Nice comparison. Digitals shine with IR on. Pvs69s with different lens setup gets you nearly 1x view. But non ir performance is still much better on analogs
The newest version use the same camera (Night Eagle 3) and display (V780) but you need to cut out both the camera sensor and display and glue them in a 3D printed "Image intensifier Tube" putting them closer together. @@PitPwny
@@BB-bq1xd I have a full review coming very soon, but honestly the new nvg 30 are much better. I would personally save for the 500$ nvg 30 but if your really tight on cash I would do nvg10 if you are only going to use it for plinking and hiking
Can't wait to see your full video on your gen 2+. I got really lucky and got a good deal on a gen 3 pvs-14. Analog NV is freaking awesome, but I owe a lot of my interest in NV do to the PVS-69 project.
So glad I found your channel! You make great content, and it’s well produced! Don’t give up! Keep holding your craft and you’ll absolutely become one of the big gun tubers. I love how you talk about in review products for the working class Of course we would all love a pair of GEN three L3 Katana NVG’s. But, it’s nice to watch videos comparing products within a reasonable budget. Keep up the good work, bro!
THANK GOD FOR ME CLICKING ON THIS VIDEO!! I have that exact same freaking Photonis “Bushnell XX-2015/P03” Fat Anvis tube in my Mono!! And I knew it was a Photonis tube when I got it from the XX, but I had no idea it was autogated and with the dozens of times I’ve tried googling it and showing it to folks and asking, they no one know it was what you said… wel I’ll be darned !! Thanks my friend!! Did your Monocular come with that Tube in it? Or did you or happen tk get it from a guy earlier last year on eBay ? I got mine there and he had like 3 of em I think. Fantastic tube! I was hard io and that guy helped me out and gave me a bit off, was very kind of him
no problem! im glad you commented and thanks! I bought my tube of some guy on discord who bought it from someone else. I think they said that person got it from a D300 mono. im glad you like yours too! just curious, how much did you get it for and what are you running it in? and if you could tell me who you got it from on ebay i would love that!
keep up the good work, most people don't want to get into nitty gritty details about stuff, most are just "yeah looks good" and they don't actually have anything other than opinion. well done. liked and subbed, can't wait to see more
Have you considered using thermal sensors in the PVS69 housing? Ive been researching ways to overlay thermal input over digital NV input in a single display, but have had very little luck. I feel like this would be the best way to make digital NVGs competitive, or even better, than analog units.
@@extrudedshoots I figure if AGM can put out a thermal monocular for $500 with a true 1x and decent specs, we should be able to put one together slightly cheaper, and there has to be a relatively easy way to overlay two inputs onto one display.
@@BuckF0eJiden maybe. Decent thermal cores right now run for even 1k on the budget side so I’m not to hopeful. It would be pretty neat to see something around 500$ tho I agree
@extrudedshoots why not salvage the core out of one of the AGM Taipans? Already comes with the germanium lense. They have a very decent core from what I've seen out of my 10-256.
@@extrudedshoots like, if you could use the guts of one of the Taipans to overlay a thermal display onto your digital NV setup. Would give you a digital NV thermal hybrid bino setup for like $1500-ish. If you're anywhere near Oklahoma City, I'd be more than happy to let you take a look at my Taipan and see what you think?
Great vid. I won both the NVG10 and the Opsin. Really for the money the NVG10 gives the Opsin a hell of a run for its money. Yes the Opsin wins but its not like gen1 vs gen 3 by any means.
Great video lots of good information and!! When are you going to do a Video on the 3d printed analog ! That build is really interesting. Looks like a project I want to try!!!! Especially for the price!!!!
Glad that the NVG 10 does not require IR illumination to work. I'm trying to move away from the larger Nightfox products which require an IR emitter to work. Thank you!
The naked eye camera shows enough light to tell cloud structure. Was there enough light to see things on the ground at the time? I wonder if the difference is between seeing a bit and seeing well, or between not seeing at all and seeing well?
Great video of the comparison of the 3. Also I bought the nvg10 gen2 version..there is a difference between gen 1 and gen 2. Cause mine can change between black and white then short press top right button and goes to green. Plus the screen resolution and image processor got a big upgrade which viewing in complete darkness under cloudy sky's doesn't really need for the IR. Also I have recently upgraded the mount to the wilcox g24 since that's what I run on my ballistic and fast bump helmets. Also got the wide angle lens for it as well, it brings the FOV from 32x24 to a nice wide 72x48. Reason I got the nvg10 was I heard lot of good things/reviews on it and plus rather use nvg10 for messing around and use my gen 3 pvs14 for when I really need it. But to be honest the nvg10 is really good for digital and the price. It's great for people just getting into NV plus couple upgrades..mainly the lens...it's actually very impressive. But this is my opinion on the nvg10 alot of people talk crap cause it's digital, but alot of people can't afford 1500-10k plus on NV I lucked out on my pvs14 gen3 couple yrs back. So for anyone wanting to get into NV the nvg10 gen2 make sure it's the gen2 is definitely a great bang for you dollar.
@extrudedshoots I agree the black and white is easier on the eyes and in my opinion a smig clearer/crisp picture. But the lens upgrade is what made it so much better and way better FOV. I also run a mini 940 flood IR on my helmets which I use when it's extremely overcast. Like I was saying the nvg10 are a great digital NV plus doesn't break the bank.
