Thank you for your positivity and humor - it is much needed as I deconstruct over Christmas. Keep laughing Dr. Ehrman it is wonderful to see joy in discussion vs contention.
It is interesting that the deeper Bart Ehrman delved into biblical and religious studies, the further he strayed from the very religion that inspired him to take up the study in the first place. This is not an uncommon phenomenon among religious scholars. Dr. Ehrman, regardless of his personal beliefs, is always informed, thought provoking, and wonderfully entertaining.
Generally speaking, biblical scholars fall into two categories: those who are actively involved in an organized church (as priests, pastors, preachers, etc.) and those who are strictly academics. The latter group, if they lose their faith, will openly admit it and get on with their lives. The former, who have much more to lose, are likely to remain where they are in positions of spiritual authority and pretend for the rest of their lives.😀
@@janjordal9451 Hi J.J. I’ve known a number of men who have left the church following a loss of faith, but there is a powerful temptation to remain simply because, for so many of these individuals, their education has not prepared them to do anything in life other than minister to a congregation. The question remains, is personal faith necessary to successfully serve a congregation?
When you write a fictional story, as the author, you can invent all sorts of unlikely events and ignore reality of what the circumstances would have actually been. I find that obvious with all of the Old Testament stories and the majority of the New Testament stories, particularly the gospels.
The gifts were used to finance Jesus’ studies in Egypt. This is where he learned about the drugs and magic he used in his cult. A cult he financed through human trafficking and prostitution.
We three kings of Leicester Square Selling knickers tuppence a pair They're fantastic No elastic That's why they're tuppence a pair Yes. I remember a lot from my Catholic primary school.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw Yes: that's pretty much it with minor variations. The other one was: We three Kings of Orient are One in a taxi, one in a car One on a scooter Blowing his hooter Following yonder star. Then there was "While shepherds wash their sock by night..."
Where are Mary's Mother in Law and Sisters in law? Most people lived in communal households just to survive. I think the writer was rich, urban and with servants. PS would like to see more textual study on hammurabi and other pre bible text. Calling unmarried women prostitutes is rather Victorian.
You only 'dont notice' this stuff, if your upbringing has, somehow, blinded you to the mindless brutality of the story. Even as a child, the "everyone is born as filth, and needs to spend their whole life seeking redemption (for something they didnt do in the first place)" was a nasty toxic doctrine
Luke’s birth story was added later than the rest of the book. It’s noticeable by the difference in how it’s written in comparison to the rest of the gospel. Plus it makes no sense to have the genealogy placed after the birth story in a new chapter, unless you understand the birth story wasn’t originally part of the gospel.
Watch testifys video debunking this claim. It was not added later there’s no external evidence whatsoever from any manuscripts we have supporting this claim. That is the most favorable argument I have against this but there’s more. That and the Greek is very similar in many different passages in Luke that we also find in the first two chapters.
@@ryanvoll7088 so appeal to authority fallacy. Not even going to look at both sides. Yeah that’s really rational. And digital Hammurabi isn’t even a New Testament scholar 😂.
@ It’s not an appeal to authority fallacy to believe the consensus. It’s not my fault you don’t understand the meaning of “consensus”. That video did NOT debunk what the consensus agree to.
This was very interesting. One thing I searched and tried to find but couldn't was who celebrates the slaughter/massacre of innocents or otherwise views it as good news, such as for fulfilling a prophecy. I'm a layperson with limited knowledge on the Bible and its many interpretations, though, so I might be missing something. I've certainly seen believers dismiss, explain away, or even praise other atrocities. Which Christian sources or types of Christians celebrate Herod's slaughter of babies?
"We three kings of orient are trying to light a rubber cigar. It was loaded and exploded Now we're on yonder star." Megan, what on Earth are you talking about? 😄
It is very clear that people were told suffering would get them a better place in heaven, to keep them from grumbling and rising up against their masters. No need to provide any evidence either, because no one ever returned from the dead (anymore).
Another conundrum is how we're told Heaven is or will be so much better than this vale of tears, suffering and strife we currently live in. You'd think that'd be great incentive to get there as soon as possible! "Why am I hanging around this garbage dump of a world? Break out the vodka and sleeping pills!" BUT, there's that pesky offing one's self is a mortal sin thing! Very convenient...
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"One of the goals of a Biblical scholar is to get people to think more deeply about these stories that they just take for granted." That, I'm afraid, is exactly what they should not be doing if they want to retain their faith. When a Bible scholar says he or she is a former Christian and that studying these things is what led them to deconvert, that should be a warning sign. And there are Christians who would agree with me even though I am no longer a believing Christian myself.
