Please educate yourself on colorism and how it works before you comment. This is something that many people of color face. This issue is terrible in the black community. The history of black face is way to strong for people to not understand or have a little sympathy. We have people in are community that hate their skin. That is something NO ONE should have to go through. Please just think!
I don’t see the problem with using a skin tone that doesn’t match yours like it’s their choice and it’s not hurting anyone it’s their customizable character. I don’t care if someone who isn’t my skin tone uses it. Idgaf
@@KenKnowsIt Question, would using a dark skin tone to act cool be considered racist? I’m just asking because someone in this comment section quite clearly doesn’t understand the message you are trying to convey.
Yeah, while most other games with a character creator I make representations of myself, for whatever reason with Splatoon I just.. don't. It's always some form of OC. I'm just realizing that and I wonder why exactly my Inkling/Octoling is the only exception, really..
Real, because i couldn't choose the hair color it really limited the set of characters i usually make for character customization (an anime character, myself, my oc) so i just made an oc specifically for splatoon. For side order i just made canon agent 8
Hit a lot of nerves in these comments lol. I feel like the majority of people taking this video to heart are apart of the issue. Idgaf if you have a character that has darker skin than you, shi I got white oc’s myself. But if your going on games that give you that option to have dark skin and you take and use it for derogatory purposes then your doing digital blackface. Making your character black them naming yourself bs like “Monkey” or “Nikka/Ninja” is honestly sad and nobody’s laughing. Quite literally this same shit is on every game. Roblox,Fortnite,Vr, literally anywhere. Still I support people anyone choosing any shade they want as long as you’re not choosing it for any racist shit. Have a blessed day because its too early for everyone to be upset and trolling. Make the best out of the day please 🙏
This 1000% imo, as a black person too with a bunch of OCs of different skin color and also making a story so it's inevitable, I think in that regard it's fine, but the racism and other ways of mockery aren't fine
Yes but it’s still iffy to do that. Personally if I were trying to make myself in the game I wouldn’t choose a different skin color. It depends on the intentions, you never know if they’re racist or just wanted to
It's very hard to distingush between someone creating a dark skinned OC and virtual blackface. And you can't really tell which one it is until things like what happened recently come out.
I am black myself and I'm not sure if this has anything to do with this, but when I was younger, whenever I had the chance to customize a character (I would always base it off myself), I would always make myself white. I'm not sure why I did, but I assume I saw some horrible things being done against black people and assumed I would be "liked" more if I "fit in." Thankfully, it didn't take me long to get over that. Me personally, I don't mind if you make your own character something that is not your skin color (Or sex in that matter). That's totally fine! Just don't use it in a way where you end up hurting others. Some people like using black skin tones because it makes them feel/look cool. That's alright in my opinion. Not sure how to explain it, but as long as they aren't so fixated on it, it should be fine.
Let’s also not forget that JP players do this a lot because they think it looks cool and nothing more. You can be who ever you wan min this game as long as you are not being derogatory about it
The OP’s point makes sense. I’m based in Japan but I’ve never heard anyone using a particular skin tone to intimidate other players, at least in Splatoon. Some of the weapons or the bear ears do that effectively though!
That's what I would have assumed without the added context. But of course, we can't have nice things because racists will try to use anything as an insult.
As a white man who has had multiple black friends and teammates, they deserve as much respect and rights as we do. They just want to find a place of belonging in the community but these people keep pushing them away and this really hurts me. Treat them like brothers and sisters. Thank you for reading this and Ken have a good day if you see this stay strong brother
As long as its bc they genuinely like the skin tone and isnt choosing it as a meme or something i dont mind and even appreciate it to an extent. i grew up hating my own skin tone so the fact that other people like dark skin tones enough for their oc and avatars to have them makes me happy
Same like i grew up hating myself not because of racism mostly because of beauty standard in the early 2000 of "perfect skin"aka white skin and being skinny i started to hate myself
@@glitter587same i remember thinking to myself at three years old thinking "why i was born in a dark latina tan and not beautiful white american skin" which looking back now it disgusting way of thinking that the "beauty standard" gave me
@glitter587 i legit feel bad for kids nowadays especially black/latino kids getting expose to social media nowadays at a young age especially how prevalent toxic beauty standard is giving them body image issue with all of the filters
I’ve said it before, I find it incredibly weird when people do that. And when you try explaining your thoughts on why it’s weird or problematic, people misinterpret your words.
It’s not that they’ll misinterpret your words 😂 it’s the fact you could explain your point perfectly and they’ll twist it to make any excuse instead of just acknowledging what you’re saying 😭😭
Yeah there was a guy on tiktok that was cosplaying as a vocaloid and people were taking the piss out of them I felt bad for him because. he was black and a character was white
I don't have Twitter, so I can't really say for certain, but it always felt like it was at least.. better compared to other communities. When it comes to LGBTQ+-type stuff, yeah, I still think Splatoon is one of the most welcoming and accepting in that regard. The concept of this community having a big problem with letting racism exist is super new to me, and while I doubt that a majority of Splatoon fans online are racist like this, I can never be certain. I just pray most people are normal and sane
@@squidduI’m a straight white female with autism and ADHD, and from someone who’s very outside the queer and race circles, this situation (along with the screen one) really made me realize that the community seems to mainly accept queer people. It feels like a lot of mental and racial problems are ignored
A place like that doesn't exist, every community, doesn't matter which one, it's going to have disputes and weirdos. Just enjoy whatever you are following and try to get away of fights.
Tbh as a black person, I think people should be free to use their characters as they please and be judged on individual basis on IF they do harbor any sort of prejudice. Yellow flags and red flags are entirely subjective to ones experience and what is a yellow flag to one could be a red to other and even a green one to some, it really isn't something that can be used as a way to guage the integrity of ones morals and falls more on who is seeing those flags, which is even why we see cases of death threats being thrown around because someone saw a "red flag" and wanted to take action. And on the topic of cosplay: it goes both ways, Ive seen people cosplay black characters and also get flack and threats and bullying for it, its something that really is bad on both ends since it keeps people from having fun and dressing as cool characters the admire. Overall as society we should just move on and judge people not by the color of their skin (or of their OCs) but instead Judge them for their character. And tbh in my personal case, Splatoon 1 I made myself with my skin tone. Splatoon 2 I made a White female inkling that was another character entirely and then I made 8 with a ligher skintone then mine. Come Splatoon 3 and I made one with a darker skin tone. Tbh if Splatoon had more major customization options I would use more things besides skintone and hair color to differentiate my characters. Most people are just trying to have fun and have a nice variety of characters. Plus tbh on the "asian people using darker skin tones to look more intimidating" we need to remember that skin color still talks about color and that certain colors have more constrast and blend better with others and overall this doesn't come from prejudice or racism but more so because thats color that has a bigger clash with inkling hair and blends in with their eye masks while highlighting their sclera. Overall intentions is the most important thing when discussion of what is a red flag.
Fr when I was in elementary school everyone was told not to judge anyone based on their skin tone but now that’s is all anyone does now. 😔 I don’t care if you use a darker skin tone in game, as long as you aren’t pretending to be black.
Not when there's generations of history with people treating are skin as a joke. Not when dark skinned individuals are made to be the poster boy of being ugly. We as a society can't move on because they still have racism around this topic. The issue isn't people using different shades. The issue comes from the jokes and people using the skin color as a joke. Blackface and digital blackface are wrong. This is something that needs to be addressed because it's an issue. Topic of cosplay does not go both ways. What ever fairy tale you want is fine. This is reality and racism is real.
