I noticed that it was a super controlled test as well ;) Def. pulling hard on the cajun gun. Pulling it into the frame. I bet it is false data. He did say the break is more glass like and crisper which is all I care about. The factory trigger is just.... mush
I was getting heavier numbers with same pull gauge. the trigger would break then you would have the weight pulling afterwards. I don't think the gauge has a sensor to sense its first stop and lock that number in.
I made couldn't make it 1 whole min into this. After that 2nd pull he did @ 0:54 I was thinking how dumb this good is and how inaccurate those numbers prob are.
I sent my p07 in to Cajun gun works and when I got it back it was like night and day. Stock, I absolutely hated the trigger. Now it's amazing. The pull weights haven't changed dramatically but the smoothness of the trigger is unbelievable in comparison which to me is far more important. I'd have to say I'm very surprised that others haven't come to the same conclusion.
I have 5 CZ pistols: SP-01, Shadow 2, P01, PCR and P07. All except P01 have Cajun kits in them and all were a significant improvement over factory. Lighter DA/SA, shorter reset, less pre-travel/take up. Omega trigger kit didn't quite yield the improvement as significant as standard 75 trigger with safety, but was still plenty noticeable! Not sure what is wrong with your P07, but you should talk to David or Scott at CGW and I'm sure they'll make it right.
so i watched this video before and a couple others and still decided to get the kit and im gonna have to disagree with these guys, while the p07 has a pretty great stock trigger, after putting in the kit, over travel trigger, and doing some polishing the trigger is amazing to where it almost feels like the trigger on a custom 1911, the wall is more defined now giving you better control and safety, the double action is smoother and lighter, the reset is much better even though on video it looks the same in actual shooting its a huge upgrade. Another benefit is that some of the parts prone to breakage are now much more durable. If youre the type of person that spends $200 on his ar trigger or glock trigger then definitely get this kit you'll appreciate it.
Just my opinion. I've owned two CZ P07 one very early on right after they change from the "duty" model and a 2019 model. All I can say is that I think CZ has made changes to this newer model that makes the da/sa trigger a lot better. When I compare internals everything looks better machined in the newer model. I think in early models you will see a big change to the trigger using the cajun kit. In the new models, the change is less and not worth the cost. Just purchase the spring kit.
Sean Michael The trigger pull tests were definitely questionable, bad form. I know if I accidentally jerk the the gauge it reduces the trigger pull at least a pound or so on my Shadow 2. The Shadow had a 10.5# trigger before I did the trigger job on it (polishing and spring changes), now it’s 5.25# D/A and 2.25 S/A. Very nice.
You are somewhat right. Every New CZ has different trigger pulls/feel some don't need to be upgraded some need it bad. Some SA are 5lbs and Sloppy DA 11lbs.
My P09 and P07 both have CGW Pro-Packages with tuning. The work is phenomenal and the triggers are butter after a couple hundred rounds. Best double action trigger pull on a non-competition duty designed pistol. Worth every penny IMO
If your going to check DA mode, how about using the Decocker instead of pulling the trigger. Clearing your not testing from the CZ half cocked position.
Along with a VERY noticeable reset and better firing pin. I have a 2.8lb SA with a 7.5lb DA. Now I didn’t get the Full kit. You DON’T NEED the full kit unless you’re going for competition that requires a hammer spring less than #18. I got the Short reset kit, #18 hammer spring, Reduced Power springs, also took plenty of time to polish the internals. The CGW FULL kit is not over priced. It’s just overkill for a SD gun. You don’t need the hammer and in most cases the roller if you have a newer p07 with the outer roller already polished. You’re not taking trigger weight pulls correctly either. Also the Gen 1s were over sprung. The Gen 2s are under sprung. Get a Recoil guide rod with a #15 recoil spring. This makes it more flat shooting instead of light and snappy. You don’t want light and snappy in a SD gun IMO. Now if you’re making your own loads disregard my last statement. You know what I mean.
I have P07 and all I did installing M Carbo hammer recoil spring and a omega straight trigger my self. And the double action and single is amazing now. Costed 39 $ for trigger from CZ custom and 29 $ for the spring kit. 70 $ total.
I figured that my p07 didn't need a entire expensive kit. I put the short reset kit in mine, which comes with the extended firing pin. Polished up the da roller and safety plunger. Put the reduced power plunger spring and a 13lb hammer spring in it and it feels great now. It has a 7.5-8lb da pull and a 3 - 3.5lb sa pull and its really smooth. I did exactly what needed to be done to make the trigger feel perfect for me. No need for the entire kit in my opinion.
So my question for all DIY’ers. Did you do everything that CGW would have done to the guns, polished all of the internals, and contact points? I think it is a little unrealistic to just “drop in” a kit, without all of the other things that are done, and expect the gun to perform like it came back from CGW. With the full treatment. Judging by the comments, your’s appears to be an exception not the rule. For this video to be valid, one of the guns should have gone to CGW for the full treatment i.e. pro package with polished internals by THEM, versus one of the stock guns.😎✌️
This is so left field on this. The point of the kit is that for around $700-750 all said and done you can have a pistol with a trigger break that rivals a well tuned 1911 in a polymer frame gun that can be converted to be carried cocked and locked or decocker style. So instead of looking at it as $250 extra you look at the difference between the $750 max for the P07 with this kit and whatever other performance piece you had in mind. If you aren't looking for it to be a precision piece then it wouldn't be worth it to you, if you were looking at $1500+ guns that this gun and trigger kit beats out then its a different story. There is a point of diminishing returns on trigger jobs, no shit, that's not the point though.
