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  • @NewHOD
    @NewHOD 10 років тому +32

    Thank you for this tutorial it was very useful. I can beat my cocky coworkers now.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  14 років тому +2

    @Gustav1455 Congratulations. It's nice to know that we are helping people out there. Keep working hard and you'll get even better.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  13 років тому +2

    @iandemagi Yes! A decent rubber is required for all of the basic strokes we teach.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  13 років тому +2

    @thedoctorthemaster You can do similar things against a fast topspin too. Generally a faster shot will not have as much topspin so you need to vary your stroke to allow for this. Also as the ball is traveling faster you probably don't need to punch the ball as much as you don't need to generate more speed. The counter topspin is also difficult to make because the ball is coming at you faster. So a good option is to use a standard block against a fast topspin.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  13 років тому +3

    @jinlisahonyc Thanks! I'm glad you are finding our videos useful.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  14 років тому +2

    @salkstap That is difficult to answer. It really depends a lot on your current level. However it does take a long time to learn. Just keep practicing and it will come.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  14 років тому +1

    @COUNTRYLAPI Welcome back to the game. Glad to see you setting some goals for yourself. If you need any help then let us know. We've got an ask the coach section on our website where you can ask any Table Tennis questions and read other peoples.
    Good luck getting to 1500!

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  13 років тому +2

    @prithwin It's by Kevin MacLeod and it's royalty free!

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  14 років тому

    @Musickia Thanks for the kind words. It is nice to know that our videos are helping people.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  14 років тому +1

    @yobmas722 Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad we could help you out. Make sure you check out our website as we have a lot of resources on there. For instance you can use the ask the coach section and ask us any Table Tennis question.
    Good luck with your Table Tennis.

  • @2012wyvern
    @2012wyvern 14 років тому

    Probably the best group that offers Table Tennis coaching.

  • @Gustav1455
    @Gustav1455 14 років тому +1

    Pingskills! Thank so much for those videos, i did get many Medals in table tennis! When Serve, and block and chop! Thank you.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  12 років тому +3

    If the ball has a lot of topspin, it can be difficult to chop. And if you are close to the table you can't do this effectively off such a spinny topspin.
    If you are a defensive player you can certainly chop the ball. We have some lessons on this as well on our website.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  12 років тому +3

    It really depends on the situation, how well you play each technique and your opponent. Experiment with all 3 and see which works the best for you against various opponents.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  11 років тому +2

    It can be difficult. I would suggest trying to use a very relaxed grip and block the ball back as a start. We talk about this in the video.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  12 років тому +2

    When you're back from the table you have a few options. If wish to be attacking you can play a topspin against topspin. If wish to be defensive you can play a chop stroke. We have videos on both of these on our website.

  • @grantwmiller
    @grantwmiller 7 років тому +4

    Great video Guys! shows three really good options and progressive responses. One thing advanced players my take for granted that could be helpful here would be mentioning how important it is to saying down, not move you head a bunch, or not tensing up or be surprised by the change of pace when receiving this shot. especially for middle lel and beginners. One big reason why slow spiny topspin shots are effective in game play (besides it's heavy spin) is because its a change of pace from a more direct topspin shot. It can break the rhythm of play. Mid lel and beginner myself included really need to stay down and relaxed if the want to have any type of consistency at any of the three options. Pretty basic I know but Still worth mentioning.

  • @PrinceArt77
    @PrinceArt77 15 років тому

    pingskills really gives sound and professional techniques and advices...i'm sure this will greatly improve my play...thanks for the upload....peace!

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  14 років тому

    @greekmaxi Thanks for the kind words about our videos. It sounds like you need quite a detailed answer. The best place to ask such a question is on the Ask the Coach section of our website. Try there and we'll see if we can help you out.

  • @jasron08
    @jasron08 14 років тому

    Thank you for the videos. I watched before our competitions and we got the title "CHAMPION" !

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  13 років тому +1

    @olfikpl Glad you liked it.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  14 років тому

    @abed83a thanks for letting us know. I'm glad it helped you out. Take a look at our website as we have a lot more lessons and other sections of the website which I hope you can benefit from.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  14 років тому

    @harry1549 As the long pimples doesn't have much friction, you need to use a different technique using this rubber. Often people try to chop the ball when using long pimples. Try using the Ask the Coach section of our website as we have more room there to answer your questions in detail.

  • @gavincourtney3162
    @gavincourtney3162 10 років тому +1

    Excellent Video...I played the game at a reasonable level and would recommend anyone taking up the game to watch these videos....Everything is simplified and you will learn a lot about the game....practice with these tips and you will see your game improve at an incredible rate...Keep the good work up guys

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  10 років тому +1

      Thanks Gavin Courtney.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  14 років тому +1

    @salkstap It certainly does take a lot of practice.

