If you live a nomad life, there's no concrete history. I understand this since my ancestors were nomads too. I'm a modern nomad with shallow roots at every place. Dont stay too long and need to move again for so many reasons.
Paul was confirmed by the disciples and eyewitnesses of the lord, something Muhammad can only dream of. Paul > Muhammad. The difference is christians like paul spread the word through mission, Muhammad ordered the killing of apostates and people who used to critzise his pagan fairy tale 🤷🏻♂️
Can we narrow down the time when mecca was actually established. When maps were invented mecca should be on EVERY map being the first city and ALL other towns came later. This city is the downfall of the counterfeit religion JESUS warned us all about ..... I can't get enough of these highly educational videos KEEP IT COMING DOCTOR SMITH AND DOCTOR AL-Fadi 🙂🙂🙂
Mecca is mentioned once in the Quran, the earliest written text of which has been radiocarbon dated to the early 7th Century. There was a rock inscription in Saudi Arabia (now defaced, but readable from at least one photograph) which contains a date reference commemorating the (re-)building of the Kaaba, 697AD. But it wasn't until 741AD until Mecca first appears on any map, one hundred years after its first literary reference. In my opinion, Mecca refers to Makkaraba in Yemen, but a shrine (Kaaba) was built towards the end of the 7th Century in the location we now know as Mecca. Within a few decades it would have become a settlement large enough and important enough to appear on maps.
The biggest nail in islam's coffin is that Archaeology has shown that the children of Abraham worshipped YHWH (He-Waw-He-Yodh in their right to left script and not LLH (He-Lamedh-Lamedh). There is no "Allah" anywhere.
@@chrishoff402 The Qur'an is the earliest dated reference to Mecca. So long as the dating is reliable, we can point to there being a place called Mecca in the early 600s AD. Rock inscription(s) near Mecca tell us that there was a Kaaba in Mecca at the end of the 7th Century. None of this is speculative: just the facts. 741 AD is the first time Mecca's location had been recorded on a map (which suggests that it was an established, permanent settlement by that time). However, before c.600 AD, there is no mention of Mecca at all. Mecca certainly isn't as ancient as Islamic history would suggest.
@@gavinjames1145 No water in Mecca apart from one well that can only keep alive a few hundred people and animals at best. Soil too rocky for growing anything. There was a princess/Arabian Queen who went to great expense to have two aquaducts deliver water from the mountains to Mecca in the 8th century, so technically they make one of the oldest historical structures in the place. Apart from that and the Kaaba, there's an Ottoman fort.
Why did the biological father of Jesus let him die on the cross? Why couldn't he appear when the bastrd screaming for help in pain?? Why can't the so-called God or his son manage to convince the authorities with the stupid message that influenced some Greeks after four decades of crucifixion and hundreds or miles away from the supposed Bethlehem ???
@@defenderoftruth3212 The Quran is not a scripture. It's a fabrication of Muhammed expressing his mere ideas, his mere opinions, his mere imaginations, his mere concoctions, his mere conjectures. Read your Hadith and understand what's in it.
Here is a little detail that will strengthen your conslusion. As pointed out in "The Byzantine-Arabic Chronicle: Full Translation and Analysis" by Aymenn Jawad Al-Tamimi the chronicle appear to have been finished during the reign of Al-Walid II (743-744 CE) and not in 741 CE during the reign of Hisham.
@@defenderoftruth3212 yeah sure.. The one who wrote and speaks arabic quran is muhammad the arab… Do you really believe that a god like allah is capable of speaking arabic like a human being muhammad??? That is very suspicious
MECCA IN THE QURAN & IN THE BIBLE: Mecca aka Bakkah in the Quran aka Baka in the Bible is mentioned in Psalm 84 as well as the House of God (Bayt Allah) or the Ka'aba. This Psalm was supposed to have been composed by David, so 'the house of God' mentioned in this Psalm could not be the 'temple' of Solomon. David's place of worship was the tabernacle tent which was never known as Bayt Alah (Allah). The tabernacle tent was known as (מִשְׁכַּן יְהוָה) mishkan Yhwh meaning the dwelling place of Yhwh (Numbers 16:9, 17:13, 19:13, 31:30, 1 Kings 2:28, 1 Chron 16:39 etc.). Bayt Allah is another name for the Kaaba. According to Wiki: " It ( the kaaba) is considered by Muslims to be the Bayt Allah (Arabic: بَيْت ٱللَّٰه, lit. 'House of God').. The Psalm describes the journey of the pilgrims returning to Jerusalem from Bakkah/Baka where they visited the "house (בַּיִת) of Alah (אלֹהָֽ) in verses 3 & 4 which is (بيت اللّه) or Bayt Allah in Arabic.The Judeans would be very aware of Baka as Ishmaelites are mentioned as near kin and trading partners (Gen 37:25) throughout the Old Testament. Merchants from the Kingdom of Judah would have made the trip to Baka to trade and to worship at the Ka'aba, a common practice of all those who traded with the Bakkans aka Meccans. According to Psalm 84: 1-7: How lovely is your dwelling place, Lord Almighty! 2 My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the Lord; my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God (אֵֽל־חָֽי). [Al-Hy in Hebrew means the Living God. In Arabic, the name is Al Hyy (الْحَيُّ) and it means the Living (God)]. 3 Even the sparrow has found a home, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may have her young- a place near your altar, Lord Almighty, my King and my God (אלֹהָֽ). (God is spelled Alah in Hebrew or Allah in Arabic) 4 Blessed are those who dwell in your house (בַּיִת); (Bayt means 'house' in Hebrew and Arabic. Here is the mention of Bayt Allah or the Ka'aba) they are ever praising you.[c] 5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you, whose hearts are set on pilgrimage. (The pilgrimage is the Muslim Hajj or the once in a lifetime trip to the Ka'aba) 6 As they pass through the Valley of Baka, they regard it as a well (מַעְיָן ) (Zam Zam is the famous ayin or well in Bakkah/Mecca) the autumn rains also cover it with pools.[d] 7 They go from strength to strength, till each appears before God in Zion. Also listed in this Psalm are other facts specific to Baka/Bakkah/Mecca as the location of Bakkah (Mecca) in a valley and the seasonal rains which caused the water to stream from the mountains and pool in areas where plants as date palms grew. The ancient name for Mecca or Bakkah in the Quran, derives from the word to weep, but it does not refer to mourning or lamentation. According to Strong's, the Hebrew word Baka derives from the root 'bakah' (בָּכָה). The Arabic retains the original spelling of the word as (بَكَّةُ ) Bakkah. The word Baka/Bakkah refers to the 'ayn', the well of Zam Zam. The Arabic word, ayn (عين), has many meanings among which are eye and well. Similarly, according to Strong's, the Hebrew word for well 'mayain' (מַעְיָן) derives from the word ayin (עַיִן) which means eye as well as well or fountain. Zam Zam was and is fed by a flowing underground stream which means the ayn (well) is weeping or is fed by running water. Running water meant clean water as opposed to stagnant water. The AKJ translates verse 6 as "Who passing through the valley of Baca make it a well; the rain also filleth the pools." The word 'make' (שִׁית) should be translated as 'consider it a well' as this is one of the many meanings proposed by Strong's. The obvious conclusion is that Psalm 84 Is referring to Mecca aka Bakkah, the location of Bayt Allah, the well, and the goal of many pilgrims on pilgrimage to this ancient shrine built by Abraham according to the Quran and honored by David in Psalm 84.