@mikeb0261 I got it for much of the same reasons. I play airsoft and go to Nighttime events maybe a total of three times a year and just can't afford to drop a grand or more on something that I'll use so infrequently. In the case of using it with airsoft, the NVG10 works great so long as there is even a sliver of moonlight. It can switch between white and green and I use both frequently. I'm told that it gives me away at distance since the ir illuminator is always technically on even when the setting is set to off, but since airsoft is fought almost exclusively in close quarters anyway, that argument doesn't hold a lot of water. I got mine for around $450, and for that price and how clear the picture is, I'm very happy with it.
@@SpencerBurkett The IR has 5 settings. Off, On, 1, 2 , 3. Setting 1, 2, 3 the IR is on, and the On setting is actually when the IR is Off. You can test with your phone camera, as it will pick up the IR as a pinkish light when the IR is on.
So one of my first NV devices was a gen 2+ Gp monocular with c mount ocular lens and a custom very nice aluminum housing but lacked any bayonet or mount to use hands free. The tube in it was obviously repotted but had no marking on it. It was one of those 42mm or 43mm diameter tubes. I believe your gen2 is of similar dimensions. You mind sharing what housing you have for your gen 2+ tube? My IIT IS fairly short in length and will probably fit anything I can get into it as long as it’s the right diameter.
I own a NVG10 and the illuminator is highly inconsistent with the on/off indication on the bottom of the screen. In extremely dark environments IR illuminator will automatically turn on while the screen will still show "IR off"
I think the performance of analog NV is impossible to illustrate in a video. Sure it looks close, but in real life its so much better. I have some cheapo Gen 2+ PVS14s and the performance is amazing. Digital is cool in "low light" or just playing airsoft, but outside I can see for 100-200 yards with my 14s, something that digital simply would never be able to do since the illuminators generally dont reach further than 10-20 feet. If deciding whether you should get analog NVGs, ask why you need NVGs. Will you be hunting? Will yoi be doing milsim west style events? Will you be shooting? Are there events near you which require NVGs? Do you have a lot of property? Or are you just going to be playing around with them in your backyard. If its the last one, definitely do digital NVGs. Remember NVGs for shooting require about 1-2k in money to "use". A ballistic helmet, a good mount, a PEQ/Illuminator/laser. Etc.
@@extrudedshoots Oh I don't mean to come off as having anything negative to say about the video, the video is perfect and does demonstrate the pitfalls of digital vs analog, but I just wanted to point out to all the other viewers that night vision looks way clearer/better in real life, as camera footage sometimes makes it look not as detailed.
That 25mm F1.4 C-mount lens has surprising resolution and image circle for the price. The coatings seem ok too, as it doesn't struggle a lot with lens flare. I noticed that it's really just F2.8 at best though, compared to real F1.3 and F1.2 lenses.
Very good content, thanks for posting. Seems the gen2+ is definitely the clearest view. Price didn’t seem too bad either. Any information on where to get those?
So what’s your opinion on pvs 69 vs nvg10? I feel like recording a digital screen with a digital camera doesn’t convey the idea as well as the human eye
iff you can, i would go mono PVS69, if you cannot build one, the NVG10 is def more convenient. NVG10 out preforms in image quality, PVS69 is better in framerate.
This was a very nice video... brother, those Gen II are fenomela.. would you do a tutorial and the parts need it to create your own .. also, is your 3D printed housing on a file that we can download, or do you recommend something better.... that would mount to a wilcox. Mount.. or even a rhino mouth Gen I or II. Thanks in advance. 😊
Thank you! If I get enough requests, I would be happy to make a tutorial! This is not my file, I just bought and downloaded it. It is pretty nice for the tube type. You can mount it using the 1/4x20 threads, so you can use either Wilcox or rhino mounts. The PVS69 alpha is another good 3D printed analog mono, but I have not built one yet so I don’t know how good they are in practice. Thanks for the comment!
From what I've pulled from this. If I want a passive system without the risk of being counter detected, I need to gun for the Analog Image intensifier night vision method. Digital works well but requires IR in 25% or less illumination? Whereas Image Intensifier takes full potential in low light conditions, only needing IR in near or total darkness?
Where would you recommend sourcing the g2+ intensifier? I havent seen anything in a 10160 or 11769 format that comes within the $1400 range. I got a gen3 once on ebay that i had to return due to an emission, really trying to find a budget analog option.
What’s your top pic for a anolog pvs 14 on a relative budget?? Have you seen the pvs 14s thd guys that make the Jerry thermal units are putting out?? Small rugidized nice… relatively inexpensive compared to most
@@johndaviddoesmith4504 the jerry14 is not a bad pick at all. I think my go to rn would be a contract pvs14 used from Reddit. Gen 3 1800-2000 FOM for around 1700-1900$
Hey buddy. I need alittle help... im currently building a pvs 69 monocular for my tracer tactical head harness rig.... im making the counter weights right now. My 69 mono is not yet complete but..... can you tell me the weight of the pvs69 monocular with a cr123 loaded? So I can do my math for the weight. No weight info online. Thanks bro.
Hey dude! There are a lot of different versions of the PVS69 and I’m out of country right now. What version of the PVS69 mono are you making? I can ask around and try and get some info for you!
