SPOILER... . . . . . . . lol I have watched these movies enough times to know that he got offed when they were running away from the infected in the mall, it does feels like he just disappeared but thats cus they get him offscreen also my bad if I said something wrong english isn't my first language
@@vitorneves782 Spoiler too........ Yeah, like he was off screen, the thing is nobody's even asked like, Where is Jack? (We just know he died but at least they should've showed us how right?) Even when they were escaping off WCKD, they didn't even talked about him. They just kept running.
@@paperlynlozano4989 Spoiler again 😅….. Yeah totally, one of the times I was rewatching it I had to pause and go back to understand why he disappeared and I assumed it happened when they were running to the stairs and two infected jumps on “someone” who was behind, at least I assumed it was him cus he was always in the background and Winston had a face of pure shock, but they def should have talked about it, just felt like he was never with them
@@vitorneves782 I think he died in the elevator, where Thomas and Teresa got seperated, and Thomas said go around, Jack scene was cut-off then. The next scene is when Newt almost got bitten and before they got stucked in the hallway, this is where I realized he was missing. Nonetheless it was a great movie. 👌👍
Oh, and Newt was the boy who really believed in Thomas and encouraged him to get out of the glade when Gally took over. He was a true friend of Thomas and wanted the best for everybody. He was called the glue because he's always on Thomas side and just wanted to keep the peace between them all. I love Newt.
I am with Sam, after watching this movie I immediately went and bought all the books and read them and even tho I had watched the movies, I enjoyed the books!! The books are so different, so I think you would enjoy them too even after watching the movies!
Well, to be fair, i also didn't like Gally at the beginning, but after awhile i understood him and why he was so angry. He was not jealous as you say, he was just scared. After all, they all were just teenagers who have been living in that glade in peace for 3 years, they don't remember anything from their past since Wicked had their memories erased before they put them all in that glade. They only remember their names and those names aren't even their own birth names because when Wicked took them from their parents as small kids they changed their names so they shouldn't remember any connecton with their real family. Wicked gave them new names after famous scientist, filosofers, and other famous people. Thomas: Thomas Edison - Gally: Galileio Gallileo- Theresa : Mother Theresa, Alby- Albert Einsten, and Newt was the only british boy in the glade, so he was named after the british scientist Isaac Newton. When Thomas comes up from the box everything changes, so Gally had all right to be sceptical.
"Change" is one of the motifs in TMR trilogy. Things are always changing and chaos results. Thomas was WCKD, now he's not. Teresa was an ally, now she's an enemy. Etc. Another motif is "the mother figure/parents" Chuck talks about his parents, we see Thomas' mother and he remembers her, Teresa talks about her mother, Dr Ava Paige is a mother-figure for Thomas.
Love these movies! Great reaction too! You guys actually pay attention and aren't annoying like some other reactors 😅 Hope you will both enjoy the rest of the trilogy. The Scorch Trials is absolutely crazy! In the best way :) Edit: new subscriber by the way!
Great reaction! The movies are better than the books (even if they're different) imo! don't worry about it. The maze runner trilogy is timeless, I'm looking forward to the Scorch Trials and the Death Cure 😊
i really liked your reaction. the only thing is Gally doesn´t deserve hate. Yes he made some not so good desicions but all that he does has one reason fear. i mean he is just a kid and scared for his life constantly. To be fair from gallys perspective they were 3 years relativly safe at least they knew what the situation was that makes it easier to handle (physicly and mentaly) then thomas showes up and suddenly all hell brackes lose and people are dying (for gally his family). All in all Gally is an insecure kid who´s scared to death and we know all that happend is not exactly thomas fault but i find it easy to understad why gally sees it this way. p.s.: sorry for my writing i have a broken keyboard ad english is not my first laguage :)
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Great trilogy!! If you're readers I'd recommend the books as well, the movies were great adaptations, but still some cool details exclusively in the books
Nice reaction. The "Maze Runner" films are very good and very deep. They're adult and not YA at all. Thomas was a high-ranking member of WCKD before he went into the Maze .... There's a reason why Thomas and Teresa remember things, and it has to do with WCKD. If you know your classics, the "Maze Runner" is a pretty close retelling of "Theseus and the Minotaur," of course. Naturally, Thomas is Theseus, the hero. Turns out, Thomas, in his pre-Glade life, was also Daedalus, a creative genius. Daedalus created the Labyrinth for Minos, just like Thomas created the maze for WCKD. Daedalus went into the Labyrinth, just like Thomas went into the maze. There are other parallels between Daedalus and Thomas. The Glade and the Gladers are Crete and Athenian youth of the myth, respectively. The Grievers are the Minotaur, the monster that feeds on the Athenian youth who have been offered as sacrificial victims. The Minotaur is half-man, half-bull. The Grievers are half-organic, half-machine. The WCKD mechanism that's found in the crushed Griever is Ariadne's thread, the key out of the maze. WCKD, as noted above, is King Minos. In the myth, 7 youths and 7 maids are sacrificed to the Minotaur every year. This strongly implies the existence of an all-female maze. The number 7, which has significance in the film, is undoubtedly an allusion to