@@KenKnowsIt if we never move on then we will never move on. This sounds repetitive but we need to understand as a collective that there will always be bad people, we can't just make our problem everyone's problem, I feel bad ruining a lot of people's fun when they are doing something entirely innocent just because a fraction of them are bad. There will never be a moment in society where there is zero racism, if you are wanting for that to move on then unfortunately you will never move on because the more we (we as in everyone regardless of color) antagonize concepts, cultures, religions, clothes, hair styles and accents ( words too but but words are way more subjective and change meaning all the time) there will always be a 2 way conflict with the many innocent people in the middle suffering for it. We (now as in the black community), should be wary of things that concern us and watch out for potential dangers, but we should also be more careful to not act out and unnecessarily antagonize others, otherwise we are basically being like that one cop who shot someone because they were afraid of a gun and it turned out to be a BB, or that bullied kid who started being rude and beating up others, or the quiet kid who... (I think you got the point. Which is why its important to judge the individuals who use characters of a different skin tone rather than raise general blank statements that antagonize the concept of people having digial personas, OCs or avatars of a different skin tone, if there are people harassing others and sending death threats to people who are just having fun and not actually being hateful, spiteful or trying to make fun of others in bad faith then the message and meaning of what is digital black face is not clear enough. And overall you are completely right about wanting to talk about it and to discuss it.
I personally do not care if white people or Asian people use dark skin tones for their character in-game. Many times people just say that they think it looks cool on their Octo/Inkling. I find it flattering! BUT. I will say it's offensive when their name is also paired up with a name that's obviously offensive, or a euphemism for a slur or something.
It’s their character and they can do whatever they want with it. You can find it weird, that’s your choice but the fact of the matter is that they can do whatever they want with their character and we have no right to tell them to use a different skin tone
@@squid583 ill be that guy i believe that splatoon heavily features speciesism and we perceive it as an analogy for racism. still yeah if theres a community this is probably eventually going to happen
It’s always gonna be the same bro even if we try best to stop it is never gonna end Is just hurtful no one wants to be called a monkey. I’ve been called a monkey by my white friend multiple times and I don’t even hang around him anymore Best thing we can do right now is not to entertain it because they say they sorry but they really not
When i played Splatoon 2 i was in a private room with friends and randoms well i was talking in voice chat when a random join and he started talking to me and i remember his character was brown skin and his name was El taco didn't think much about it. So i talked to him in Spanish and he had no idea what I was saying he said i speak English and Japanese, so spoke to him in english and asked are you from Japan? He said yes so i told him bro I'm from Texas and we just asked questions about each other countries but when i asked about his about his character and the name he said that he likes Mexican culture and he wanted his character to be Mexican and the name the was the first thing that came up. It never brother me that he made his inkling was brown and even we i told my friends about it we all just had a laugh, people are just different on how they see things
Thanks for this video This stuff is so upsetting Im tired of everyone telling our people how to feel about racism Saying that we cause this or we blow things out of proportion To anyone saying this you dont care about us Dont talk about us You want to live in a fantasy while we choose reality, You are trash people, and you are just as racist when you cape for this crap To my black people don't allow people to make you feel like they can push you out We belong in these spaces and no one will tell us to leave
My game characters are very rarely of myself. Maybe others are like that too? I use a white-tan colour. Should I not be? I also use the female body and secks divides humanity on a way bigger scale than race in terms of differences. Should I use the (intended to be, but removed the wording to make people feel better) male instead?
Appreciate you using your platform to spread awareness on this reoccurring issue. This is beyond video games as a society we gotta change the stigma so the rhetoric can simmer even a small percentage. I personally don't have a problem with someone using a darker tone inkling/octoling just hope their intentions are pure.
As a mod for r/splatoon, seeing people excusing jackpot's actions were jokes or private between friends or even drama of the week, despite how hurtful it is to poc like myself. that's why these issues keep being swept under the rug, and it works all the time. It's tiring
Me personally when I friend people that play splatoon and their character is a certain skin tone I expect them to be that skin tone I get so excited when I see a black splatoon player and then realize they actually aren’t when I friend them on a social platform it’s like I’ve been scammed💀
I think your video is really interesting and I'd NEVER!! would hurt someone on purpose just cause of their skin tone. Humans are humans and black people are beautiful. I am a white person and I'm always crying when I have to face or watch racism-related stuff. But here I am, randomly watching your video and it makes me wonder one big thing: I gave my Inkling the 2nd darkest skin tone cause I really like it and I wanted to show support to all the people out there. I always thought that it would make people feel accepted and loved. And now I wonder if this made the opposite? Like I said: I'd NEVER!! hate on someone for their skin tone.
I think the context, as usual, matters a lot. Like, for a player who’s just doing solo queue with no online Splatoon presence, no voice chatting, then it doesn’t really matter. Vice versa though, then you have to think about the perception of white person playing a black/darkest tone character. And while it would be nice to life in a world where only our intentions matters and others perceptions don’t factor in, we don’t. For what it’s worth, I don’t run into a lot of players in solo queue using the darkest tone so I suspect this isn’t a super widespread issue.
I’m curious about people’s opinion on using skin tone strategically like if there was a splatfest that had a black ink color so you made an octoling with an Afro and the darkest skin tone and only wear black clothes because it has no correlation to race
Personally, as a coping mechanism, I use female characters in every game with character customization. As a way to experience what my friends have called gender euphoria. Then there are people who choose the opposite sex for fun, which doesn’t seemed to be frowned upon. But playing as a completely different skin tone… I honestly don’t know what to think on this matter, I see some saying it’s fine as long as you keep away from digital blackface and are not being derogatory with it. I would like some people, especially of colour, to weigh in on this and tell me what they think.
For me it's not just the darkest skintone. Don't get me wrong I 100% see and understand the blackface and colourism implications, but as lighter skinned (around Kens complexion) bp myself I'd be uncomfortable if someone of pale complexion (ie any non black person, or person not of a notably darker skinned race) used a skintone that was **significantly** darker than theirs. With the more light but still dark skintones it definitely is way harder to tell, but like you were mentioning in the previous video sometimes the non explicit stuff and how comfortable people are doing stuff can make me a bit uncomfortable. It can come off as a microagression. Saying this not to detract from other people's experiences or lower their voice, especially of more dark skintones (colourism is a terrible part of racism) I just want to put my perspective out there too.
I just pick the skin tone i like the most which varies from game to game and if that is a black skin tone, im gonna choose it even if im not black myself
I am white and actually used a black skin tone in Splatoon 2 multiplayer. I basically skipped Splat 2 until Splat 3 was announced so while I didn't want to put in as much time as say Splat 1 I did get a library copy to play Octo Canyon and Octo expansion to get on par with the story. I had a white inkling for main story but chose a black octoling for Octo Expansion, as I read many aspects of the dlc from music to choice for marketing characters as black-coded, so I chose a black (basically the octo expansion trailer skin tone, not the darkest one) octoling with an afro that I thought looked fresh. After I saved Splatsville from doom he grew on me so I took the same octo character to pvp and salmon run for the two weeks left I had on my library copy. Overall Octo Expansion is one of my all time favourite single player shooter campaigns up there with the classics (Half Life, Halo, Quake, Wolfenstein)
As a black Splatoon player/streamer/content creator myself, much respect to you putting these videos out. I know you say you don't take pleasure in making these, but simply making these to bring awareness is enough & all that I ask for. Though I am disappointed about the entirety of this situation, I hope we as a community take this as a lesson going forward to do better & give everyone in this community a voice, no matter your race, gender; etc. We pride ourselves on being all-inclusive, so don't allow anyone's actions or words to take away your right to be included in this community. Don't tolerate the bad actors, of course. But even so, hold them accountable for what they say/do & let them know that these things aren't ok under any circumstance.
Honestly, the only reason why I might use the dark skin tone is only if it looks good with my gear, same goes for all skin tones. I would never try using my character as a symbol to make fun of others, only to what I feel comfortable with.
I found it hilarious how people get upset over people using virtual avatars that doesent match their real apperance even tho its your choice to customize it and you only control it not everyone its.
In real life im Tan skinned, well, more towards the darker than lighter tone, but i used a darker skin tone in game. Why? Because its supposed to resemble my OC! That.. isnt wrong, isnt it?