@@extrudedshootsthe camera recording of the screen does not at all accurately reproduce the display and image quality. less important is green mode boosts the visual contrast. A better representation is sharing recording from the wireless phone camera app for the device
I just want NV within my price range that doesnt create a beacon when looking at with analogs and functions well without crazy delay or a lot of hiccups
Personally I have used eBay and discord discord, but I have heard that there are some good deals on tacswap. If you want good deals on complete units, it’s hard to beat gafs on reddit
@@GuillotineActual there is not one in mind but I would look into the r/nightvision discord. YT has been picky about links in comments recently so ima play it safe. Email me if u can’t find any info
i think if you have 300-400 to use, and you cant save another grand soon. just build pvs69s for now, they are the best to have before going analog gen 2 or more. you can practice, learn how to use NVG cause no one talks about that, you cant just throw them on then go hunt a cartel member at 2 am, you actually gotta Get used to them!
@@extrudedshoots yes! so if you ever find a good deal just get the tube and them if you have mx69 you don't need a power supply if im not wrong. still learning lol
@@TruthPrevails24 tubes have the power supply built in so once you get a tube, just switch it out with the Mx69. The mx69 becomes useless once you have a analog tube unless you have another housing
Hello.. i am keen in getting one of the NVGs. I understand there is IR on most budget NVGs i.e. NVG10s. Are the IR visible to human eye? I noticed some are so bad its practically a purple torchlight which defeats the purpose of stealth when hunting for hogs and dears.
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1:53 I don't understand what IR illuminators are. They say that when looking for laser sights too. I've always wanted night vision but it's like thousands of dollars and I don't understand their tube and housing and all that language. My brain is bad. I think night vision is important. A long time ago it wasn't a really standard and I was wandering around the base pretending to be a spooky cat with an aquired pair but then I saw a bunch of people get hurt but I was the only one who could see. I saved them and nobody could figure out who I was . I always wanted to play with some one more time. Here I'll draw a cat for you. ./l、 (@,.O７ l ~～ヽ じ し f_,)√
It’s basically a flashlight that shines light in the IR spectrum. That spectrum is not visible under the human eye it’s only visible using nightvision.
The easy way to understand is that vision is covered in the Electromagnetic spectrum which is categorized by the wavelength of radiation. Visible light is the section of the EM spectrum which our eye is capable of sensing, but IR is in the section (band) next to that which we can't see, but electronic cameras that are IR sensitive can see. Night vision collects this radiation (photons) and displays the image in the visible light spectrum so we can see the IR band. When an IR emitter says 980nm (nanometers), that's the wavelength of the photon that is being emitted which can't be seen by our eye since it is outside the visible light spectrum, but within the night vision's sensor wavelength range. A regular camera doesn't see IR light because they put an IR filter in front of the lens. If you remove this filter you can then see IR light. Difference between an actual night vision tube vs a IR sensitive camera is night vision has an IIT (image intensifier tube) which takes the photons it receives and then amplifies it by electronically adding to it to make it brighter. An IIT tube has much higher resolution than a digital camera which is why amplifying the photons results in a brighter image and not just a whited out image as would happen when there aren't enough "pixels" to retain contrast when brightness/gain is increased.
How would you like to do a comparison video on my digital budget night vision monocular? Check my page for an idea of just how it looks so you can see it’s worth your time. They are even cheaper than the $300 digital ones you reviewed and much better In my opinion
I would love too! I have seen that system somewhere else and honestly it had me very curious. Hit me up on my business email in my about and we can work something out.
Seeing this, I think the solution is to save up extra money and just get some really nice filmless Gen 3 WP. Fiddling with IR cameras is a fun project, but the performance is one-upped by a simple handheld flashlight.
i disagree. the price difference between these and L3 tubes is so insane they are not even remotely in the same region. there is no question that a good l3 tube will beat everything here, but it costs over 10x as much as these digital units. and still almost 3x as the gen 2+.
just like he said no! lol, 2k for a tube alone. and im not gonna put a 2k tube in a $100 housing... yes. it beats all of them. i can build a full ar and 69s and still work... while you build just NVG. were not navy seals remember that
@@TruthPrevails24 yes, build a full AR and 69's. And then when you're out to goon, you get killed because your NVGs constantly emit a beacon of "I AM HERE"
@@extrudedshoots if the argument is cost then I recommend a Nightcore MH12 pro. Sub $100. It's still required to have an active signal to see, but IR night vision is the same outside of ideal circumstances.
It depends on your use. If you are simply hunting coyotes or pest control, then the ir should be fine. If you are planning for home defense, then nvg is your only choice right now.
Yeah i think people have to chose for themselves if the price is worth it. One thing that I don’t think many people take into consideration is that analog holds its value way better than digital overtime, so resell is much easier and better
Yeah analog I think build quality is probably better… honestly I’ve had a chance to run in the same ten mins my dual pvs69 and then two separate gen2+ pvs 14s and honestly in a lot of ways preferred my pvs 69 that said I’m certain the pvs14s I was looking thru would take a bigger beating
4:53 nvg10 what is that? It looks like the tiny screen you get from an old family camera recorder from the 80s. It's dark like I have cheap phone that claims it has night vision mode for pics and I tried to take a pic of deer in some guys yard and literally it was just dark . I hate this phone it doesn't even turn on the flash light during pics or does flash .