@@GameTimeWhy I would not. But there are people who do, who have been taught by their pastors and their church that the way to life is narrow and the way to death is broad, who have been taught and who believe with all their hearts that there is a being called Satan who is out to deceive and trick people into falling away from God. That this started in the Garden of Eden when Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit of the Tree of KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil. That man's heart is deceitful and cannot be trusted, that there is a way that seems right to a man but leads to death. That to go beyond the narrow bounds of what they've been taught about these things is to invite demonic spirits into their minds. Do you think I am being sarcastic or kidding? I am not. I had an online conversation with someone yesterday who quite frankly told me that yes, questioning what one reads in the Bible, being confused about what one reads in the Bible is a sign that demons have taken over one's mind, because it leads to deconversion. This person would say that Bart Ehrman's thinking is demonic. Yes, those people are out there. They are afraid. They have been taught to fear, and with very good reason. Because once your eyes have been opened and you learn that there is more to the Bible than what you've been taught, it changes you. This knowledge is disruptive or can be disruptive. This is very frightening to some people. If you've never been indoctrinated in such a manner, it's hard to understand, because it's not just a matter of saying, oh, I've learned something new. Your whole identity is bound up in your belief, your eternal destiny is bound up in your belief--get it wrong and bam! the Devil's got you and now you are headed to Hell. That is a very real fear for many people. And that is why some people would rather live in willful ignorance. Jesus said it is better to cut off your hand or pluck out your eye if they cause you to stumble as it is better to enter the Kingdom of God maimed than to go to Hell whole. He didn't say anything about the mind but the same principle applies. Better to live in willful ignorance and go to Heaven than to gain all the knowledge in the world and go to Hell. Does that answer your question?
People told me I was on a "slippery slope" when I started studying the Bible critically. It was such an odd comment to me. Why would I willingly keep blinders on?
Yes, psychological and social dependency on a faith tradition can be more important than scholarly curiosity or intellectual integrity for many individuals. The living of one’s faith is sufficient for many and personally I’m fine with, I really am. That need not be unhealthy. The trouble comes when individuals who haven’t challenged their personal perspective insist that they are indeed absolutely right and that others are absolutely wrong then use their ideology to demonize other individuals. That’s when faith can become elitist, polarizing, dehumanizing and dangerous.
@@cipherklosenuf9242 this is a great point. Having deconstructed from my faith, it has definitely been a trade-off. I feel like I'm no longer buying into a lie, but it's also disconnected me in a way from friends, family, and community. The question is whether that trade-off was worth it. I haven't decided yet.
What about the REAL DARK side of scholarship complicit in its SILENCE ON ISRAEL’S GAZA GENOCIDE?! What about the fact you never talk about how Palestinian tatreez / embroidery, has patterns that date back to the 2 kingdom period, such as the palmette proto aoilic capital?
With all due respect there is no way you will understand the Bible without being a believer and there are very few believers. That’s why even most church folk have no idea what the Bible says. I am sure you are also aware Christmas and Easter are not Christian but pagan.
@@johntandy8918 I disagree, I think it's possible to shed old beliefs based on changing evidence. For example, a young child might sincerely believe in Santa Claus, but that same child as a teenager will no longer based on knowledge that has been imbibed in the intervening years.
@ but that isn’t biblical belief that is just believing in something. Most Christian’s just believe in a man made tradition a fabrication. Most don’t even believe in a six day creation six thousand years ago and that is the foundation of the rest of the biblical message. If he stopped believing in the church narrative that is a hopeful start.
@@johntandy8918That’s a ridiculous point. Lots of “true” believers have adjusted their beliefs as they become more educated in the history of the Bible and the development of Christology in the early church.
Thank you for your positivity and humor - it is much needed as I deconstruct over Christmas. Keep laughing Dr. Ehrman it is wonderful to see joy in discussion vs contention.
It is interesting that the deeper Bart Ehrman delved into biblical and religious studies, the further he strayed from the very religion that inspired him to take up the study in the first place. This is not an uncommon phenomenon among religious scholars. Dr. Ehrman, regardless of his personal beliefs, is always informed, thought provoking, and wonderfully entertaining.
Generally speaking, biblical scholars fall into two categories: those who are actively involved in an organized church (as priests, pastors, preachers, etc.) and those who are strictly academics. The latter group, if they lose their faith, will openly admit it and get on with their lives. The former, who have much more to lose, are likely to remain where they are in positions of spiritual authority and pretend for the rest of their lives.😀
@@copperleaves
I was a Vicar and left the church.
@@janjordal9451 Hi J.J. I’ve known a number of men who have left the church following a loss of faith, but there is a powerful temptation to remain simply because, for so many of these individuals, their education has not prepared them to do anything in life other than minister to a congregation. The question remains, is personal faith necessary to successfully serve a congregation?
i often forget about these elements of the 'christmas story', thank you.
