The DREAM GameBoy Build! - DMG IPS Screen Mod
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
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Today we will be looking at the latest and greatest GameBoy mod - the DMG Original GameBoy IPS Screen. This mod is fresh off of the production line and hasn't been covered by many people yet. Thank you to Retro Modding for supplying me with these parts (NOT SPONSORED) and allowing me to get the newest mods to show you!
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"I love the fact it doesn't have any logos or text on them, it just makes the whole thing look overall more clean and minimalistic"
While true, it also makes it look like some chinese bootleg haha
If you’ve watched my channel for any amount of time you will know that I love my knock-offs! 😂
The Retro Future dude me too lol I think people kinda overexaggerate things when trying to knock on them. It’s pretty exciting when you’re buying and browsing the typical sites and scoring all of these super cheap electronics, and it’s a really exciting feeling once you’ve recieved them and you get to mess around with them. Most of them are nice and work great for what they are, ecspecially at how cheap we get them. Rather than the exact same tech, repackaged in a different casing and resold by companies here in the US/UK for 10x the price 😂🙄 not to mention with a ton of more restrictions put onto the device’s OS to prevent a lot of freedom the Chinese clones and gaming handhelds allow us to have lol
I agree, I think it made it look cheap without any branding.
@@Dominicn123 I love super cheap electronics, because I can play with it without fear. If I break it, oh well, I'm out $20, $30, $50. Once the price gets above $100, I get a lot more tentative about messing around with it.
While I do agree to an extent the lack of logos or patterning would make it great for custom painting it. God damn now I really wanna do that mod.
I agree with what people are saying. It's far too expensive. I do like the idea of not having to solder anything and just dropping it in with the pre-made kit though.
But it's a custom part that likely isn't going to turn a huge profit.
@@voidofspaceandtime4684 and yet there are other kits that cost significantly less for the same console and kits for other consoles like the GBC and GBA that can cost half the price. Largely this is because this quite a complex kit, with lots of parts. And that is the problem, this is an overly complex solution. There will be better options in the future.
@@edwardtcrump5312 Are you gonna provide sources for those kits? Cuz I would love to have more options for modding parts and stuff.
@@ShadeSlayer1911 I saw someone saying this is rebranded from China and I do find alot of gb modding shit on Chinese sites
Look like a nice display, but at the price they are selling the DIY version, I would have expected them to have corrected the colour palette issue.
I really liked the video, as always, and the new mod looks nice. But I do prefer the slightly less scripted format from previous vids. It allows more of your personality to show through, and it's only now that you are scripting a bit more that I realize that your personality is a huge reason why I enjoy your content.
And it shows he is a bad writer
No need to be rude Bob.
This was less of an entertainment video, more of a promotional video.
@@theonebegotten Says the guy with no content himself.
The only way he'll get better is practice. That being said, I didn't think this was bad at all. Elliot is especially impressive for how young he is. Watching this channel grow over this last year has been some of the most fun I've had on UA-cam in years. Seems like his content gets better every video. Let the kid experiment, it's his channel.
TLDR: Go fuck yourself, Bob. :)
@@S7ARBOY damn. He's impressive for being so young? At least I was straight up while you were patronizing
Man time to clean and retin your iron tip. It's basically allergic to solder right now.
doesn't help that its a USB soldering iron. They never work very well.
@@OkiDingo Looks like a ts80 which is an excellent 80w direct heat iron.
@@OkiDingo Used properly, it's fine for small solder jobs like that. It just has low mass, so can't handle larger jobs.
@@frac it's direct heat, it handles larger jobs for me better than my older Weller setup.
You don't need nearly as much thermal mass when your heater is directly in the tip itself vs a few CM up the shaft. As instead of being slow to respond to temperature changes, it's response becomes almost instant and it becomes an issue of power delivery which the ts80 is perfectly capable.
Will it replace my old 100W soldering gun for soldering chassis grounds and tie points, no of course not, but what started as a portable iron has now replaced my Weller station as the main iron I use. It makes xt-60 connectors a cinch to solder, my old Weller would struggle to keep the tip hot.
Sounds like my soldering iron.
Not sure what's more impressive... your soldering skills or the fact that you could cleanly film them. Well done.