Nice comparison. Digitals shine with IR on. Pvs69s with different lens setup gets you nearly 1x view. But non ir performance is still much better on analogs
So you change the lens on the camera itself? Or a completely different fpv camera setup? To get close to 1x
The newest version use the same camera (Night Eagle 3) and display (V780) but you need to cut out both the camera sensor and display and glue them in a 3D printed "Image intensifier Tube" putting them closer together. @@PitPwny
@@aralskywalker thanks for the reply. I’ll have to check the discord for details.
Bro this is exactly the video I've been waiting for. Finally someone did it🙏🙏🙏 you earned a new subscriber 💯
I’m glad thanks!
@@extrudedshootshey bro question 🙋🏼♂️ are the nvg 10’s worth it ? In your opinion
@@BB-bq1xd I have a full review coming very soon, but honestly the new nvg 30 are much better. I would personally save for the 500$ nvg 30 but if your really tight on cash I would do nvg10 if you are only going to use it for plinking and hiking
@@extrudedshootsthank you very much for the reply, you wouldn’t happen to have a link for where a guy could pick one up ? Cheers buddy all the best.
@@BB-bq1xd goodnitegearshop.com/products/nvg30nvg20-digital-night-vision-monocular-%F0%9F%8C%95 I got u!
Can't wait to see your full video on your gen 2+. I got really lucky and got a good deal on a gen 3 pvs-14. Analog NV is freaking awesome, but I owe a lot of my interest in NV do to the PVS-69 project.
where do u find good deals?
So far the best comparison video among nvg devices. Thanks
Thanks! That makes me happy to hear
So glad I found your channel! You make great content, and it’s well produced! Don’t give up! Keep holding your craft and you’ll absolutely become one of the big gun tubers. I love how you talk about in review products for the working class Of course we would all love a pair of GEN three L3 Katana NVG’s. But, it’s nice to watch videos comparing products within a reasonable budget. Keep up the good work, bro!
Thanks man! I got more stuff coming
Love this type of content, especially the diy nvg stuff
this guy is the reason I got gen 3 tubes for 1600
THANK GOD FOR ME CLICKING ON THIS VIDEO!! I have that exact same freaking Photonis “Bushnell XX-2015/P03” Fat Anvis tube in my Mono!! And I knew it was a Photonis tube when I got it from the XX, but I had no idea it was autogated and with the dozens of times I’ve tried googling it and showing it to folks and asking, they no one know it was what you said… wel I’ll be darned !! Thanks my friend!! Did your Monocular come with that Tube in it? Or did you or happen tk get it from a guy earlier last year on eBay ? I got mine there and he had like 3 of em I think. Fantastic tube! I was hard io and that guy helped me out and gave me a bit off, was very kind of him
no problem! im glad you commented and thanks! I bought my tube of some guy on discord who bought it from someone else. I think they said that person got it from a D300 mono. im glad you like yours too! just curious, how much did you get it for and what are you running it in? and if you could tell me who you got it from on ebay i would love that!
keep up the good work, most people don't want to get into nitty gritty details about stuff, most are just "yeah looks good" and they don't actually have anything other than opinion. well done. liked and subbed, can't wait to see more
thanks man! im glad you liked it. a lot more coming too.
Have you considered using thermal sensors in the PVS69 housing? Ive been researching ways to overlay thermal input over digital NV input in a single display, but have had very little luck.
I feel like this would be the best way to make digital NVGs competitive, or even better, than analog units.
Some people have tried with mix results but I haven’t. But I agree
@@extrudedshoots I figure if AGM can put out a thermal monocular for $500 with a true 1x and decent specs, we should be able to put one together slightly cheaper, and there has to be a relatively easy way to overlay two inputs onto one display.
@@BuckF0eJiden maybe. Decent thermal cores right now run for even 1k on the budget side so I’m not to hopeful. It would be pretty neat to see something around 500$ tho I agree
@extrudedshoots why not salvage the core out of one of the AGM Taipans? Already comes with the germanium lense. They have a very decent core from what I've seen out of my 10-256.
@@extrudedshoots like, if you could use the guts of one of the Taipans to overlay a thermal display onto your digital NV setup. Would give you a digital NV thermal hybrid bino setup for like $1500-ish.
If you're anywhere near Oklahoma City, I'd be more than happy to let you take a look at my Taipan and see what you think?
I purchased an awesome pair of 3D Night Vision Binoculars from TEMU that mount on a helmet for $154 and absolutely LOVE THEM. JUST SAYIN!!!
nice dude could i get a link?
nice to know the pvs69 which can be built for around 500$ for 2 tubes is about on par with the chinese NVG10 in most settings
Yeah the PVS69 system is way more modular
Great review man I've been Lookng for a low budget NVG for now its better then not having nothing, $300 could save your life!!!
Agreed and thanks!
You can get those power cord plug ends in 90 & 45 degree ends.
ik i just have that one available to me rn
Great vid. I won both the NVG10 and the Opsin. Really for the money the NVG10 gives the Opsin a hell of a run for its money. Yes the Opsin wins but its not like gen1 vs gen 3 by any means.
I would love to get my hands on a opsin. Seem like very interesting nods
really wanna see a full breakdown on the one you built yourself thats really cool.
I have some nice glass for it on loan right now so I may just make a short video on it this month for fun
Hey, when is that video coming out on that cheaper analog coming out?? Chomping at the bit waiting on some action.!!! The anticipation
Im not sure! I got off really cool stuff coming soon!!!
really like the gen 2 build you made.