As a competitive shooter I have done two SP 01 Shadows and a P09 Duty with Cajun Gun Works goodies and they are amazing a noticible difference even after I reworked the factory lockwork I consider it money well spent and if there is a Shadow 2 in the near future it also will get Cajunized no problems here
Hey, I know this vid is 5 years old, but as a new 07 owner and a relatively new shooter, this was very helpful. Doesn't seem worth the 250, especially for me. The MCarbo spring kit change for $30 bucks seems much more reasonable. But overall, I say get good at the stock before making unnecessary upgrades.
I have a MCarbo kit on standby and came to the same conclusion. I haven’t been able to get my P07 to the range yet but have been dry firing for 2 weeks and the stock internals have already worn in and improved greatly after 1000+ repetitions. (I am using a small O-ring on the firing pin when dry firing in case the retention pin is still a weak point)
What folks need to remember is these are usually not competition guns. They are concealed carry guns. In the heat of the moment one does not feel a crisp trigger or short reset.
Amazing how much smoother the SA/DA CZs will get, if you spend that 250 bucks on 1500+ rounds of ammo. Plus, ya know, you get 1500+ rounds of practice/fun with your pistol. Hell, just let some "gun guy" piddle with it for a day, and he'll dry fire it enough to make a noticeable difference
I installed the M*Carbo spring kit in my P-07 and polished the internals. SA/DA is definitely better than the stock trigger using my uncalibrated finger. I don’t own a trigger scale so no data. I just ordered the short trigger return kit from CGW. Hoping it makes an improvement.
I've used Cajun stuff on my CZ clones and it was a GREAT improvement. My CZ p07 is still stock and needs no improvement. I have the older CZ p07 Duty. I also LOVE CZ rifles.
Good to know. Thanks guys. I've seen other videos of CZs with various trigger jobs and often wondered why the guys doing the reviews were so positive when I couldn't see any visibly obvious benefits. I'll save money.
Sand-Paper-Pistol-Grips Glad it helped someone! If I had it all to do over I wouldn’t do it. I would put lighter springs in it ~$20-30 bucks and call it a day. Thanks Brother 🤘🏻🇺🇸
Aside from the actual trigger gauge test here which obviously isn’t the best way to do one for consistency. I’ve heard this opinion several times about cg trigger kit. It’s one of the more expensive trigger kits out there for any polymer pistol. And a p07/09 isn’t an expensive gun either. The own Trigger is plenty good and worth leaving alone compared to this kit. At that cg kits price it should reduce the pull weight by half be super crisp. Have a short reach, short pre travel, and super short reset. All in my opinion. Good video thanks guys.
Are either of you guys a gunsmith? I have never seen anyone use a Lyman trigger gauge like that - yanking through until the trigger bottoms out on the frame of the gun and then continue to pull. That's probably why you did not get any reading at all on the second pull. Also, the results were so far off (% wise) from one to the next, maybe try 2 out of 3 to see if you get any 2 readings anywhere close. Also, I may be wrong, but isn't DA measured after the slide is racked and the firearm decocked - instead of just putting the hammer all the way down?
Sounds like a disgruntled customer I can tell you from experience all I've done was changed out a couple of hammers springs in my CZ's and they were greatly improved just from doing that. So I can only imagine what a cajunized gun feels like
Great video..Thank you so much for cleaning up this controversy over the stock CZ and the modified CZ I have a CZ P-01 and CZ P07 both are stock and the shoot just fine I wouldn’t change anything…
Thanks guys! I have a new P07 with about 100 rounds through it. I don't like too light of trigger, as matter of fact the P07 SA trigger caught me off guard at first, there was no wall before break. I was also shooting glock and M&P that day. I like a 4.5-5.5 lb trigger and I like a crisper break. All I would want to do to my P07 is have it break crisper on SA and lighten up the DA pull a little. Any way of doing that without changing hammer or going full kit?
My P07 new measured a 3 pull average of DA 9.14.5 oz. & SA 3.15.9 oz. 2 days and 300 rounds later, average was DA 8.15.1 oz SA 3.11.4 oz. Trigger is smooth as butter. Nothing was modified....simply breaking it in. Later I'll polish things up a bit and should shave another couple of ounces.
The Cajen Gun works P10 race trigger is, hands down, the best in the business. It's take up adjustment screw removes ALL the take up. Actually better than the fabled Walter PPQ Match trigger. (I own both...). Also, without the spring kit, similar trigger pull weights is stupid obvious! The hammer fired pistol, when fully tuned, will always beat a striker fired pistol. However the P10 comes pretty damn close!!! Stay safe...shoot often!!!