You mean when racist people suddenly decide black features are cool but only when it's applied to their fictional avatars? 🤔 Because that's the reason why that space bun girl got criticized, because she was being racist while her character had a black hairstyle. It sucks to see how most people don't even know the context behind that situation and only use it as an example of black people being "" "" unreasonable "" "" "
Im white, and I've been playing splatoon since the first game. Every game, I make a new character, and all of them I've made the darkest skin tone. I want to see more diversity and acceptance of darker skin tones in media without it being seen as a charicature because people with darker skin tones exsist. My current character is a female inkling with the eyebrow cut and the spikey mowhawk and I always give her a respirator because it looks cool af. She is a bad bitch and my baby and I will protect her with my life.
Well this isn’t a surprise to me Nintendo gave to much power to the community with making there own names for splatoon 3 that’s the problem and I don’t see a problem is a black guy uses a white inkling or octoling then what reaction does that bring
it’s not really digital blackface but imo it’s more of just people feeling like they’re strong, tough, or cool for being darkskinned in a game, which is kinda stereotypical in a sense
.I'm black and I cosplay so, what's the damn problem, ppl always play the race card....hell I'm cosplaying as eve from Stellar blade next year and she's a skinny Asian woman, do I give a damn...no
My issue with the cultural appropriation debates or discourse is that it usually doubts or even undermines people's ability to be respectful but also like... Japanese people using dark skin to intimidate? Someone in the comments calling their dark skin oc a bad bitch? Sorry, shut it down, what the actual HELL
My little sister who's super sheltered is doing this with her Inkling trying to make it look like "Midna" from twilight Princess and I just.... don't know how to explain this to her without my mom ripping me a new one for explaining this. She's also like, 12 but still. It icks me tf out every time I see her doing it cuz like... squiddo, no that's digital blackface.
I really wouldn’t say it is. Your sister isn’t doing it as a way to be racist. Honestly I don’t see anything wrong with your little sister wanting to make her splatoon character to look like a character that she likes. It would only be wrong if she’s doing it to be racist.
I made an OC with a dark skin tone on a different file and I thought he looked pretty cool and got attached to it. Then I started loving the character I made. I rarely made characters with tones like the darkest one in the game, so I felt more attachment to it. The whole thing with people using the darkest skin tone for a character just to bait or offend or make a joke out of it makes me sad. It also makes me feel like shit because it can lead to impulsive people immediately jumping to racism accusations, which makes me feel like I’m the bad guy for simply having a black OC, despite being biracial. Even when it doesn’t, it still makes me feel like crap and it’s so easy to jump to conclusions over one thing instead of looking at the intent and context of it all. It’s crazy that people that people drag cosplaying for having dark skin, yet go silent when a white person does it, or they don’t get as much flack. It’s insane 💀 I initially thought the “black people joking about their own stereotypes” thing was how black people aren’t laughing at their pain, but they know the stereotypes are bs, but when a non-black person does it, it doesn’t hit the same way and we don’t always know if that person really thinks that about black people. I rarely use the n-word mainly (I only use it in private occasionally by myself or saying it with my brother if we’re the only two people in the room) because it sounds weird coming from my voice and because most people would see me as racially ambiguous, they would jump to the “racist” conclusion without realizing I had a black father, even though some biracial people have used the word. I also refrain from saying it out of respect. I’m sure a lot of black people, if they knew what I looked like, would know I had a black parent because most white people assume I’m something else like Native American. I rarely hear questions about what I am from black people, so I just kinda guess they knew it could come off as disrespectful, they knew, or they had other things to deal with. I apologize for the rambling at the end, just wanted to get this off my chest
if your dark skin inkling is your oc, a black person is still allowed to feel suspicious, hence YELLOW flag. Making excuses and being aggressively defensive about doesn’t help. Listen to those who’ve experienced first hand the discrimination they’ve faced, because sadly, most likely than not, the person behind the character doesn’t have good intent. This has been proven with Jackpot.
Most people dont have bad intentions, jackpot is just a small team of people. We shouldn't generalize racism since it antagonizes people and creates more problems, it should be judged on a case by case basis otherwise it just foments more prejudice.
I'm really really sorry, but I didn't 100% understand the points in the video? I get this is probably just me being dumb and not understanding the experiences in the same way so I am sorry, I just want to understand fully Is the issue purely related to how sadly common racism is, and that anyone doing it just always appears to be done with ill-intent because of how often it _is_ done with ill intent? Do you see people online using the darkest skin tone and it just puts a bad feeling in you because you can't shake the idea it'll be some white asshole doing it to be racist? Or is it purely when you KNOW someone white has the darkest skin tone for their character, its just a huge red flag? Is there other points in the video I missed? What I picked up was primarily that other people in the community have their character this way with the intention of being racist, which is gross and sad, I think my default attitude would be "well, it's about the intention!" but I think, is the point that its just uncomfortable having to deal with it regardless of what people claim their intentions to be? Once again tho I'm sorry if I'm not 100% getting it, ty to anyone who can explain the situation me ;-;
It’s more so the fact that there are people that will use the darkest skin to make racist memes and jokes 😔😔 Unfortunately a lot of black people’s response is to be cautious about that because we don’t know if a non black person is using it for malicious intent 😅😅
Why? Just why my inkling should look like me? It's a charactere in a video game not RL photo, not a black/white face. People on internet have a problem, I'm sorry. I'm a woman and i like to play man in video game and with different color skin because every color skin is beautiful and making a avatar in a video game = playing barby. I dont have the right to be happy and play a charactere that i like and custom a charactere the way i like? I mean is not me and i dont want my avatar to be me. Spoiler alert: It's cannot be me because I'm human girl and He's a calamar boy. It's Oc, avatar, barby, role play, imagination.... dream. If you like do self insert do it but stop bothering people who dont like do that. And playing a charactere with other color skin than you doesn't just show that... every color skin is beautiful? Also do that mean people dont have the right to play, write, draw charactere that isn't their exact skin tone, gender/s**, etc? It's stupid and racist. it's like when blacks and whites couldn't marry each other. AGAIN. It's just racist. I'm sorry if i've offended someone but i don't know... be human... I'm sick of seeing people becoming more and more racist and discriminatory on each side when things were finally starting to go in the right direction (at least where I live) when I was young. Also, I hope my English wasn't too bad. I'm writing this quickly on my phone.
When I first saw that post of the white guy and the black inkling I pushed back on the idea that they were putting on digital blackface, and was happy that someone was able to use the skin color that I’m afraid to use. Seeing the recent a discourse from the jackpot team and how 1 of them used it as digital blackface my thoughts on it has changed (only a little). I have white friends and family that are artists that appreciate black/ African culture more then some black people themselves (me included) so it always made me happy when I see someone of a different culture/ethnicity uses it. It’s sad that some people are using it to mock us, but I’d like for us to not shame people for using dark-skinned characters in videos games. I can’t tell you how happy I get when I see other characters with my skin color that’s not just white in my matches.
im so sorry you're getting so many weird comments op, the splatoon community really needs to make an effort to listen to black creators more. thank you for making this video 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
This may sound like i dont understand colourism and i dont, But what if a black person uses the whitest colour in s3? (questions context is if its used for bad intent)
@nevynervine yeah but still I would get it of you wanted multiple ocs and that was just one that you don't really use but how many more racism things are now gonna leal into splatoon 3
The internet and the “anonymity” of gaming spaces just enables people to pull some absolutely sheltered and bigoted behavior without harsh consequences. I wish people would realize that the internet is not anonymous, because if any of this stuff was taken offline, it would be different. People just need to have more empathy for others’ experiences that are not their own, especially if those experiences are influenced by being discriminated against based on stuff they cannot control, like skin color, hair texture, etc.
I honestly never even knew anyone was doing this. Im not sure we should care, especially with splatoon. But i get it in the wider space of gaming. Im also looking at weapons, though when people spawn to see what we have to deal with, i never considered that using a darker skin tone was supposed to scare people. Which is the most disappointing part of all of this.
Are we seriously gonna call it blackface? It's a videogame, people can make whatever they want and with splatoon i don't see how you can make it offensive unlike CoD which has racism in nearly every match.