the myth, too. The maze motif is repeated in the "Scorch Trials" and "Death Cure." The Glade's Crete is, however, more like "The Lord of the Flies (LOTF)" than classical Greece. The Glade is, after all, an island inhabited by boys in the midst of an ocean-like maze. Who can forget the pig that arrived with Thomas, either? Themes in that well-known classic include the tension between groupthink and individuality, between rational and emotional reactions, and between morality and immorality. Things which we do see play out in Thomas and the Gladers. Thomas seems to be a combination of LOTF's Ralph and Simon. His Simon attribute leads us to believe that at some point in the trilogy Thomas will die. Gally, in the first film, probably represents LOTF's Jack. The Gladers eventually split between Thomas (Ralph/Simon) and Gally (Jack) just as in LOTF. Late in the film, Gally proposes to make Thomas an offering to the Grievers/Maze. In LOTF's, Jack proposes to make Ralph's decapitated head an offering to the beast, which represents darkness/fear/the innate primordial savageness of the boys. Despite his sometimes impulsiveness, Thomas represents rationality, individuality and morality. Gally denotes groupthink and emotionalism. The significance of the names that are the closest surrounding Thomas' on the wall will become clear in the later movies. When Thomas and the others arrive in the Glade, they're essentially born into it, actually and symbolically. The water is the amniotic fluid, the glass cylinder represents the placenta, and the person is the foetus. The lift is the birth canal. Like newborns, the Gladers arrive as brand-new persons. They have no identity except a name, which they were christened with by WCKD. So, when Alby says that the creators only let them remember their name, he's not exactly correct. They don't remember their actual name, only their WCKD name. That's why no two Gladers have the same name. You want to be able to distinguish your test subjects for analytical purposes. Since we saw in this film that WCKD can monitor brain function of the Gladers remotely, we can conclude all the Gladers have brain implants of some sort. Clearly, they also would have an implant that would track/geolocate them. You'd want to be able to follow your subject. It's also safe to conclude that an implant is what affects their memory, and it can presumably be turned both on and off. The average Glader is reluctant to answer Thomas' questions from ignorance and fear. The people who know answers, albeit very imperfectly, are the runners, Ably and Newt, and perhaps some of the other keepers. Alby maybe reluctant to answer Thomas because he's afraid of what Thomas might do. The runners function as a sacred priesthood in the Glade. Their map-hut is off-limits to the average Glader. Only when Thomas is anointed runner does Minho reveal to him what is known of the maze's secrets. Why is Newt willing to answer Thomas' questions? We see from the get-go, there's an attraction, a closeness developing between Newt and Thomas. Thomas and Ava Paige tell us the maze is an experiment to stress and test brain function in order to find a cure for the Flare. The "Maze Runner" trials mean to develop, isolate and produce a curative enzyme that only occurs in immunes' brains so humanity can be saved, even if it means killing the immunes. The Flare is the trilogy's MacGuffin. In any experiment, you need a treatment group and a control group. The control group is the benchmark against which you compare the treatment group. The control group must be non-immunes, the treatment group immunes. Some of the Gladers are immune, others are not. The immunes are naturally immune to the Flare. The Griever sting cannot be Flare because all the Gladers have to be at risk of death for the sake of the experiment. Griever sting is similar in effect to the Flare, but it's 100% curable by WCKD. Also, it can't be communicable since WCKD would not want all the test subjects to die if one were stung. Thomas is clearly bothered by Ben being banished. He doesn't approve at all. In fact, it's a triggering event for Thomas. Our tragic hero, Thomas, is super intelligent, very curious and completely selfless. He is so selfless we might consider him impulsive. After Ben's fate, Thomas has decided there'll be no more maze deaths if he can help it. That's why he jumps into the maze after Minho and Alby. Which brings up the question of why Minho is bringing Alby back if he's been stung. The three rules of the Glade make no reference to being stung. There is no punishment for being stung per se. We know the Gladers holds court to decide punishments since Gally prosecutes Thomas for entering the maze in front of such a court. Ben was banished by a court because he tried to kill Thomas, not because he was stung. Minho was bringing Alby back to the Glade out of duty and affection. A court would later have to decide if Alby was deserving of banishment or some other sentence arising out of the second rule. On the other hand, Minho was not obligated to commit suicide to save Alby. He should have left him when it was obvious they couldn't both make it out of the maze, but he waited too long. Later, of course, fear takes over, and Minho abandons both Alby and Thomas to their collective fate. Teresa is an anomalous figure in the first film. She's a girl, her arrival is untimely, and she heralds the end of the Gladers' supply lifeline. She completely breaks the Glade's paradigm. Thomas is ambiguous, too. Is Gally right about Thomas? It's not clear what to make of his dream-visions. Is he an agent for good or for evil? It's certainly his nature to be a catalyst. We know he was WCKD's favourite, the best at solving challenges. Why is he in the maze? Alby wondered the same thing. Also, why are he and Teresa able to recall snippets of their past? None of the other Gladers can do that unless they've been stung. Both Thomas and Teresa are clearly mysterious. After Thomas and Minho first open the #7 gate using the Griever key, they