But but....LeBron said in his Podcast with JJ Reddick "I am the greatest of all time!" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Nice to see some more MJ stats, MJ was fun to watch, he was always so good!
Value over replacement player is basically like WAR in baseball. It's a cumulative stat, and Jordan has 6 of the top 10 seasons ever in VORP including the best ever (87-88)
I am no LBJ fan, especially in the GOAT debate (it's Jordan by a mile), but talking about VORP you clearly haven't looked at the playoffs. LBJ is 3 of the top 4, 4 of the top 10, and 6 of the top 20 seasons of all time. Jordan is zero of the top 5, 2 of the top 10, and 5 of the top 20. Lebron's best claim for GOAT status is that he has been very good, for a very long time. Which he has been, undoubtedly. He wasn't the best (league leader) like Jordan was. The advanced metrics he did lead the league in (Win Shares, Box Plus Minus, PER, VORP, etc.) Jordan either put up better numbers or lead more times. Or another player did. James isn't HIM, it's that simple.
Yea they lost 3 games in a row to start the 90-91 season, then never again while he was playing. So when you put it all together with that time frame… From November of 1990 til June of 1998 when Mike played the Bulls won 3 championships in a row more often than they lost 3 games in a row.
Thanks so much grobert! Glad you found my channel. 20 years later I'm still looking for someone to surprass MJ. Kobe started coming close. But no one has done it lol.
Jordan was absolutely amazing. Jordan is so good.I watch his youtube videos regularly from his days with the bulls and refused to watch another modern day n b a game. That's how good he is.
Didn't know some of those things and ofc i rushed to check and it is, surprise(not) all true lol. That's the thing with MJ, u don't need to lie, just take any sheet from his cv, it will do. The 40/20 points stat is saying that he was great more times than he was just good and that kinda sums it up. Oh and btw, while doing that he was playing defense also, unlike some wanna lebe from 2day, good work sir, enjoying your videos.
I was watching the 93' finals in Chicago, I was 9yrs old going CRAZY when Paxton hit that 3 and Grant made that block to seal the deal. That era of BB was the golden era not just because I'm a chicago fan, but because there was a handful of teams in both the east and west that had a legit chance to win it all. That to me clearly makes MJ the GOAT considering who he beat. Magic Johnson's lakers, Clyde Drexler's blazers, Charles Barkley's Suns, Shawn Kemp and Gary Paytons Sonics, and the poor poor Utah Jazz with malone and stockton. Not even considering teams like the Cavaliers, the Knicks, the Pacers, on his way to the finals. Has to be the best era of the nba.
How awesome is that!? You were in chicago watchin it in 93 and i was in phx.....it was a struggle for me but I was rooting for Jordan cuz he's the reason I even cared about basketball. My family kicked me out of the living room so they could cheer on the suns. I watched on the 13 inch tv with bad reception in the other room. When Grant got that block on KJ I walked back to the living room doing the Jordan fist thing lol. All my friends hated me that year when it came to basketball. Then MJ retired and they celebrated and I was sad lol. I love sports.
@@TheRealMindCrime That phx team was epic KJ and "Thunder Dan" Majerle to go with Sir Charles. I remember feeling like the bulls might not pull it off because the suns were a tough TOUGH team to beat that year.
Why they keep comparing LeBron to Jordan. LeBron isn’t even top five. This isn’t me speaking from eight or anything if you look at his playoffs. You wanna see what I’m talking about look at Jimmy Hyroller. His video on hardest championships and you look at where Jordan Hakeem Kobe and LeBron how hard the championships were and you will see what I mean LeBron has some of the easiest championships in history
💯 The reason I do this is because everyone under 25 yrs old thinks Bron is the GOAT cuz the media says so. So we need people who watched both mj and bron to speak out. Like us.
@@TheRealMindCrime I get people who sit there and argue that Pippin was better than Dwyane Wade that Jordan had it easier that his role players are worth more than LeBron superstars. The stuff that they say doesn’t make sense.
