because you cannot change the architecture of the Universe and God is part of that architecture!
Nope.
which gods do you think are part of the architecture? where are these gods now?
How would you tell if you were wrong?
All these atheists,who babble against religion in general,rant on the basis of false notions about religion.....religion,like everything else,must be understood intelligently.
@JennyLovesWillRiker Well,first of all you have to define the " mythical being " . That has been tried in different philosophical ways.
Secondly,nobody has to worship anything against his will.
Thirdly,there are other " mythical beings " that have been invented during the course of the ages.
Like the belief in nations, economics,national interest,all kinds of - isms,etc.... which have been equally destructive,if misused.And worthless as well.
Insight into reality takes regard of the fact that matter is only a part of reality.The supernatural is also a component of reality. But it cannot be explored by denigrating it.
I stick to my opinion that religion is not more destructive than anything else,IF UNDERSTOOD
INTELLIGENTLY.
@JennyLovesWillRiker Looks like you are easy to amuse....well,have fun.🤗 And think a little bit as well.....Look at all the different definitions of religion in philosophy,or even Wikipaedia.
Do you know the meaning of intelligence....?
@@irenehartlmayr8369 But it isn't real. Every assessment we can confirm says its just something made by people.
@@valroniclehre193 Well,WHY? Usually,things made by people are made for a purpose.
So what purpose could religion fulfil ? Obviously,it fulfils an innate need.All over the world and through the ages.
Like everything else,religion has to be used intelligently. And some of these uses are USEFUL.
Intelligently? That's what atheists do and you theists don't. If you took time to honestly think about religion, you'd become one of us.