Arabs didn’t start having written records until much later than other civilizations. They only kept oral traditions and only really started keeping writings after Islamic civilization. There was no reason for non-Arabs like Greeks, Romans or Persians to go out to the middle of the desert.. it was a very harsh travel and there were no resources worth claiming. It was only of religious significance for Arab people.
@@gloshjanny3453 Give me one verse where jesus says he's god and worship me. You can't, the moment you realise your religion was overtaken by "saint" Paul who was part of the Roman Empire government, that used religion to control people, just as it is used now by all religions without exception. The difference is, some use it now to brainwash people in the middle east, but the book is intact, your bible is not a book, it's a LIBRARY like a wall status of Facebook and all ur friends posting there how they felt based on what "saint" Paul, who has never met Jesus by the way, told you guys what Jesus said and how he acted.
@@MrKaplan1 if you read and understand your so called quoran you see you pray asking God to show you the right way if we say Jesus is the way you don't believe so continue asking for the way.the bible says Jesus is the way, true and the light it's only through Jesus that one i'i see the kingdom of God 🙏💖🙏 thank God I'm not doomed and I know the way truth and light that is Jesus I don't go looking for him but follow his reaching.
The Roman send ,in about 350-370 after Christ their gouvenors ambassadors, to see if trade was possible.they made the cost maps but never spoke 1 word of Mecca. Did you ask Milo?
@@defenderoftruth3212 ironically, your truth is skin deep. You must have read the quran and it's lies are rooted well in your minds. Still you couldn't understand the two covenantal relationship amg the books of the Bible. And still you cant defend the quran without lies. The quran is the master piece of all that you claimed against the bible, without any remorse. Do you realize the modern twist of Allah's wisdom about scientific discoveries that don't fit the olden scriptures? Worst, the muslims ended up worshipping a rock seated in dark black cube in a barren dry land. That's a banished god from the True, Living God who walked with the people of Israel, beginning with Abraham. The covenant with Abraham is the beginning of our faith into eternal salvation. What does Muhd know about Abraham's God????
lame logic. THEY are the witnesses of what they come to know. They died for their belief and faith. As for you, you're just a basher n trasher..... Nothing educated about that.... Reading the quran n bible from cover to cover. Even a parrot can be trained to recite the quran. Many muslims can read their quran excellently. I expect a scholarship that recognise both human and divine understanding of human history... You have no such knowledge. To the disbelievers, nothing can convince you to hear and follow the Lord. Instead you are the persecutors and accusers just as your father, the devil who is the Liar and the Deceiver. To those who believe, they recognise the Voice of God and repent. Come Holy Spirit, come. 🕊️💛✝️
@@defenderoftruth3212 i love this comment. I am Jewish and only follow the 5 books of Moses. Your understanding and Intellect is guiding you correctly! Everything you said about Islam and Christianity is spot on!
The old name of Mecca is Bakka which is mentioned by David in his Psalm 84 after his pilgrimmage to Bakka house of god Bethel which is Kaaba other name baitullah or bethel in Bible Abraham visit to Bethel when there was no City there yet but desert of Zion. Calcified white Mountains near Bakka is mountains of pharan mentioned also in bible especially mount pharan or mount Zion where Psalm 84 mentioned the man from bekka will see God at end of Psalm 84. Mount Sela in madinah is also mentioned in Isaiah as the place of the new song to the Lord where qedar tribe lived. Qedar is the second son of Ishmael while nabit or Nebioth the first son lived his progeny in the deserts of Syria or Aram according to the biblical book of jasser! Pharan mentioned by Habakkuk 2 1 and Moses “ god order came from mount Horeb and shines up in mount saer and flash over mount pharan this is reference to Moses Horeb Jesus Saer mount of olives and Mohammad mount pharan near Mecca where Mohammad was initiated by angel Gabriel a prophet at age 40. Adam Mofet specialist in biblical Hebrew using Arabic
Do you know a bit of geography man ?. Have ever you seen a compass and scale in your life ?.? Do not force geographical location near Israel in Saudi Arabia idiot All your rubbish renderings have been debunked long ago Your prominent apologists do not dare to debate this subject with Christian’s scholars! Where was the House-of Yahweh in the valley of Bakka ?? In your dreams ?
@@satmat6566The problem is that you're arguing with someone without the knowledge needed to do so. He mentioned that the Kaaba is also called baitullah. Bait= House, Allah- God. It literally means the same as House of Yahweh as you mentioned. These are transliterations, so don't bother quibbling over baitullah/ bait Allah. It's in Arabic, and we're spelling out the pronunciation in English. You're also depending on maps drawn by people who never visited those places in person. Imagine the extent of the conspiracy necessary to fabricate a center of trade well known across Asia and the Middle East, where wars were fought, where hundreds of eye witness accounts were given of the wars and festivals, where several tribes claim as their homeland, etc. There are people who claim that Jesus, peace be upon him, never existed, and they claim to have historical evidence as well. Some people will twist anything to support their wishes.
And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. Genesis 17:20……….. Who is this Great nation? Jews are from Moses Christines our from Jesus Then Ishmael and his descendent Mohammed?? Moses’ Final Blessing on Israel 33 This is the blessing with which Moses ythe man of God blessed the people of Israel before his death. 2 He said, “The Lord came from Sinai (Jews) and dawned from Seir upon us (Christian’s); he shone forth from Mount Paran (muslims); Mount Paran is in Makkah Deuteronomy 33 19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet.20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem. 21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. John 4:19-21 NIV …… 5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you, whose hearts are set on pilgrimage. 6 As they pass through the Valley of Baka, Psalm 84 (NIV)……….. Valley of Baka pilgrimage search Makkah pilgrimage Islam
@@WinterChristmas-l7x I gave you examples if you want to search go search but for example you want to see the light but you close your eyes you will never see the light if you’re arrogant good luck with you were here to give you the message if you don’t like it it’s not a problem
@@abrandpluckedoutofthefire8043 Who wrote that Christine lol there are more than 45,000 denominations globally have your book across the world, where did he get his information from? I couldn’t possibly be Allah said :(So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn) Al-Baqara. verse 79. Wouldn’t I ask Christine about his Bible? Yeah, I’m and I would ask a Muslim about his Quran. That’s why God gave us a intellect, so we could find out the truth from the falsehood the problem is your to prideful to examine your mistakes. Even your Christian leaders, told you about the council of Nicaea, where they chose and picked out versus .😂 And if you really know the culture of Arab people, you would know they’re attached to their bloodline. They know there. Great great great father because a Christine told you that wasn’t from the bad line. Yes we believe you but blindly 😂 We have the bloodline of the aircraft that if you want to find out the truth
@defenderoftruth3212 never once addresses the videos subject matter. He simply reposts the same deceptive questions over and over, regurgitating his Taqiyya.