trigger a reconfiguration of the maze which will funnel the Gladers to the #7 gate. This means the experiment is entering its final phase. Common sense tells us the sequence the runners noted previously, but starting at 7, will be the correct code. Only those subjects who successfully exit the maze are candidates for the second trial. Thomas is the archetypal tragic hero. Tragic heroes are characters of elevated stature, both in birth and morality. Like most heroes, he has above-average intelligence, which means he has situational awareness; he's determined, which means he is firmly set in opinion or purpose; and he has a loyal close friend who guides, advises and helps him as he faces his trials. In the films, Newt clearly fits the role as Thomas' helper, his Ariadne. The Theseus myth also emphasizes the power of love. Ariadne helps because she has fallen in love with Theseus. Likewise, Newt is in love with Thomas. As a tragic hero, Thomas is subject to a collective fate, the will of the gods, if you will, which had precipitated the solar flares that scorched the Earth and indirectly brought about the Flare virus. A common attribute of the tragic hero is that he once held a lofty position from which he has now been cast down. Thomas' hamartia has visited his own individual fate upon himself which prompts his present adventure-journey. His moral choices while part of WCKD led him to immoral behavior, the torture and deaths of the test subjects. In this way, Thomas assumed the role of a god over the Gladers. That's hubris. Humans, even if they're heroes, have to be taught they are not a god. Nemesis prompted Thomas' downfall from WCKD and the tragic course his subsequent life followed. Tragic heroes suffer, and Thomas will suffer throughout the films. Another aspect of the tragic hero motif is that those nearest and dearest to the hero often wind up either in some sort of deadly peril or just plain dead. Most often, it's dead. The trilogy manifests several themes. One that runs through all the films, and is the main theme, is the question of whether the end justifies the means. The principle is part and parcel of consequentialism, a teleological theory that says whether an action is morally good or bad depends on its outcomes. The more good outcomes outnumber the bad, the more moral the action. Another theme which we see in this film in particular, is the question of how do different people deal with fear/unknown? This is also very much a theme in LOTF.
don’t worry about reading the books and already knowing what’s going to happen, the next 2 movies deviate pretty far from their corresponding books, but they still are extremely amazing movies, in my opinion they’re better than this one which is still extremely amazing
I prefer the books mainly because the maze element continues in the second and third book, but they dropped that for the movies. They made BIG changes from the second book to the movie mainly because they took out an element from the first book that they couldn't really add back in.
@@CJ77777 Scorch Trial SPOILERS. Well, they couldn't very well do an exact repeat of the first film. In the second film we encounter a maze in the ductwork in Jansen's facility, just going through the facility while escaping is maze-like, the mall Thomas et al. escape from is certainly a maze, Thomas and Brenda going through the sewers is another maze, Thomas and Brenda going through the ruined skyscrapers fleeing the cranks is yet another maze. Etc. Even Thomas' tragic hero's journey towards self-realisation with its ups-and-downs twists-and-turns could be considered navigating a maze. The maze motif abounds in the trilogy. Unfortunately, too many folks view the films superficially, and they miss a lot, and there is a lot in the films to take in. You really need your thinking-caps on when watching them. In the visual language of cinema, motifs serve as powerful storytelling tools. Recurring images, symbols, sounds or actions woven throughout a film’s narrative create cohesion, reinforce themes, and imbue the story with symbolic significance. For example, another great film that uses a maze motif is Stanley Kubrick's "The Shining." The hotel is a maze, the hotel carpet is maze-like, there's an actual maze etc. Actually, both "The Shining" and "The Maze Runner" trilogy have a basis in the "Theseus and the Minotaur" myth. By the way, this is not to say the maze motif is the only motif in either "The Maze Runner" or "The Shining," but, clearly, it's a significant one.
@wilhelm-z4t The reason why it was changed wasn't for any artsy reason or for any deep reasoning. It's because they changed certain elements in the first film (like Theresa and Thomas being able to talk to each other mentally) which then would not make sense in the next film where that is an integral part of the plot in the book. Can't say anything else because of spoilers.
@@CJ77777 Clearly things were changed for cinematic (artsy) reasons. If you watch the Special Features included with the films, even the author realised the necessity for that. You can like or dislike that, but that's just the why it is when making a film from a book. Very broadly, the films actually do follow the outline of the books but differ in detail markedly. Personally, I prefer the films to the books. It's a matter of taste, I suppose. That doesn't mean I didn't like the books. They held my interest and were entertaining. What of it when a film doesn't follow a book exactly? There are obvious reasons why this is rarely possible, and it's often not even desirable. Books and films are two different art forms. What works in one doesn't necessarily work in the other. There also are different creative impulses at work in each. People need to understand TMR books and films as depicting two separate universes which, although inhabited by the same people facing similar challenges, evolve differently. They are going to diverge! and vive la différence!! If all is done well, and the films were done very well, it doubles the fun.