Michael Air Jordan 23 👑 GOAT Nu 1 Greatest ever Unstoppable Legends 🐐🐐🏀 scoring titles10 🔥🔥🔥🦅 fly like an Eagle jump 48 Spece Jam Games 82 PPG 45.7 72-10 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 no losses 0 finals 🤯🐐🏀
Awesome video. Just got done watching the refs try and give the lakers game 1 against the nuggets. How can anyone realistically look at lebron and think he’s even top 3. And how can anyone who’s a “pass first” type of player even be considered as the goat? Sports is about individuals scoring, the greatest players of all time in all sports are the greatest scorers of all time. And if passing was worth a damn, John Stockton would be the greatest
100% stockton was an amazing passer. Magic, nash, j kid, soooo many better than him at it. So if jordan is better at scoring, stockton better at passing, a million guys better at defense....what is bron the goat of? Other than turnovers of course lol
Stats today should not be compared to stats of past eras... the stats nowadays are so inflated it doesn't make for a true fair comparison. Look at Luka... he would NOT be puttin up these same numbers if he played in the 80s or 90s, jokic would not be doin the same things, he'd b an absolute liability on the defensive end, Wemby would pretty much be confined to just a rim protector bc he would not be able to get on the perimeter and dribble the ball like he does now wit they way they played defense back then. Hell, even steph curry wouldn't be doin what he does if had played back then bc they wouldve gotten physical wit him and run him off that 3 pt line and don't even get me started on lebron... he would probably jus be a role player comin off the bench wit his no skill having ass... wouldnt jus be able to rely on your athleticism if he played back then.
Oh I agree 100% Things are so inflated these days its sick. I do like showing what guys like mj, bird, kobe, etc were able to do in eras where possessions were way lower and stays deflated. Cuz if a guy like AI could get 30 points a game back then then he could easily get 40 today. Makes brons 25 points or these 30 ppg players today not so impressive anymore lol
@@TheRealMindCrime I couldn't agree more. I could only imagine an Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant or a Michael Jordan in this cup cake league we have now. It'd been like Wilt in the 60s, averaging like 50ppg 😆
@@weswarden2216omg kobe, mj, or AI would all be averaging 40 a game easy lol. We wouldn't be talkinf about dudes like booker, tatum, etc unless they bumped up that scoring
14:23 I think in the press conference after the game on the right, Jordan, with a butterfly stitch on his head, and a sharp ass suit, calmly talked on how he should have played better. No bitching at the refs. Just “I gotta play harder”.
I don’t care if LeBron James wins 20 more NBA World Championship rings, just as long as LeBalco Raymone James doesn’t win his 5th ring in this 2023-2024 NBA Finals. And then we can all forever say that both Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant won their respective 5th (FIFTH) NBA World Championship rings in their AGES 30s, and LeBron James won his 5th (FIFTH) NBA World Championship ring in his AGES 40s. Jordan won his 5th ring at AGE 34/YEAR 12, Kobe won his 5th ring at AGE 31/YEAR 13, and LeBron has only 4 rings at AGE 39/YEAR 21. Then more people will start moving LeBron James from his current All-Time 2nd-Place position to legitimately out of their TOP-5 All-Time list. 👍🔥😎
I think most kids don’t acknowledge mj as the goat simply because he is the goat. They dont want to admit that there was someone who played better that they didnt get to see live. Almost like a weird drawn out FOMO thing. Or they see it as a personal attack so they get all emotional. Idk man its just so obvious no matter how you look at it.
If you think 🤔 about it… He really only played 13 seasons! 1984-85 18 games, 1994-95 17 games. His 1st year (2001-02) with the wizards he played 60 games. Had he wanted to go for longevity LeStat Padding, he could’ve played all 20 years. In his 14 years worth of full season games played, he scored 32,292, averaging 2,523 points per year. Had he played another 5 full seasons and averaged 2k points per year, he would’ve shattered Kareem’s record. The 2 dumbass Jerry’s wanted to break up the team and rebuild, which they did, and I believe his only chance to add another tittle or 2 would have been teaming up with Ewing in NY or Barkley in Phoenix or Hakeem in Houston or maybe following Pippen to Portland, but we all know… a GOAT never needed a wild sheep’s help to get the mountain top.