Have you ever heard of the term "digital blackface" I think looking that up is a good starting point With this era of the internet a lot of people have found more ways to be racist when you can easily lie about your race on the internet and mock certain ppl by making an online caricature out of their race, you can find examples of this on social media and online games (there are a lot of ppl who like to larp as black and asian for some reason 🤨) It's harder to tell with splatoon players because you don't know the intent most of the time since it's a pvp with no voice chat and while some people just have ocs and change their character all of the time, some people choose the darkest skin tone while naming themselves after semi-censored slurs or weird stereotypes or to try to seem more ""intimidating"" or other problematic stuff like that I hope this was informative! Have a nice day ^_^
Oh your new here. Welcome 😅 Yeah one of the good things about splatoon is it doesn't have a voice chat so a match won't ever devolve into kids calling each other slurs but there are some crazy outliars in the community, like the jackpot guys (the topic of this video) those guys had a private discord where they'd say a lot of out of pocket bigoted shit and some of them would even go as far as to change their splatag to change their title to shit like "the ultimate fried chicken" when using the darkest skin tone The moral of the story is racist people will find creative ways to be racist even on a pvp without voice chat :/ Honestly digital blackface is something I recently learned about and it's a whole rabbit whole. People are crazy 😕
@@thirdwheel9938 to me it's pointless since you don't know the person's mindset, they must like their black inkling/octoling. I don't see how a person who is racist would play a black character.
The thing about splatoon and one of the reasons ive always loved it, is because its accepting to everyone, its a game about being yourself. as a bi black and disabled teen it speaks to me, All that matters is that your fresh, and being fresh is a state of mind. But shit like this it ruins it for me, it sucks like ive met plenty of cool people in this community but the fact that even in this game, even in this loving welcoming community we have disgusting people like this. it sucks. idk.
I saw someone who's white use a black skin tone, but it was to raise awareness about the stuff happening with Jackpot and they changed their username to "BLM". Is that still not ok or is it fine?
You’re not listening lol it’s not the fact that non black people are using the darkest skin, it’s the fact that many people have used the darkest shade to make racist jokes or use it because of stereotypes 😅😅
So, please don’t take this the wrong way, but I wasn’t able to watch this video or yesterday’s due to annoyance. I recognize that racism is an extremely important issue and is not right, however my personal experience is full of complaints about common struggles for different groups. (Sexism for girls and racism for black people. Please note that I know there is a nicer word than “black people” I just forgot it.) But as a white male, I get easily annoyed by this because everyone expects me to be ok with everything thrown at me. I’m assumed to be racist and sexist because of this and it’s to the point where I tend to not engage with anyone other than other white males that understand. Now, if you approach me (I’m antisocial with horrible skills) I’d be ok to hang out if you’re nice. I don’t care about any person and as a Christian, I’m unable to hate people, only actions. But, again, I understand racism is a problem and we have different experiences with it and everything else that built our ability to talk about it.
I'm black and I've dealt with my fair share of racism, but I can also tell how frustrating it is to be a white guy and see all these assumptions about you, esp. if they aren't true. Sometimes, you need to do yourself the favor and skip on some issues for the sake of your mental health. I do the same with topics about racism bc it's SO draining. I also have social anxiety, so I 100% feel you. Most sane people won't assume you're racist bc you're white, or sexist bc you're male.
Unfortunately it’s just a consequence of history and the past 😔 the oppressed are going to be apprehensive about their oppressors, but please don’t let that stop you from being the best person you can be 😊😊
I don’t understand this. most people don’t do “digital blackface” they just… make a character they like??? Or just a character they want? This is a little bit too silly. I very much understand racism but man can’t have a darker skin tone on a character I made I guess :/
Who said the player in the game is supposed to be real player? This is just ridiculous. Inklings and octolings are able to change their skin colour canonically. They are made up of ink so they can change their skin colour at any time.
That's not canon... They can however change their INK tone, I've read all the splatoon lore I could possibly get my hands on but never saw anything about inklings being able to change skin tone at will that's just misinfo, the only reason why you can change your skin tone in-game is because it's a literal videogame and locking your character into a certain appearance would be pretty inconvenient wouldn't it
@@thirdwheel9938 I don't think so because inklings are made up of ink, but I've seen more severe cases like some japanese people blackfishing. This is not serious at all. If you like black people and you want you character to be black, then ok. But I'm not diregarding the people that do it to be racist. If you really care about this, then go to the places where it's the most severe.
Disclaimer: I understand the issue of “black facing” and totally agree with the video. My respect to all PoC and sorry you have to endure a lot of racist crap out there. As for people who in general find it weird to pick ANY different skin tone than IRL, however… I have a question: is it weird to play as a squid instead of a human lol?
Please educate yourself on colorism and how it works before you comment. This is something that many people of color face. This issue is terrible in the black community. The history of black face is way to strong for people to not understand or have a little sympathy. We have people in are community that hate their skin. That is something NO ONE should have to go through.
Please just think!
Ya definitely, the issue isn’t having a black oc, it’s when you actively use it as a excuse,
Guess the comments didn't read this and instead took it as: Your character has to be the same skin tone of you, no matter what.
I don’t see the problem with using a skin tone that doesn’t match yours like it’s their choice and it’s not hurting anyone it’s their customizable character. I don’t care if someone who isn’t my skin tone uses it. Idgaf
@@Drdoomglazer947 issue isn't using different skin tones. The issue is the darkest skin tone and why we're cautious about it.
@@KenKnowsIt Question, would using a dark skin tone to act cool be considered racist? I’m just asking because someone in this comment section quite clearly doesn’t understand the message you are trying to convey.
I don't think white people using the darkest skin tone as an oc isn't a bad thing as long as it isn't it isn't supposed to be you.
Yeah, while most other games with a character creator I make representations of myself, for whatever reason with Splatoon I just.. don't. It's always some form of OC. I'm just realizing that and I wonder why exactly my Inkling/Octoling is the only exception, really..
That's why they specified that it's a yellow flag. Those who understand the nuance didn't get mad, but as mentioned people hounded this user.
Real, because i couldn't choose the hair color it really limited the set of characters i usually make for character customization (an anime character, myself, my oc) so i just made an oc specifically for splatoon. For side order i just made canon agent 8
as long as you aren’t using it to mock black people then i think it doesn’t really matter
Hit a lot of nerves in these comments lol. I feel like the majority of people taking this video to heart are apart of the issue. Idgaf if you have a character that has darker skin than you, shi I got white oc’s myself. But if your going on games that give you that option to have dark skin and you take and use it for derogatory purposes then your doing digital blackface. Making your character black them naming yourself bs like “Monkey” or “Nikka/Ninja” is honestly sad and nobody’s laughing. Quite literally this same shit is on every game. Roblox,Fortnite,Vr, literally anywhere. Still I support people anyone choosing any shade they want as long as you’re not choosing it for any racist shit. Have a blessed day because its too early for everyone to be upset and trolling. Make the best out of the day please 🙏
Fr like if it’s for an oc that’s completely fine but if they’re using racist purposes then it’s a problem and they should stop
This 1000% imo, as a black person too with a bunch of OCs of different skin color and also making a story so it's inevitable, I think in that regard it's fine, but the racism and other ways of mockery aren't fine
I feel like if i, as a black person can make a white character with no ill intent, then others should be able to as well?
Exactly
I do that as well I have a mixture of white and black ocs heck I use to play as a white inkling and I’m black.
Idk this community is brain rotted but it’s Nintendo what do you expect
Yes but it’s still iffy to do that. Personally if I were trying to make myself in the game I wouldn’t choose a different skin color. It depends on the intentions, you never know if they’re racist or just wanted to
It's very hard to distingush between someone creating a dark skinned OC and virtual blackface. And you can't really tell which one it is until things like what happened recently come out.
I am black myself and I'm not sure if this has anything to do with this, but when I was younger, whenever I had the chance to customize a character (I would always base it off myself), I would always make myself white. I'm not sure why I did, but I assume I saw some horrible things being done against black people and assumed I would be "liked" more if I "fit in." Thankfully, it didn't take me long to get over that.