The rest of this trilogy is trash. The first movie is amazing cause of its name and premise. The sequels have NOTHING to do with maze running. They just milked out the franchise to be another version of hunger games.
That's total BS, but I guess if you're stuck in YA mode, you'll fail to realize the Maze-motif is repeated in the second and third film. Also, THG is hardly original or unique. "Battle Royale (BR)" is a Japanese dystopian horror novel by journalist Koushun Takami published in 1999. The novel is about junior high school students who are forced to fight each other to the death in a program run by a fictional, fascist, totalitarian Japanese government known as the Republic of Greater East Asia. In 2000, BR was adapted into a manga series and a successful feature film. The BR novel was translated into English by Yuji Oniki and released in North America in early 2003. The 2008 American young adult novel THG by Suzanne Collins has been accused of being strikingly similar to BR in terms of the basic plot premise. While Collins maintains that she "had never heard of that book until her book was turned in", Susan Dominus of The New York Times reports that "the parallels are striking enough that Collins's work has been savaged on the blogosphere as a baldfaced ripoff," but argued that "there are enough possible sources for the plot line that the two authors might well have hit on the same basic setup independently." "Maze Runner (TMR)," on the other hand, is clearly inspired by the ancient Greek myth of "Theseus and the Minotaur," "The Lord of the Flies," and an examination of the criminally inhumane Nazi medical experimentation programme of WW II. TMR's hero is a tragic hero, and the story the trilogy tells is a tragedy. TMR explores several themes, but the primary theme of the trilogy examines whether "The ends justify the means." This is a principle often associated with totalitarianism, and the phrase has its origin with Machiavelli, although the idea is much older. The principle is part and parcel of consequentialism, a teleological theory that says whether an action is morally good or bad depends on its outcomes. The more good outcomes outnumber the bad, the better/more moral the action. Under this rubric if WCKD finds a cure, then WCKD is very good, indeed. It's clearly rooted in Utilitarianism. It's also worth remembering that all heroic stories generally follow the same pattern. In his book "The Hero with a Thousand Faces (1949)", Joseph Campbell describes this narrative pattern as follows: A hero ventures forth from the world of common day into a region of supernatural wonder: fabulous forces are there encountered and a decisive victory is won: the hero comes back from this mysterious adventure with the power to bestow boons on his fellow man. This is the basic framework of TMR.
@@wilhelm-z4t I did not read your book you wrote. This is not up for debate. As it is a fact my subjective fact in which i did not ask for a rebuttle. Now go get woke to reality. Not the rainbow warrior squad kind of woke. The true woke.
@@wilhelm-z4t And you cannot teach stupid to someone already stupid. But if you want to settle it like men, i am located in Duluth, MN. Anytime. Anyplace. There you can ATTEMPT, key word being attempt, to tell me what i can and cannot like. But you will be looking up at a 6'6" monster who also carry and conceals but most importantly, is willing to go to prison.
If half the people paid attention the question is already answered by the explanation of the maze changing and the fact that the maze is huge in comparison just to the glade so no climbing up top on the walls is a no go much less a death sentence
Those walls are at least 100 feet tall!! I'd like to see anyone build a 100 foot plus ladder out of sticks and branches tied together with vegetation. Try it and let us know how well that turns out. Oh, and after you've built it, pick it up, if you can, and move it around a little to see how stable it'd be. Or would it break up and fall apart? They had few or no tools. No saws or anything like that for sure. So, don't use anything like that. Even if you could get to the top of the inner wall, what would it get you? There's no continuous path to the exterior wall. And if you could get there, it'd be a 100+ foot drop. Good luck!! And shame on Thomas Brodie-Sangster for suggesting this, too. What were you thinking, Newt?
In the books they explain that they have brain chips that make them think it's much harder than it is. Also they are being watched so if there was a path from the top to the outside they'd just start moving the walls.
@@CuddleCakez Yes, I recall from the books the boys were made to think things were a lot bigger than they actually were. The maze was also subterranean. But, of course, the films are set in a different universe than the books.
Man I MISS the years where they came out with all of these these type of sci-fi dystopian movies. Maze runner is one of my favs! Loved the books!
That kid 49:43 in between newt and minho. Mysteriously disappeared in the 2nd movie, no one even talked about him not even the cast themselves lol.😂
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lol I have watched these movies enough times to know that he got offed when they were running away from the infected in the mall, it does feels like he just disappeared but thats cus they get him offscreen also my bad if I said something wrong english isn't my first language
@@vitorneves782 Spoiler too........