7-2 against 60 win teams in the playoffs, the suns thing is because the gm Jerry loved thunder Dan, and thought Dan was a great defender, so mj was going to show him why he's not , 626 games without losing three in a row, lbj is 1st in turnovers and 2nd in missed shots I believe he will be number 1 in the next 2 yrs . He's 500 away from Kobe.
@@TheRealMindCrime ha! That's awesome. I really liked him, when he came back and put up 50 I couldn't believe it. Cut the clip out of the paper. Back then if you had that injury your career was over. Glad he is still being seen at msg.
I don't recall anyone referring to Dan majerle as the "Jordan killer" only guy I know of that had a nickname even remotely close to that was Gerald Wilkins, Dominique Wilkins brother. They called him the "Jordan stopper" and then he got toasted in the 93 eastern conference finals. Majerle was a good defender but I've never heard anyone call him the Jordan killer except u lol
Lol. It was in the papers before the Finals over here. So word got around. That was a mistake.....cuz Jordan obviously heard about it then lit us up averaging over 40 ppg in the Finals just to prove a point lol. The year before that the Blazers coach said MJ can't shoot 3s so he made it a point to light them up in the Finals with 3 bombs left and right. MJ is just friggin savage man lol
@@TheRealMindCrime ok well maybe that's why I never heard it, I'm on the other side of the country in Virginia lol never saw anything calling him the Jordan killer. I could understand it being printed in Phoenix news papers tho. Tryin to hype up your defensive man and the rest of the team.
I don't care what that guy saying LeBron is not even close to being at the top I don't even put ham in the top 50 so how is he that good his game is weak and terrible
11:53 was fun, but tired him out. Bringing the ball up against traps and stuff. This is part of the underrated stuff Pippen did. Letting him trigger the offense. Dunno what happened to Pippen recently. The Bulls gave him a job “show up to games, sit, be Pippen, we pay you”. He got canned. How? WTF?
He torched the Suns because Jerry Krause coveted Dan Marjele and dared to compare him to Jordan defensively. Also if he could’ve traded Marjele for Jordan he would’ve in a heartbeat.
1:26 back in Jordan’s day, the 3 was every once in a while. Have Hodges/Paxson/Armstromg/Kerr to bomb to open up the lane a little. A fear of a long rebound fast break. Jordan would kill with the wide open lanes of today. Also, no hand checks. I can’t shove you hard to keep you off balance and kill your momentum.
8:42 I couldn`t agree more 😂 Ass/Tov Reg.S - Playoff - Final Jordan : 1.91 - 1.87 - 2.11 Kobe : 1.57 - 1.60 - 1.52 Magic : 2.89 - 3.37 - 3.07 Lebron : 2.09 - 1.99 - 1.89 The other players stay the same or even go up from season to playoffs to finals, but LeBron is the only one whose numbers go down from season to playoff to finals. LeBron's ASS/TOV tends to drop as the big game approaches. I can`t imagine that a player who doesn't focus on scoring and is more of a passer and facilitator would have these shameful numbers 🤣 14:48 Because VORP is a cumulative advanced stat, like Winshare, not just Winshare/48, it favors players with more games played. Nevertheless, Jordan is second to LeBron in Reg.S and Playoffs.
I know 😆 🤣 😂 Regular season is just practice for the playoffs and playoffs are practice for the Finals. So why people spouting out regular season lebron stats like that means something? Lol. The greatest in any sport plays their best when the pressure is on. MJ did just that. I'd like to see a breakdown of just 4th quarters in the Finals. Lebron probably averages like 4 points lol
I think k Giannis's finals over The Sun's is up there. It's nothing compared to how many and just being better than Giannis but he took that over like it was the 90s , he was called for goal tending a couple times because he didn't care and was going so hard. Sorry Bucks fan.....
some made up analytic BS: VORP (Value Over Replacement Player) is a statistic used in basketball to measure a player's overall contributions to their team, when compared to an average "replacement" player at the same position.
Of course he was. That was Birds prime with the greatest Celtics team of all time vs a young Jordan on a Bulls team that had never won anything yet. Bird and Magic passed the torch to MJ and MJ passed it to Kobe. This is how the game goes.
@@TheRealMindCrime AND - MJ never quit after losing. He just worked harder to get better. He built it and earned it... No doubt the Greatest Player ever on so many levels.