Muslims don't access the free gift of the Holy Spirit. It's a personal relationship. Jesus broke the curse. Just claim it. You can know it's true in YOUR spirit.
The Bible/Torah/Koran books were not handed to mankind by any gods nor were they dictated to human stenographers by any gods, all written by men! The Olden Testes Bible/Torah were just fables from the Stone Ages by oral tradition... the Bible, a book of fables, was VOTED on by a group of men after the 4th century; the Koran was just the copied and demented dogma of a selfish and petty violent despot.... There are no gods [btw - any objections to these historical facts must be accompanied with evidence to prove the existence of any gods claimed]
Appeal to Ignorance/Argument From Ignorance Fallacy at its finest. Never change, boys. Never change. Allah has blessed us to have detractors of such "high" caliber lol.
Muslim don't need map for Mecca fir at has existed from time if Abraham 2000 BC. When Abraham blessed with Issac the family then rejected Ishmael and Hagar and God asked Abraham to move them to Bakka now Mecca.
So what? Ottomans knew about it, built a railroad to that city. Nobody knew about Jesus if Josephus did not write about him. Noah lived for 1000 years while is the earth is exactly 6000 years old? How are you related to Noah?
@@grandoldpartisan8170 I already know thank you ! I think they got a new name in the middel age ! It must be that way because when you do a deep dive into Islam you can see that Islam teaches directly the opposite of Christanity ! There are so many points it is fishy !
@@graceland395 it is the same argument that mecca never existed . eventhough we have physical proof that it did on the other hand we dont have jesus grave
@@mhamedkhattabi5863 Mecca was not on any map of old. Meaning, it is a recent creation. Or was just a hamlet that was given a bogus status. Jesus was a human, Mecca was a city. No basis to compare. Or if we want to compare, the basis wont be same.
There is a big difference between *no evidence that something existed* and *someone not believing* that someone existed. Both early Christian *and non-Christian* sources talk about Jesus. Mecca is in the "no evidence" category whereas Jesus is not.
O' יהוה and יהושע and רוח קודש Bless Alfadi and his family and all of us and our families and protect us from the Rabid dogs of Satan and the followers of the cult of Islam help us to esteem you and please you in our thoughts words and actions Amĕn Maranatha
@@defenderoftruth3212 what a Loser you are too Long winded stubbornly believing in the lies and deception of the Satanic cult of Islam may YaHuWaH Elohim have compassion on you and lift the veil of your blindness
Quran proved was our past messenger of god, they came in the world for people also you are believe for them messenger, so why we are discuss about this, if wrong today that's mean same as wrong past
@@WinterChristmas-l7x If he is arrested of stealing money i think he is in Jail now,Common sense not just keep on talking,Zakir naik is in Qatar and many more reverted to Islam💕🙂
It is sad,,,that people are following this false religion of Islam, whereas the Bible warned of this in Galatians 1:8-9... Mohammed should have read this verse atfer all he was married to a Catholic Nun Khadija.
@cd kablan 1 JOHN 4:15 Whoever shall confess Jesus is the Son of God, God dwells in him, and he in God. JOHN 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Read the Bible,you will find out the truth and you will be set free,no need to die in your sins.A just and fair God must punish sin,not even a human judge can look at your past good deeds and dismiss your one bad deed.That notion was taken from Egyptian mythology of Osiris/Anubis , measuring good deeds and bad deeds,such gods don't exist and believing such is a sacrilege. 1 JOHN 5:7 For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one.
@cd kablan no one has seen God the Father,but only the Son.Even Moses saw the pre-incarnated Jesus Christ.It will be good if you take your time to read the all of Old Testament to understand the New Testament and reason for yourself, stop arguing with how you are taught,think for yourself brother.
@cd kablan my brother, you are nice but not smart.I implore you to read the Bible and ask God for the Spirit of Truth, to reveal to you the truth and mysteries of God.I advice you to read the Bible as a child, who doesn't know anything yet.especially Galatians 4... good Sabbath bro.
@cd kablan please read King James Version, not those Jesuit Versions!!!The devil is subtle and very hardworking in discrediting God's word and bringing confusion to deceive the perishing.
do you sanctify yourself?Do you go to Mecca and surround Kaaba?Do you venerate dead people like Muhammad?Do you kiss Blackstone to purge your sins?Do you eat camel meat?Do you practice pedophile?Do you kill house lizard to get blessing?Do you believe ants speaking?Do you believe Abraham and Ishmael time travelled to build Kaaba?Do you believe God asked Lucifer to worship a man?Do you believe God created the world in two days and also created the earth before heavens ?Do you believe that in heaven you will have sex?Do you believe that you will enter heaven with your sin?Do you believe in jinnies?Do you approve of polygamy?Do you approve of racism?Do you think that Mecca was the first city,yet not found in alI of the ancient maps.!!!all of this is your beliefs then you are lost as ever.
Where in the Bible does Jesus say ' I AM GOD', or ' WORSHIP ME ' ? We destroyed all your arguments through Ahmad Deedat and Dr Zakir Naik. People are just ignorant amd blind to the TRUTH.
There are plenty of verses in the gospel that claims that Jesus is God, just try reading the book of john.. Also why so specific ''I am God'' or ''Worship me'' does it have to be in these exact words? If yes that is rather unfair, and I could do the same thing to you and say, WHERE DOES THE QURAN STATE THAT ''THE BIBLE IS CORRUPT?''.
@@prinzmohammad4171I am not an expert in Christian theology, but in the trinity the father is God as is with the Son and holy spirit. I like to think of the Son as the human incarnation of God. While the Father is just that which always was. The father is not Jesus, but still god. I think I got that right. Additionally I found these online ''In this sense, there is an “order” in the Trinity. The Father is the first person because he is the fountain of divinity. The Son is the second person because the Deity is communicated to him from the Father. And the Spirit is the third person because the Deity is communicated to him from the Father and the Son.'' ''If you were to describe the Spirit's relationship with the Father and Son in a single word it would be “procession.” While the Father is uncreated and the Son is eternally begotten of the Father, the Holy Spirit eternally proceeds from the Father and the Son.''