Great video lots of good information and!! When are you going to do a Video on the 3d printed analog ! That build is really interesting. Looks like a project I want to try!!!! Especially for the price!!!!
thanks! the 3D printed analog probably won't come for a while but a video discussing cheaper analog may come out soon!
@@extrudedshootsThat’s even better hope to see it soon!! Going to turn some of my friends in to your channel keep up the good work!!
Oh heck, finally! The wait for this vid was excruciating 🎉
Glad that the NVG 10 does not require IR illumination to work. I'm trying to move away from the larger Nightfox products which require an IR emitter to work. Thank you!
For it to be usable in most conditions the NVG10 needs IR light. There are some conditions were u can go without
@@extrudedshoots Bummer. Was really hoping that wouldn't be the case. Thanks.
The naked eye camera shows enough light to tell cloud structure. Was there enough light to see things on the ground at the time?
I wonder if the difference is between seeing a bit and seeing well, or between not seeing at all and seeing well?
on the nights with heavy overcast or forest, not really. on some of the clear sky nights you could make out what's on the ground.
more videos please. you're just starting to gain momentum dont let it die
Vid to release next week if everything goes to plan! Thank you
Solid video dude! How is the peripheral lens view in person on your analog unit? Any warping or lens flare?
Thanks! There is quite a bit of lens flair and a pretty bad fish eye. Getting a Carson PVS14 lenses should fix that
Will Carson lens thread onto it with out printing a new body? @@extrudedshoots
@@shadezactual2657 no you have to print a different body. It takes like 7 hours ish and i already got one.
Great video of the comparison of the 3. Also I bought the nvg10 gen2 version..there is a difference between gen 1 and gen 2. Cause mine can change between black and white then short press top right button and goes to green. Plus the screen resolution and image processor got a big upgrade which viewing in complete darkness under cloudy sky's doesn't really need for the IR. Also I have recently upgraded the mount to the wilcox g24 since that's what I run on my ballistic and fast bump helmets. Also got the wide angle lens for it as well, it brings the FOV from 32x24 to a nice wide 72x48. Reason I got the nvg10 was I heard lot of good things/reviews on it and plus rather use nvg10 for messing around and use my gen 3 pvs14 for when I really need it. But to be honest the nvg10 is really good for digital and the price. It's great for people just getting into NV plus couple upgrades..mainly the lens...it's actually very impressive. But this is my opinion on the nvg10 alot of people talk crap cause it's digital, but alot of people can't afford 1500-10k plus on NV I lucked out on my pvs14 gen3 couple yrs back. So for anyone wanting to get into NV the nvg10 gen2 make sure it's the gen2 is definitely a great bang for you dollar.
I looked into those lenses they seem meet. I have gen2 aswell I just prefer black and white
@extrudedshoots I agree the black and white is easier on the eyes and in my opinion a smig clearer/crisp picture. But the lens upgrade is what made it so much better and way better FOV. I also run a mini 940 flood IR on my helmets which I use when it's extremely overcast. Like I was saying the nvg10 are a great digital NV plus doesn't break the bank.
Where'd you get the wide lens?
@mikeb0261 I got it for much of the same reasons. I play airsoft and go to Nighttime events maybe a total of three times a year and just can't afford to drop a grand or more on something that I'll use so infrequently. In the case of using it with airsoft, the NVG10 works great so long as there is even a sliver of moonlight. It can switch between white and green and I use both frequently. I'm told that it gives me away at distance since the ir illuminator is always technically on even when the setting is set to off, but since airsoft is fought almost exclusively in close quarters anyway, that argument doesn't hold a lot of water. I got mine for around $450, and for that price and how clear the picture is, I'm very happy with it.
@@SpencerBurkett The IR has 5 settings. Off, On, 1, 2 , 3.
Setting 1, 2, 3 the IR is on, and the On setting is actually when the IR is Off. You can test with your phone camera, as it will pick up the IR as a pinkish light when the IR is on.
So one of my first NV devices was a gen 2+ Gp monocular with c mount ocular lens and a custom very nice aluminum housing but lacked any bayonet or mount to use hands free. The tube in it was obviously repotted but had no marking on it. It was one of those 42mm or 43mm diameter tubes. I believe your gen2 is of similar dimensions.
You mind sharing what housing you have for your gen 2+ tube? My IIT IS fairly short in length and will probably fit anything I can get into it as long as it’s the right diameter.
it is a 3D printed toto magfed housing, i have it linked in the description. I would lvoe to see a video of your tube in action!
I own a NVG10 and the illuminator is highly inconsistent with the on/off indication on the bottom of the screen. In extremely dark environments IR illuminator will automatically turn on while the screen will still show "IR off"
I have had the same experience. The only way I have found that I can keep it turned off was having it on the “IR on” standby mode.
on the nvg10, ir 1 means ir off. ir 0 is actually ir 1.
nightfox prowl vs the pvs69 would be awesome. ive seen it go up against the nvg10s and beat it hands down and its cheaper too.
Might have to look into that thanks!
@@extrudedshoots nightfox might actually send one to you to review. give it a try.