Me personally, I don't mind if you make your own character something that is not your skin color (Or sex in that matter). That's totally fine! Just don't use it in a way where you end up hurting others. Some people like using black skin tones because it makes them feel/look cool. That's alright in my opinion. Not sure how to explain it, but as long as they aren't so fixated on it, it should be fine.
"If it comes down to it I know we're gonna be back here"
That was a gut punch to end the video on. I'm so sorry man
Let’s also not forget that JP players do this a lot because they think it looks cool and nothing more. You can be who ever you wan min this game as long as you are not being derogatory about it
The OP’s point makes sense. I’m based in Japan but I’ve never heard anyone using a particular skin tone to intimidate other players, at least in Splatoon. Some of the weapons or the bear ears do that effectively though!
This
That's what I would have assumed without the added context. But of course, we can't have nice things because racists will try to use anything as an insult.
As a white man who has had multiple black friends and teammates, they deserve as much respect and rights as we do. They just want to find a place of belonging in the community but these people keep pushing them away and this really hurts me. Treat them like brothers and sisters. Thank you for reading this and Ken have a good day if you see this stay strong brother
As long as its bc they genuinely like the skin tone and isnt choosing it as a meme or something i dont mind and even appreciate it to an extent. i grew up hating my own skin tone so the fact that other people like dark skin tones enough for their oc and avatars to have them makes me happy
Same like i grew up hating myself not because of racism mostly because of beauty standard in the early 2000 of "perfect skin"aka white skin and being skinny i started to hate myself
@coffee_2234 i used to point to the palm of my hand and say "look im white" bc i thought that shit was cute. No boo, its sad
@@glitter587same i remember thinking to myself at three years old thinking "why i was born in a dark latina tan and not beautiful white american skin" which looking back now it disgusting way of thinking that the "beauty standard" gave me
@glitter587 i legit feel bad for kids nowadays especially black/latino kids getting expose to social media nowadays at a young age especially how prevalent toxic beauty standard is giving them body image issue with all of the filters
I’ve said it before, I find it incredibly weird when people do that.
And when you try explaining your thoughts on why it’s weird or problematic, people misinterpret your words.
It’s not that they’ll misinterpret your words 😂 it’s the fact you could explain your point perfectly and they’ll twist it to make any excuse instead of just acknowledging what you’re saying 😭😭
Thank you Ken for taking this on. I know it isn't fun, but it's important.
Yeah there was a guy on tiktok that was cosplaying as a vocaloid and people were taking the piss out of them I felt bad for him because. he was black and a character was white
The kaito cosplayer :((
I don’t think the character is white in that case then lol
“White” 😭
dude vocaloids can literally be any race idk what theyre on 😭😭
@@polygawn cosplaying about having fun it shouldn't matter what race the character is
The Splatoon community should be a place where we should be at peace and love each other, but it's the exact opposite
I don't have Twitter, so I can't really say for certain, but it always felt like it was at least.. better compared to other communities. When it comes to LGBTQ+-type stuff, yeah, I still think Splatoon is one of the most welcoming and accepting in that regard. The concept of this community having a big problem with letting racism exist is super new to me, and while I doubt that a majority of Splatoon fans online are racist like this, I can never be certain. I just pray most people are normal and sane
so true, everyones always looking for a reason to get pissed at each other
Fr the game is literally about ending octo racism and accepting people that are different so why do people have to act like that
@@squidduI’m a straight white female with autism and ADHD, and from someone who’s very outside the queer and race circles, this situation (along with the screen one) really made me realize that the community seems to mainly accept queer people. It feels like a lot of mental and racial problems are ignored
A place like that doesn't exist, every community, doesn't matter which one, it's going to have disputes and weirdos. Just enjoy whatever you are following and try to get away of fights.
Tbh as a black person, I think people should be free to use their characters as they please and be judged on individual basis on IF they do harbor any sort of prejudice.
Yellow flags and red flags are entirely subjective to ones experience and what is a yellow flag to one could be a red to other and even a green one to some, it really isn't something that can be used as a way to guage the integrity of ones morals and falls more on who is seeing those flags, which is even why we see cases of death threats being thrown around because someone saw a "red flag" and wanted to take action.
And on the topic of cosplay: it goes both ways, Ive seen people cosplay black characters and also get flack and threats and bullying for it, its something that really is bad on both ends since it keeps people from having fun and dressing as cool characters the admire.
Overall as society we should just move on and judge people not by the color of their skin (or of their OCs) but instead Judge them for their character.
And tbh in my personal case, Splatoon 1 I made myself with my skin tone.
Splatoon 2 I made a White female inkling that was another character entirely and then I made 8 with a ligher skintone then mine.
Come Splatoon 3 and I made one with a darker skin tone.
Tbh if Splatoon had more major customization options I would use more things besides skintone and hair color to differentiate my characters.
Most people are just trying to have fun and have a nice variety of characters.
Plus tbh on the "asian people using darker skin tones to look more intimidating" we need to remember that skin color still talks about color and that certain colors have more constrast and blend better with others and overall this doesn't come from prejudice or racism but more so because thats color that has a bigger clash with inkling hair and blends in with their eye masks while highlighting their sclera.
Overall intentions is the most important thing when discussion of what is a red flag.
This is so well said
Fr when I was in elementary school everyone was told not to judge anyone based on their skin tone but now that’s is all anyone does now. 😔 I don’t care if you use a darker skin tone in game, as long as you aren’t pretending to be black.
The one person who has any level of intelligence in this comment section. You deserve a medal for that
Not when there's generations of history with people treating are skin as a joke. Not when dark skinned individuals are made to be the poster boy of being ugly.
We as a society can't move on because they still have racism around this topic. The issue isn't people using different shades. The issue comes from the jokes and people using the skin color as a joke.
Blackface and digital blackface are wrong.
This is something that needs to be addressed because it's an issue.
Topic of cosplay does not go both ways. What ever fairy tale you want is fine. This is reality and racism is real.
@@KenKnowsIt if we never move on then we will never move on.
This sounds repetitive but we need to understand as a collective that there will always be bad people, we can't just make our problem everyone's problem, I feel bad ruining a lot of people's fun when they are doing something entirely innocent just because a fraction of them are bad.
There will never be a moment in society where there is zero racism, if you are wanting for that to move on then unfortunately you will never move on because the more we (we as in everyone regardless of color) antagonize concepts, cultures, religions, clothes, hair styles and accents ( words too but but words are way more subjective and change meaning all the time) there will always be a 2 way conflict with the many innocent people in the middle suffering for it.
We (now as in the black community), should be wary of things that concern us and watch out for potential dangers, but we should also be more careful to not act out and unnecessarily antagonize others, otherwise we are basically being like that one cop who shot someone because they were afraid of a gun and it turned out to be a BB, or that bullied kid who started being rude and beating up others, or the quiet kid who... (I think you got the point.
Which is why its important to judge the individuals who use characters of a different skin tone rather than raise general blank statements that antagonize the concept of people having digial personas, OCs or avatars of a different skin tone, if there are people harassing others and sending death threats to people who are just having fun and not actually being hateful, spiteful or trying to make fun of others in bad faith then the message and meaning of what is digital black face is not clear enough.
And overall you are completely right about wanting to talk about it and to discuss it.
I personally do not care if white people or Asian people use dark skin tones for their character in-game. Many times people just say that they think it looks cool on their Octo/Inkling. I find it flattering! BUT. I will say it's offensive when their name is also paired up with a name that's obviously offensive, or a euphemism for a slur or something.
i’ve always thought it’s weird that since splatoon 1 people have been using the DARKEST skin tone while also being lighter than snow 😭
Does it make them feel tough? Because it doesn’t to me.
It’s their character and they can do whatever they want with it. You can find it weird, that’s your choice but the fact of the matter is that they can do whatever they want with their character and we have no right to tell them to use a different skin tone
I have an oc that happens to have the 2nd darkest tone (I have like 4 oc’s) I’m genuinely asking,should I change it or is it fine?