It’s really magical how a bunch of little metal parts and few green and black pieces would FORM that.
I find the alignment issue to be a deal breaker for me actually. Even though it's only off a little bit, it would drive me crazy! That's all I would be thinking about. For that kind of money, it needs to be 100% aligned. I find that to be unacceptable. The alignment issue was the first thing I noticed when the new screen was revealed in this video, not how good it looked.
Then if you do want to do this, actually listen when you fit it, and do the extra step to align it properly. But that's not the point is it, you just like whining
@@desposyy his point, i guess, wasnt so much that it isnt aligned out of the box, but that it would be expected for a kit of that price to be aligned. if it was a 10$ kit, yeah sure, you can brush that off. but if it is an almost 100$ kit you would think they made sure it was aligned perfectly out of the box.
desposyy : It's people like you that are ruining youtube. I have every right to have an opinion, as do you, but keep your childish remarks to yourself.
Console5 sells a 3D printed bracket for like $5.
@@JeffCD77 it's a deal, you keep your childish ill informed comments to yourself and I won't reply to them.
And I remember when repairing a Gameboy screen meant pulling the screen apart to replace defective parts, and the best/only replacement was the backlight mod and bivert chip, or low quality LCD screens with the wrong aspect ratio or weird scaling.
This mod will make a great Christmas gift.
the design of the classic game boy will never die.
I just have to say I really enjoy your content and videos. I work with electronics all the time and I really like your work. The videos are well edited and scripted. I cannot wait until you have 500k
I put your channel on when I study because the music, your voice and content really helps me concentrate. Your channel is great! Keep it up.
thanks to your videos, I am taking on a half dozen DMGs as projects, doing some restorations with backlight biverts, and a shell swap with a TFT IPS. Still waiting on my parts, but can't wait to get started. Keep it up, you are teaching me so much.
Its actually a chinese product that RetroModding bought and resold for double the price. If you are whining that its "too expensive", go buy it from china for 50 bucks.
I don't live in US
if thats true thats an ugly story
Proof ?
There’s is nothing like seeing an old gameboy, that would otherwise gather dust, be brought back to life 👌
The "screen" is defined by software or hardware. The actual display is much larger than the original display, they are simply using the pixels they expect to see in the window. They should be able to move the screen area through firmware, possibly even allow you to move the virtual screen after install pretty easily.
It’s a pretty poor move from retro modding no matter how much you say “it’s not a big deal” but it kinda is when they’re charging £60 odd pounds for about a tenners worth of kit because we are involved in such a niche market! I love the work they do but can’t help feel that still paying the price of a working unit for a “faulty” one is poor
I mean, it's not like they are selling tens of thousands of thousands of models. They gotta make a buck too. Small market, less buyers, so the product needs to sell for more
Kai Brunk which is fine but when they make an error sell those parts at cost on the website and explain the issue with them! Don’t send them out in kits while charging full price? their sole market is small as you say so why shaft them! Good will gestures go a long long way
These kits should be sold cheaper I agree.
Omg thank you now i can save most of my dmgs!!!
I know it's super nitpicky, but I can't get over the "There is many benefits"
Thank you for the super clear and informative video! This is just what I needed - I recently ripped a pin off of my original DMG screen while attempting the backlight mod, so this mod is perfect for people like me who have damaged components. I just needed more info on how to fix the color palette, and you delivered! Cheers!
I love the fact that it can display green!
Your content has gotten so much better than just a few months ago, proud of ya!
I really don't think we've hit the sweet spot yet. We need modern, low resolution, monochrome replacement screen, which doesn't replace too much hardware, and is the same size as the original, without introducing any problems (such as the increased blur on the 3 inch screen). The ips screens are nice, but I don't think they suit the DMG and are a little overkill
i hate how overpriced those components are, but thats just how it is in a very niche market. imagine paying 80 dollars and still having to do soldering because you may or may not get a faulty one
Yeah and cut the traces, not good if you have a broken screen and want to keep the rest of your Gameboy as original as possible, hardly a drop in kit. Pay 80 pounds and still have to stab the mother board with a knife RIP DMG, goodbye vintage collectible/investment.