I think the performance of analog NV is impossible to illustrate in a video. Sure it looks close, but in real life its so much better. I have some cheapo Gen 2+ PVS14s and the performance is amazing. Digital is cool in "low light" or just playing airsoft, but outside I can see for 100-200 yards with my 14s, something that digital simply would never be able to do since the illuminators generally dont reach further than 10-20 feet.
If deciding whether you should get analog NVGs, ask why you need NVGs. Will you be hunting? Will yoi be doing milsim west style events? Will you be shooting? Are there events near you which require NVGs? Do you have a lot of property? Or are you just going to be playing around with them in your backyard. If its the last one, definitely do digital NVGs.
Remember NVGs for shooting require about 1-2k in money to "use". A ballistic helmet, a good mount, a PEQ/Illuminator/laser. Etc.
Agreed. Analog performance is something that you just have it experience in person but this is the best I couuld do lol.
@@extrudedshoots Oh I don't mean to come off as having anything negative to say about the video, the video is perfect and does demonstrate the pitfalls of digital vs analog, but I just wanted to point out to all the other viewers that night vision looks way clearer/better in real life, as camera footage sometimes makes it look not as detailed.
@@Kajacot thanks I didn’t think you where negative at all lol. Just right. I might get a camera adapter for the tubes to get it as close as I can
Didn't realize you made the video on the perst that made me buy mine, definitely subscribing. Awesome content my guy!
Awesome comparison!
Im going to try building some pvs69 alpha duals. Have you attempted to do that build yet and what do you think if so?
Not yet but it looks like the new ones are easier to build
IR Off = 940 nm auto (off with day light )
IR on = 0
IR level 1, 2, 3 =850 nm 1w
That 25mm F1.4 C-mount lens has surprising resolution and image circle for the price.
The coatings seem ok too, as it doesn't struggle a lot with lens flare.
I noticed that it's really just F2.8 at best though, compared to real F1.3 and F1.2 lenses.
That’s good to hear. I still plan on upgrading to a Carson PVS14 obj lens tho. May try to switch some out just because they are so cheap.
i’d like a video mainly about your mono with the gen 2+ tube, or just info on it. i’m very interested in that. but also nice vides.
I will definitely make one at some point. Other stuff is being made aswell right now
Very good content, thanks for posting. Seems the gen2+ is definitely the clearest view. Price didn’t seem too bad either. Any information on where to get those?
Thanks! My go to for deals are discord, eBay, and Reddit . I have heard good things about tacswap aswell
Do you have any discords I could join to watch deals? @extrudedshoots
So what’s your opinion on pvs 69 vs nvg10? I feel like recording a digital screen with a digital camera doesn’t convey the idea as well as the human eye
iff you can, i would go mono PVS69, if you cannot build one, the NVG10 is def more convenient. NVG10 out preforms in image quality, PVS69 is better in framerate.
This was a very nice video... brother, those Gen II are fenomela.. would you do a tutorial and the parts need it to create your own .. also, is your 3D printed housing on a file that we can download, or do you recommend something better.... that would mount to a wilcox. Mount.. or even a rhino mouth Gen I or II. Thanks in advance. 😊
Thank you! If I get enough requests, I would be happy to make a tutorial! This is not my file, I just bought and downloaded it. It is pretty nice for the tube type. You can mount it using the 1/4x20 threads, so you can use either Wilcox or rhino mounts. The PVS69 alpha is another good 3D printed analog mono, but I have not built one yet so I don’t know how good they are in practice. Thanks for the comment!
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From what I've pulled from this. If I want a passive system without the risk of being counter detected, I need to gun for the Analog Image intensifier night vision method.
Digital works well but requires IR in 25% or less illumination? Whereas Image Intensifier takes full potential in low light conditions, only needing IR in near or total darkness?
pretty much. Analog is the best for so many reasons. check out my new video on this!
Excellent video Sir. Thank You.
Where would you recommend sourcing the g2+ intensifier? I havent seen anything in a 10160 or 11769 format that comes within the $1400 range. I got a gen3 once on ebay that i had to return due to an emission, really trying to find a budget analog option.
eBay and discord. Getting good deals on mx10160 and 11769 is pretty hard right now but 10130 and other tubes should be pretty easy
Awesome video. Definitely subbing!
Fantastic job👍👍👍👍
Sorry if I missed it, what is the magnification on the NVG10? It always seemed a little zoomed in compared to the others.
1x. It looks zoomed in because the field of view is so narrow
@@extrudedshoots When not zoomed in, it's field of view is 25 degrees.
@@starsandnightvision compared to a analog device or the PvS69, that is quite narrow
@@extrudedshoots Yes, i know. Have a look at the NVG30, it has 40 degrees.
@@starsandnightvision I have a connection and may be reviewing one soon
Thanks have two out of the three and have been very on the fence about going analog and weather I really need or want to
What’s your top pic for a anolog pvs 14 on a relative budget?? Have you seen the pvs 14s thd guys that make the Jerry thermal units are putting out?? Small rugidized nice… relatively inexpensive compared to most
@@johndaviddoesmith4504 the jerry14 is not a bad pick at all. I think my go to rn would be a contract pvs14 used from Reddit. Gen 3 1800-2000 FOM for around 1700-1900$
Great video! Can’t wait to watch ur more in depth videos on these 📟💯
Overall best is the green!