@@yaya6195 your good but it’s just like if you’re making fun of black people then that’s an issue
@@yaya6195nah you’re good buddy :) thank you so much for asking ‼️
why can’t our funny squid game just remain being funny squid game 😔
splatoon is about racism. it’s always been political honestly
Hola mi amigo. Como estas? Soy bien.
@@squid583 ill be that guy
i believe that splatoon heavily features speciesism and we perceive it as an analogy for racism. still yeah if theres a community this is probably eventually going to happen
@@squid583 nah people just love to ruin things
It’s always gonna be the same bro even if we try best to stop it is never gonna end
Is just hurtful no one wants to be called a monkey. I’ve been called a monkey by my white friend multiple times and I don’t even hang around him anymore
Best thing we can do right now is not to entertain it because they say they sorry but they really not
Digital blackface is a huge issue in gaming space and whenever black people try to speak up, we get ignored or ridiculed
When i played Splatoon 2 i was in a private room with friends and randoms well i was talking in voice chat when a random join and he started talking to me and i remember his character was brown skin and his name was El taco didn't think much about it. So i talked to him in Spanish and he had no idea what I was saying he said i speak English and Japanese, so spoke to him in english and asked are you from Japan? He said yes so i told him bro I'm from Texas and we just asked questions about each other countries but when i asked about his about his character and the name he said that he likes Mexican culture and he wanted his character to be Mexican and the name the was the first thing that came up. It never brother me that he made his inkling was brown and even we i told my friends about it we all just had a laugh, people are just different on how they see things
I remember watching this guys channel when he was at 1k subs it’s awesome to how much his channel has gained
thank you so much for speaking about this. everyone loves to act like it’s not a big deal
Thanks for this video
This stuff is so upsetting
Im tired of everyone telling our people how to feel about racism
Saying that we cause this or we blow things out of proportion
To anyone saying this you dont care about us
Dont talk about us
You want to live in a fantasy while we choose reality,
You are trash people, and you are just as racist when you cape for this crap
To my black people don't allow people to make you feel like they can push you out
We belong in these spaces and no one will tell us to leave
So much for this community being "accepting." This community really fell off with Splatoon 3.
so true
this might be nostalgia for me but i felt like the game was just more fun pre 3
@@giganticmoon Definitely. 3 is still the best entry in the series for me, but 2 didn't have these racist losers in it.
Seeing all of this makes me feel so, so disappointed.
the community has been like this since splatoon 1. this isnt a splatoon 3 specific problem.
None of this is new. The community is just larger now, so it's easier to point out specific examples
My game characters are very rarely of myself. Maybe others are like that too? I use a white-tan colour. Should I not be? I also use the female body and secks divides humanity on a way bigger scale than race in terms of differences. Should I use the (intended to be, but removed the wording to make people feel better) male instead?
Look like i pick wrong day to pre order Assassin Creed shadow
Appreciate you using your platform to spread awareness on this reoccurring issue. This is beyond video games as a society we gotta change the stigma so the rhetoric can simmer even a small percentage. I personally don't have a problem with someone using a darker tone inkling/octoling just hope their intentions are pure.
Didnt we do this already
Yes, 2 years ago
I'm white myself and use a character with darkened skin. Just because I like the way it looks, I don't think about any race.
That is really weird, its dumb, and i have an issue finding a middle tone to march my skin in game. Thankfully Splatoon has it.
I remember using a dark skin tone in splatoon 2 for my inkling cause I thought it looked cooler with the gear I had on
As a mod for r/splatoon, seeing people excusing jackpot's actions were jokes or private between friends or even drama of the week, despite how hurtful it is to poc like myself. that's why these issues keep being swept under the rug, and it works all the time. It's tiring
doesnt feel like a joke if its not funny
Me personally when I friend people that play splatoon and their character is a certain skin tone I expect them to be that skin tone I get so excited when I see a black splatoon player and then realize they actually aren’t when I friend them on a social platform it’s like I’ve been scammed💀
I think your video is really interesting and I'd NEVER!! would hurt someone on purpose just cause of their skin tone. Humans are humans and black people are beautiful. I am a white person and I'm always crying when I have to face or watch racism-related stuff. But here I am, randomly watching your video and it makes me wonder one big thing:
I gave my Inkling the 2nd darkest skin tone cause I really like it and I wanted to show support to all the people out there. I always thought that it would make people feel accepted and loved.
And now I wonder if this made the opposite?
Like I said: I'd NEVER!! hate on someone for their skin tone.
thanks for talking about this
I think the context, as usual, matters a lot. Like, for a player who’s just doing solo queue with no online Splatoon presence, no voice chatting, then it doesn’t really matter. Vice versa though, then you have to think about the perception of white person playing a black/darkest tone character. And while it would be nice to life in a world where only our intentions matters and others perceptions don’t factor in, we don’t.
For what it’s worth, I don’t run into a lot of players in solo queue using the darkest tone so I suspect this isn’t a super widespread issue.
First world problems must be nice
I’m curious about people’s opinion on using skin tone strategically like if there was a splatfest that had a black ink color so you made an octoling with an Afro and the darkest skin tone and only wear black clothes because it has no correlation to race
Personally, as a coping mechanism, I use female characters in every game with character customization. As a way to experience what my friends have called gender euphoria.
Then there are people who choose the opposite sex for fun, which doesn’t seemed to be frowned upon. But playing as a completely different skin tone…
I honestly don’t know what to think on this matter, I see some saying it’s fine as long as you keep away from digital blackface and are not being derogatory with it.
I would like some people, especially of colour, to weigh in on this and tell me what they think.
Any updates on the jackpot drama? I’m okay waiting
And South Park gets away with it lol
For me it's not just the darkest skintone. Don't get me wrong I 100% see and understand the blackface and colourism implications, but as lighter skinned (around Kens complexion) bp myself I'd be uncomfortable if someone of pale complexion (ie any non black person, or person not of a notably darker skinned race) used a skintone that was **significantly** darker than theirs. With the more light but still dark skintones it definitely is way harder to tell, but like you were mentioning in the previous video sometimes the non explicit stuff and how comfortable people are doing stuff can make me a bit uncomfortable. It can come off as a microagression.
Saying this not to detract from other people's experiences or lower their voice, especially of more dark skintones (colourism is a terrible part of racism) I just want to put my perspective out there too.
I just pick the skin tone i like the most which varies from game to game and if that is a black skin tone, im gonna choose it even if im not black myself
I am white and actually used a black skin tone in Splatoon 2 multiplayer.
I basically skipped Splat 2 until Splat 3 was announced so while I didn't want to put in as much time as say Splat 1 I did get a library copy to play Octo Canyon and Octo expansion to get on par with the story. I had a white inkling for main story but chose a black octoling for Octo Expansion, as I read many aspects of the dlc from music to choice for marketing characters as black-coded, so I chose a black (basically the octo expansion trailer skin tone, not the darkest one) octoling with an afro that I thought looked fresh. After I saved Splatsville from doom he grew on me so I took the same octo character to pvp and salmon run for the two weeks left I had on my library copy.
Overall Octo Expansion is one of my all time favourite single player shooter campaigns up there with the classics (Half Life, Halo, Quake, Wolfenstein)
the fact that this video has to be made because people are so dense
As a black Splatoon player/streamer/content creator myself, much respect to you putting these videos out. I know you say you don't take pleasure in making these, but simply making these to bring awareness is enough & all that I ask for.
Though I am disappointed about the entirety of this situation, I hope we as a community take this as a lesson going forward to do better & give everyone in this community a voice, no matter your race, gender; etc. We pride ourselves on being all-inclusive, so don't allow anyone's actions or words to take away your right to be included in this community. Don't tolerate the bad actors, of course. But even so, hold them accountable for what they say/do & let them know that these things aren't ok under any circumstance.
Honestly, the only reason why I might use the dark skin tone is only if it looks good with my gear, same goes for all skin tones. I would never try using my character as a symbol to make fun of others, only to what I feel comfortable with.
I found it hilarious how people get upset over people using virtual avatars that doesent match their real apperance even tho its your choice to customize it and you only control it not everyone its.