@@samscreativefarm you didn't actually watch it did you? Maybe you had the volume off? It's an early version, you won't have to do that with the newer revision. You only have to cut traces and do soldering because the people who made the first ones accidentally switched 2 pins. The newer ones fix the error. Besides, this is modding we're talking about so if you can't solder maybe you shouldn't mod... Or just learn to solder. It's really not that hard.
@@suicide19915 I did watch the whole thing, my comment references the cutting of the traces because I watched it. I was laughing at how it ruins the professionalism of the whole video.
@@samscreativefarm they sent it free as a gift and to probably clear the stock of misstraced boards with specific notice that they were not done right by the manufacturer... These people aren't companies, they're small time modders doing what we all love. If you don't want to "ruin vintage DMGs" just don't mod, this one is his and he likes it. If they sent me one I'd be glad to cut the traces and jump wires on one of the million DMGs I have... 🤗
@@suicide19915 You keep saying negative stuff like I can't solder and I shouldn't mod. I'm calling you out, I've looked at your channel and I don't see any mod videos, you don't seem very bright at all resorting to personal attacks that are groundless. You have no credibility, you are a troll. There isn't much that I am going to get out of replying to your messages. I am commenting on videos I watch to discuss with people who have an interesting point of view. Please if you reply again, come up with something relevant and original.
Don’t get me wrong there, while I love the idea, why does the screen look so much off Centre?
Michael Frank
I think because the screen cover is white.
Lucas Verrier Nah, it’s because of poor alignment. I really love all the progress around the IPS displays, but at that price I’d expect the Display to be aligned. I mean, it’s not that all DMG differ or so.. Also that pinout issue there.. *facepalm*. It feels like someone’s up to earn some money while the retro train is on full power, instead of delivering a polished product. I’m quite upset that RM even sells them at this quality.
Because they were using a different LCD initially, but switched to this one late on, so the tabs that go through the PCB aren't aligned for this LCD.
@@fraenker The display is aligned if you do it right. And the pinout, it's because they were testing with pokemon yellow and they did it so the palette makes pikachu yellow instead of pink. No excuse really, but that's why. It's not like RM made them.
he mentions why in the end of the video...
It’s beautiful man. The colors scream switch lite. Nintendo needs to get into this market
I’ve installed the same kityestersay, but from Console5.com, which comes with a 3D printed bracket. It doesn’t use the tabs nor any adhesive and is perfectly centered.
My only regrets are the palette problem (which is pretty easily fixable right now, ans should be fixed in the software anytime soon) and the fact that you have to stick with preset ones. There is no way to edit or create your custom palette. The included ones are OK, but I wish I could use softer tones for some.
But it’s still a GREAT improvement for our beloved old DMGs. I’ve been able to restore a broken one with this, but with a great bright new display, that works great, wether in the dark of the night or in the plain daylight
Same here, in The Chinese Guy video we saw a better green original pallete for example and in this kit the green one looks so shiny and fake... Hope a Rev2 came out to fix this and then I will be sold! And hope a GBP one release sometime soon
Gameboy aside, that's the best cup of tea I've seen in a long time lol
I love the light coloring of the shell. It is beautiful
That game with green screen from 8:04 reminds me Prince of Persia from like 25 years ago, oh boy what a game that was.
Agree with the pricing as mentioned below. Got the newer version of the ips screen without the crossed over grey colours on AliExpress for £44. Even states it’s the new one showing the difference in the grey
I did a polariser and bivert mod to my DMG, had to repair the display cable anyway, so made sense to do the mod 😊
Retro modding is the shit. I've got the 3" screen, I used it for a NES themed DMG. 👍👊👊🔥
@Wizzy Wambo I said "the shit" not "shit" so I'm not sure what you mean. If you mean the screen, it's great. I prefer it over the original. 😉
Great video, thanks again for another one. I just got their standard backlight and bivert chip to keep my first DMG as close to original as possible.
Every DMG Gameboy is your dream, Elliott
6:12 No that doesent improve anything. If you scale it up, you wont magicaly get more detail. Its like watching UA-cam on 240p settings on a 240p vs a 4K tv. It wont make look better. This is a fixed pixel display, so it wont get less blury.
not a fan of the shell but the ips screen is sure a lovely addition
man I always have and always will love your dmg mods man I'm one of your original subscribers what if you made a bluetooth gameboy?