I just did mine and with polishing all metal to metal contact, using my Lyman trigger gauge, I am consistently pulling 7lb 12oz DA and 2lb 14oz SA! Trigger still has a bit of slop in it though! Hoping a few hundred rounds next sunday will break it in a little bit and knock off a couple ounces of trigger weight from both DA/SA!
The difference in my 75 is astronomical, sad to hear the p07 kit is a bit of a lemon. I converted my manual safety 75 to sao, with a light trigger return spring, free float trigger pin, sao flat trigger, and race hammer kit. Costed about $230 and it's doing 1.8lbs with no over travel on pull or reset.
It's your money but for me spending $20 for a MCARBO spring & pin kit and a 30 min. polish made a better choice. Spending the extra $$ on ammo made it even better & my accuracy improved too.
First don’t jerk the trigger pull gauge when checking the trigger weight. Second, you should have measured the double action pull from 1/4 cock where the decocker puts the hammer not hammer fully down.
This is a joke of a video. Why no up close camera work? CGW has thousands of satisfied customers, me being one of them. You bash a company without ever sending it in to see if they could make it right, or you installed it yourself wrong and won’t admit failure. There’s a reason so many professional shooters Cajunize guns like the sp01 Shadow which already has an outstanding trigger, David and his son definitely know what they’re doing. Apparently you guys don’t. Btw, Cz p01 da before CGW was 14 pounds, sa was 5.75 pounds, reset was twice the distance after pro package da is 9 pounds and sa is 3.5 pounds. CGW and CzC are both top notch companies. You sound salty because you had to actually buy your own stuff rather than have it sent to you free for UA-cam gun expert testing. Lmfao
fanboys man... how are you going to condescend to these guys for not following through with due diligence when you know nothing about them? I would say they seemed reasonable and not "salty." You just went full 9/11 right away and accused them of being clueless and screwing up the install. Go be a fanboy somewhere else.
10 lbs is too much for me , prefer a 5 lb DA pull and like a 2.5 or 3 lb SA pull, otherwise why not just go with a striker fired carry gun. The single action trigger pull needs to be light, fast , and accurate , the double action pull can be heavier. like a carry gun would be. if you have a light trigger then the double action would be useful. if you dont have a light single action trigger just change the decocker to a safety and run it like that. thats just my opinion
I think you pull hard on the Cajun gun works gun. And I think it’s important to know how many rounds did the non Cajun gun work has? There is such thing as polishing naturally by running more rounds through the gun or do the polishing diy to speed up the feel of a used gun. I have a sig 226 and after I install the srt kit and change the mainspring to 17lbs from 20 and also the sear spring. The trigger feels gritty. Before upgrading into srt I have put around 3000 rounds through it. I think the trigger feel is much better before the srt installation. Thanks for the video anyway
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE VIDEO!!! i thinkthey put something up saying the hammer spring doesnt work well with federal or winchester now ill just replace screws thats it
Good info. I put together a $190 CGW parts list for my SP-01 for SAO flat face trigger. I have been dragging my feet because I want 100% reliability...and that cz ran very well last week bone stock. A UA-cam friend let me pull the tiger on his same model cz...felt very close to the T.S. trigger pull and travel...I'm still tempted.
Glocked 17 Cool! I bet the SP-01 SAO trigger would feel much better. These having the Omega Trigger System in them I think is a little different. I just know my experience wasn’t the greatest with their parts specifically for the p07-p09. Basically I got a little bit lighter trigger (not by much) and a crisper single action break (which wasn’t bad to begin with) for the grand total of $250 bucks. Hell thats nearly halfway to another nice pistol or rifle. Lol. Oh well, we live and learn. Thanks Brother! 🤘🏻🇺🇸
Most videos tend to oversell whatever it is that they are testing. It's nice to see someone just lay the bare truth out there. When you think about it, it's kind of dumb to assume that CZ doesn't know how to build a trigger.
lol...what a silly comment...ofcourse they do but they aren't going to fine tune a mass produced $500 hand gun for optimum performance or they would have no reason to sell their higher end guns...you don't seem to understand what's being discussed...
Really appreciate this video. I took my new Rami to range and it seemed pretty smooth out of the box. So I was wondering if I'd noticed any difference. Thank you both for helping me answer that question. For now, I'll spend the extra $200 on ammo and time at range.
You guys just saved me over $300. I’ve got the paperwork and was ready to ship it to CGW. No doubt they have a good rep, but I’m all about making smart investments on my guns. I went bananas on my first ever handgun (G19) and I’ve since taken it all back to stock. I’ll keep my p07 plain Jane (except for sights...which I can now afford). Thanks for the review!
Great (honest review). I've kicked around doing a kit on my P07. Think I'll just leave well enough alone. My CZ is my go to owb carry/car carry/no bs I need a gun, gun.
even though the trigger pulls were no where near consistent for proper testing, You did save me some $$$ cuz I would not do a Cajun works after watching this.
Aside from the reset that does look the same, is to get that snap out of the omega trigger system. Some of these omega triggers are super light and clean, but others are heavy and gritty; however they push through the break more than they snap. I did the competition spring, took tension off my trigger bar spring, and my P09 was good enough for me. Sucks though man.