@@prinzmohammad4171 I am not sure if this is a heresy or not, but i found this analogy to be quite good for understanding the trinity. There is one quran, but in that one quran there are many surah's that make up what we call the quran. In that sense there is one god, but what we know as one God is made up of 3 individual persons. They all share the same essence of God.
For the sake of the shin of allah, deception is a sin. So, if you want to talk about eternity, start aligning your life with Jesus and accept Him as your personal Saviour. Otherwise, shush.
@mysotiras 018 There's actually a lot of evidence and truth but what's the point of telling and showing the unbelievers if they keep denying and lying because of their ignorance.
Whatever Dr. Jay will say about Islam. I think Islam is the best religion in the world. Islam is much better, more logic, more rational more universal if we compare to another relgion, christiany teaching is problematic where its followers have different view about Jesus' nature. For example between Trinity and Unitarian do not have similar perpective regarding Jesus' status.
Yes there are many sect in christiansm, but look a sect of that whose teaching is reliable -- the Born Again Christian church only teached the will of God.
Are you Sunni or Shia? Sufi? Quran only? Who are the rightly guided caliphs? What really happened to Jesus on the cross? Which hadiths, if any, do you regard as authentic?There are TONS of disagreement between different Muslim groups but you don’t conclude therefore it’s false! Understanding the nature of the everlasting God can be a deep endevour indeed. Any Unitarian that has had sufficient time to study the scriptures and clings to a terrible wrong concept of the nature of Jesus is NOT a Christian. In His great mercy God gives us time to study and surrender to the text of the Bible. It took me awhile. What a great and loving God right?
... but there is NO debate regarding the existence of Jerusalem in ancient maps ! For a neutral observer, that certainly matters. In such matters one has to pass such basics, to be taken seriously! 😎
The claim that Jesus is God is a lie. The claim that Jesus is son of God is a lie. God is not a man. God created men. Jesus is a man. God created Jesus without a biological father does not mean or imply he is the son of God. (God created Adam without both a father and a mother) Believing Jesus is God is against the first commandment which is the foremost of commandments.
Is this the best you have? Your made up religion from the 8th Century is not even to be considered. Stay on topic, Mecca didn't exist in ancient times. islam didn't exist prior to the 8th Century.
Read The Bible. John 1:1-5 Genesis 1:1-3 Psalm 33:6 Micah 5:2 John 8:58-59 Read what Jesus was accused of. Actually, Islam breaks the First Commandment and so did Muhammad. Islam keeps you in lies. Pathetic. The Prophets call Jesus God.
No Mecca and no real proof of momo existence too . Now we understand why Qadi said holes in the narrative 😂
If you live a nomad life, there's no concrete history. I understand this since my ancestors were nomads too. I'm a modern nomad with shallow roots at every place. Dont stay too long and need to move again for so many reasons.
@@defenderoftruth3212 Your questions are built on lies.
Paul was confirmed by the disciples and eyewitnesses of the lord, something Muhammad can only dream of. Paul > Muhammad. The difference is christians like paul spread the word through mission, Muhammad ordered the killing of apostates and people who used to critzise his pagan fairy tale 🤷🏻♂️
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Thank You for another wonderful teaching.
So well informed..thank you Mr Alfadi - God bless you both..
Can we narrow down the time when mecca was actually established. When maps were invented mecca should be on EVERY map being the first city and ALL other towns came later. This city is the downfall of the counterfeit religion JESUS warned us all about ..... I can't get enough of these highly educational videos KEEP IT COMING DOCTOR SMITH AND DOCTOR AL-Fadi 🙂🙂🙂
Mecca is mentioned once in the Quran, the earliest written text of which has been radiocarbon dated to the early 7th Century.
There was a rock inscription in Saudi Arabia (now defaced, but readable from at least one photograph) which contains a date reference commemorating the (re-)building of the Kaaba, 697AD.
But it wasn't until 741AD until Mecca first appears on any map, one hundred years after its first literary reference.
In my opinion, Mecca refers to Makkaraba in Yemen, but a shrine (Kaaba) was built towards the end of the 7th Century in the location we now know as Mecca. Within a few decades it would have become a settlement large enough and important enough to appear on maps.
The biggest nail in islam's coffin is that Archaeology has shown that the children of Abraham worshipped YHWH (He-Waw-He-Yodh in their right to left script and not LLH (He-Lamedh-Lamedh). There is no "Allah" anywhere.
@@gavinjames1145 Actually I think 741 is when it was first mentioned in any text document, and the first map reference was 9th century.
@@chrishoff402 The Qur'an is the earliest dated reference to Mecca. So long as the dating is reliable, we can point to there being a place called Mecca in the early 600s AD. Rock inscription(s) near Mecca tell us that there was a Kaaba in Mecca at the end of the 7th Century. None of this is speculative: just the facts. 741 AD is the first time Mecca's location had been recorded on a map (which suggests that it was an established, permanent settlement by that time). However, before c.600 AD, there is no mention of Mecca at all. Mecca certainly isn't as ancient as Islamic history would suggest.
@@gavinjames1145 No water in Mecca apart from one well that can only keep alive a few hundred people and animals at best. Soil too rocky for growing anything. There was a princess/Arabian Queen who went to great expense to have two aquaducts deliver water from the mountains to Mecca in the 8th century, so technically they make one of the oldest historical structures in the place. Apart from that and the Kaaba, there's an Ottoman fort.
And now almost everything becomes clearer thanks brothers...done my support
البحث هذا اكثر من رائع و كثير من العرب يحتاجون هذة المعلومات .
انا ممكن اساعد فى الترجمة اذا اكان هناك احتياج. ربنا يبارك خدمتكم
Very interesting as always. 😎
Mecca was never on any major trade route
Jesus Christ died according to the scriptures, was buried, and was raised to life by the Holy Father according to the scriptures.
Why did the biological father of Jesus let him die on the cross? Why couldn't he appear when the bastrd screaming for help in pain?? Why can't the so-called God or his son manage to convince the authorities with the stupid message that influenced some Greeks after four decades of crucifixion and hundreds or miles away from the supposed Bethlehem ???
@@freethinker3054 Without spilling of blood, there is no forgiveness of sins.
@@defenderoftruth3212 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1 to 4
@@defenderoftruth3212 The Quran is not a scripture. It's a fabrication of Muhammed expressing his mere ideas, his mere opinions, his mere imaginations, his mere concoctions, his mere conjectures. Read your Hadith and understand what's in it.