Difference between LeChoke and MJ? MJ was extremely good in the regular season! MJ was way more better in the playoffs! MJ was even more better in the finals! Especially in the 4’th quarter LeChoke was worse in the playoffs LeChoke was even more worse in the finals LeChoke got really bad in the 4’th quarter Next time i tell you a story about LeNoClutch and MJ about being clutch in close situations 😂😂😂
Value over replacement player means NO ONE IN THE LEAGUE COULD REPLACE HIM ON THE BULLS OR ANY TEAM. The only reason LeBron is higher is because he won with 3 teams
mj - played in the golden era. real men played basketball. LEzesty ramone shames - played in the soft, zesty, kupkake, no defense era. lil boys walkin around wearin purses an dresses.😂😂😂😂
The Bible says the goat sits on the left hand side of God and will be cast down to hell. Be careful with your words and what you label people. Especially people you love and admire. God Bless
But but....LeBron said in his Podcast with JJ Reddick "I am the greatest of all time!" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Nice to see some more MJ stats, MJ was fun to watch, he was always so good!
Hahahahaa babanababababuuuuuuuut. I said I'm the best so they gotta believe me! 😆 🤣 😂
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He took the playoffs to another level that’s why he is by far the Goat
Agreed. He played best when it counted the most.
Value over replacement player is basically like WAR in baseball. It's a cumulative stat, and Jordan has 6 of the top 10 seasons ever in VORP including the best ever (87-88)
Thanks whenisdinner. Good to know! Also, suddenly I'm hungry
When is dinner buddy? Lol. Jk. I like food.
I am no LBJ fan, especially in the GOAT debate (it's Jordan by a mile), but talking about VORP you clearly haven't looked at the playoffs. LBJ is 3 of the top 4, 4 of the top 10, and 6 of the top 20 seasons of all time. Jordan is zero of the top 5, 2 of the top 10, and 5 of the top 20.
Lebron's best claim for GOAT status is that he has been very good, for a very long time. Which he has been, undoubtedly. He wasn't the best (league leader) like Jordan was. The advanced metrics he did lead the league in (Win Shares, Box Plus Minus, PER, VORP, etc.) Jordan either put up better numbers or lead more times. Or another player did. James isn't HIM, it's that simple.
Can't believe he didn't mention that mj never lost more than 2 games in a row from 1990 to 1998.
True! Sometimes there's just too many facts to list lol. It can go on for days with mj
Woah. That true?
It is true
@@todamoon5270 yup. It's true. Like he would know it's the 3rd if he loses. So he ups he games.
Yea they lost 3 games in a row to start the 90-91 season, then never again while he was playing.
So when you put it all together with that time frame… From November of 1990 til June of 1998 when Mike played the Bulls won 3 championships in a row more often than they lost 3 games in a row.
Michael jordan is the goat his impact to the NBA is unreal too
Everyone playing now should be thanking him for that massive pay check they get.
The title of this video should be "more" facts that prove Michael Jordan is the goat.
Agreed! Bonus facts. Extra nails in the coffin lol
Lol
Absolutely💯💯 GOAT FOREVER ~🌟💫🌟
He's my GOAT too catherine. You know your basketball 🏀 😉
Thanks for checkin out my channel.
I really like ur content bro. And yes, MJ is the G.O.A.T.
Thanks so much grobert! Glad you found my channel. 20 years later I'm still looking for someone to surprass MJ. Kobe started coming close. But no one has done it lol.
MJ the 🐐
Its all about whos second best. We all know whos the greatest
Yes we do my friend
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When it came to scoring NO ONE did it like MJ and for 13 years. As a Chicago Bull MJ avg 31.5 PPG.
Yessir! The man knew how to win and would always credit his teammates and coaching staff when they did. My kind of athlete.
Jordan was absolutely amazing. Jordan is so good.I watch his youtube videos regularly from his days with the bulls and refused to watch another modern day n b a game. That's how good he is.
So do I. I always watch MJ stuff. Can't be beat
Didn't know some of those things and ofc i rushed to check and it is, surprise(not) all true lol. That's the thing with MJ, u don't need to lie, just take any sheet from his cv, it will do. The 40/20 points stat is saying that he was great more times than he was just good and that kinda sums it up. Oh and btw, while doing that he was playing defense also, unlike some wanna lebe from 2day, good work sir, enjoying your videos.