  • @PrinceArt77
    @PrinceArt77 14 років тому

    these guys really give great advices and tips....i have learned so much just by practicing what these guys been sharing in their videos...nice job pingskills....peace yah all guys!

  • @lightice1387
    @lightice1387 4 роки тому

    Hello Coach Alois and Jeff, thanks a lot for your interesting videos . Really helpful . What I like about your videos is that ,you not only explain the ‘how’ but also ‘why’ which makes a lot of sense and the understanding of the rationale behind the shots ! Keep going ! 🙏🙏🙏

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  4 роки тому

      Thanks for your kind words. Keep enjoying your table tennis!

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  13 років тому +2

    @lastxp Some players do this. It is very difficult to execute. I've seen Ma Lin do it brilliantly a number of times.

  • @DeepsilverORIGINAL
    @DeepsilverORIGINAL 13 років тому

    you guys are great! thanks to pingskills i am now member of a tabletennis club!

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  13 років тому +1

    @zubairaliamirali great to hear.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  14 років тому

    @Irfan87 Yeah we are quite biased towards the shakehand grip. This is because most players in Australia (where I am from) are shakehand players so that is what we are most familiar with.

  • @BrianJacko
    @BrianJacko 15 років тому

    yes, this is a very good video, so many people at my old club tell me to hold the paddle very firm when blocking or hitting, and it just made matters worse. A soft loose grip i thought was better, and you have just confirmed that. Thank you. A relaxed musscle also moves much quicker then a tense one.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  12 років тому

    If someone with normal rubber blocks the ball, it will come back with a little bit of topspin on it. If the counter topspin it, it will come back with lots of topspin on it. This means the ball is rotating forwards off your opponents stroke.

  • @RandomNameMuch
    @RandomNameMuch 12 років тому

    Thanks! I never knew how to properly counter topspin and now I do! Subscribed!

  • @bankzor
    @bankzor 16 років тому

    Wow, fantastic video guys. You've taught me so much from your other videos. And it just keeps coming!

  • @yobmas722
    @yobmas722 14 років тому

    dear alois and jeff..., thanks for posting this vid. now i know what to do when a ball with heavy topsin comes..... thanks and more power to you guys from yobmas722.

  • @zubairaliamirali
    @zubairaliamirali 13 років тому

    thank you so much....it is very very very helpful...i was so confused with my opponent with that shot....now i think i can get him this time...
    once again thank you very much!

  • @abed83a
    @abed83a 14 років тому

    Excellent explanation. Though I can do the first two types. But it sometime works sometime does not. Because I was not sure what exactly I am supposed to do. Now, I know. Hope I will be able to emulate it, first in practice and then in match. Thanks a lot.

  • @GabrielEstebanCello
    @GabrielEstebanCello 14 років тому

    Never really used that punch, but I would say it is more difficult than the block! Thank you for the video!!!

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  13 років тому

    @5000Romano You're welcome! I'm glad we could help you. Checkout our website for more awesome Table Tennis secrets!

  • @aalokatmaa1606
    @aalokatmaa1606 5 років тому

    Thank you so much for this worthy lesson both the coaches😊.

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 років тому

      You're welcome. I'm glad it helped.

  • @marleiserashford396
    @marleiserashford396 5 років тому

    Thank you. I am learning so much from you both.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  13 років тому

    @sai0024 You're welcome.

  • @aalokatmaa1606
    @aalokatmaa1606 6 років тому

    Such a great video. Thank you so much dear Alios and Jeff😊.

  • @Serpentem
    @Serpentem 15 років тому

    Thankyou really much for this video.
    I am going to improve my technics thanks to this!

  • @TableTennis4Fun
    @TableTennis4Fun 12 років тому +2

    Thank you for this info, yet I still have trouble knowing how I should angle my paddle according to the opponents sidespin topspin

  • @poorknight123
    @poorknight123 16 років тому

    The best pingskill video yet! ;o)

  • @farhanhashim2527
    @farhanhashim2527 6 років тому

    Very useful video. I do feel that in a match if the topspin is at the end of table then block should be done passively ie soft hands but if it lands inside the table then should be punched while if heavy topspin trajectory is low then should be counter topspin

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  6 років тому

      Thanks for sharing your experiences.

  • @dhyannurhidayat8880
    @dhyannurhidayat8880 4 роки тому

    Thank you very much Alois, you really saved my day !

  • @akshaykothare1245
    @akshaykothare1245 2 роки тому

    Hi Alois and Jeff ! I love your videos. Keep going through them from time to time. Can you make a video on how to develop a 'brushing' contact when play forehand or backhand topspin ? If a video exists already - can you pls. share the link ? Would be very helpful for me... thanks a lot.