In real life im Tan skinned, well, more towards the darker than lighter tone, but i used a darker skin tone in game. Why? Because its supposed to resemble my OC! That.. isnt wrong, isnt it?
Oh boy is Splatoon about to have it's own space buns moment?
"imagine you're a 6 year old playing animal crossing and it starts asking you what color your skin is"
this is different.
I think you mean the splatoon community is In some hot water right now because of the drama
Not the space buns again. That poor girl just had fun with a cute hairstyle.
You mean when racist people suddenly decide black features are cool but only when it's applied to their fictional avatars? 🤔
Because that's the reason why that space bun girl got criticized, because she was being racist while her character had a black hairstyle. It sucks to see how most people don't even know the context behind that situation and only use it as an example of black people being "" "" unreasonable "" "" "
Ok I thought I was going crazy too thinking this shit was weird fr like somwhat darker tones who cares.. but the DARKEST TONE in the game ⁉️⁉️⁉️
Nah you not. Most sadly won't get it.
Im white, and I've been playing splatoon since the first game. Every game, I make a new character, and all of them I've made the darkest skin tone. I want to see more diversity and acceptance of darker skin tones in media without it being seen as a charicature because people with darker skin tones exsist. My current character is a female inkling with the eyebrow cut and the spikey mowhawk and I always give her a respirator because it looks cool af. She is a bad bitch and my baby and I will protect her with my life.
It's about time someone brought this up!!! 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
It's a very nuanced conversation for sure, but it definitely something that should be talked about regardless.
I didn't even know this was a thing. Thanks for spreading this information ❤
Well this isn’t a surprise to me Nintendo gave to much power to the community with making there own names for splatoon 3 that’s the problem and I don’t see a problem is a black guy uses a white inkling or octoling then what reaction does that bring
it’s not really digital blackface but imo it’s more of just people feeling like they’re strong, tough, or cool for being darkskinned in a game, which is kinda stereotypical in a sense
I’m really happy that you’re using your platform to speak about the issues we’re facing in the black community
.I'm black and I cosplay so, what's the damn problem, ppl always play the race card....hell I'm cosplaying as eve from Stellar blade next year and she's a skinny Asian woman, do I give a damn...no
Did you not fucking watch the video num nuts? If you use it for ill intentions
My issue with the cultural appropriation debates or discourse is that it usually doubts or even undermines people's ability to be respectful but also like...
Japanese people using dark skin to intimidate? Someone in the comments calling their dark skin oc a bad bitch? Sorry, shut it down, what the actual HELL
My little sister who's super sheltered is doing this with her Inkling trying to make it look like "Midna" from twilight Princess and I just.... don't know how to explain this to her without my mom ripping me a new one for explaining this.
She's also like, 12 but still. It icks me tf out every time I see her doing it cuz like... squiddo, no that's digital blackface.
I really wouldn’t say it is. Your sister isn’t doing it as a way to be racist. Honestly I don’t see anything wrong with your little sister wanting to make her splatoon character to look like a character that she likes. It would only be wrong if she’s doing it to be racist.
I made an OC with a dark skin tone on a different file and I thought he looked pretty cool and got attached to it. Then I started loving the character I made. I rarely made characters with tones like the darkest one in the game, so I felt more attachment to it. The whole thing with people using the darkest skin tone for a character just to bait or offend or make a joke out of it makes me sad. It also makes me feel like shit because it can lead to impulsive people immediately jumping to racism accusations, which makes me feel like I’m the bad guy for simply having a black OC, despite being biracial. Even when it doesn’t, it still makes me feel like crap and it’s so easy to jump to conclusions over one thing instead of looking at the intent and context of it all.
It’s crazy that people that people drag cosplaying for having dark skin, yet go silent when a white person does it, or they don’t get as much flack. It’s insane
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I initially thought the “black people joking about their own stereotypes” thing was how black people aren’t laughing at their pain, but they know the stereotypes are bs, but when a non-black person does it, it doesn’t hit the same way and we don’t always know if that person really thinks that about black people.
I rarely use the n-word mainly (I only use it in private occasionally by myself or saying it with my brother if we’re the only two people in the room) because it sounds weird coming from my voice and because most people would see me as racially ambiguous, they would jump to the “racist” conclusion without realizing I had a black father, even though some biracial people have used the word. I also refrain from saying it out of respect. I’m sure a lot of black people, if they knew what I looked like, would know I had a black parent because most white people assume I’m something else like Native American. I rarely hear questions about what I am from black people, so I just kinda guess they knew it could come off as disrespectful, they knew, or they had other things to deal with.
I apologize for the rambling at the end, just wanted to get this off my chest
if your dark skin inkling is your oc, a black person is still allowed to feel suspicious, hence YELLOW flag. Making excuses and being aggressively defensive about doesn’t help. Listen to those who’ve experienced first hand the discrimination they’ve faced, because sadly, most likely than not, the person behind the character doesn’t have good intent. This has been proven with Jackpot.
Most people dont have bad intentions, jackpot is just a small team of people.
We shouldn't generalize racism since it antagonizes people and creates more problems, it should be judged on a case by case basis otherwise it just foments more prejudice.
I'm really really sorry, but I didn't 100% understand the points in the video? I get this is probably just me being dumb and not understanding the experiences in the same way so I am sorry, I just want to understand fully
Is the issue purely related to how sadly common racism is, and that anyone doing it just always appears to be done with ill-intent because of how often it _is_ done with ill intent?
Do you see people online using the darkest skin tone and it just puts a bad feeling in you because you can't shake the idea it'll be some white asshole doing it to be racist? Or is it purely when you KNOW someone white has the darkest skin tone for their character, its just a huge red flag?
Is there other points in the video I missed? What I picked up was primarily that other people in the community have their character this way with the intention of being racist, which is gross and sad, I think my default attitude would be "well, it's about the intention!" but I think, is the point that its just uncomfortable having to deal with it regardless of what people claim their intentions to be?
Once again tho I'm sorry if I'm not 100% getting it, ty to anyone who can explain the situation me ;-;
It’s more so the fact that there are people that will use the darkest skin to make racist memes and jokes 😔😔 Unfortunately a lot of black people’s response is to be cautious about that because we don’t know if a non black person is using it for malicious intent 😅😅
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Why? Just why my inkling should look like me?
It's a charactere in a video game not RL photo, not a black/white face. People on internet have a problem, I'm sorry.
I'm a woman and i like to play man in video game and with different color skin because every color skin is beautiful and making a avatar in a video game = playing barby.
I dont have the right to be happy and play a charactere that i like and custom a charactere the way i like?
I mean is not me and i dont want my avatar to be me.
Spoiler alert: It's cannot be me because I'm human girl and He's a calamar boy. It's Oc, avatar, barby, role play, imagination.... dream.
If you like do self insert do it but stop bothering people who dont like do that.
And playing a charactere with other color skin than you doesn't just show that... every color skin is beautiful?
Also do that mean people dont have the right to play, write, draw charactere that isn't their exact skin tone, gender/s**, etc? It's stupid and racist. it's like when blacks and whites couldn't marry each other. AGAIN. It's just racist.
I'm sorry if i've offended someone but i don't know... be human...
I'm sick of seeing people becoming more and more racist and discriminatory on each side when things were finally starting to go in the right direction (at least where I live) when I was young.
Also, I hope my English wasn't too bad. I'm writing this quickly on my phone.
@holyknighthodrick5223 I had listened to his video. I wasn't talking about Ken. Sorry if it sounded like I was.
When I first saw that post of the white guy and the black inkling I pushed back on the idea that they were putting on digital blackface, and was happy that someone was able to use the skin color that I’m afraid to use. Seeing the recent a discourse from the jackpot team and how 1 of them used it as digital blackface my thoughts on it has changed (only a little). I have white friends and family that are artists that appreciate black/ African culture more then some black people themselves (me included) so it always made me happy when I see someone of a different culture/ethnicity uses it. It’s sad that some people are using it to mock us, but I’d like for us to not shame people for using dark-skinned characters in videos games. I can’t tell you how happy I get when I see other characters with my skin color that’s not just white in my matches.
im so sorry you're getting so many weird comments op, the splatoon community really needs to make an effort to listen to black creators more. thank you for making this video 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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To everyone trying to "justify" why they use a dark skin character: Congrats, you missed the point.