Thank you so much bog!! Thanks for watchin.
Its easy being a Jordan fan. We just spout out facts then walk away
I would compare Bernard King to like a Carmelo Anthony.
Thats a good comparison! Both were mid range jump shooting assassin's
BK played for NY right?
This video would make lebron and his minions head explode 😂
Hahahaha 🤖 👾 🤖 👾 does not compute!!!!! Cannot spin narrative.
How do we submit this to klutch sports? Lol
I'd pay to watch their rection to this lol
I was watching the 93' finals in Chicago, I was 9yrs old going CRAZY when Paxton hit that 3 and Grant made that block to seal the deal. That era of BB was the golden era not just because I'm a chicago fan, but because there was a handful of teams in both the east and west that had a legit chance to win it all. That to me clearly makes MJ the GOAT considering who he beat. Magic Johnson's lakers, Clyde Drexler's blazers, Charles Barkley's Suns, Shawn Kemp and Gary Paytons Sonics, and the poor poor Utah Jazz with malone and stockton. Not even considering teams like the Cavaliers, the Knicks, the Pacers, on his way to the finals. Has to be the best era of the nba.
How awesome is that!? You were in chicago watchin it in 93 and i was in phx.....it was a struggle for me but I was rooting for Jordan cuz he's the reason I even cared about basketball. My family kicked me out of the living room so they could cheer on the suns. I watched on the 13 inch tv with bad reception in the other room. When Grant got that block on KJ I walked back to the living room doing the Jordan fist thing lol. All my friends hated me that year when it came to basketball. Then MJ retired and they celebrated and I was sad lol. I love sports.
@@TheRealMindCrime That phx team was epic KJ and "Thunder Dan" Majerle to go with Sir Charles. I remember feeling like the bulls might not pull it off because the suns were a tough TOUGH team to beat that year.
I do like the “well how many champions did Jordan beat”. Very few. Because all the rings were his.
8:08 a 20 shots per game, “pass 1st” stat padding machine is what he is!
He's stat padding every game. Its disgusting to watch
Why they keep comparing LeBron to Jordan. LeBron isn’t even top five. This isn’t me speaking from eight or anything if you look at his playoffs. You wanna see what I’m talking about look at Jimmy Hyroller. His video on hardest championships and you look at where Jordan Hakeem Kobe and LeBron how hard the championships were and you will see what I mean LeBron has some of the easiest championships in history
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The reason I do this is because everyone under 25 yrs old thinks Bron is the GOAT cuz the media says so. So we need people who watched both mj and bron to speak out. Like us.
Yup. We gotta shut up the young bucks that don't know who MJ really was.
@@TheRealMindCrime I get people who sit there and argue that Pippin was better than Dwyane Wade that Jordan had it easier that his role players are worth more than LeBron superstars. The stuff that they say doesn’t make sense.
I agree 💯
@@todamoon5270Facts 💯
Michael Air Jordan 23 👑 GOAT Nu 1 Greatest ever Unstoppable Legends 🐐🐐🏀 scoring titles10 🔥🔥🔥🦅 fly like an Eagle jump 48 Spece Jam Games 82 PPG 45.7 72-10 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 no losses 0 finals 🤯🐐🏀
“Come on you bronsexuals!” Had me🤣
This is just one of the many reasons Jordan doesn't boast about being the best, his stats prove it for him.
Yup. The real goat lets others say it for him
Awesome video. Just got done watching the refs try and give the lakers game 1 against the nuggets. How can anyone realistically look at lebron and think he’s even top 3.
And how can anyone who’s a “pass first” type of player even be considered as the goat? Sports is about individuals scoring, the greatest players of all time in all sports are the greatest scorers of all time. And if passing was worth a damn, John Stockton would be the greatest
100% stockton was an amazing passer. Magic, nash, j kid, soooo many better than him at it. So if jordan is better at scoring, stockton better at passing, a million guys better at defense....what is bron the goat of? Other than turnovers of course lol
Facts!!!