1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Great job, thank you guys!
good upgrade of the studio 😃
You deserve a medal for your work 🏅
Good information....
BROTHER m00CARABA Rhymes with KA'ABA!!! PROBLEM IS SOLVED LOL. OMG My mind is numb from all of the lies of IZLAME.
WITHOUT LIES ISLAM ☪️ DIES
Same for Zionism. ✡️👿✡️
Who will save us from the Synagogue of Satan?
Very very very very verrrry true 🤣
because you didn't know anything about Islam.
true😄
@@marinamisgiman4883 oh i know a fact. momo was pedophile 🤣
Here is a little detail that will strengthen your conslusion. As pointed out in "The Byzantine-Arabic Chronicle: Full Translation and Analysis" by Aymenn Jawad Al-Tamimi the chronicle appear to have been finished during the reign of Al-Walid II (743-744 CE) and not in 741 CE during the reign of Hisham.
Very beautiful presentation my thks to dignitaries.
I laughed every time Jay said Ptolemy's name wrong!
8:30 Patolomy??? 😁
I heard it is pronounced as Plea-me 😀. English is a stupid language. 🤦♀️
Where are the great Muslim scholars, where is dr.zakir naik 🤔
I too wanted to ask tht qn😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"muslim scholar" is an oxymoron!
Oh you mean that medical doctor 🤭😄
He is in his clinic 😁
Is Petra in these old maps?
Can anybody provide an early Arab or Muslim map??
Mecca was like The Harry Potter place of arabia
@jazzymiles miles Since when did muslims have a God? 🤣
@@defenderoftruth3212 There is no allah but muhammad.. Islam has no God.. Allah will not exist without muhammad
@@defenderoftruth3212 yeah sure.. The one who wrote and speaks arabic quran is muhammad the arab… Do you really believe that a god like allah is capable of speaking arabic like a human being muhammad??? That is very suspicious
The "p" in Ptolemy is silent when pronounced in English.
actually i always pronounce it. it's just that you can't hear it. p like a puff of air.
Is "p" silent in psicology?
But not in Dutch. Ptolomeus.
English have tongue problems.
So Dutch must be better kissers.
@@eva4adam451 hahahha
@@marcelmeuldijk The original Greek.
MECCA IN THE QURAN & IN THE BIBLE: Mecca aka Bakkah in the Quran aka Baka in the Bible is mentioned in Psalm 84 as well as the House of God (Bayt Allah) or the Ka'aba. This Psalm was supposed to have been composed by David, so 'the house of God' mentioned in this Psalm could not be the 'temple' of Solomon. David's place of worship was the tabernacle tent which was never known as Bayt Alah (Allah). The tabernacle tent was known as (מִשְׁכַּן יְהוָה) mishkan Yhwh meaning the dwelling place of Yhwh (Numbers 16:9, 17:13, 19:13, 31:30, 1 Kings 2:28, 1 Chron 16:39 etc.). Bayt Allah is another name for the Kaaba. According to Wiki: " It ( the kaaba) is considered by Muslims to be the Bayt Allah (Arabic: بَيْت ٱللَّٰه, lit. 'House of God')..
The Psalm describes the journey of the pilgrims returning to Jerusalem from Bakkah/Baka where they visited the "house (בַּיִת) of Alah (אלֹהָֽ) in verses 3 & 4 which is (بيت اللّه) or Bayt Allah in Arabic.The Judeans would be very aware of Baka as Ishmaelites are mentioned as near kin and trading partners (Gen 37:25) throughout the Old Testament. Merchants from the Kingdom of Judah would have made the trip to Baka to trade and to worship at the Ka'aba, a common practice of all those who traded with the Bakkans aka Meccans. According to Psalm 84: 1-7:
How lovely is your dwelling place,
Lord Almighty!
2 My soul yearns, even faints,
for the courts of the Lord;
my heart and my flesh cry out
for the living God (אֵֽל־חָֽי). [Al-Hy in Hebrew means the Living God. In Arabic, the name is Al Hyy (الْحَيُّ) and it means the Living (God)].
3 Even the sparrow has found a home,
and the swallow a nest for herself,
where she may have her young-
a place near your altar,
Lord Almighty, my King and my God (אלֹהָֽ). (God is spelled Alah in Hebrew or Allah in Arabic)
4 Blessed are those who dwell in your house (בַּיִת); (Bayt means 'house' in Hebrew and Arabic. Here is the mention of Bayt Allah or the Ka'aba)
they are ever praising you.[c]
5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you,
whose hearts are set on pilgrimage. (The pilgrimage is the Muslim Hajj or the once in a lifetime trip to the Ka'aba)
6 As they pass through the Valley of Baka,
they regard it as a well (מַעְיָן ) (Zam Zam is the famous ayin or well in Bakkah/Mecca)
the autumn rains also cover it with pools.[d]
7 They go from strength to strength,
till each appears before God in Zion.
Also listed in this Psalm are other facts specific to Baka/Bakkah/Mecca as the location of Bakkah (Mecca) in a valley and the seasonal rains which caused the water to stream from the mountains and pool in areas where plants as date palms grew.
The ancient name for Mecca or Bakkah in the Quran, derives from the word to weep, but it does not refer to mourning or lamentation. According to Strong's, the Hebrew word Baka derives from the root 'bakah' (בָּכָה). The Arabic retains the original spelling of the word as (بَكَّةُ ) Bakkah. The word Baka/Bakkah refers to the 'ayn', the well of Zam Zam. The Arabic word, ayn (عين), has many meanings among which are eye and well. Similarly, according to Strong's, the Hebrew word for well 'mayain' (מַעְיָן) derives from the word ayin (עַיִן) which means eye as well as well or fountain. Zam Zam was and is fed by a flowing underground stream which means the ayn (well) is weeping or is fed by running water. Running water meant clean water as opposed to stagnant water. The AKJ translates verse 6 as "Who passing through the valley of Baca make it a well; the rain also filleth the pools." The word 'make' (שִׁית) should be translated as 'consider it a well' as this is one of the many meanings proposed by Strong's.
The obvious conclusion is that Psalm 84 Is referring to Mecca aka Bakkah, the location of Bayt Allah, the well, and the goal of many pilgrims on pilgrimage to this ancient shrine built by Abraham according to the Quran and honored by David in Psalm 84.
GM TH u sir for sharing GB u both.
Wait, haven't you posted this video already?
Probably on Pfinder films! They posted a video without showing maps!
Ptolemy miscalculated the earth circumference by 8000km.