Great Scott! Marty we're in the future
0:10 solder free
2:45 solder the speaker
still sayin oled would be the next step for this and the blacks on the screen would just be way better
I found "four players adapter DMG-07" in charity shop for 1£.
That's a super cool mod. Makes me kinda regret selling one of my spare gameboys the other week.
I know e-paper displays aren't quite fast enough, yet, but I truly think the ultimate upgrade for the DMG would be an e-paper screen. Even as they are, in what is called "A2 mode" on a lot of ereaders and tablets, they just get a little bit of dirty-looking ghosting the longer they run, but that MIGHT be acceptable in some cases.
I still feel unbelievably cheated by Qualcomm giving up on Mirasol displays. Those things were definitely the future...
Woah! Amazing work as always! Love seeing these videos!
Ps. How was your chickensoup?
Seems like the kit requires a ton of extra fixes. Why did they mold the shell to not be able to fit the screen? Rather than snipping off and sanding all those extra bits it seems like it'd make more sense to simply not mold them. I guess if you already need to solder in the speaker, soldering some extra wired to fix the color isn't a massive issue, but I shouldn't have to pay for what is basically a defective kit. They should be charging less until the issue is resolved.
Just got my first pocket 2 days ago and a new shell for my old color. I think I’ve already put 4+ hours into Tetris already.
Get pokemon crystal, mega man, red and you'll be playing for days
yup I got red and I’m hopefully getting crystal in a few weeks.
@@jaxsonbarry947 I'm going to get crystal vc so I can shiny hunt suicine, shiny hunting is a great way to slow your playthrough down so you can get more out of the game ;)
yup agreed
You bring to mind an alternate universe where Harry Potter didnt get his letter to Hogwarts and got into retro modding. Although he doesn't realize it he's using magic to make his beautiful mods.
This was very satisfying to watch, thank you
This was cool to watch and I like the quick fix. It makes me wonder how far people have gone with there gameboys
What has everyone’s experience been with retro modding lately? I’ve had a couple of order placed with them nearly two weeks ago and they have yet to ship. Is this normal for them?
It's not. They're usually incredibly quick. They've been experiencing quite a bit of difficulties lately, including problems with customs/ border issues. I think they put a notice up on their website to currently expect delays because of this, but normally, they're absolutely great. Just a bump in the road for now it seems.
I also placed an order over two weeks ago and it hasn’t shipped. Something is up because my last order came very quick.
I'm in the same boat, but their customer service is very helpful and quick to respond. Please be patient with them while they churn through their backlog!
You haven't ordered a pre cut case have you? They take 4 weeks to do.
I actually received my package a few hours ago. I didn’t have any shells trimmed, it just took a couple weeks. I do want to emphasize that I really like Retro Modding, and my items were good quality and professionally packaged. I made the mistake of buying this kit from Handheld Legend on day one, and they were charging $75 usd. It was already shipped before makho made these videos. Besides the price, the worst is that they haven’t even addressed the palette issue. There is a confusing sentence in the description like they were going to link to a tutorial, but it offers no explanation. Retro Modding waited until they at least created a fix and a mounting bracket, and then released it to the public. That’s a very respectable business in my opinion.
Wow what a beautiful mod I'll wait for the newer revision kits to come out.Im not good at bridging thx Elliot love the vids mate :)
who else wants more walkman videos
i love these ones tooo
dont get it twisted
The angles are so perfect.
I prefer the bivert backlit screen mod. It keeps the more classic feel while still being superior to the original.
It looks literally nothing like the original or having a "classic" feel, it's just a gaudy mess.
wake me up when they make an IPS screen replacement that's at least as large as the original display.
@Andrew Pingwin go start a company
Time to wake up
Please at least watch the video
@Andrew Pingwin do more than just complain, make the money
I love these game boys
Love that color combo
Love your channel! Been watching for quite a while now and would be really interested in getting into restoration myself thanks to you. How'd you get into it? I don't know if anyone else would be interested in watching a video where you tell about it but I'd really love to hear your story. ☺️
I cried with happiness, it's beautiful
I like programming for the GBA! Minecraft and Zelda and goldeneye :)
what happened to solder free ??? got to solder the speaker lol
If you buy their pre built mod. As I said.