Yeah, like he was off screen, the thing is nobody's even asked like, Where is Jack? (We just know he died but at least they should've showed us how right?) Even when they were escaping off WCKD, they didn't even talked about him. They just kept running.
@@paperlynlozano4989 Spoiler again 😅…..
Yeah totally, one of the times I was rewatching it I had to pause and go back to understand why he disappeared and I assumed it happened when they were running to the stairs and two infected jumps on “someone” who was behind, at least I assumed it was him cus he was always in the background and Winston had a face of pure shock, but they def should have talked about it, just felt like he was never with them
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I think he died in the elevator, where Thomas and Teresa got seperated, and Thomas said go around, Jack scene was cut-off then. The next scene is when Newt almost got bitten and before they got stucked in the hallway, this is where I realized he was missing.
Nonetheless it was a great movie. 👌👍
Oh, and Newt was the boy who really believed in Thomas and encouraged him to get out of the glade when Gally took over. He was a true friend of Thomas and wanted the best for everybody. He was called the glue because he's always on Thomas side and just wanted to keep the peace between them all. I love Newt.
I am with Sam, after watching this movie I immediately went and bought all the books and read them and even tho I had watched the movies, I enjoyed the books!!
The books are so different, so I think you would enjoy them too even after watching the movies!
the books are 100 times better
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The Maze Runner Trilogy is AMAZING!! looking forward to these reactions!
The first movie is my favorite but the second is a close second!! The maze runner trilogy is amazing in itself
Well, to be fair, i also didn't like Gally at the beginning, but after awhile i understood him and why he was so angry. He was not jealous as you say, he was just scared. After all, they all were just teenagers who have been living in that glade in peace for 3 years, they don't remember anything from their past since Wicked had their memories erased before they put them all in that glade. They only remember their names and those names aren't even their own birth names because when Wicked took them from their parents as small kids they changed their names so they shouldn't remember any connecton with their real family. Wicked gave them new names after famous scientist, filosofers, and other famous people. Thomas: Thomas Edison - Gally: Galileio Gallileo- Theresa : Mother Theresa, Alby- Albert Einsten, and Newt was the only british boy in the glade, so he was named after the british scientist Isaac Newton.
When Thomas comes up from the box everything changes, so Gally had all right to be sceptical.
the second movie is my favourite, its so good
"Change" is one of the motifs in TMR trilogy. Things are always changing and chaos results. Thomas was WCKD, now he's not. Teresa was an ally, now she's an enemy. Etc. Another motif is "the mother figure/parents" Chuck talks about his parents, we see Thomas' mother and he remembers her, Teresa talks about her mother, Dr Ava Paige is a mother-figure for Thomas.
Love these movies! Great reaction too! You guys actually pay attention and aren't annoying like some other reactors 😅 Hope you will both enjoy the rest of the trilogy. The Scorch Trials is absolutely crazy! In the best way :)
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This trilogy was pretty dope
Great reaction! The movies are better than the books (even if they're different) imo! don't worry about it.
The maze runner trilogy is timeless, I'm looking forward to the Scorch Trials and the Death Cure 😊
i really liked your reaction. the only thing is Gally doesn´t deserve hate. Yes he made some not so good desicions but all that he does has one reason fear. i mean he is just a kid and scared for his life constantly. To be fair from gallys perspective they were 3 years relativly safe at least they knew what the situation was that makes it easier to handle (physicly and mentaly) then thomas showes up and suddenly all hell brackes lose and people are dying (for gally his family). All in all Gally is an insecure kid who´s scared to death and we know all that happend is not exactly thomas fault but i find it easy to understad why gally sees it this way.
p.s.: sorry for my writing i have a broken keyboard ad english is not my first laguage :)
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Great trilogy!! If you're readers I'd recommend the books as well, the movies were great adaptations, but still some cool details exclusively in the books
Nice! Before clicking this I even thought: I wonder if Sam has read the books already? Glad to see you two going into it blind.
Nice reaction. The "Maze Runner" films are very good and very deep. They're adult and not YA at all. Thomas was a high-ranking member of WCKD before he went into the Maze .... There's a reason why Thomas and Teresa remember things, and it has to do with WCKD.
If you know your classics, the "Maze Runner" is a pretty close retelling of "Theseus and the Minotaur," of course. Naturally, Thomas is Theseus, the hero. Turns out, Thomas, in his pre-Glade life, was also Daedalus, a creative genius. Daedalus created the Labyrinth for Minos, just like Thomas created the maze for WCKD. Daedalus went into the Labyrinth, just like Thomas went into the maze. There are other parallels between Daedalus and Thomas. The Glade and the Gladers are Crete and Athenian youth of the myth, respectively. The Grievers are the Minotaur, the monster that feeds on the Athenian youth who have been offered as sacrificial victims. The Minotaur is half-man, half-bull. The Grievers are half-organic, half-machine. The WCKD mechanism that's found in the crushed Griever is Ariadne's thread, the key out of the maze. WCKD, as noted above, is King Minos. In the myth, 7 youths and 7 maids are sacrificed to the Minotaur every year. This strongly implies the existence of an all-female maze. The number 7, which has significance in the film, is undoubtedly an allusion to the myth, too. The maze motif is repeated in the "Scorch Trials" and "Death Cure."