Arabs didn’t start having written records until much later than other civilizations. They only kept oral traditions and only really started keeping writings after Islamic civilization. There was no reason for non-Arabs like Greeks, Romans or Persians to go out to the middle of the desert.. it was a very harsh travel and there were no resources worth claiming. It was only of religious significance for Arab people.
thank you. someone with some sense
Mecca was the first Disneyland
Good one😂
Hopefully salvation is reaching the people of Middle East GOD is great thank you for speaking sense where it's needed. God bless you
Oh please, as if catholicism makes any sense. Get your math on how many gods you guys believe in first, then criticise other religions.
@@MrKaplan1 Read in the book of John 1:18 you i'i understand
@@gloshjanny3453 Give me one verse where jesus says he's god and worship me. You can't, the moment you realise your religion was overtaken by "saint" Paul who was part of the Roman Empire government, that used religion to control people, just as it is used now by all religions without exception. The difference is, some use it now to brainwash people in the middle east, but the book is intact, your bible is not a book, it's a LIBRARY like a wall status of Facebook and all ur friends posting there how they felt based on what "saint" Paul, who has never met Jesus by the way, told you guys what Jesus said and how he acted.
@@MrKaplan1 Get a Bible open to the book of John 1:18.(King James version bible) and come debating with me. We Christian know what we wardship.
@@MrKaplan1 if you read and understand your so called quoran you see you pray asking God to show you the right way if we say Jesus is the way you don't believe so continue asking for the way.the bible says Jesus is the way, true and the light it's only through Jesus that one i'i see the kingdom of God 🙏💖🙏 thank God I'm not doomed and I know the way truth and light that is Jesus I don't go looking for him but follow his reaching.
He said 'O lord send me back'
Look at where Saraceni is on the map at 7:00.
cambrigde dictionary, Mecca: 1. a place to which many people are attracted. 2. the holy city of Islam in Saudi Arabia
This is call self humiliation…
Jesus christ is a real person
The Roman send ,in about 350-370 after Christ their gouvenors ambassadors, to see if trade was possible.they made the cost maps but never spoke 1 word of Mecca.
Did you ask Milo?
Islam has to explain how it is a miracle of Allah 😀
Better you dnt ask lol
@@olgatrilogymartin3143 so they have to decide whether to speak truth or lies 😀🕊️🙏✝️
@@defenderoftruth3212 ironically, your truth is skin deep. You must have read the quran and it's lies are rooted well in your minds. Still you couldn't understand the two covenantal relationship amg the books of the Bible. And still you cant defend the quran without lies. The quran is the master piece of all that you claimed against the bible, without any remorse. Do you realize the modern twist of Allah's wisdom about scientific discoveries that don't fit the olden scriptures? Worst, the muslims ended up worshipping a rock seated in dark black cube in a barren dry land. That's a banished god from the True, Living God who walked with the people of Israel, beginning with Abraham. The covenant with Abraham is the beginning of our faith into eternal salvation. What does Muhd know about Abraham's God????
lame logic. THEY are the witnesses of what they come to know. They died for their belief and faith. As for you, you're just a basher n trasher..... Nothing educated about that.... Reading the quran n bible from cover to cover. Even a parrot can be trained to recite the quran. Many muslims can read their quran excellently. I expect a scholarship that recognise both human and divine understanding of human history... You have no such knowledge. To the disbelievers, nothing can convince you to hear and follow the Lord. Instead you are the persecutors and accusers just as your father, the devil who is the Liar and the Deceiver. To those who believe, they recognise the Voice of God and repent. Come Holy Spirit, come. 🕊️💛✝️
@@defenderoftruth3212 i love this comment. I am Jewish and only follow the 5 books of Moses. Your understanding and Intellect is guiding you correctly! Everything you said about Islam and Christianity is spot on!
When 'shalom' becomes 'salaam' Nabatean Christianity of the Arab world was treated as Islam.
The old name of Mecca is Bakka which is mentioned by David in his Psalm 84 after his pilgrimmage to Bakka house of god Bethel which is Kaaba other name baitullah or bethel in Bible Abraham visit to Bethel when there was no City there yet but desert of Zion. Calcified white Mountains near Bakka is mountains of pharan mentioned also in bible especially mount pharan or mount Zion where Psalm 84 mentioned the man from bekka will see God at end of Psalm 84.
Mount Sela in madinah is also mentioned in Isaiah as the place of the new song to the Lord where qedar tribe lived. Qedar is the second son of Ishmael while nabit or Nebioth the first son lived his progeny in the deserts of Syria or Aram according to the biblical book of jasser!
Pharan mentioned by Habakkuk 2 1 and Moses “ god order came from mount Horeb and shines up in mount saer and flash over mount pharan this is reference to Moses Horeb Jesus Saer mount of olives and Mohammad mount pharan near Mecca where Mohammad was initiated by angel Gabriel a prophet at age 40.
Adam Mofet
specialist in biblical Hebrew using Arabic
Don't confuse him with facts! 😄 Next he'll be denying the existence of Madinah. "There was only a place called Yathrib there, no Madinah!"
Do you know a bit of geography man ?.
Have ever you seen a compass and scale in your life ?.?
Do not force geographical location near Israel in Saudi Arabia idiot
All your rubbish renderings have been debunked long ago
Your prominent apologists do not dare to debate this subject with Christian’s scholars!
Where was the House-of Yahweh in the valley of Bakka ??
In your dreams ?
@@satmat6566The problem is that you're arguing with someone without the knowledge needed to do so. He mentioned that the Kaaba is also called baitullah. Bait= House, Allah- God. It literally means the same as House of Yahweh as you mentioned. These are transliterations, so don't bother quibbling over baitullah/ bait Allah. It's in Arabic, and we're spelling out the pronunciation in English. You're also depending on maps drawn by people who never visited those places in person. Imagine the extent of the conspiracy necessary to fabricate a center of trade well known across Asia and the Middle East, where wars were fought, where hundreds of eye witness accounts were given of the wars and festivals, where several tribes claim as their homeland, etc. There are people who claim that Jesus, peace be upon him, never existed, and they claim to have historical evidence as well. Some people will twist anything to support their wishes.
Wow. Well Kept Secret......?
Muslims would love to be able to read Aramaic so they could learn about the real God not just the fake god la la
Mecca didn’t exist in the 7th Century
And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation.
Genesis 17:20………..
Who is this Great nation?
Jews are from Moses
Christines our from Jesus
Then Ishmael and his descendent Mohammed??
Moses’ Final Blessing on Israel
33 This is the blessing with which Moses ythe man of God blessed the people of Israel before his death. 2 He said,
“The Lord came from Sinai (Jews)
and dawned from Seir upon us (Christian’s);
he shone forth from Mount Paran (muslims);
Mount Paran is in Makkah
Deuteronomy 33
19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet.20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.