Facts that prove Michael Jordan is the goat…. The real crime mind said so … debate over
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Lol! You're the best Jessica. Thank you so much.
Straight facts!
Hey mindcrime finally has a female fan!
Tier 1 =.
#1a Bird
#1b MJ
#3 Kobe
Tier 2&3 = Rest of the league.......
Agreed. I have magic up there too
MJ GOAT... Play in the hardest era and have better numbers than most players.
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Best individual player of his era and the best winner of his era. GOAT 🐐
Jordan played his best when it mattered and the same can’t be said for LeBronze 🐐
Yup. MJ rose to the occasion. Bron shrunk and hid.
41ppg in the finals with 90s defense is insane asf.
@@jjnthegoat2200 ydk basketball at all. Who were the bigs
Stats today should not be compared to stats of past eras... the stats nowadays are so inflated it doesn't make for a true fair comparison. Look at Luka... he would NOT be puttin up these same numbers if he played in the 80s or 90s, jokic would not be doin the same things, he'd b an absolute liability on the defensive end, Wemby would pretty much be confined to just a rim protector bc he would not be able to get on the perimeter and dribble the ball like he does now wit they way they played defense back then. Hell, even steph curry wouldn't be doin what he does if had played back then bc they wouldve gotten physical wit him and run him off that 3 pt line and don't even get me started on lebron... he would probably jus be a role player comin off the bench wit his no skill having ass... wouldnt jus be able to rely on your athleticism if he played back then.
Oh I agree 100%
Things are so inflated these days its sick. I do like showing what guys like mj, bird, kobe, etc were able to do in eras where possessions were way lower and stays deflated. Cuz if a guy like AI could get 30 points a game back then then he could easily get 40 today. Makes brons 25 points or these 30 ppg players today not so impressive anymore lol
@@TheRealMindCrime I couldn't agree more. I could only imagine an Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant or a Michael Jordan in this cup cake league we have now. It'd been like Wilt in the 60s, averaging like 50ppg 😆
@@weswarden2216omg kobe, mj, or AI would all be averaging 40 a game easy lol. We wouldn't be talkinf about dudes like booker, tatum, etc unless they bumped up that scoring
LeFlop should be permanetly erased from the conversation.
I agree. Magic, bird, kareem, russel, wilt, all belong in the conversation before lebalco
14:23 I think in the press conference after the game on the right, Jordan, with a butterfly stitch on his head, and a sharp ass suit, calmly talked on how he should have played better. No bitching at the refs. Just “I gotta play harder”.
Yup Jordan the 🐐
You are wise blackcrow 😎
7:30 is a stat for you. Jordan is more likely to score 40 than less than 20 on any given night.
That's one of my new favorite stats right there
With the defense and the motor. Cheat code.
I don’t care if LeBron James wins 20 more NBA World Championship rings, just as long as LeBalco Raymone James doesn’t win his 5th ring in this 2023-2024 NBA Finals. And then we can all forever say that both Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant won their respective 5th (FIFTH) NBA World Championship rings in their AGES 30s, and LeBron James won his 5th (FIFTH) NBA World Championship ring in his AGES 40s. Jordan won his 5th ring at AGE 34/YEAR 12, Kobe won his 5th ring at AGE 31/YEAR 13, and LeBron has only 4 rings at AGE 39/YEAR 21. Then more people will start moving LeBron James from his current All-Time 2nd-Place position to legitimately out of their TOP-5 All-Time list. 👍🔥😎
I hope so! He's out of my top 5 now. The longee he plays the worse this gets for him lol.
Kobe top 3 any day
@@todamoon5270Kobe number 2 in my book.But if his 3 in yours that's cool 😎👍🏾
@@kingjruck6507kobe is my number 2 as well. He earned it the right way
The Nuggets beat the Lakers 4-1 in the first round of the playoffs
6:51 that “double digit scoring” streak didn’t end until the wizards, when Collins put him on a minutes restriction, 39 and all
I think most kids don’t acknowledge mj as the goat simply because he is the goat. They dont want to admit that there was someone who played better that they didnt get to see live. Almost like a weird drawn out FOMO thing. Or they see it as a personal attack so they get all emotional. Idk man its just so obvious no matter how you look at it.