This may sound like i dont understand colourism and i dont,
But what if a black person uses the whitest colour in s3?
(questions context is if its used for bad intent)
They would also be in the wrong 🤷🏾
@nevynervine yeah but still I would get it of you wanted multiple ocs and that was just one that you don't really use but how many more racism things are now gonna leal into splatoon 3
The internet and the “anonymity” of gaming spaces just enables people to pull some absolutely sheltered and bigoted behavior without harsh consequences. I wish people would realize that the internet is not anonymous, because if any of this stuff was taken offline, it would be different. People just need to have more empathy for others’ experiences that are not their own, especially if those experiences are influenced by being discriminated against based on stuff they cannot control, like skin color, hair texture, etc.
I honestly never even knew anyone was doing this. Im not sure we should care, especially with splatoon. But i get it in the wider space of gaming.
Im also looking at weapons, though when people spawn to see what we have to deal with, i never considered that using a darker skin tone was supposed to scare people. Which is the most disappointing part of all of this.
Are we seriously gonna call it blackface? It's a videogame, people can make whatever they want and with splatoon i don't see how you can make it offensive unlike CoD which has racism in nearly every match.
Oh boy do I have a video for you
@@KenKnowsIt do show, I am not familiar with splatoon and it's community since I picked up the game this month
Have you ever heard of the term "digital blackface" I think looking that up is a good starting point
With this era of the internet a lot of people have found more ways to be racist when you can easily lie about your race on the internet and mock certain ppl by making an online caricature out of their race, you can find examples of this on social media and online games (there are a lot of ppl who like to larp as black and asian for some reason 🤨)
It's harder to tell with splatoon players because you don't know the intent most of the time since it's a pvp with no voice chat and while some people just have ocs and change their character all of the time, some people choose the darkest skin tone while naming themselves after semi-censored slurs or weird stereotypes or to try to seem more ""intimidating"" or other problematic stuff like that
I hope this was informative! Have a nice day ^_^
Oh your new here. Welcome 😅
Yeah one of the good things about splatoon is it doesn't have a voice chat so a match won't ever devolve into kids calling each other slurs but there are some crazy outliars in the community, like the jackpot guys (the topic of this video) those guys had a private discord where they'd say a lot of out of pocket bigoted shit and some of them would even go as far as to change their splatag to change their title to shit like "the ultimate fried chicken" when using the darkest skin tone
The moral of the story is racist people will find creative ways to be racist even on a pvp without voice chat :/
Honestly digital blackface is something I recently learned about and it's a whole rabbit whole. People are crazy 😕
@@thirdwheel9938 to me it's pointless since you don't know the person's mindset, they must like their black inkling/octoling. I don't see how a person who is racist would play a black character.
The thing about splatoon and one of the reasons ive always loved it, is because its accepting to everyone, its a game about being yourself. as a bi black and disabled teen it speaks to me,
All that matters is that your fresh, and being fresh is a state of mind.
But shit like this it ruins it for me, it sucks like ive met plenty of cool people in this community but the fact that even in this game, even in this loving welcoming community we have disgusting people like this. it sucks. idk.
the fact that you have to actually sit down and explain this is INSANE
I saw someone who's white use a black skin tone, but it was to raise awareness about the stuff happening with Jackpot and they changed their username to "BLM". Is that still not ok or is it fine?
HOLA
Come on man its a video game character your meant to be able to look however you want I just dont understand
You’re not listening lol it’s not the fact that non black people are using the darkest skin, it’s the fact that many people have used the darkest shade to make racist jokes or use it because of stereotypes 😅😅
Black people are awesome.
Why do you guys care? I just dont let it bother me even if the racism is directed toward me
So, please don’t take this the wrong way, but I wasn’t able to watch this video or yesterday’s due to annoyance. I recognize that racism is an extremely important issue and is not right, however my personal experience is full of complaints about common struggles for different groups. (Sexism for girls and racism for black people. Please note that I know there is a nicer word than “black people” I just forgot it.) But as a white male, I get easily annoyed by this because everyone expects me to be ok with everything thrown at me. I’m assumed to be racist and sexist because of this and it’s to the point where I tend to not engage with anyone other than other white males that understand. Now, if you approach me (I’m antisocial with horrible skills) I’d be ok to hang out if you’re nice. I don’t care about any person and as a Christian, I’m unable to hate people, only actions. But, again, I understand racism is a problem and we have different experiences with it and everything else that built our ability to talk about it.
I'm black and I've dealt with my fair share of racism, but I can also tell how frustrating it is to be a white guy and see all these assumptions about you, esp. if they aren't true. Sometimes, you need to do yourself the favor and skip on some issues for the sake of your mental health. I do the same with topics about racism bc it's SO draining.
I also have social anxiety, so I 100% feel you. Most sane people won't assume you're racist bc you're white, or sexist bc you're male.
Unfortunately it’s just a consequence of history and the past 😔 the oppressed are going to be apprehensive about their oppressors, but please don’t let that stop you from being the best person you can be 😊😊
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I don’t understand this. most people don’t do “digital blackface” they just… make a character they like??? Or just a character they want? This is a little bit too silly. I very much understand racism but man can’t have a darker skin tone on a character I made I guess :/
Yeah like wtf I just want my octoling to have a black skin tone and me being white :/
@@ryankfg4762 As long as you don’t use it in a derogatory term that’s fine
@@gabrielboudjema4076 It’s ok as long as you’re not using it in a derogatory term and if it’s an oc then it’s fine
@@Squeegeee515 good :3
It's not a problem
This is a videogame :/
and the playable characters are cephalopods and not humans
..about racism
@@squid583about two different species..
@@CallMeVienna exactly..allegory
Im someone who is a hispanic male and i usually play as a darker skin inkling girl because she cute am i bad? 😭😭
Nvm i just finished the video, i dont have bad intent with it as you said in the video.
This is a waste of time and energy. There are bigger issues than this.
Who said the player in the game is supposed to be real player? This is just ridiculous. Inklings and octolings are able to change their skin colour canonically. They are made up of ink so they can change their skin colour at any time.
That's not canon... They can however change their INK tone, I've read all the splatoon lore I could possibly get my hands on but never saw anything about inklings being able to change skin tone at will that's just misinfo, the only reason why you can change your skin tone in-game is because it's a literal videogame and locking your character into a certain appearance would be pretty inconvenient wouldn't it
@@thirdwheel9938 I don't think so because inklings are made up of ink, but I've seen more severe cases like some japanese people blackfishing. This is not serious at all. If you like black people and you want you character to be black, then ok. But I'm not diregarding the people that do it to be racist. If you really care about this, then go to the places where it's the most severe.
Disclaimer: I understand the issue of “black facing” and totally agree with the video. My respect to all PoC and sorry you have to endure a lot of racist crap out there.
As for people who in general find it weird to pick ANY different skin tone than IRL, however… I have a question: is it weird to play as a squid instead of a human lol?
worst take 2024 award
Read the pinned comment.
@@SALTYTOAD00 digital blackface is not real. who I choose to be in a video game is my sole choice. go outside you terminally online specimen.
@@easternfruit4134 REAL
this video a whole world premiere
this guy really just said digital blackface is real because I wanna play as a cool dark skin squid 💀
So, you completely missed the point of the video.
does it make you feel cool or tough to be dark-skinned? what do you gain from that?
@@SALTYTOAD00 don't think so, its a choice for a fictional video game character its really not that deep 👽
@JohnCena-yq7tz It's not the fact that they're black that's the problem. It's the fact that the players use it to make fun of said group.
@@giganticmoon what you sniffing man it just looks cool? why you analyzing a color choice in a funny squid game lmfao
Is it really other people's problem how I make my character look?
@holyknighthodrick5223 🫡 thank you for clearing the fog here.