My stock p07 trigger after 1000 rounds trigger feels amazing it breaks at 3.2lbs SA Double action breaks at 8.3lbs when it was new it was breaking at 3.8 and 8.8-8.9
I love my CZ PCR but I could never get the accuracy I wanted with my P-07, it just didn't work well for me personally. Ended up trading it for an M&P 2.0 Compact
Pretty strange. Never really heard of anyone not having 0 difference like that after a CJW kit….Everyone I’ve ever seen (buddy has a p10 and a p09 from CJW) and heard of has said they’re night and day. Wonder if it’s worth you contacting them lol.
It did save me some money, at least so far. Thanks. I just got a cz sp01 phantom and was going to get the work done. Thanks to you all, I’m not doing anything until I have 1,000 rounds through it.
This is disappointing. I impulse bought the pro kit for my p07 yesterday having heard such great things about cjw...its disappointing I can't send it back.
I was just telling somebody how that trigger kit is a total waste of Money, it's just not ther money for what your getting, id rather buy a Tauras for $250 vs a useless trigger kit
Thanks so much for sharing this very important information, you really will save quite a few ppl a pretty penny. Really appreciate the time spent to find this out but what I’ve ultimately found to be the truth is that CZ engineers and produces excellent, almost flawless operating firearms right out of the box. When you buy a CZ you will enjoy shooting it.
I have never seen a worse use of a trigger guage. And you guys make videos that's the most unbelievable part.
Dude when you read the trigger don't yank it back like that. Such an inaccurate reading...
That’s what I was thinking
The jerking of the trigger gauge makes me wonder how accurate the measurements are.
Not that it matters.
I noticed that it was a super controlled test as well ;) Def. pulling hard on the cajun gun. Pulling it into the frame. I bet it is false data. He did say the break is more glass like and crisper which is all I care about. The factory trigger is just.... mush
Yeah, can't believe people missed that. So many people eating this up lol
I was getting heavier numbers with same pull gauge. the trigger would break then you would have the weight pulling afterwards. I don't think the gauge has a sensor to sense its first stop and lock that number in.
I made couldn't make it 1 whole min into this. After that 2nd pull he did @ 0:54 I was thinking how dumb this good is and how inaccurate those numbers prob are.
Seems like they would've picked up on it when both triggers had the same weight reading, but no
I sent my p07 in to Cajun gun works and when I got it back it was like night and day. Stock, I absolutely hated the trigger. Now it's amazing. The pull weights haven't changed dramatically but the smoothness of the trigger is unbelievable in comparison which to me is far more important. I'd have to say I'm very surprised that others haven't come to the same conclusion.
I agree the feel of the trigger is so much better with the Cajun Guns Works trigger job.
I have 5 CZ pistols: SP-01, Shadow 2, P01, PCR and P07. All except P01 have Cajun kits in them and all were a significant improvement over factory. Lighter DA/SA, shorter reset, less pre-travel/take up. Omega trigger kit didn't quite yield the improvement as significant as standard 75 trigger with safety, but was still plenty noticeable! Not sure what is wrong with your P07, but you should talk to David or Scott at CGW and I'm sure they'll make it right.
so i watched this video before and a couple others and still decided to get the kit and im gonna have to disagree with these guys, while the p07 has a pretty great stock trigger, after putting in the kit, over travel trigger, and doing some polishing the trigger is amazing to where it almost feels like the trigger on a custom 1911, the wall is more defined now giving you better control and safety, the double action is smoother and lighter, the reset is much better even though on video it looks the same in actual shooting its a huge upgrade. Another benefit is that some of the parts prone to breakage are now much more durable. If youre the type of person that spends $200 on his ar trigger or glock trigger then definitely get this kit you'll appreciate it.
I can't see it as compared to a 1911, but it is much better on mine!
Totally agree
Just my opinion. I've owned two CZ P07 one very early on right after they change from the "duty" model and a 2019 model. All I can say is that I think CZ has made changes to this newer model that makes the da/sa trigger a lot better. When I compare internals everything looks better machined in the newer model. I think in early models you will see a big change to the trigger using the cajun kit. In the new models, the change is less and not worth the cost. Just purchase the spring kit.
Am I the only one who feels like no one should rely on this video? And that it feels a little douchey? I dunno...
LMAO
It's not douche to point out how poorly the test was done
Sean Michael The trigger pull tests were definitely questionable, bad form. I know if I accidentally jerk the the gauge it reduces the trigger pull at least a pound or so on my Shadow 2. The Shadow had a 10.5# trigger before I did the trigger job on it (polishing and spring changes), now it’s 5.25# D/A and 2.25 S/A. Very nice.
You are somewhat right. Every New CZ has different trigger pulls/feel some don't need to be upgraded some need it bad. Some SA are 5lbs and Sloppy DA 11lbs.
My P09 and P07 both have CGW Pro-Packages with tuning. The work is phenomenal and the triggers are butter after a couple hundred rounds. Best double action trigger pull on a non-competition duty designed pistol. Worth every penny IMO
If your going to check DA mode, how about using the Decocker instead of pulling the trigger. Clearing your not testing from the CZ half cocked position.
