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- What color would you paint this beast?
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I'd go sunburst for the classic vibe and the live cream 1 as well even though it won't look exactly like the cream firebird.
+1 on sunburst. Just about everything now is in what would then have been called a custom color, so while a SB would require more work getting the rest of the old paint off, it'd look even more distinctive!
@@davehopping7212yes, best option imho
Same, the dark sunburst in those looks great
Same dude
I’d say the plugs might have been for knots in the wood that were drilled out by the factory to be able to still use the wood-no problem when it‘s being finished in a solid color anyway.
@@bigthewig9624 ive never seen one and ive got a shop FULL of it....from the 60's
@@bigthewig9624 Any tree with limbs has knots.
It was originally finished sunburst...not opaque
Pelham blue all day every day, with a two tone headstock (blue/black)
Edit: and a stained/clear back
Doubling down on Iverness Green. What a killer color that would be!!!
Hell yes!
Love that color. Tough one to get right. It's not as green as the color you normally see done today..
Green or blue
same. its my favorite gibson color
but i would probably paint it pelham blue
I think Frost Blue would be nice
seafoam green. never seen it on a firebird but itd be killer
I would literally scrape of every bit of paint and put just a lacquer on there which makes the wood look dark and nice
100% Cardinal Red, killer custom colour and period correct, can't think of anything better!
Six String Tales Phil Manzanera from Roxy Music has had a red Firebird from the 70’s and it has always been an iconic guitar to me!
A car-esq sparkle red with gold hardware would be amazing
was thinking the same thing, would look great
Ember Red
I was thinking the same thing: red, with the white pickguard and chrome hardware. It would look killer.
After looking at the available colors from the era, Im going to have to vote for Heather Poly. I think its unique and I can picture Hendrix playing one lol..
gotta agree it looks so sleek and the rose gold is just so fitting to the sound.
Best colour, hands down
One of my favorites. Again, tough to get right..
@@MatthewScottmusic I'm sure you'll be able to find a guy! Such an unique guitar, with all the history it has, deserves an unique colour
This is really the only way to go.
Inverness Green.
The most amazing 60’s Gibson solid color.
Ahhh I know!! 🙌🏻
Gonna have to agree
Gonna have to concur. Vote #3.
I was going to say Pelham Blue, but green sounds very classy and cool to me!
Matthew Scott Great Matts think alike.
Matthew is THE MAN! I’m so glad I found your channel. You inspired me to start doing videos and finding old guitars to fix up! I’ve uploaded a few videos if you guys don’t mind checking them out!
Hey, when you are stripping a guitar use Acetone not a heat gun or chemical strippers. Acetone wont soak into the wood and you don't use a scraper at all. Just lay some dry paper towels on the guitar, pour the acetone on to the paper towels and let them soak for about 20 minutes and then you can use the paper towels to start wiping the finish off. You may have to do this a couple of times but once the finish starts coming up it comes off really easy and it will take it right down to the bare wood!! Use a mask of course cause Acetone is not something you want to be breathing in. Acetone is cheaper than most chemical strippers as well. I use it and like I said I just start wiping the guitar with the paper towels I used to cover the guitar and wear rubber gloves to.
@@alabamahebrew it depends on the finish but yeah ive done a couple like that and its great ...do it out doors...for sure...
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Matthew Scott absolutely! I’m almost finished with a 1972 Thinline Telecaster that has an Eric Clapton ticket from 1988 stuck in the f-hole! Definitely reminds me of your stuff
@@edwhite7475 Yeah I used to do it the way Matt was doing it and to me the acetone works much better! The biggest positive to using acetone is all that paint stripper is not soaking into the wood of the guitar. Of course acetone doesn't work so well on a poly finish, so what I do there is a get out my orbital sander and I sand a few spots and remove just the poly and maybe a little of the actual paint, then I use the acetone because now it can get in under the poly top coat and work the paint loose. On one with stain that doesn't work so there I use the orbital and just remove the poly and then I use the acetone on the stain. You use a lot of paper towel but to me it's much safer on both the guitar and myself than using the other stuff and a heat gun works well too but I am apparently not smart enough to NOT burn myself when using one lol. Plus I do a lot of my work while I have the TV on or something and by just using the acetone I can still hear what's going on lol.
Frost Blue would be my choice
Sunburst or just a plain wood stain like the original pictures
Your going to go far young man. Your talented and interested. Great episode.
Michael Littlewood I agree but Where does the money come from, nice guy.
Sherwood Green with gold fittings looks amazing
Did Gibson have an equivalent of Sherwood Gr? I love the fender color
Thanks for another great video. You are so brave to put a heat gun and scraper to your firebird. I would have been sweating bullets. It came out great though!!
An Aztec Gold would be cool
Inverness Green would be perfect.