The Glade's Crete is, however, more like "The Lord of the Flies (LOTF)" than classical Greece. The Glade is, after all, an island inhabited by boys in the midst of an ocean-like maze. Who can forget the pig that arrived with Thomas, either? Themes in that well-known classic include the tension between groupthink and individuality, between rational and emotional reactions, and between morality and immorality. Things which we do see play out in Thomas and the Gladers. Thomas seems to be a combination of LOTF's Ralph and Simon. His Simon attribute leads us to believe that at some point in the trilogy Thomas will die. Gally, in the first film, probably represents LOTF's Jack. The Gladers eventually split between Thomas (Ralph/Simon) and Gally (Jack) just as in LOTF. Late in the film, Gally proposes to make Thomas an offering to the Grievers/Maze. In LOTF's, Jack proposes to make Ralph's decapitated head an offering to the beast, which represents darkness/fear/the innate primordial savageness of the boys. Despite his sometimes impulsiveness, Thomas represents rationality, individuality and morality. Gally denotes groupthink and emotionalism. The significance of the names that are the closest surrounding Thomas' on the wall will become clear in the later movies.
When Thomas and the others arrive in the Glade, they're essentially born into it, actually and symbolically. The water is the amniotic fluid, the glass cylinder represents the placenta, and the person is the foetus. The lift is the birth canal. Like newborns, the Gladers arrive as brand-new persons. They have no identity except a name, which they were christened with by WCKD. So, when Alby says that the creators only let them remember their name, he's not exactly correct. They don't remember their actual name, only their WCKD name. That's why no two Gladers have the same name. You want to be able to distinguish your test subjects for analytical purposes. Since we saw in this film that WCKD can monitor brain function of the Gladers remotely, we can conclude all the Gladers have brain implants of some sort. Clearly, they also would have an implant that would track/geolocate them. You'd want to be able to follow your subject. It's also safe to conclude that an implant is what affects their memory, and it can presumably be turned both on and off.
The average Glader is reluctant to answer Thomas' questions from ignorance and fear. The people who know answers, albeit very imperfectly, are the runners, Ably and Newt, and perhaps some of the other keepers. Alby maybe reluctant to answer Thomas because he's afraid of what Thomas might do. The runners function as a sacred priesthood in the Glade. Their map-hut is off-limits to the average Glader. Only when Thomas is anointed runner does Minho reveal to him what is known of the maze's secrets. Why is Newt willing to answer Thomas' questions? We see from the get-go, there's an attraction, a closeness developing between Newt and Thomas.
Thomas and Ava Paige tell us the maze is an experiment to stress and test brain function in order to find a cure for the Flare. The "Maze Runner" trials mean to develop, isolate and produce a curative enzyme that only occurs in immunes' brains so humanity can be saved, even if it means killing the immunes. The Flare is the trilogy's MacGuffin. In any experiment, you need a treatment group and a control group. The control group is the benchmark against which you compare the treatment group. The control group must be non-immunes, the treatment group immunes. Some of the Gladers are immune, others are not. The immunes are naturally immune to the Flare. The Griever sting cannot be Flare because all the Gladers have to be at risk of death for the sake of the experiment. Griever sting is similar in effect to the Flare, but it's 100% curable by WCKD. Also, it can't be communicable since WCKD would not want all the test subjects to die if one were stung.
Thomas is clearly bothered by Ben being banished. He doesn't approve at all. In fact, it's a triggering event for Thomas. Our tragic hero, Thomas, is super intelligent, very curious and completely selfless. He is so selfless we might consider him impulsive. After Ben's fate, Thomas has decided there'll be no more maze deaths if he can help it. That's why he jumps into the maze after Minho and Alby. Which brings up the question of why Minho is bringing Alby back if he's been stung. The three rules of the Glade make no reference to being stung. There is no punishment for being stung per se. We know the Gladers holds court to decide punishments since Gally prosecutes Thomas for entering the maze in front of such a court. Ben was banished by a court because he tried to kill Thomas, not because he was stung. Minho was bringing Alby back to the Glade out of duty and affection. A court would later have to decide if Alby was deserving of banishment or some other sentence arising out of the second rule. On the other hand, Minho was not obligated to commit suicide to save Alby. He should have left him when it was obvious they couldn't both make it out of the maze, but he waited too long. Later, of course, fear takes over, and Minho abandons both Alby and Thomas to their collective fate.