When you write a fictional story, as the author, you can invent all sorts of unlikely events and ignore reality of what the circumstances would have actually been. I find that obvious with all of the Old Testament stories and the majority of the New Testament stories, particularly the gospels.
They're all folktales.
Given the worth of the gifts of the Magi, the holy family must have been the richest family in Nazareth if not Galilee.
That's a good point
The gifts were used to finance Jesus’ studies in Egypt. This is where he learned about the drugs and magic he used in his cult.
A cult he financed through human trafficking and prostitution.
It makes as much sense as any other fairytale.
Makes sense why they could afford to have a family tomb now.
Also if these gifts were so great why weren't they mentioned again
Never clicked on a video faster! Megan/Josh, do you plan on teaching anymore courses soon?
Yes! Josh will be teaching Hebrew and possibly Sumerian, starting in January :)
This Grinch is here for this 🫡
Im hoping you expose how Santa gets his Elves
Wake up babe new digital hammurabi bart ehrman interview just dropped
I can't wait for The Dark Side of Christmas 2: Beyond Krampus...
Frankly, my favourite Christmas songs were the cheeky variations such as "We Three Kings of London Square".
We three kings of Leicester Square
Selling knickers tuppence a pair
They're fantastic
No elastic
That's why they're tuppence a pair
Yes. I remember a lot from my Catholic primary school.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw Yes: that's pretty much it with minor variations.
The other one was:
We three Kings of Orient are
One in a taxi, one in a car
One on a scooter
Blowing his hooter
Following yonder star.
Then there was "While shepherds wash their sock by night..."
Where are Mary's Mother in Law and Sisters in law? Most people lived in communal households just to survive. I think the writer was rich, urban and with servants.
PS would like to see more textual study on hammurabi and other pre bible text. Calling unmarried women prostitutes is rather Victorian.
You only 'dont notice' this stuff, if your upbringing has, somehow, blinded you to the mindless brutality of the story. Even as a child, the "everyone is born as filth, and needs to spend their whole life seeking redemption (for something they didnt do in the first place)" was a nasty toxic doctrine
Immediately clicked off what I was watching for this
Ditto!
Luke’s birth story was added later than the rest of the book.
It’s noticeable by the difference in how it’s written in comparison to the rest of the gospel. Plus it makes no sense to have the genealogy placed after the birth story in a new chapter, unless you understand the birth story wasn’t originally part of the gospel.
True. The virgin birth was a later addition.
Watch testifys video debunking this claim. It was not added later there’s no external evidence whatsoever from any manuscripts we have supporting this claim. That is the most favorable argument I have against this but there’s more. That and the Greek is very similar in many different passages in Luke that we also find in the first two chapters.
@ I’m going to stick to published books by scholars with a PhD in the field over a UA-camr video.
@@ryanvoll7088 so appeal to authority fallacy. Not even going to look at both sides. Yeah that’s really rational. And digital Hammurabi isn’t even a New Testament scholar 😂.
@
It’s not an appeal to authority fallacy to believe the consensus.
It’s not my fault you don’t understand the meaning of “consensus”.
That video did NOT debunk what the consensus agree to.
This was very interesting. One thing I searched and tried to find but couldn't was who celebrates the slaughter/massacre of innocents or otherwise views it as good news, such as for fulfilling a prophecy. I'm a layperson with limited knowledge on the Bible and its many interpretations, though, so I might be missing something. I've certainly seen believers dismiss, explain away, or even praise other atrocities. Which Christian sources or types of Christians celebrate Herod's slaughter of babies?
To my knowledge no one "celebrates" it other than in a "Isn't Bible prophecy fulfillment wonderful?!" sense...
"We three kings of orient are
trying to light a rubber cigar.
It was loaded
and exploded
Now we're on yonder star."
Megan, what on Earth are you talking about?
😄
❤❤❤
It is very clear that people were told suffering would get them a better place in heaven, to keep them from grumbling and rising up against their masters. No need to provide any evidence either, because no one ever returned from the dead (anymore).
Another conundrum is how we're told Heaven is or will be so much better than this vale of tears, suffering and strife we currently live in. You'd think that'd be great incentive to get there as soon as possible! "Why am I hanging around this garbage dump of a world? Break out the vodka and sleeping pills!" BUT, there's that pesky offing one's self is a mortal sin thing! Very convenient...
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How please
All thanks to Jennifer Allen
She's the lady that changed my life for good
I've heard many people commenting on Mrs Jennifer Allen on UA-cam.
will y'all join Bluesky please? I left twitter and miss your content
thank goodness for your youtube
I'm on Bluesky! I forget to use it, but I'm trying to be better. I'm @digital-hammurabi.bsky.social
Christmas the season of greed ,lust and desire.