Agreed! That comes with the price tho
Hey buddy. I need alittle help... im currently building a pvs 69 monocular for my tracer tactical head harness rig.... im making the counter weights right now. My 69 mono is not yet complete but..... can you tell me the weight of the pvs69 monocular with a cr123 loaded? So I can do my math for the weight. No weight info online. Thanks bro.
Hey dude! There are a lot of different versions of the PVS69 and I’m out of country right now. What version of the PVS69 mono are you making? I can ask around and try and get some info for you!
@@extrudedshoots digital. Mx69. Also I'll be playing with the nvg30 here soon. Have you messed with it yet?
Haven't even watched it yet but Ik it's a banger.
I bought an nvg10 after wanting one for like a year and then realized I would never need to use it so I returned it lol
thats fair. it's a neche device
Where do you get Pvs 69 for $300?? I would have been had them!
You have to build them and print them yourself
I've been looking for an analog NV housing for a long time. I was about to give up and just design one myself 😅
what tube do you have?
@@extrudedshoots I don't have a tube yet. I was going to assemble the enclosure and then find a tube to put in it. Any recommendations?
@@lucasward9506 toto magfed or PVS69 mono
Este guapo habla una lengua superior ❤
So where do I buy the first one
That model is not being sold anymore but the newer models are available at the link in the description
Where can I buy the geb 2 for 1300? I looked on line they over $2500..someone help me
Used if u get lucky. Check Reddit and eBay and u may get a good deal.
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Whats better the nvg10 or the pvs69 ? And are the pvs69 using eagle 3 cams ?
Imo the PVS69 but you can get a better image with the nvg10
I have duals of both and the pvs 69 is far superior for the one main reason… no lag
If the nvg 10 could loose that lil lag it would be tits
@@johndaviddoesmith4504 agreed
@@johndaviddoesmith4504 Have a look at its succesor NVG30 then, they claim it's practically lag free.
Wonder how it compares to the nvg30
Some comparison may come soon. I have a NvG30 and I am blown away by its performance.
@@extrudedshoots dude that’s awesome to hear! Also thanks for the quick reply! Your content is top notch! If you post more you’d blow up!
@@JPFB-yp6pw no problem! Thanks for the complements lol! I’m keeping up the work so some really cool stuff is coming
Where can I buy pvs69’s
Vons website or the discord
Do you have a recommendation for a charger for rechargable cr123?
I don’t use rechargeable bc they tend to have funky voltages sorry
@@extrudedshoots ah, I assumed those were.
Test these out with optics like Primary Arms SLx 3x Micro
I could try it with a Primary arms lpvo if you wanted to.
I have a NVG 10 and this is bunk anaylsis.
How so? Just curious. If you would like to provide some footage I would be happy to share.
@@extrudedshootsthe camera recording of the screen does not at all accurately reproduce the display and image quality. less important is green mode boosts the visual contrast. A better representation is sharing recording from the wireless phone camera app for the device
@@Vskayp974 that’s fair but that goes far all of the devices here. I prefer white and black aswell.
❤ nice Mono-housing hehe
thanks hehe. ill make a full vid about it later and leave a whle bunch of links to you!
I just want NV within my price range that doesnt create a beacon when looking at with analogs and functions well without crazy delay or a lot of hiccups
@@TacticoolVIKINGBeard one day that will come hopefully. Right now Goodluck doing that with less than 1.3k
Where is the best place to find cheap tubes?
Personally I have used eBay and discord discord, but I have heard that there are some good deals on tacswap. If you want good deals on complete units, it’s hard to beat gafs on reddit
@@extrudedshoots any way you could link the discord?
@@GuillotineActual there is not one in mind but I would look into the r/nightvision discord. YT has been picky about links in comments recently so ima play it safe. Email me if u can’t find any info
can nvg j arm and skull crusher mount to an atn ots xlt thermal monocular
If it has a 1/4 20 threads on the side maybe. Idk sorry try google
i think if you have 300-400 to use, and you cant save another grand soon. just build pvs69s for now, they are the best to have before going analog gen 2 or more. you can practice, learn how to use NVG cause no one talks about that, you cant just throw them on then go hunt a cartel member at 2 am, you actually gotta Get used to them!
Not a bad idea. If you build the current version too, your housings I compatible with analog tubes and glass aswell for future upgrades
@@extrudedshoots yes! so if you ever find a good deal just get the tube and them if you have mx69 you don't need a power supply if im not wrong. still learning lol
@@TruthPrevails24 tubes have the power supply built in so once you get a tube, just switch it out with the Mx69. The mx69 becomes useless once you have a analog tube unless you have another housing
@@extrudedshoots oh okay! so the Mx69 is just to allow you run a digital setup in a analog housing yeah!? so then when your ready to switch you can?
@@TruthPrevails24 yeah that’s Excactly it! Still super useful imo
Parts and files for the gen 2+? I’m trying to help a buddy get into nvgs
The IIT for the file is so obscure that I doubt u could find one but shoot me an email if your interested
Whats the tube format?
@@MinuteBracelet mx868 or inverted fat anvis
The website for the gen2 seems a little sketchy
Any other places you'd recommend?
Cults3D is safe I have used it multiple times. You might be able to get it directly from the designer via discord
Hello.. i am keen in getting one of the NVGs. I understand there is IR on most budget NVGs i.e. NVG10s. Are the IR visible to human eye? I noticed some are so bad its practically a purple torchlight which defeats the purpose of stealth when hunting for hogs and dears.
its notable but not too bad
I think I can only understand if it's drawn with memes and cartoons. I wish I wasn't born this way
For me it's an anime girl thumbnail, even if the subject matter has nothing to do with anime. Makes the smooth monkey brain activate.