@@TheRetroFuture yah sorry about that i stopped watching the video,no fault of yours, i love your videos but gb mod videos are getting a little boring, i hope you will do more different console videos,cheers keep up the good work.
Well I think that this mod losses totally the charm of a DMG, I mean, the screen based on the primal LCD technology is what defined the first Gameboy, this just took away that felling, you can simply emulate the system on a Android device and get the same result, in my opinion, the perfect mod for a DMG is the bivert backlight.
Nah, I understand what you mean but you’re just looking at this in the wrong way lol. This product is just another modification like the bivert Ed backlight that is meant to be an enhancement, you’re using original hardware and everything to power it, and it compliments one another. It literally is a product that modernizes the classic DMG. I have no qualms about emulating and enjoy doing it for some systems, but emulating game boy is one that I avoid due to the feeling. Playing it on PSP or android devices just never “feels” good, because of the image never fully feeling good enough. The pixels distort in ways where they’re washed out or don’t align right. This mod and the others however don’t mess with that
exactly. This mod just makes the DMG just another one of the 10,000 handheld systems with IPS screens that you can emulate Game boy games on. The pea soup green, crappy LCD DMG screen is iconic. You can emulate the games, but you can't emulate that old technology.
@@Dominicn123 don't misunderstandme, I know this is an enhancement in order to make the experience more enjoyable, i'm just telling that, in my opinion, this totally looses the charm of the original experience. I think is totally about perspective, i mean, classic Gameboy is a machine that i enjoy emulating the most because due to this is one of the simplest machine (besides ZX spectrum), is one of the most accurate emulations that's to the great effort of the scene, if you know how to set the proper aspect ratio, the right scale of pixels and even the right overlay, you'll get a petty similar experience like a DMG with this mod, not perfect, but really close and almost nobody will find a difference. Again,is just my opinion, i'll ever prefer the original screen with a backlight over this expensive mods or in last case or even emulation.
It might be expensive but come on-
he did it for us :)
uuhggg i just thought that one before was THE ultimate screen to mod, now I have to buy this one to replace THE other screen lol that I have ordered.
congraturation you just made yourself a Chinese knockoff.
(Yes the misspelling was intentional, hecc off)
I think that it is still not 100% perfect... but it can definitely get there... (my idea of it being 100% perfect is not having to cut the original shell, have backlight, have high resolution, and have the original screen size....) I don’t mind soldering too much, as long as I don’t have to scrape away at the board to get to the traces... either wise, I think it is a decent mod for the time being👍. Good job RetroModding👌!
Don't think its possible since getting a direct screen replacement is impossible unless they pay someone to manufacture one, and with a minimum order of thousands units and all the costs involved they will not make a profit and will have to charge $200 for a direct drop in.
The screen they are using are probably cheap generic and mass produced lcd screens so cheaper option to do it this way.
Like you I dont want to cut into my original dmg case.
TN_AU ahhh.... I see.... still think it would be really awesome to not modify the original case tho...
Nice build👍,
Inspired me to go back and rebuild a couple of gbc's thats currently a work in progress.
Holy shit it's Snake Roy!
I might be wrong from the shots in the video, but the pixels on the new screen looked rectangular to the naked eye. That is going to mess with image accuracy at least a bit. Hard to say since I am not familiar with the games you were demoing.
I suppose the only big question I would have that isn't addressed in the video would be battery life. The OG Game Boy's big claim to fame was how ridiculously long the batteries lasted compared to competitors such as the Game Gear, and a big portion of that was due to the screen used. The Game Gear had a full-color screen and would eat through six batteries in a span of three hours as a result. The Game Boy used the lower-quality black-and-white screen to compensate, and had much better battery life in the range of 8 to 12 hours as a result. Since you're replacing the screen with a newer model with more features such as a colored backlight, what does that do to the battery life, since the rest of the system wasn't designed with those added features in mind?
Great gadget bro,keep the good work,Regards Hacktuber 1.3m subs
I wish the screen was bigger. It really looks like so much more can be done
Nice mod and I just adore that marsmello look. You could make video about battery life test with these screen modded Gameboys compared to the original. I'm curious to know how such screen affects the battery life.