21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
John 4:19-21 NIV ……
5
Blessed are those whose strength is in you, whose hearts are set on pilgrimage.
6
As they pass through the Valley of Baka,
Psalm 84 (NIV)………..
Valley of Baka pilgrimage search Makkah pilgrimage Islam
@@WinterChristmas-l7x
I gave you examples if you want to search go search but for example you want to see the light but you close your eyes you will never see the light if you’re arrogant good luck with you were here to give you the message if you don’t like it it’s not a problem
@@WinterChristmas-l7x Arabs have nothing to do with Ishmael. please read article👉
@@abrandpluckedoutofthefire8043
Who wrote that Christine lol there are more than 45,000 denominations globally have your book across the world, where did he get his information from?
I couldn’t possibly be Allah said :(So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn) Al-Baqara. verse 79.
Wouldn’t I ask Christine about his Bible?
Yeah, I’m and I would ask a Muslim about his Quran.
That’s why God gave us a intellect, so we could find out the truth from the falsehood the problem is your to prideful to examine your mistakes. Even your Christian leaders, told you about the council of Nicaea, where they chose and picked out versus .😂
And if you really know the culture of Arab people, you would know they’re attached to their bloodline. They know there. Great great great father because a Christine told you that wasn’t from the bad line. Yes we believe you but blindly 😂
We have the bloodline of the aircraft that if you want to find out the truth
@@defenderoftruth3212
@@defenderoftruth3212 what you said is a lie of Islam . Read article
@defenderoftruth3212 never once addresses the videos subject matter. He simply reposts the same deceptive questions over and over, regurgitating his Taqiyya.
Grec went to « Arabia » and makes Maps long time ago
Very interesting! No Mecca on the most ancient European maps and not mentioned by Ptolemy prior to that. Hmmm 🤔
Which maps? Reference?
@@أبويوسف-ه4ط Are you watching the videos and the evidence they present?
SEEMS NOT 😆
711ad?
Why the qibla was 680ad?
Muslims don't access the free gift of the Holy Spirit. It's a personal relationship. Jesus broke the curse. Just claim it. You can know it's true in YOUR spirit.
Amen
The Bible/Torah/Koran books were not handed to mankind by any gods
nor were they dictated to human stenographers by any gods,
all written by men!
The Olden Testes Bible/Torah were just fables from the Stone Ages by oral tradition...
the Bible, a book of fables, was VOTED on by a group of men after the 4th century;
the Koran was just the copied and demented dogma of a selfish and petty violent despot....
There are no gods
[btw - any objections to these historical facts must be accompanied with evidence
to prove the existence
of any gods claimed]
Appeal to Ignorance/Argument From Ignorance Fallacy at its finest. Never change, boys. Never change. Allah has blessed us to have detractors of such "high" caliber lol.
Muslim don't need map for Mecca fir at has existed from time if Abraham 2000 BC.
When Abraham blessed with Issac the family then rejected Ishmael and Hagar and God asked Abraham to move them to Bakka now Mecca.
They say Australia isn't real either. 😄😄😄
In other word kaaba means kofa in wrong word and writing. All word in gorhan are in aramy launghogue. Thanks
So what? Ottomans knew about it, built a railroad to that city. Nobody knew about Jesus if Josephus did not write about him. Noah lived for 1000 years while is the earth is exactly 6000 years old? How are you related to Noah?
I think this presenter cake came from location hell.
Dear Dr. Jay Smith what do you think about the theses that Islam was made by Jesuiten ? I often hear that. What do you think about that ?
Islam began many centuries before there were any Jesuits.
@@grandoldpartisan8170 I already know thank you ! I think they got a new name in the middel age ! It must be that way because when you do a deep dive into Islam you can see that Islam teaches directly the opposite of Christanity ! There are so many points it is fishy !
This one is pretty weak tbh. Some old maps by some europeans who never even went there didn't mention Mecca. ok.
Hello mecca ! Lol you sound loss lol
jay there is big biblical scholar by the name robert price who believes that jesus never existed so we should believe what he said , right
So, because Mecca was not on any map, Jesus never existed? Thats a very silly form of argument!
Silly argument!
@@graceland395 it is the same argument that mecca never existed . eventhough we have physical proof that it did on the other hand we dont have jesus grave
@@mhamedkhattabi5863 Mecca was not on any map of old. Meaning, it is a recent creation. Or was just a hamlet that was given a bogus status. Jesus was a human, Mecca was a city. No basis to compare. Or if we want to compare, the basis wont be same.
There is a big difference between *no evidence that something existed* and *someone not believing* that someone existed. Both early Christian *and non-Christian* sources talk about Jesus. Mecca is in the "no evidence" category whereas Jesus is not.
O' יהוה and יהושע and רוח קודש Bless Alfadi and his family and all of us and our families and protect us from the Rabid dogs of Satan and the followers of the cult of Islam help us to esteem you and please you in our thoughts words and actions Amĕn Maranatha
@@defenderoftruth3212 what a Loser you are too Long winded stubbornly believing in the lies and deception of the Satanic cult of Islam may YaHuWaH Elohim have compassion on you and lift the veil of your blindness
Pleaz the way to petra is wrong ! Qibla don’t look to petra … it’s obvious … Petra have nothing to do with Arabomusulman !! Nothing
Quran proved was our past messenger of god, they came in the world for people also you are believe for them messenger, so why we are discuss about this, if wrong today that's mean same as wrong past
Crabmentality😄 is that the only way so that you will gain views in youtube for that content? More views more Money🤑 FOR THE VIEWS!
@mysotiras 018 Because thousand hates Islam but Millions loves it✌️🙂💕
@@WinterChristmas-l7x If he is arrested of stealing money i think he is in Jail now,Common sense not just keep on talking,Zakir naik is in Qatar and many more reverted to Islam💕🙂
Haha
It is sad,,,that people are following this false religion of Islam, whereas the Bible warned of this in Galatians 1:8-9... Mohammed should have read this verse atfer all he was married to a Catholic Nun Khadija.
@cd kablan 1 JOHN 4:15
Whoever shall confess Jesus is the Son of God, God dwells in him, and he in God.
JOHN 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Read the Bible,you will find out the truth and you will be set free,no need to die in your sins.A just and fair God must punish sin,not even a human judge can look at your past good deeds and dismiss your one bad deed.That notion was taken from Egyptian mythology of Osiris/Anubis , measuring good deeds and bad deeds,such gods don't exist and believing such is a sacrilege.
1 JOHN 5:7
For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one.
@cd kablan no one has seen God the Father,but only the Son.Even Moses saw the pre-incarnated Jesus Christ.It will be good if you take your time to read the all of Old Testament to understand the New Testament and reason for yourself, stop arguing with how you are taught,think for yourself brother.