Along with a VERY noticeable reset and better firing pin. I have a 2.8lb SA with a 7.5lb DA.
Now I didn’t get the Full kit.
You DON’T NEED the full kit unless you’re going for competition that requires a hammer spring less than #18.
I got the Short reset kit, #18 hammer spring, Reduced Power springs, also took plenty of time to polish the internals.
The CGW FULL kit is not over priced. It’s just overkill for a SD gun.
You don’t need the hammer and in most cases the roller if you have a newer p07 with the outer roller already polished.
You’re not taking trigger weight pulls correctly either.
Also the Gen 1s were over sprung. The Gen 2s are under sprung. Get a Recoil guide rod with a #15 recoil spring. This makes it more flat shooting instead of light and snappy. You don’t want light and snappy in a SD gun IMO. Now if you’re making your own loads disregard my last statement. You know what I mean.
Old comment, but WOW thanks. Looking into getting a CZ
I have P07 and all I did installing M Carbo hammer recoil spring and a omega straight trigger my self. And the double action and single is amazing now. Costed 39 $ for trigger from CZ custom and 29 $ for the spring kit. 70 $ total.
I figured that my p07 didn't need a entire expensive kit. I put the short reset kit in mine, which comes with the extended firing pin. Polished up the da roller and safety plunger. Put the reduced power plunger spring and a 13lb hammer spring in it and it feels great now. It has a 7.5-8lb da pull and a 3 - 3.5lb sa pull and its really smooth. I did exactly what needed to be done to make the trigger feel perfect for me. No need for the entire kit in my opinion.
I'm planning on buying a p07 soon and that's the route I was going to take also. How has it been?
@@hugeslacker it has been great!
So my question for all DIY’ers. Did you do everything that CGW would have done to the guns, polished all of the internals, and contact points? I think it is a little unrealistic to just “drop in” a kit, without all of the other things that are done, and expect the gun to perform like it came back from CGW. With the full treatment. Judging by the comments, your’s appears to be an exception not the rule. For this video to be valid, one of the guns should have gone to CGW for the full treatment i.e. pro package with polished internals by THEM, versus one of the stock guns.😎✌️
This is so left field on this. The point of the kit is that for around $700-750 all said and done you can have a pistol with a trigger break that rivals a well tuned 1911 in a polymer frame gun that can be converted to be carried cocked and locked or decocker style. So instead of looking at it as $250 extra you look at the difference between the $750 max for the P07 with this kit and whatever other performance piece you had in mind. If you aren't looking for it to be a precision piece then it wouldn't be worth it to you, if you were looking at $1500+ guns that this gun and trigger kit beats out then its a different story. There is a point of diminishing returns on trigger jobs, no shit, that's not the point though.
As a competitive shooter I have done two SP 01 Shadows and a P09 Duty with Cajun Gun Works goodies and they are amazing a noticible difference even after I reworked the factory lockwork I consider it money well spent and if there is a Shadow 2 in the near future it also will get Cajunized no problems here
The CJW kit is not only to reduce trigger weight. And like many have said your not using the trigger gauge correctly.
I tried a CZ with the complete trigger job, it was so smooth and huge improvement over stock.
Hey, I know this vid is 5 years old, but as a new 07 owner and a relatively new shooter, this was very helpful. Doesn't seem worth the 250, especially for me. The MCarbo spring kit change for $30 bucks seems much more reasonable. But overall, I say get good at the stock before making unnecessary upgrades.
I have a MCarbo kit on standby and came to the same conclusion. I haven’t been able to get my P07 to the range yet but have been dry firing for 2 weeks and the stock internals have already worn in and improved greatly after 1000+ repetitions. (I am using a small O-ring on the firing pin when dry firing in case the retention pin is still a weak point)
Should have done the DA pull in the half-cocked position instead.
What folks need to remember is these are usually not competition guns. They are concealed carry guns. In the heat of the moment one does not feel a crisp trigger or short reset.
Amazing how much smoother the SA/DA CZs will get, if you spend that 250 bucks on 1500+ rounds of ammo. Plus, ya know, you get 1500+ rounds of practice/fun with your pistol. Hell, just let some "gun guy" piddle with it for a day, and he'll dry fire it enough to make a noticeable difference
nice comparison I just dropped 18$ for the basic spring kit and I got 8.5 da and 4.4 sa both a pound less that's as far as I'll go
1776 or Bust
Thanks 1776. Yeah, if I had known this was all it would do I wouldn’t have bothered or wasted the cash...
Thanks Brother 🤘🏻🇺🇸
1776 or Bust i did the same 2 months back and refuse to do any more..
Can you post a link to the spring kit you did?
Claymore unfortunately I was referring to my p01 and phantom....its not for the p07
Ah ok. Thanks for lett ing me know.
I installed the M*Carbo spring kit in my P-07 and polished the internals. SA/DA is definitely better than the stock trigger using my uncalibrated finger. I don’t own a trigger scale so no data. I just ordered the short trigger return kit from CGW. Hoping it makes an improvement.
...these 2 things are all you need...the reset is definitely noticably better with the CGW reset kit...