The Mods are nice but I've always wondered if theres somewhere that does like for like restoration parts rather than mods avalible in the UK, so far its only been the Lens I've managed as my yellow DMG has some screen rot and worn decals.
I've got so many ways to play the games in better resolutions and colour but it'd be nice to play them as the way I remember from time to time.
Does the prebuilt kit come with speakers soldered on already too? Because you first soldered with that, not the weird screen color issue.
It being horribly misaligned is a big issue too, except it doesn't even have the usual alignment menu to offset the pixels, odd when the screen is so much larger than the hole it fills, so it could easily adjust...
I got the courage to Backlight my GBP after watching your vids! Reason I aced it on my first attempt! :D I really wanna import some GBs from Japan, haven’t pulled the trigger cause I don’t know what other fees I’d have to pay >o< Keep cranking out the vids amazing work!!!
my DMG has a bad screen, so an IPS mod would work great for it.
You have a new intro... WOW!!!! Looks nice!
Maybe it's only a matter of time until there will be amoled displays for retro handhelds? Would be a sight to see!
Is there an IPS screen mod for a Gameboy Pocket that gave you a larger screen (pretty much reduces bezel sizes to thin slivers) in addition to quadrupling the pixel count of the original screen?
I find this channel fascinating and loved the content but why does it seem like everything is a Retro Modding advertisement now?
Because they are giving me expensive mods to showcase for you guys. I can’t always afford to buy the latest stuff all of the time. So I am thankful. I’m not sponsored by them.
Doesn’t matter, that site has great products that helped me decide on what to buy, there’s plenty of modding items I find that I wish there were good videos about them that I could watch before I purchase them, this guy does that perfectly. He has his own opinions and doesn’t act as if they’re flawless or only in their interest at all, so there is literally nothing wrong with the format lol
Waaaaay too expensive.
its 69$ nice price
Don't get why people do mods this expensive for the original game boy and not the gameboy advance. Heck you can just buy a GBA SP AGS-101 for less.
I get why it is so expensive, because of the additional board with the custom silicon to get the colours/brightness & probably because the production run is much smaller because the appeal of the DMG is smaller than an AGB/AGS... so yeah it's a hard sell for most people but then most people will be happy with a cheaper modded GBA, this is just for the DMG enthusiast.
@@BenWillock that's not the reason, for example I sell these kits for about 55$ right now, maybe a bit more in the future when I have my own spacers but no more than 60$😉
Same price as any other screen mod like it.
tuto mode are also nice to watch, thanks
1:38 and a partridge in a pear tree
Holy crap that thing is awesome.
Awesome build buddy!
its been exactly a year since this video has released
This is what the original gameboy should,ve been.
Beautiful color scheme. I'd like a GBA SP in those colors, or a DS Lite.
So I want to do this with lighted buttons. Is there anywhere off the new board to pull power from? Previously I pulled it from the same place the other DMG backlights pull from.
I’m probably never gonna do any thing but still great job
Fun to watch these console get restored
Best Screen Ever
Hi! I have the same soldering iron, but I have problems to get the solder stick to the tips... it is really a problem in usage. I always have to renew the tip with "Tippy". I use solder without lead, coud this be the reason? Do you use solder containing lead?
And by the way, great things that you do ;-) I modded my childhood DMG with a backlight with retro look (no bivert). I found out, that you can get more contrast by rotating the polarizing film. This in addition to a warm white led gets you the standard retro look though it is illuminated. And I modded some Advance mit IPS v2. The Advance I first got to know about one year ago now is my favourite retro console/handheld.
Hello mate great videos
I would love to mod my own GBC and GBA both Matt black with white buttons. Unfortunately they are in storage atm but will definitely be given them ago. Cant get enough of your content keep up with the great work 👍
Nice review by the way! To the point and it shows very well what to do.
I want this SO BADLY!
I recently bought a decent condition limited edition pokemon gameboy color the one that is silver but can also be gold at certain angles The lens is has medium scratches so I bought another pokemon lens and compressed air And I heard some people still have dust after compressed air is there a way to make sure that doesnt happen