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  2 роки тому

      Great suggestion Akshay. We'll try to do this in the coming months!

  • @OverseerKevin
    @OverseerKevin 9 років тому

    I looked up this tutorial because I got killed tonight by a guy who threw me spiny topspin loops. Every time I made contact the ball flew over the table. Some of my shots got close to landing on the table but none actually landed. It was so frustrating. I played him off the table, but now I'm going to try you guys techniques and step in closer to handle the topspin. Thanks guys!!

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  9 років тому

      +Overseer Kevin Excellent. Let me know how it goes next time you play him.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  16 років тому

    Due to the topspin your opponent has put on the ball, you don't need to brush upwards as you would against a backspin ball. You need to angle your bat to counter the spin and while still brushing the ball, swing forward. So think forward rather than lift for this stroke.

  • @khiembolsa
    @khiembolsa 11 років тому

    Great and easy understanding, Thank you so much for making the video

  • @Rand0mAsian
    @Rand0mAsian 16 років тому

    this is REAlly good material, thanks lotss

  • @shellshot
    @shellshot 15 років тому

    hahaha just have to tell you guys... These are the most enjoyable videos on youtube! I've Discovered a gem :)
    I have a pretty amateur competition coming up that we hold every year at a summer camp. I'm usually in the top three, but this will definitely improve my game and hopefully I might just win :p

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  13 років тому

    @hiicoolman You're welcome. Make sure you check out our website. We've got heaps of great videos available there.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  14 років тому

    @jayhawker97 You're welcome!

  • @jayhawker97
    @jayhawker97 14 років тому

    thank you so much for the lessons!!!!!! they're really helpful!!!!!

  • @QuantumStates
    @QuantumStates 15 років тому

    You're a great instructor.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  12 років тому

    OK. To counter the top spin you need to angle your bat forwards. You could try this and attempt to just guide the ball back. Did you take a look on our website at the topspin against topspin video?
    We film answers to question that have been asked on our website and then voted upon by our premium members. If you'd like you can ask this question on the website and hope that people vote for it.

  • @arniejerome12
    @arniejerome12 13 років тому

    because of these videos.. i won in a best of 3 game. the score is 3-0.
    im just 11 yrs. old & my opponent was 21 yrs.old. haha
    these videos really help me to improve.

  • @Trice38
    @Trice38 16 років тому

    Just great, thanks a lot to Alois and Jeff! :)

  • @FD1CE
    @FD1CE 9 років тому

    Absolutely Perfect Guide.
    I really learn from you guys.
    Much much thanks :)

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  9 років тому +2

      +AsianBoy You're welcome!

  • @DEVZARKAR
    @DEVZARKAR 12 років тому

    Thanks pingskills for your quick reply , These are all slow and loopy topspin when I tried to hit it goes over table , Could you please share video .. It will be really help me lot ...

  • @oggythebug
    @oggythebug 11 років тому

    Hello from France, i am a very good blocker and i would suggest this for a soft block. Yes the secret is the softness. you can do this with the first part of your arm but i have develloped something easy to do. on a soft block i hold the neck of my paddle only with my thumb and the closest finger and maybe the following. the 2 last fingers are a little opened so they don't really hold the neck. with that technique the grip is very soft, and the block is soft and controlled, thanks regards

  • @shaunhall5764
    @shaunhall5764 11 років тому

    Really good video! Good technique.

  • @FedorMachida
    @FedorMachida 9 років тому

    Great stuff! I will try this next time I am at the table.

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  9 років тому +3

      +FedorMachida Last Good luck!

    • @uddesai
      @uddesai 7 років тому

      PingSkills last good luck
      so you week never say good luck ever?

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  7 років тому +2

      Whoops, that was a typing mistake. I just meant "Good luck" :)

    • @D8vid
      @D8vid 7 років тому

      PingSkills It's not a mistake, the guy's name ended with "Last", keep up the great job PingSkills!

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  7 років тому

      Thanks!

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  11 років тому +1

    You're welcome.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  13 років тому

    @maxk880 Do you have pimples on both sides or would you only defend like this on the backhand side?

  • @daloe100
    @daloe100 14 років тому

    the best instructor on youtube so far... but why using broken balls?

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  13 років тому

    @arniejerome12 Well done. Make sure you take a look at our website. We've got heaps more lessons available to help you improve even more.

  • @powpanda
    @powpanda 16 років тому

    This is great. I must work on my punch as it seems the koolest.

  • @fixedshot
    @fixedshot 16 років тому

    wow thanks for this tutorial! he holds his racket similar to hao shuai's hold hehe in my opinion.