I've used Cajun stuff on my CZ clones and it was a GREAT improvement. My CZ p07 is still stock and needs no improvement. I have the older CZ p07 Duty. I also LOVE CZ rifles.
I too have the duty model and it has a superb action. I don't feel the need to change it at all
Good to know. Thanks guys. I've seen other videos of CZs with various trigger jobs and often wondered why the guys doing the reviews were so positive when I couldn't see any visibly obvious benefits. I'll save money.
Sand-Paper-Pistol-Grips
Glad it helped someone! If I had it all to do over I wouldn’t do it. I would put lighter springs in it ~$20-30 bucks and call it a day.
Thanks Brother 🤘🏻🇺🇸
Aside from the actual trigger gauge test here which obviously isn’t the best way to do one for consistency. I’ve heard this opinion several times about cg trigger kit. It’s one of the more expensive trigger kits out there for any polymer pistol. And a p07/09 isn’t an expensive gun either. The own
Trigger is plenty good and worth leaving alone compared to this kit.
At that cg kits price it should reduce the pull weight by half be super crisp. Have a short reach, short pre travel, and super short reset. All in my opinion. Good video thanks guys.
Are either of you guys a gunsmith? I have never seen anyone use a Lyman trigger gauge like that - yanking through until the trigger bottoms out on the frame of the gun and then continue to pull. That's probably why you did not get any reading at all on the second pull. Also, the results were so far off (% wise) from one to the next, maybe try 2 out of 3 to see if you get any 2 readings anywhere close. Also, I may be wrong, but isn't DA measured after the slide is racked and the firearm decocked - instead of just putting the hammer all the way down?
Blunt & honest. Exactly.
Sounds like a disgruntled customer I can tell you from experience all I've done was changed out a couple of hammers springs in my CZ's and they were greatly improved just from doing that. So I can only imagine what a cajunized gun feels like
Bro... that's not how you use a force gauge. All of your readings are wrong.
Great video..Thank you so much for cleaning up this controversy over the stock CZ and the modified CZ I have a CZ P-01 and CZ P07 both are stock and the shoot just fine I wouldn’t change anything…
Thanks for info. My brand new stock P-07 shoots great and very accurate, not spending anything on it.
Thanks guys.....You just saved me $250.
Thanks guys! I have a new P07 with about 100 rounds through it. I don't like too light of trigger, as matter of fact the P07 SA trigger caught me off guard at first, there was no wall before break. I was also shooting glock and M&P that day. I like a 4.5-5.5 lb trigger and I like a crisper break. All I would want to do to my P07 is have it break crisper on SA and lighten up the DA pull a little. Any way of doing that without changing hammer or going full kit?
Thanks guys,you just saved me a bunch of money!!! About to send a 75 compact in for full house treatment. Will live with stock gun for now.
My P07 new measured a 3 pull average of DA 9.14.5 oz. & SA 3.15.9 oz. 2 days and 300 rounds later, average was DA 8.15.1 oz
SA 3.11.4 oz. Trigger is smooth as butter. Nothing was modified....simply breaking it in. Later I'll polish things up a bit and should shave another couple of ounces.
I’m think I agree. Spring kit and stone/polish contact points and call it a day.
The Cajen Gun works P10 race trigger is, hands down, the best in the business.
It's take up adjustment screw removes ALL the take up. Actually better than the fabled Walter PPQ Match trigger. (I own both...).
Also, without the spring kit, similar trigger pull weights is stupid obvious!
The hammer fired pistol, when fully tuned, will always beat a striker fired pistol. However the P10 comes pretty damn close!!!
Stay safe...shoot often!!!
Great to see the comparison! Looks like the Cajun is working well. May have to check it out!
I should add I will probably just go with the springs. I agree, the price is high for what you get on the whole package.
KSGunGuy
Yes sir! Thanks KS! 🤘🏻🇺🇸
I just did mine and with polishing all metal to metal contact, using my Lyman trigger gauge, I am consistently pulling 7lb 12oz DA and 2lb 14oz SA! Trigger still has a bit of slop in it though! Hoping a few hundred rounds next sunday will break it in a little bit and knock off a couple ounces of trigger weight from both DA/SA!
The difference in my 75 is astronomical, sad to hear the p07 kit is a bit of a lemon. I converted my manual safety 75 to sao, with a light trigger return spring, free float trigger pin, sao flat trigger, and race hammer kit. Costed about $230 and it's doing 1.8lbs with no over travel on pull or reset.
These people don’t know what they’re talking about my cajun kit dropped my SA to 2.6lbs from 3.5 and my DA is now 7.7lb from 8.8
It's your money but for me spending $20 for a MCARBO spring & pin kit and a 30 min. polish made a better choice. Spending the extra $$ on ammo made it even better & my accuracy improved too.
Did you polish your internals while you were installing the parts? I polished everything and it made a massive difference.
I've spent $300 on a trigger that made my M&P amazing, but if there's no difference not worth it.
First don’t jerk the trigger pull gauge when checking the trigger weight. Second, you should have measured the double action pull from 1/4 cock where the decocker puts the hammer not hammer fully down.