That's a good point
If you think 🤔 about it… He really only played 13 seasons! 1984-85 18 games, 1994-95 17 games. His 1st year (2001-02) with the wizards he played 60 games. Had he wanted to go for longevity LeStat Padding, he could’ve played all 20 years. In his 14 years worth of full season games played, he scored 32,292, averaging 2,523 points per year. Had he played another 5 full seasons and averaged 2k points per year, he would’ve shattered Kareem’s record. The 2 dumbass Jerry’s wanted to break up the team and rebuild, which they did, and I believe his only chance to add another tittle or 2 would have been teaming up with Ewing in NY or Barkley in Phoenix or Hakeem in Houston or maybe following Pippen to Portland, but we all know… a GOAT never needed a wild sheep’s help to get the mountain top.
That's why he's my goat. He accomplished all of this in such a short time. He didn't play 25 seasons lol.
keep it up
Thanks for coming back mica! I will, thank you
7-2 against 60 win teams in the playoffs, the suns thing is because the gm Jerry loved thunder Dan, and thought Dan was a great defender, so mj was going to show him why he's not , 626 games without losing three in a row, lbj is 1st in turnovers and 2nd in missed shots I believe he will be number 1 in the next 2 yrs . He's 500 away from Kobe.
Oh yeah you're right about thunder dan! That is how it went down. Jordan took it personal and torched my suns for it lol.
King isn't remembered because of his knee injuries not because Jordan stole his thunder.
Oh you're right. I remember that bad knee now. He was a hell of a shooter in his prime.
Btw tim i just saw BK in the crowd watching the Knicks vs Phi game right now.
@@TheRealMindCrime ha! That's awesome. I really liked him, when he came back and put up 50 I couldn't believe it. Cut the clip out of the paper. Back then if you had that injury your career was over. Glad he is still being seen at msg.
Actually the only other guard with Jordan and Wade’s distinction is Maurice Cheecks!! If I’m correct he did it with the 83 Sixers
the bail-out first guy....LBJ
I don't recall anyone referring to Dan majerle as the "Jordan killer" only guy I know of that had a nickname even remotely close to that was Gerald Wilkins, Dominique Wilkins brother. They called him the "Jordan stopper" and then he got toasted in the 93 eastern conference finals. Majerle was a good defender but I've never heard anyone call him the Jordan killer except u lol
Lol. It was in the papers before the Finals over here. So word got around. That was a mistake.....cuz Jordan obviously heard about it then lit us up averaging over 40 ppg in the Finals just to prove a point lol. The year before that the Blazers coach said MJ can't shoot 3s so he made it a point to light them up in the Finals with 3 bombs left and right. MJ is just friggin savage man lol
@@TheRealMindCrime ok well maybe that's why I never heard it, I'm on the other side of the country in Virginia lol never saw anything calling him the Jordan killer. I could understand it being printed in Phoenix news papers tho. Tryin to hype up your defensive man and the rest of the team.
Many teams have made this mistake lol. The people writing those articles are dumb for pissing jordan off lol
I remember this too. Whoever leaked that needs to get fired lol. He set MJ off 😆 🤣 😂
I don't care what that guy saying LeBron is not even close to being at the top I don't even put ham in the top 50 so how is he that good his game is weak and terrible
I couldn't agree more paul. It all started when Bron called himself the GOAT. He started a war.
Facts!
11:53 was fun, but tired him out. Bringing the ball up against traps and stuff. This is part of the underrated stuff Pippen did. Letting him trigger the offense.
Dunno what happened to Pippen recently. The Bulls gave him a job “show up to games, sit, be Pippen, we pay you”. He got canned. How? WTF?
He torched the Suns because Jerry Krause coveted Dan Marjele and dared to compare him to Jordan defensively. Also if he could’ve traded Marjele for Jordan he would’ve in a heartbeat.
Lol. Turn over first guy.
Lol. LeTurnover
1:26 back in Jordan’s day, the 3 was every once in a while. Have Hodges/Paxson/Armstromg/Kerr to bomb to open up the lane a little. A fear of a long rebound fast break.