I don't know if you listen to these guys but your playing reminds me of Rick Derringer and Rory Gallagher.
im with Inverness Green or Heather. Both unique and cool!
Hi Matthew, I'm that guy from Argentinai who restored your old firebird III. I'd go with pelham blue on this one. Although my main vote would be to restore ir to a firebird I, rebuilding the central stripes and all...but I love cutsom projects anyway
The color I would love to see that guitar is a Frost Blue!! I love light colored guitars personally! Cool to see you stripping the body yourself!
I think golden mist would look amazing 👌, another great video 👍.
lacquer thinner & steel wool would probably clean up all the bits of paint left in a quick fashion (wear gloves & mask, no open flames, in a good ventilated, outside work area)
I vote Inverness Green. I have a Pelham blue bird that looks great, but I think Inverness Green would be cool and unique.
i vote for 1967 pontiac firebird verdoro green gm code wa3771
Pelham Blue. Please do a Pelham Blue. That would be sick
Looks kickass Matt. Keep at it...we are all eager to see that bad boy all finished up. I am in the process of finishing a '66 Fender Mustang. Nowhere near your bird, but fun nonetheless. Peace!!
Vintage mustangs are the bessssst
Paint it Bannana yellow for sure.....
Since this was already a re-fin, I don't think there's any great sin in refinishing it, again. My favorite finish for guitars (other than Strats) is natural wood, but that's probably not an option for this one (too much paint penetration in the grain). Paying tribute to the era would dictate one of the 10 custom colors Gibson offered in the 60's. Personally, for me, I don't like red guitars, AT ALL. But that's me. So Ember Red, and Crimson Red would be out. It was already White, so I would also eliminate Polaris White. That leaves 7 colors from the custom color list. I don't like greens almost as much as I don't like reds. So that's 2 more I would eliminate. Given all that, I would go with "Golden Mist Poly" with a nicely checked finish (kind of like what you did on the first round of the Mary Kay). Can't wait to see what you decide. Keep us posted.
The metal scraper is cringe worthy. Consider filing or grinding round corners on the edge to avoid digging into the wood. If you have to use a chemical stripper, I like the orange citrus based stripper. It really works and smells orangy (orangie??).
Orange-y for my vote! 😉
I knew it would be. The plastic scraper didnt work. So I did the flat surfaces with a very dull metal scraper and then did the rest by hand. Then I block sanded.
@@MatthewScottmusic Nice job stripping it. I agree that that neck pickup sounded sweet. It seems to me that this guitar wants to be red, but it seems to have a metallic vibe at the same time.
and make it body heavy
I personally think ember red is such a simple and beautiful colour for a Firebird.
Pelham Blue or Silver Mist
Inverness green or heather poly
GOOD GOD PLEASE DO INVERNESS GREEN
TV Yellow would look interesting
Had to edit my post, Kerry Green is my choice.
And I'd like to add, go with a heavy relic job with the Kerry Green.
I am currently working on an R4 build and I am re-finishing the top on Kerry Green.
HK Guitar why relic a new paint job, let it earn its scars!
you have to leave the wood natural but with a little clear lacquer to highlight the color of the wood ;)
Love that guitar and I think if it was mine I'd go with the trans-red like so many SGs have had. It would be CLASSIC. Though I don't think it was an option for that vintage, the guitar has already been modified, so the collectible value is not dependent on 'authentic' spec.
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You should work with Dale Roberts in Jacksonville, FL on this one. He is the master luthier who restored Allen Collins 1964 Firebird back in 2016, similar setup to this one. You know, of Lynyrd Skynyrd fame.
Yeah I would not plug the neck pick up route for just historical spec purposes. This guitar is unique. The original wood is gone, so what tone transfer improvement would you gain, really? You already have a stable, playable guitar with two very useable pickup positions, done and done.
One of the most fun and real vintage guitar channels, thanks.
Aged Antique Pelham Blue!
paint it a candy apple green
Glad all the plugs and blocks were done correctly. Solid instrument, great project. My understanding of what you're going for, if it were a car, is 80% original 20% restomod. That seems appropriate if you like that neck pickup.
I often compare these resto jobs to cars, too.
I mean, it is a Firebird isn't it?
I would paint it the burst color on the 1966 non-reverse firebird you had a couple of years ago. Edit: I like that color because the black in the burst was fading. Making the guitar look walnut colored.
A theory on the plugs in the back, Maybe they had it on a swivel ZZ Top style lol
That's what I was thinking too.
Lol. Thats hilarious and as crazy as that sounds it also could very well be a ringer. After all, they did everything else to it.
Don't let us decide for you, go with what you vibe with man.