This is a joke of a video. Why no up close camera work? CGW has thousands of satisfied customers, me being one of them. You bash a company without ever sending it in to see if they could make it right, or you installed it yourself wrong and won’t admit failure. There’s a reason so many professional shooters Cajunize guns like the sp01 Shadow which already has an outstanding trigger, David and his son definitely know what they’re doing. Apparently you guys don’t. Btw, Cz p01 da before CGW was 14 pounds, sa was 5.75 pounds, reset was twice the distance after pro package da is 9 pounds and sa is 3.5 pounds. CGW and CzC are both top notch companies. You sound salty because you had to actually buy your own stuff rather than have it sent to you free for UA-cam gun expert testing. Lmfao
fanboys man...
how are you going to condescend to these guys for not following through with due diligence when you know nothing about them? I would say they seemed reasonable and not "salty." You just went full 9/11 right away and accused them of being clueless and screwing up the install. Go be a fanboy somewhere else.
What bashing? They're doing a fucking comparison test. That's not allowed?
All I did to mine was cgw reduced trigger return spring and it made a world of difference. Wouldn’t really want to make any lighter.
Thanks, I was considering that upgrade kit. I will not now...
10 lbs is too much for me , prefer a 5 lb DA pull and like a 2.5 or 3 lb SA pull, otherwise why not just go with a striker fired carry gun. The single action trigger pull needs to be light, fast , and accurate , the double action pull can be heavier. like a carry gun would be. if you have a light trigger then the double action would be useful. if you dont have a light single action trigger just change the decocker to a safety and run it like that. thats just my opinion
looks like dummy one tried to install his own kit and failed, dummy 2 doesn't know how use a trigger gage
Pretty much what I was thinking
I think you pull hard on the Cajun gun works gun. And I think it’s important to know how many rounds did the non Cajun gun work has? There is such thing as polishing naturally by running more rounds through the gun or do the polishing diy to speed up the feel of a used gun. I have a sig 226 and after I install the srt kit and change the mainspring to 17lbs from 20 and also the sear spring. The trigger feels gritty. Before upgrading into srt I have put around 3000 rounds through it. I think the trigger feel is much better before the srt installation. Thanks for the video anyway
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE VIDEO!!! i thinkthey put something up saying the hammer spring doesnt work well with federal or winchester now ill just replace screws thats it
Good info. I put together a $190 CGW parts list for my SP-01 for SAO flat face trigger. I have been dragging my feet because I want 100% reliability...and that cz ran very well last week bone stock. A UA-cam friend let me pull the tiger on his same model cz...felt very close to the T.S. trigger pull and travel...I'm still tempted.
Glocked 17
Cool! I bet the SP-01 SAO trigger would feel much better. These having the Omega Trigger System in them I think is a little different. I just know my experience wasn’t the greatest with their parts specifically for the p07-p09. Basically I got a little bit lighter trigger (not by much) and a crisper single action break (which wasn’t bad to begin with) for the grand total of $250 bucks. Hell thats nearly halfway to another nice pistol or rifle. Lol. Oh well, we live and learn.
Thanks Brother! 🤘🏻🇺🇸
7UP 3Down. This video really makes me want to stay away from altering a CZ.
Most videos tend to oversell whatever it is that they are testing. It's nice to see someone just lay the bare truth out there. When you think about it, it's kind of dumb to assume that CZ doesn't know how to build a trigger.
lol...what a silly comment...ofcourse they do but they aren't going to fine tune a mass produced $500 hand gun for optimum performance or they would have no reason to sell their higher end guns...you don't seem to understand what's being discussed...
Really appreciate this video. I took my new Rami to range and it seemed pretty smooth out of the box. So I was wondering if I'd noticed any difference. Thank you both for helping me answer that question. For now, I'll spend the extra $200 on ammo and time at range.
You guys just saved me over $300. I’ve got the paperwork and was ready to ship it to CGW. No doubt they have a good rep, but I’m all about making smart investments on my guns. I went bananas on my first ever handgun (G19) and I’ve since taken it all back to stock. I’ll keep my p07 plain Jane (except for sights...which I can now afford). Thanks for the review!
Great (honest review). I've kicked around doing a kit on my P07. Think I'll just leave well enough alone. My CZ is my go to owb carry/car carry/no bs I need a gun, gun.
even though the trigger pulls were no where near consistent for proper testing, You did save me some $$$ cuz I would not do a Cajun works after watching this.
Aside from the reset that does look the same, is to get that snap out of the omega trigger system. Some of these omega triggers are super light and clean, but others are heavy and gritty; however they push through the break more than they snap. I did the competition spring, took tension off my trigger bar spring, and my P09 was good enough for me. Sucks though man.
My stock p07 trigger after 1000 rounds trigger feels amazing it breaks at 3.2lbs SA Double action breaks at 8.3lbs when it was new it was breaking at 3.8 and 8.8-8.9
I love my CZ PCR but I could never get the accuracy I wanted with my P-07, it just didn't work well for me personally. Ended up trading it for an M&P 2.0 Compact
FromPlsNerf
Really?? I love the p07 overall. And it’s extremely accurate for me. Close to my Shadow 2 accuracy.