Teresa is an anomalous figure in the first film. She's a girl, her arrival is untimely, and she heralds the end of the Gladers' supply lifeline. She completely breaks the Glade's paradigm. Thomas is ambiguous, too. Is Gally right about Thomas? It's not clear what to make of his dream-visions. Is he an agent for good or for evil? It's certainly his nature to be a catalyst. We know he was WCKD's favourite, the best at solving challenges. Why is he in the maze? Alby wondered the same thing. Also, why are he and Teresa able to recall snippets of their past? None of the other Gladers can do that unless they've been stung. Both Thomas and Teresa are clearly mysterious.
After Thomas and Minho first open the #7 gate using the Griever key, they trigger a reconfiguration of the maze which will funnel the Gladers to the #7 gate. This means the experiment is entering its final phase. Common sense tells us the sequence the runners noted previously, but starting at 7, will be the correct code. Only those subjects who successfully exit the maze are candidates for the second trial.
Thomas is the archetypal tragic hero. Tragic heroes are characters of elevated stature, both in birth and morality. Like most heroes, he has above-average intelligence, which means he has situational awareness; he's determined, which means he is firmly set in opinion or purpose; and he has a loyal close friend who guides, advises and helps him as he faces his trials. In the films, Newt clearly fits the role as Thomas' helper, his Ariadne. The Theseus myth also emphasizes the power of love. Ariadne helps because she has fallen in love with Theseus. Likewise, Newt is in love with Thomas.
As a tragic hero, Thomas is subject to a collective fate, the will of the gods, if you will, which had precipitated the solar flares that scorched the Earth and indirectly brought about the Flare virus. A common attribute of the tragic hero is that he once held a lofty position from which he has now been cast down. Thomas' hamartia has visited his own individual fate upon himself which prompts his present adventure-journey. His moral choices while part of WCKD led him to immoral behavior, the torture and deaths of the test subjects. In this way, Thomas assumed the role of a god over the Gladers. That's hubris. Humans, even if they're heroes, have to be taught they are not a god. Nemesis prompted Thomas' downfall from WCKD and the tragic course his subsequent life followed.
Tragic heroes suffer, and Thomas will suffer throughout the films. Another aspect of the tragic hero motif is that those nearest and dearest to the hero often wind up either in some sort of deadly peril or just plain dead. Most often, it's dead.
The trilogy manifests several themes. One that runs through all the films, and is the main theme, is the question of whether the end justifies the means. The principle is part and parcel of consequentialism, a teleological theory that says whether an action is morally good or bad depends on its outcomes. The more good outcomes outnumber the bad, the more moral the action.
Another theme which we see in this film in particular, is the question of how do different people deal with fear/unknown? This is also very much a theme in LOTF.
I’m sad that there removing all maze runner movies on Netflix
don’t worry about reading the books and already knowing what’s going to happen, the next 2 movies deviate pretty far from their corresponding books, but they still are extremely amazing movies, in my opinion they’re better than this one which is still extremely amazing
They did Albie dirty.
Watch divergent too
This movie is🔥
I prefer the books mainly because the maze element continues in the second and third book, but they dropped that for the movies. They made BIG changes from the second book to the movie mainly because they took out an element from the first book that they couldn't really add back in.
The maze-motif is present in the second and third movies.
@@wilhelm-z4t It's not the same though. Certainly not the second film.
@@CJ77777 Scorch Trial SPOILERS. Well, they couldn't very well do an exact repeat of the first film. In the second film we encounter a maze in the ductwork in Jansen's facility, just going through the facility while escaping is maze-like, the mall Thomas et al. escape from is certainly a maze, Thomas and Brenda going through the sewers is another maze, Thomas and Brenda going through the ruined skyscrapers fleeing the cranks is yet another maze. Etc. Even Thomas' tragic hero's journey towards self-realisation with its ups-and-downs twists-and-turns could be considered navigating a maze. The maze motif abounds in the trilogy. Unfortunately, too many folks view the films superficially, and they miss a lot, and there is a lot in the films to take in. You really need your thinking-caps on when watching them. In the visual language of cinema, motifs serve as powerful storytelling tools. Recurring images, symbols, sounds or actions woven throughout a film’s narrative create cohesion, reinforce themes, and imbue the story with symbolic significance. For example, another great film that uses a maze motif is Stanley Kubrick's "The Shining." The hotel is a maze, the hotel carpet is maze-like, there's an actual maze etc. Actually, both "The Shining" and "The Maze Runner" trilogy have a basis in the "Theseus and the Minotaur" myth. By the way, this is not to say the maze motif is the only motif in either "The Maze Runner" or "The Shining," but, clearly, it's a significant one.
@wilhelm-z4t The reason why it was changed wasn't for any artsy reason or for any deep reasoning. It's because they changed certain elements in the first film (like Theresa and Thomas being able to talk to each other mentally) which then would not make sense in the next film where that is an integral part of the plot in the book. Can't say anything else because of spoilers.