Ooohh go inverness green!! if sticking to the custom colours(have seen some odd-ball ones). Personally I've always wanted to see a firebird in matt finish drab green like the Chris cornell sig!!
That Thumbnail was scary lmao
Interesting Question on color choice. Since Gibson loved '59 Oldsmobile colors I would go with Bronze Mist, Its not on the standard order form but was available as a custom order(John Entwistle's Firebird Bass was ordered in this color as an example). Since this is a custom guitar a custom, period correct, color is in order. I also think standard Oldsmobile gold engine paint would be pretty spectacular as well and I do believe that color was out by '64. Good luck. Peace.
Cool colors!
Definitely Inverness green!!!
Frost blue or tobacco sunburst.
Kerry green would be an amazing color for that guitar
These look amazing in Shoreline Gold, or whatever Gibson's equivalent to Shoreline Gold is. Cardinal Red is amazing too.
drlgraphics Dan Lawerance out in So Cal.. a WWll bomber graphic is always classic☮️ Matt... PS maybe ZZ Top used to spin it in one of their videos.
No one has really said what I think the most likely source of at least the football shaped plugs. I bet that in an effort to save on lumber costs, imperfections were plugged in the factory. Mahogany with imperfections was used in solid color guitars and mahogany with no imperfections was saved for clear/natural finishes. It would be exceedingly hard (impossible) to rout a football shape out of a finished guitar body and plug it. Most likely, those plugs other than the strap button repair have always been there. Like this comment if anyone reads it ... I'm sure it'll be buried. Great video though! Also, I'm in the Inverness Green camp. That would be sick.
I think silver or golden mist would be cool.
Silver is a rare colour for any Gibson . I like silver sky on a late 70s flying V . I also had an sg diablo in platnium which looked amazing. A silver bird would stand out I feel
Definitely hot pink
There is a Japanese luthier who uses a small iron (one you use to iron clothes) to heat the finish and then scrape it off, it's a very clean process. His channel is: Andy bass & guitar.
I did a complete rebuild of one of these III's (63 or 64, no bird on the pickguard) one owner since new, all original parts present. The downside? The upper body wing was missing, and the owner had stripped off the finish and varnished it clear (the pelham blue had turned very green and annoyed him). Lots of work, new upper wing, new frets, fresh pelham blue paintjob, reassembled with all the original parts, and the result was glorious, took the owner back to his teenage years when it was new.
I guestion your serial# I have a real 63 rfb starting 13 it has been authenticated I didnt know what it whas it was abeet up old gibson my dream guitar found out it was a rare colectors item and didnt like it as mutch not for sale sorry also not molested original factory condition yep unbelievabale right?
This may get a chuckle, but, I've done a few guitars for customers with Minwax wipe on poly clear satin. It looks amazing! I sometimes thin it out, and do 5-10 coats sanding in between! It would show off the grain on the back and the fact that the headstock is intact!
For the refin, I can highly recommend Gord Miller of GM Vintage. He’s in British Columbia but does superb finish work, and some of the most realistic Gibson finish aging (if that was a consideration). Great Firebird project, there.
I would love a natural finish. Man, you have prepped it beautifully. That Mahogany will sing and that neck deserves to be seen in all its glorious laminations. That neck-through body is a special feature of that guitar - why hide it? And then, if finished in natural, no one can ever assume it has a neck repair again. Paint it and be sure, someone will.
I think the heat gun works best for poly? Chemical stripper for lacquers
Pelham Blue is probably my favorite color from Gibson. That's what I would go with.
I’d go frost blue!! Killer content my man!!!!
Just want to say you got great editing skills love it thank you you've probably already painted it but burnt orange lowrider Style some gold metal flake pinstripe done by Gibbons thanks for the video is always love watching your Channel
You're braver than me. Heat can loosen glue joints. Look forward to seeing what you come up with. I know you'll do it justice!
I made a custom Firebird in a purpleburst color.
Sounds rad
It has to be Inverness Green!
BTW, a Firebird is on my must have list. A modern one though, my pay grade doesn't allow for anything vintage.
Sherwood green
I'd suggest BLUE AGAVE. It's a rare factory flip flop color....and it's awesome. It has a deep flip flop from Sage Green to Ice Blue (forget the exact Fender names of these colors) and it nails them spot on. I have MIJ Strat body with that color.....very very rare.
I think this color was around in the early 2000's for like 2 or 3 years on the MIM and maybe the USA's. I'm thinking around 2003-05?
If you're stuck deciding between green or blue.....have then them both!
Looks great. I would be tempted to do a Fender style thing. Just go through the year's General Motors paint colors. There were some good colors, very period metalics
I would suggest any color you like that was in that era!
GOLDEN MIST POLY !! Or Heather Poly ! (Burgundy mist ) Iverness is a little too much but...