Thanks Brother! 🤘🏻🇺🇸
Pretty strange. Never really heard of anyone not having 0 difference like that after a CJW kit….Everyone I’ve ever seen (buddy has a p10 and a p09 from CJW) and heard of has said they’re night and day. Wonder if it’s worth you contacting them lol.
I'd save the 250 trigger job and use it for ammo. Thanks for putting this out there guys.
HardTarget
Absolutely! 110% agree. It’s just not worth it at all I’m my humble opinion.
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Buy Grand power p1 , great trigger from the box
Bald&curious
Yes sir!! May need too!
Thanks Brother! 🤘🏻🇺🇸
Bald&curious
I still want an Excalibur...they look like badass Guns!
No decock only option for the grand powers. P07 stock triggers are good to go out of the box anyway.
Shhhh dont say that, tis heresy in this land
I'll keep my P09 and P07 just the way they came as a duty gun for the nightstand and a EDC gun. And buy 250.00 of ammo. lol
Always stay with stock it will smooth out
Did Canjun offer to fix the block once you realized it wasn't working? THANK YOU for putting this honest review of Cajun CW out there!
After watching this, i think ill save the money and just do an optics cut.
Thank you for this review!
Thanks for the good info so folks can put money elsewhere....What a bummer as that is a decent amount of cash...Good stuff....
Scott F.
Yes sir! We live and and learn....that’s what being a little bit of a trigger snob will get you. Lol. Wasted money! 🤘🏻🇺🇸
Thanks for the info. reset would be the big one for me
live4wild
Thanks Live! The difference in reset is so minimal it’s ridiculous....not worth the $70-80 bucks they charge for the short reset kit.
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I didn't notice a difference either.
I'm actually quite okay with the stock TRigger . That isn't worth it at all . If it's not a greater difference than that
Somethings wrong with your CZ if you cant tell a huge difference
Yeah, you are better off sending it to a smith for that price and letting them do work on the stock internals.
Tou are not using the gauge correctly. Your readings are way off. I agree it's alot of money but use the gauge right.
Thanks guys. I've been considering this CGW trigger kit but not anymore
I'm fixin' to be picking up a P-07 soon, so this video saved me some money. Thanks 7UP 3 Down and Big J!
I have a CZ 75 sp- 01 with safety, sa pull is 5lb, think one of those kits would lighten it to around 2 lb? Thanks great video
Thank you guys for being honest and for being the test subject. Just kidding!!
I have a S2 done by CGW. Mine breaks at 2 1/2 and 5 lbs
Nice Video Brother, It wasn’t a huge difference like it thought it would be! Carry On
Big Johnson Guns and Gear
No it wasn’t! Maybe save someone else the money and trouble. Thanks Brother 🤘🏻🇺🇸
It did save me some money, at least so far. Thanks. I just got a cz sp01 phantom and was going to get the work done. Thanks to you all, I’m not doing anything until I have 1,000 rounds through it.
johnnybeanz1 thanks Brother, Carry On!
Big Johnson Guns and Gear
This the kind of vid UA-cam was supposed to be about! Thanks again.
Thanks for the share!!
I agree, I don't think CGW is worth it. Sorry you kind of wasted your money. Thank you for sharing.
I really love my P-07 completely stock, don't think I would do anything to it.
Rich4150
Yes sir I wouldn’t spend a dime on mine if I knew then what I know now. Lol. Oh well....is what it is. Thanks Brother! 🤘🏻🇺🇸
what did you say was rubbing? the hammer on the actual frame? are you telling me sending your gun in they didn't fix that?!
I have been deciding to get my P07, RAMI BD and SP01 Tac Cajunized or not.
This is disappointing. I impulse bought the pro kit for my p07 yesterday having heard such great things about cjw...its disappointing I can't send it back.
While it might not be loaded I still see them with fingers in the trigger guard while handling and turning it. Poor discipline
Thanks I agree!!!!!
You just saved me $300. Thanks guys!
thanks…
I was just telling somebody how that trigger kit is a total waste of Money, it's just not ther money for what your getting, id rather buy a Tauras for $250 vs a useless trigger kit
Thx for the info!👍👍
The guys at Cajun are awesome. But I’m not sending mine.
cHEW BACCA
Yeah I didn’t send mine either. Nor will I be purchasing anything else from them. I’ll stick with CZ Custom. 🤘🏻🇺🇸
hey brother. what part of texas are u and big johnson in? im in houston.
Thanks for saving me 250 bucks bud!I appreciate your guy's time to make this video.
Thanks so much for sharing this very important information, you really will save quite a few ppl a pretty penny. Really appreciate the time spent to find this out but what I’ve ultimately found to be the truth is that CZ engineers and produces excellent, almost flawless operating firearms right out of the box. When you buy a CZ you will enjoy shooting it.
How many rounds does Big Johnson's stock P07 have through it? Mine has about 100
Claymore Mine has around 1000 rds thru it I think! TFW Carry On
How has the trigger changed since new? Smoothed out?
Claymore Yes, really no grit & smoother! Carry on
Outstanding! Thank you.
Don't jerk the trigger guage......