"One of the goals of a Biblical scholar is to get people to think more deeply about these stories that they just take for granted." That, I'm afraid, is exactly what they should not be doing if they want to retain their faith. When a Bible scholar says he or she is a former Christian and that studying these things is what led them to deconvert, that should be a warning sign. And there are Christians who would agree with me even though I am no longer a believing Christian myself.
But why would you want to live in willfull ignorance?
@@GameTimeWhy I would not. But there are people who do, who have been taught by their pastors and their church that the way to life is narrow and the way to death is broad, who have been taught and who believe with all their hearts that there is a being called Satan who is out to deceive and trick people into falling away from God. That this started in the Garden of Eden when Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit of the Tree of KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil. That man's heart is deceitful and cannot be trusted, that there is a way that seems right to a man but leads to death. That to go beyond the narrow bounds of what they've been taught about these things is to invite demonic spirits into their minds. Do you think I am being sarcastic or kidding? I am not. I had an online conversation with someone yesterday who quite frankly told me that yes, questioning what one reads in the Bible, being confused about what one reads in the Bible is a sign that demons have taken over one's mind, because it leads to deconversion. This person would say that Bart Ehrman's thinking is demonic. Yes, those people are out there. They are afraid. They have been taught to fear, and with very good reason. Because once your eyes have been opened and you learn that there is more to the Bible than what you've been taught, it changes you. This knowledge is disruptive or can be disruptive. This is very frightening to some people. If you've never been indoctrinated in such a manner, it's hard to understand, because it's not just a matter of saying, oh, I've learned something new. Your whole identity is bound up in your belief, your eternal destiny is bound up in your belief--get it wrong and bam! the Devil's got you and now you are headed to Hell. That is a very real fear for many people. And that is why some people would rather live in willful ignorance. Jesus said it is better to cut off your hand or pluck out your eye if they cause you to stumble as it is better to enter the Kingdom of God maimed than to go to Hell whole. He didn't say anything about the mind but the same principle applies. Better to live in willful ignorance and go to Heaven than to gain all the knowledge in the world and go to Hell. Does that answer your question?
People told me I was on a "slippery slope" when I started studying the Bible critically. It was such an odd comment to me. Why would I willingly keep blinders on?
Yes, psychological and social dependency on a faith tradition can be more important than scholarly curiosity or intellectual integrity for many individuals. The living of one’s faith is sufficient for many and personally I’m fine with, I really am. That need not be unhealthy.
The trouble comes when individuals who haven’t challenged their personal perspective insist that they are indeed absolutely right and that others are absolutely wrong
then use their ideology to demonize other individuals.
That’s when faith can become elitist, polarizing, dehumanizing and dangerous.
@@cipherklosenuf9242 this is a great point. Having deconstructed from my faith, it has definitely been a trade-off. I feel like I'm no longer buying into a lie, but it's also disconnected me in a way from friends, family, and community. The question is whether that trade-off was worth it. I haven't decided yet.
Que triste esta en ingles, asi q no entendí nada
Myrrh was medicinal and Frankincense was also used in mummification Just sayin...
It’s a kind of fairytale in which events later in the story (Jesus’s death) are foreshadowed.
So
What about the REAL DARK side of scholarship complicit in its SILENCE ON ISRAEL’S GAZA GENOCIDE?!
What about the fact you never talk about how Palestinian tatreez / embroidery, has patterns that date back to the 2 kingdom period, such as the palmette proto aoilic capital?
Pero' la traduzione automatica rovina tutto, non fa che dire uh ah, eh, oh, e non ai capisce un accidente
Interesting but I can't stand all the giggeling
Well, then stop giggling!!
@hurdygurdyguy1
I'm not giggling. Are you?
How to stop them?
I have no idea. I can only stop myself watching so I switched it off.
With all due respect there is no way you will understand the Bible without being a believer and there are very few believers. That’s why even most church folk have no idea what the Bible says. I am sure you are also aware Christmas and Easter are not Christian but pagan.
Dr. Ehrman was a sincere believer at an earlier stage of his life.
@ but he can’t have been if he isn’t now, that’s sort of my point
@@johntandy8918 I disagree, I think it's possible to shed old beliefs based on changing evidence. For example, a young child might sincerely believe in Santa Claus, but that same child as a teenager will no longer based on knowledge that has been imbibed in the intervening years.
@ but that isn’t biblical belief that is just believing in something. Most Christian’s just believe in a man made tradition a fabrication. Most don’t even believe in a six day creation six thousand years ago and that is the foundation of the rest of the biblical message. If he stopped believing in the church narrative that is a hopeful start.
@@johntandy8918That’s a ridiculous point. Lots of “true” believers have adjusted their beliefs as they become more educated in the history of the Bible and the development of Christology in the early church.