I'll have to double check, But I know Gibson through the '60s offered A burgundy Metallic that sometimes pops up on the S.G. style Melody Makers and I do believe there is a few Firebird examples with that color. I did have a white Firebird.... so, I get it. even my own mother called it "The ugly white Gumby Guitar" Ha... But honestly it doesn't surprise me that this was a pretty solid guitar to start with. More than likely, The guy owned the guitar a long time, And probably was a Big Johnny Winter Fan, so He had it routed for two pickups and shot it white Just like one of Johnny's. I don't think this was really all that uncommon. I imagine when he did this, People weren't too concerned with or didn't think about just how rare these were. It's a different story now.
I'd put it back to sunburst myself. Failing that...TV Yellow. That would surprise people and be unique,
Watching you strip the paint makes me think this is the guitar nerd equivalent of the quarantine haircut.
My vote would be for Pelham blue or Candy Apple Red (yeah the second isn't really a Gibson colour). But since you're doing something special and unique, consider giving the back of the headstock a stinger.
Look up BCR Gregg for the refin. You won't be disappointed. Many folks on My Les Paul and The Les Paul Forum trust this guy only.
This project is going to turn out nice! How often do you get to custom refinish a vintage Firebird in any color you want? I feel for you on the whole quarantine thing. Up here in Maine they've pretty much canceled everything. No tourist house rentals, hotel stays, festivals Like our North Atlantic Blues Festival and the fall fairs, restaurants and bars are staying closed, state parks are closed, as are almost all lakes and beaches and of course all my gigs including a fun summer festival one of my bands was going to play with many friends of ours and a 4th of July gig. Uuuugh! I do think its all a good call and safety first of course. But it's gonna be bummer summer. Stay well my friend!
You should just leave it raw or oil finish it. Just my taste, though. That raw old wood looks awesome IMO. Interesting how it's a lighter color than I picture old mahogany. Maybe it oxidizes when exposed?
Nice man, very nice indeed.
I'm sure it'll look great whichever finish you decide to go with.
Thanks for sharing.
PEACE 🤠🎸
No color!!!! That mahogany is marvelous dark!! I understand that is not gonna be like "an original" but I would give her an danish oil finish! I always felt this guitar like "too painted"....
You should look up Chris Morrel from CM Custom Historics to do the make over, he is a Master , highly recommended, I have 3 guitars down by him. Check his Instagram page. Peace ✌️
I'm.sanding the finish off the neck of my 74 Gibson L6-S. There is a crack in the headstock though. Don't care lol it was very plasticy too the body is scuffed and beaten up, but it's character. Gonna keep the original hardware in the case, but get some knew tuners for it. It doesn't habe the original pickups sadly, so ill get some nickle covered ones for it to as well
Hi bro, nice job, personnaly, I would refinish it "transparent caramel", this kind of a "coffee with milk see through" that was seen on some Gibson explorers for instance, or why not a beautiful "aged cherry" well.. just my taste for this one. Cheers.
Natural with a stain of your choice. I personally would go with a 2 piece tail section.Tone pros.It only matters what you like. It's your baby.Nice job, glad the numbers came through !
Oxford grey. Dare to be different. check out some recent 58 RI LPs in that color.
Dude - you can do *whatever* you like to your guitars - after-all, they're *yours* - just one request - do the best job you (or your chosen artisan...) can do! As for colour, I'd go for the white ;-) Same as mine and Johnny's !
Hi Matthew, it's looking good mate! I would say go back to initial colour, one pick up and two knobs. Originality is everything! Also make sure serial number is visible on re-finish
Ok, so if you want to do a transparent sunburst you could faux woodgrain the area where the plugs and pickup mods are, then seal it with clear and start doing your burst. A good woodgrain painter could hide just the repair areas. That way you could do a tint on the back of the neck to show that unbroken headstock. It would be cool a solid color as well. Look at all your options and have fun!
I've got a cream colored Mustang that I have to fix and refinish... I'm thinking about airbrushing on a nice Leopard pattern and clear coat it. I saw a steering wheel done by some Hot Rodders in Japan done that way and it was killer! Not for everyone though. But I liked the Hell out of it!
Matthew - I'm a little late, but couldn't you have had it dipped? No muss, no fuss. I enjoy your channel much, BTW.
Heather mist "relic' over a vintage burst? Show the grain where you can and mask the repairs? That would leave the option of having a wood grain neck still too. Novo has been tempting me with their heavy relics as of late. Regardless, I'm sure your choice will be fine.
Maybe he wanted it to look like Johnny Winters on the front of Alive And Well !! I thought the guitar looked fine as it was ...
I prefer white the most, but you said "off the wall". Perhaps contact the guy on eBay who's been doing those "The Fool" SGs. He does a great job.