@@CJ77777 Clearly things were changed for cinematic (artsy) reasons. If you watch the Special Features included with the films, even the author realised the necessity for that. You can like or dislike that, but that's just the why it is when making a film from a book. Very broadly, the films actually do follow the outline of the books but differ in detail markedly. Personally, I prefer the films to the books. It's a matter of taste, I suppose. That doesn't mean I didn't like the books. They held my interest and were entertaining. What of it when a film doesn't follow a book exactly? There are obvious reasons why this is rarely possible, and it's often not even desirable. Books and films are two different art forms. What works in one doesn't necessarily work in the other. There also are different creative impulses at work in each. People need to understand TMR books and films as depicting two separate universes which, although inhabited by the same people facing similar challenges, evolve differently. They are going to diverge! and vive la différence!! If all is done well, and the films were done very well, it doubles the fun.
You look like teal swan.
gally hate is so misguided :/
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The rest of this trilogy is trash. The first movie is amazing cause of its name and premise. The sequels have NOTHING to do with maze running. They just milked out the franchise to be another version of hunger games.
That's total BS, but I guess if you're stuck in YA mode, you'll fail to realize the Maze-motif is repeated in the second and third film. Also, THG is hardly original or unique. "Battle Royale (BR)" is a Japanese dystopian horror novel by journalist Koushun Takami published in 1999. The novel is about junior high school students who are forced to fight each other to the death in a program run by a fictional, fascist, totalitarian Japanese government known as the Republic of Greater East Asia. In 2000, BR was adapted into a manga series and a successful feature film. The BR novel was translated into English by Yuji Oniki and released in North America in early 2003. The 2008 American young adult novel THG by Suzanne Collins has been accused of being strikingly similar to BR in terms of the basic plot premise. While Collins maintains that she "had never heard of that book until her book was turned in", Susan Dominus of The New York Times reports that "the parallels are striking enough that Collins's work has been savaged on the blogosphere as a baldfaced ripoff," but argued that "there are enough possible sources for the plot line that the two authors might well have hit on the same basic setup independently."
"Maze Runner (TMR)," on the other hand, is clearly inspired by the ancient Greek myth of "Theseus and the Minotaur," "The Lord of the Flies," and an examination of the criminally inhumane Nazi medical experimentation programme of WW II. TMR's hero is a tragic hero, and the story the trilogy tells is a tragedy. TMR explores several themes, but the primary theme of the trilogy examines whether "The ends justify the means." This is a principle often associated with totalitarianism, and the phrase has its origin with Machiavelli, although the idea is much older. The principle is part and parcel of consequentialism, a teleological theory that says whether an action is morally good or bad depends on its outcomes. The more good outcomes outnumber the bad, the better/more moral the action. Under this rubric if WCKD finds a cure, then WCKD is very good, indeed. It's clearly rooted in Utilitarianism.
It's also worth remembering that all heroic stories generally follow the same pattern. In his book "The Hero with a Thousand Faces (1949)", Joseph Campbell describes this narrative pattern as follows: A hero ventures forth from the world of common day into a region of supernatural wonder: fabulous forces are there encountered and a decisive victory is won: the hero comes back from this mysterious adventure with the power to bestow boons on his fellow man. This is the basic framework of TMR.
@@wilhelm-z4t I did not read your book you wrote. This is not up for debate. As it is a fact my subjective fact in which i did not ask for a rebuttle. Now go get woke to reality. Not the rainbow warrior squad kind of woke. The true woke.
@@WheresWaldo05 Well, everyone is born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid. Have a nice day!
@@wilhelm-z4t And you cannot teach stupid to someone already stupid. But if you want to settle it like men, i am located in Duluth, MN. Anytime. Anyplace. There you can ATTEMPT, key word being attempt, to tell me what i can and cannot like. But you will be looking up at a 6'6" monster who also carry and conceals but most importantly, is willing to go to prison.
@@wilhelm-z4t Please come meet me in real life. Duluth, MN. So i can teach you a lesson from the 6'6" beast that i am.
make a ladder and walk on top of the maze ?
They said they tried that but it didn't work somehow
If half the people paid attention the question is already answered by the explanation of the maze changing and the fact that the maze is huge in comparison just to the glade so no climbing up top on the walls is a no go much less a death sentence
Those walls are at least 100 feet tall!! I'd like to see anyone build a 100 foot plus ladder out of sticks and branches tied together with vegetation. Try it and let us know how well that turns out. Oh, and after you've built it, pick it up, if you can, and move it around a little to see how stable it'd be. Or would it break up and fall apart? They had few or no tools. No saws or anything like that for sure. So, don't use anything like that. Even if you could get to the top of the inner wall, what would it get you? There's no continuous path to the exterior wall. And if you could get there, it'd be a 100+ foot drop. Good luck!! And shame on Thomas Brodie-Sangster for suggesting this, too. What were you thinking, Newt?
In the books they explain that they have brain chips that make them think it's much harder than it is. Also they are being watched so if there was a path from the top to the outside they'd just start moving the walls.
@@CuddleCakez Yes, I recall from the books the boys were made to think things were a lot bigger than they actually were. The maze was also subterranean. But, of course, the films are set in a different universe than the books.