Jordan would kill with the wide open lanes of today. Also, no hand checks. I can’t shove you hard to keep you off balance and kill your momentum.
15:55 mistake here. 2 rounds, 36 holes. 36 rounds would be a week or three.
LeBron James will always be haunted by "Ghost of Jordan's Past!"😢😅
That's what he gets for wearing number 23 and doing Space Jam 2. He asked for it lol.
What about John Stockton the goat point guard
What about him? He's the best pure pg I've ever seen. All that he's missing is a ring but thats MJs fault lol. Glad he got that gold medal though.
People don’t give him the respect he deserves maybe do something on him
8:42 I couldn`t agree more 😂
Ass/Tov Reg.S - Playoff - Final
Jordan : 1.91 - 1.87 - 2.11
Kobe : 1.57 - 1.60 - 1.52
Magic : 2.89 - 3.37 - 3.07
Lebron : 2.09 - 1.99 - 1.89
The other players stay the same or even go up from season to playoffs to finals, but LeBron is the only one whose numbers go down from season to playoff to finals. LeBron's ASS/TOV tends to drop as the big game approaches.
I can`t imagine that a player who doesn't focus on scoring and is more of a passer and facilitator would have these shameful numbers 🤣
14:48 Because VORP is a cumulative advanced stat, like Winshare, not just Winshare/48, it favors players with more games played. Nevertheless, Jordan is second to LeBron in Reg.S and Playoffs.
I know 😆 🤣 😂
Regular season is just practice for the playoffs and playoffs are practice for the Finals. So why people spouting out regular season lebron stats like that means something? Lol. The greatest in any sport plays their best when the pressure is on. MJ did just that. I'd like to see a breakdown of just 4th quarters in the Finals. Lebron probably averages like 4 points lol
I think k Giannis's finals over The Sun's is up there. It's nothing compared to how many and just being better than Giannis but he took that over like it was the 90s , he was called for goal tending a couple times because he didn't care and was going so hard. Sorry Bucks fan.....
Kobe wasnt a starter until his 4th year!
I know! Imagine what his stays would be if he got to start fresh outs HS like Bron did.
Started in the Allstar game in 98
some made up analytic BS: VORP (Value Over Replacement Player) is a statistic used in basketball to measure a player's overall contributions to their team, when compared to an average "replacement" player at the same position.
He like 6 and 11 against Bird
Of course he was. That was Birds prime with the greatest Celtics team of all time vs a young Jordan on a Bulls team that had never won anything yet. Bird and Magic passed the torch to MJ and MJ passed it to Kobe. This is how the game goes.
@@TheRealMindCrime AND - MJ never quit after losing. He just worked harder to get better. He built it and earned it... No doubt the Greatest Player ever on so many levels.
If anybody is the GOAT, and i am not sure anyone is, it would have to be Wilt.
2 miracles 3’s Lebron had no part in and a pandemic… saved LeWilt Jamesberlin from becoming the Jerry West of this cupcake era.
I know Brooklyn. 100% He's always getting bailed out
Difference between LeChoke and MJ?
MJ was extremely good in the regular season!
MJ was way more better in the playoffs!
MJ was even more better in the finals!
Especially in the 4’th quarter
LeChoke was worse in the playoffs
LeChoke was even more worse in the finals
LeChoke got really bad in the 4’th quarter
Next time i tell you a story about LeNoClutch and MJ about being clutch in close situations 😂😂😂
Thats all i need to settle the debate right there!
It was the people and the fans who declared Jordan the Goat....
Lebron only declared himself the goat but acts more like a jackass
Yup lol
Value over replacement player means NO ONE IN THE LEAGUE COULD REPLACE HIM ON THE BULLS OR ANY TEAM. The only reason LeBron is higher is because he won with 3 teams
It’s the passes that LeBron MAKES that gives him the MISPERCEPTION he’s a pass first guy and a better passer than Jordan
mj - played in the golden era. real men played basketball.
LEzesty ramone shames - played in the soft, zesty, kupkake, no defense era. lil boys walkin around wearin purses an dresses.😂😂😂😂
The Bible says the goat sits on the left hand side of God and will be cast down to hell. Be careful with your words and what you label people. Especially people you love and admire. God Bless