We are NVG10 night vision device supplier and manufacturer in China , Currently we have latest developed night vision devbice NVG30 , Iif you are interestedi n it , please let me know .
Hello! I already have a NVG30 and currently making a review on it! I like it a lot and much more than the NVG10. Thank you though!
Bro jump scared me at 8:07
Analog op
4:21, 50 percent of moon, and a almost zero visible area. I think, this is wrong setup on digital tubes. There is quite good environment for NV tubes.
this was heavy overcast and raining. i could not even see the moon
But night time is for sleeping, id have to ask my mom for permission to go operating after dark.
She gave me permission but idk about your mom
1:53 I don't understand what IR illuminators are. They say that when looking for laser sights too. I've always wanted night vision but it's like thousands of dollars and I don't understand their tube and housing and all that language. My brain is bad.
I think night vision is important. A long time ago it wasn't a really standard and I was wandering around the base pretending to be a spooky cat with an aquired pair but then I saw a bunch of people get hurt but I was the only one who could see. I saved them and nobody could figure out who I was . I always wanted to play with some one more time. Here I'll draw a cat for you.
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It’s basically a flashlight that shines light in the IR spectrum. That spectrum is not visible under the human eye it’s only visible using nightvision.
@@extrudedshoots so if I use IR turn everyone with ir can see eachothers spot?
yes@@t.m9341
The easy way to understand is that vision is covered in the Electromagnetic spectrum which is categorized by the wavelength of radiation. Visible light is the section of the EM spectrum which our eye is capable of sensing, but IR is in the section (band) next to that which we can't see, but electronic cameras that are IR sensitive can see. Night vision collects this radiation (photons) and displays the image in the visible light spectrum so we can see the IR band. When an IR emitter says 980nm (nanometers), that's the wavelength of the photon that is being emitted which can't be seen by our eye since it is outside the visible light spectrum, but within the night vision's sensor wavelength range. A regular camera doesn't see IR light because they put an IR filter in front of the lens. If you remove this filter you can then see IR light. Difference between an actual night vision tube vs a IR sensitive camera is night vision has an IIT (image intensifier tube) which takes the photons it receives and then amplifies it by electronically adding to it to make it brighter. An IIT tube has much higher resolution than a digital camera which is why amplifying the photons results in a brighter image and not just a whited out image as would happen when there aren't enough "pixels" to retain contrast when brightness/gain is increased.
How would you like to do a comparison video on my digital budget night vision monocular? Check my page for an idea of just how it looks so you can see it’s worth your time. They are even cheaper than the $300 digital ones you reviewed and much better In my opinion
I would love too! I have seen that system somewhere else and honestly it had me very curious. Hit me up on my business email in my about and we can work something out.
@@extrudedshoots awesome, I hit you up 👍 let’s get it
Got the email! I’ll respond fully Monday. Only good things
Seeing this, I think the solution is to save up extra money and just get some really nice filmless Gen 3 WP.
Fiddling with IR cameras is a fun project, but the performance is one-upped by a simple handheld flashlight.
i disagree. the price difference between these and L3 tubes is so insane they are not even remotely in the same region. there is no question that a good l3 tube will beat everything here, but it costs over 10x as much as these digital units. and still almost 3x as the gen 2+.
just like he said no! lol, 2k for a tube alone. and im not gonna put a 2k tube in a $100 housing... yes. it beats all of them. i can build a full ar and 69s and still work... while you build just NVG. were not navy seals remember that
@@TruthPrevails24 yes, build a full AR and 69's.
And then when you're out to goon, you get killed because your NVGs constantly emit a beacon of "I AM HERE"
@@extrudedshoots if the argument is cost then I recommend a Nightcore MH12 pro. Sub $100. It's still required to have an active signal to see, but IR night vision is the same outside of ideal circumstances.
It depends on your use. If you are simply hunting coyotes or pest control, then the ir should be fine. If you are planning for home defense, then nvg is your only choice right now.
Analog looks so much better but it's way more expensive
Yeah i think people have to chose for themselves if the price is worth it. One thing that I don’t think many people take into consideration is that analog holds its value way better than digital overtime, so resell is much easier and better
Yeah analog I think build quality is probably better… honestly I’ve had a chance to run in the same ten mins my dual pvs69 and then two separate gen2+ pvs 14s and honestly in a lot of ways preferred my pvs 69 that said I’m certain the pvs14s I was looking thru would take a bigger beating
IR is no good for anything not directly in front of the light.
Eh kinda ig
4:53 nvg10 what is that? It looks like the tiny screen you get from an old family camera recorder from the 80s. It's dark like I have cheap phone that claims it has night vision mode for pics and I tried to take a pic of deer in some guys yard and literally it was just dark . I hate this phone it doesn't even turn on the flash light during pics or does flash .
Just the refresh rate acting funky. The picture is of a solar panel
@@extrudedshootsI posted other questions but UA-cam deleted them
@@extrudedshootsI'm confused with the video timings of model comparison between ir and no ir. It jumped around and I couldn't get a back to back .
@@t.m9341 This is a comparison between units, not if ir was on or not