  • @JackJames2005
    @JackJames2005 15 років тому

    PingSkills has so improved my game that my 2 hitting partners don't come home to play with me anymore :-( I have a good loop going and they find it hard to return it. Up until last month, both used to turn up almost every evening. Now, all I get from them is excuses. I don't know if I should thank or curse PingSkills :-) Now I just lineup the table against the wall and hit out all by myself.

  • @o00user00o
    @o00user00o 14 років тому

    a slow top spin ball is good to give a hard smash to it since it usually bounces back quite high in the air with lots of top spin.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  13 років тому

    @maxk880 He is certainly a great person to learn from!

  • @maxk880
    @maxk880 13 років тому

    @pingskills if i get a slow spinny topspin i have enought time to turn my table tennis bat and use my backhand pimples with forehand. I learned that technique from the best defender in the world, Joo Se Hyuk

  • @rajnishjha7964
    @rajnishjha7964 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks

  • @thethingsfriend
    @thethingsfriend 15 років тому

    the videos are great, keep it up! :)

  • @skindiver2
    @skindiver2 4 роки тому

    I have a big game tonight against heavy ts I’ll be back tomorrow with my results
    Cheers from Australia

  • @jimbo9580
    @jimbo9580 9 років тому +1

    Great advice, you guys have a great tube,

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  9 років тому

      +JAMES SHERRIFF Thanks for your support. Make sure to checkout the PingSkills website too :)

    • @jimbo9580
      @jimbo9580 9 років тому

      PingSkills will do , ta

  • @fixedshot
    @fixedshot 16 років тому

    oh im just wondering too. if i may know, what is he's racket(rubber and wood)? thanks again for this very effective video:)

  • @yonobe
    @yonobe 16 років тому

    you have the best videaus ever
    :-)

  • @pn8830
    @pn8830 16 років тому

    Jeff (the guy who does the topspins) uses Butterfly Tenergy 05 (2.1mm) on both sides.

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  14 років тому +1

    @jasron08 Congratulations!

  • @drsrinara
    @drsrinara 14 років тому

    Nice video. Thanks!

  • @DarthXingo
    @DarthXingo 15 років тому

    Great help!

  • @vijuvlogs
    @vijuvlogs 5 років тому

    Thank you so much for all your videos.... I have improved my techniques over the last one year watching those. One question though, with all the 3 techniques mentioned in this video which would be most effective in blocking/countering the loop which has a lot of acceleration (micro adjusted loop)?
    One of my friends' loops gets real fast after the bounce making it almost impossible to send it back from close to the table.
    Please advise...

    • @pingskills
      @pingskills  5 років тому

      If you are faced with a very fast loop, then I would recommend attempting to simply block the ball back, but try to place it well so the next shot is hard for you opponent.

  • @iandemagi
    @iandemagi 13 років тому

    @lastxp
    You need specialized rubber to really pull that off-certain type long pips.

  • @AZHOLEN1
    @AZHOLEN1 11 років тому

    show as a vid with you blocking someone with a really spinny slow topspin. You know the one's that can actually make the ball hum because it's spinning tremendously! Wish I had a camera when I saw it!

  • @NicosNarte
    @NicosNarte 5 років тому

    miss this guys

  • @dB-progress
    @dB-progress 16 років тому

    If the bounce is much lower, so the spin is propably smaller. Try to block, but with more open bat.

  • @lastxp
    @lastxp 13 років тому

    Some players block - chop the ball to produce a drop shot effect with a heavy back spin on it. I think ma lin uses it alot.

  • @goedehabbo
    @goedehabbo 13 років тому

    Thanks!!! now i can counter my friends good topspin cause i topspin back but then its gonna be fricking high than he smashes!

  • @pingskills
    @pingskills  13 років тому +1

    @tabletennisperson Nice!

  • @salkstap
    @salkstap 14 років тому

    @pingskills thanks one more question in ping pong what strategy is better the atack or the defence?

  • @dp20102
    @dp20102 11 років тому

    anyways you guys are great, im gonna check out ur website. thanks a lot

  • @salkstap
    @salkstap 14 років тому

    you make it easyer than it is:)

  • @WhiteKnightPoet
    @WhiteKnightPoet 2 роки тому

    Alex, when you hit a return ball from a SOFT BLOCK against an incoming SLOW LOOP,
    does the ball come off your bat with BACKSPIN (i.e. the SLOW LOOPER'S original TOPSPIN)
    or does your SOFT BLOCK impart TOPSPIN to your return ball back to the SLOW LOOPER?

  • @salkstap
    @salkstap 14 років тому

    I love your punch:)