@cd kablan my brother, you are nice but not smart.I implore you to read the Bible and ask God for the Spirit of Truth, to reveal to you the truth and mysteries of God.I advice you to read the Bible as a child, who doesn't know anything yet.especially Galatians 4... good Sabbath bro.
@cd kablan please read King James Version, not those Jesuit Versions!!!The devil is subtle and very hardworking in discrediting God's word and bringing confusion to deceive the perishing.
do you sanctify yourself?Do you go to Mecca and surround Kaaba?Do you venerate dead people like Muhammad?Do you kiss Blackstone to purge your sins?Do you eat camel meat?Do you practice pedophile?Do you kill house lizard to get blessing?Do you believe ants speaking?Do you believe Abraham and Ishmael time travelled to build Kaaba?Do you believe God asked Lucifer to worship a man?Do you believe God created the world in two days and also created the earth before heavens ?Do you believe that in heaven you will have sex?Do you believe that you will enter heaven with your sin?Do you believe in jinnies?Do you approve of polygamy?Do you approve of racism?Do you think that Mecca was the first city,yet not found in alI of the ancient maps.!!!all of this is your beliefs then you are lost as ever.
Where in the Bible does Jesus say ' I AM GOD', or ' WORSHIP ME ' ? We destroyed all your arguments through Ahmad Deedat and Dr Zakir Naik. People are just ignorant amd blind to the TRUTH.
There are plenty of verses in the gospel that claims that Jesus is God, just try reading the book of john.. Also why so specific ''I am God'' or ''Worship me'' does it have to be in these exact words? If yes that is rather unfair, and I could do the same thing to you and say, WHERE DOES THE QURAN STATE THAT ''THE BIBLE IS CORRUPT?''.
@@YamnayaSintash Then who is the Father? Referring to?
@@prinzmohammad4171I am not an expert in Christian theology, but in the trinity the father is God as is with the Son and holy spirit. I like to think of the Son as the human incarnation of God.
While the Father is just that which always was.
The father is not Jesus, but still god. I think I got that right.
Additionally I found these online
''In this sense, there is an “order” in the Trinity. The Father is the first person because he is the fountain of divinity. The Son is the second person because the Deity is communicated to him from the Father. And the Spirit is the third person because the Deity is communicated to him from the Father and the Son.''
''If you were to describe the Spirit's relationship with the Father and Son in a single word it would be “procession.” While the Father is uncreated and the Son is eternally begotten of the Father, the Holy Spirit eternally proceeds from the Father and the Son.''
@@prinzmohammad4171 I am not sure if this is a heresy or not, but i found this analogy to be quite good for understanding the trinity.
There is one quran, but in that one quran there are many surah's that make up what we call the quran.
In that sense there is one god, but what we know as one God is made up of 3 individual persons. They all share the same essence of God.
Ok then, is your God All powerful and does your God need other people to protect him?
Wishfull thinking.
Al Fadi, world is temporary, hereafter is forever .... is this worth it?
It really is worth it to expose Satan's curse on planet Earth.
For the sake of the shin of allah, deception is a sin. So, if you want to talk about eternity, start aligning your life with Jesus and accept Him as your personal Saviour. Otherwise, shush.
@@mohammedallah8083 Isa is Messengger
@@eddiehanson2738 later in hereafter u would blame Satan and Satan would blame back to u, why blaming him. Why followed them...
Definitely worth it and the fact that in every episode they're open to arguments just strengthens their position.
Clown 🤡
@mysotiras0187very funny lol !! definitely mojo Muhammad
Mecca is the centre of universe
The centre of Fantasy Land.
Birds shit on the center of the universe. LOL
That’s one of the One Liners Imams use to brainwash Useful Idiots! 😂
The centre of Satan's universe, yes.
@@eddiehanson2738 say it louder bro 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Do you have an email or can I ask question here?
Perhaps he's the one shouldn't be in this world indeed 😂
@mysotiras 018 Just keep on lying and denying the truth... feel sorry for the ignorance unbelievers.
@mysotiras 018 There's actually a lot of evidence and truth but what's the point of telling and showing the unbelievers if they keep denying and lying because of their ignorance.
@@WinterChristmas-l7x pure but not the truth 🤡🦧
Whatever Dr. Jay will say about Islam. I think Islam is the best religion in the world. Islam is much better, more logic, more rational more universal if we compare to another relgion, christiany teaching is problematic where its followers have different view about Jesus' nature. For example between Trinity and Unitarian do not have similar perpective regarding Jesus' status.
Yes there are many sect in christiansm, but look a sect of that whose teaching is reliable -- the Born Again Christian church only teached the will of God.
There are many sects in Islam. Islam is not the best Religion as it is not logical, not rational and is not totally universal.
Are you Sunni or Shia? Sufi? Quran only? Who are the rightly guided caliphs? What really happened to Jesus on the cross? Which hadiths, if any, do you regard as authentic?There are TONS of disagreement between different Muslim groups but you don’t conclude therefore it’s false! Understanding the nature of the everlasting God can be a deep endevour indeed. Any Unitarian that has had sufficient time to study the scriptures and clings to a terrible wrong concept of the nature of Jesus is NOT a Christian. In His great mercy God gives us time to study and surrender to the text of the Bible. It took me awhile. What a great and loving God right?
Thanks for your honesty. What every facts you are confronted you will belive Islam. Successfully brainwashed. Anyway you are honest!
... but there is NO debate regarding the existence of Jerusalem in ancient maps !
For a neutral observer, that certainly matters.
In such matters one has to pass such basics, to be taken seriously!
😎
The claim that Jesus is God is a lie.
The claim that Jesus is son of God is a lie.
God is not a man.
God created men.
Jesus is a man.
God created Jesus without a biological father does not mean or imply he is the son of God.
(God created Adam without both a father and a mother)
Believing Jesus is God is against the first commandment which is the foremost of commandments.
Jesus is God
Is this the best you have? Your made up religion from the 8th Century is not even to be considered. Stay on topic, Mecca didn't exist in ancient times. islam didn't exist prior to the 8th Century.
ABDUL CAME AGAIN TO INSULT HIMSELF😁😁
Read The Bible.
John 1:1-5
Genesis 1:1-3
Psalm 33:6
Micah 5:2
John 8:58-59
Read what Jesus was accused of.
Actually, Islam breaks the First Commandment and so did Muhammad.
Islam keeps you in lies. Pathetic.
The Prophets call Jesus God.
Plus, you do as other vain men - you speak off Topic. Where is Mecca in the 7th Century? It isn't there. Which means Islam a lie.
Maps don't show where fairytales are
Everybody should watch the video by forgotten history about tippu tip and if Mohammed ali watched it he would change his name and his religion
Haha