I like the engine sound. Thanks for sharing. Kindly keep us updated on longterm ownership. I'm inspired to upgrade my om601 too. I also own an om603 na.
Nice job like always. The OM 603 turbo engine has the oil supply on the passenger side towards the back of the block for the turbo. You might want to add a brace between the block and exhaust manifold to help support the weight of the bigger turbo. Didn’t you upgrade rods and injector pump when you did the rebuild? I wish I had learned to tig weld when I was doing a lot of welding and fabrication. I guess we always did big stuff. Can’t wait for the intake and intercooler set up. I have a 1992 and 1995 W140 with om 603 turbo. I want to get my injector pump done to have a little more power, but nobody around home wants to build one for me.
Hello Cullen, thanks for the tip about the oil supply, This one feels like it might be a little on the small side anyhow so it might be an update for a later time. About the manifold i have made the bends so that they almost pretroud directly from underneith the collector so on the turboside i dont think there are any big forces, on the exhaust flange on the other side it might be some forces yes. I have allready upgraded the rods (h-beam rods) and the pump (7,5mm dieselmeken). You can see all that in the OM603 rebuild last year. I have built a turbo conversion before without knowing how to tig and it was alot more work than this and the end result was just really bad and didnt even work at all in the end.The W140 is a mercedes that i think will get more and more expensive so hold on to that one.
were did you get that turbo oil feed line from? did you buy from a shop or is it somthing you had made up love your work mate keep it up cheers from australia
Hello Steven, i bought it on a swedish webshop page, i would guess there is webshops in Australia that sells brakelines that you can customize yourself? .. lenght and witch connector it should be in each end. In that case you just press in the measurements you need for the oil-feed event tought its sold as a braided brake line they work.
at 30:37 i have changed pants and look ! same thing there! =) the fact is that the zipper are broken on both pants in the video. Got 6-7 pairs and they are all the same make and design, just some different colours. And i like them that much that i use them even tought the zipper are broken. I am not the most fashionable guy around =)
Trevligt med egna byggen! Har en w108 280S -68a och en OM603 med manuell låda på pall som jag tänkte hinka i. Mycket sugen på att slänga på en snurra också!
@@Foffe2000 Jo man måste ha bra kontakter. Köpte 2st av en snubbe. Den 280s ja nämnde och en 280se -69a med rattautomat, taklucka osv. Men ska man ha en hyfsad idag får man vara beredd att spendera 6 siffrigt
you mean the OM603 turbo manifold? This is a N/A engine with the N/A manifold .. and even if i would get a original turbo manifold i would have a hard time fitting a HX40 under the hood. So i think this was the right way to go, and as a bonus i get all the piping in almost equal-lenght wich helps the spool-up time of the turbo.
Det är inte för att blockera rören, det är till och med ett borrat och gängat hål på en av portarna för att inte allt ska sprängas i luften när jag svetsar. Ändarna skruvas fast ordentligt i nått rejält stabilt för att flänsarna inte ska "slå" sig under svetsningen och vara raka. Utan dessa böjjer sig flänsarna likt bananer av kraften som blir då svetsarna svalnar.
at about 28:30 you see me mount the oil-drain system. The whole into the block where allready done on this block, but if it isnt you can drill it out yourself. Just drill at the same spot as where you see me mount mine.
@@heavy_low_n_slow at 23:40 you see me take out the oil-pressure line and magicly making a T-connection on it by shaking it. I think its easyer to use a plug on the back-side of the head. But i was unsure if that would effect the lubrication of the hydraulic lifters so i went with this solution instead.
I'm looking into doing such a conversion myself. I got the 603NA and i just cant find informations on the differences between the NA and the turbo version. Im just afraid of missing out on something and blowing it all up 😅 (Different compression, oil squirters on piston bottom, etc)
I do talk some of what i know being the differences between the NA and turbo versions in some of my older videos. The 26mm and 28mm rods on the rod small end is one, This block is originally a N/A but still had the squirters and extra oil cooler). But i do want to adress another thing i want to have said. Dont overcomplicate it! Alot of guys read up on a super 700hp build and they wanna build the exact same thing and go all in .. just to get burned out and discouraged, i do this mistakes some times to, but try to think and remind myself about this. Its better to build it more simple .. get to drive it and get more energy that way (and better self asteem) and then take the crappiest part of the build and make it better when you got the energy for it. Most of the parts in the video above you can just take of and put on another engine if this first one brakes.
@@nicotin1602 i have not been running it for a long time, but i have been beating it hard. engine is in another car so im not too sure about that. i belive it shouldint be any problem. if i remember correctly i think only driveshafs break on w124. then i think you can uppgrade to driveshafts from w210.
sort of, you can find the five and four cylinder version of this engine (OM601 , OM602) in the mercedes 190. Same engine components but a shorter block.
Hello. Thank you for the nice job that you do, this is very helpful and interesting videos. I'm looking for a video on how to clean, adjust and replace the non electronic idle control valve on an OM602 engine. Do you know if such a video exists? I have a fluctuating idle. I checked the vacuum lines and I performed a diesel purge, but no improvement. I suspect now the idle control valve (not electronic). Do you know how I can test it? If I can remove it without impacting the adjustment? Thank you Foffe. Armand
Hello Armand, i think i know wich one you are talking about. I got more fuel pumps but at the one i use in the car in the videos this idle controll have been deleted. i might use the remaining arm as a throttle position sensor later on to make a newer gearbox (722.XX) run on this older engine. So there are no plans for a video on this planed so far and i dont know if ever seen anyone do this fix, Maybe "mercedessource" can help you out? he got a youtube chanel on just old mercedes
Wich one? The exhaust flange and turbo-flange are bought on www.l-m-r.se , the fitment where not okey, i did have tro grind of the top-end of the flange facing the engine. The Turbo exhaust-side i did buy on speeding.se along with the turbo itself.
Ice Engingeworks från USA, Svindyrt i inköp men väldigt bra system. Borde gå att finna pirat nånstans. En annan nackdel är att flertalet av de medföljande böjjarna är av radie-mått (CRD centrum radius diameter) som jag inte lyckats finna som rörböjjar i stål sedan.
Om du undrar om de blåa böjarna så är det Ice Engineworks kit som är en amerikansk uppfinning och själv köpte jag detta kit från tyskland (inga återförsäljare i Sverige ännu)
@@Foffe2000 I'm interested because I have w124 300d 4matic 1987, so I'd like to do the same. Will that gearbox withstand hx35? Your opinion, if you don't mind?
Kanske byta dämparen till spännhjulet också när du satt ner arbete och pengar på resten av bygget? 😉 Men ser bra ut hittils! Gillar arbetsbänken du har bak på bilen 😄
Its still the old original for the OM603 in the W124 wagons, probebly not strong enough. But got a W210 parts car with the newer electronic 722 gearbox and an ofgear kit. But thats for another video (that will air probebly five years from now since i got tons of projects)
@@Foffe2000 jag har också orginal växellåda, 722.3 fast med en ny vaccum modulator som jag har vridit till fullt tryck (grön). dom är justerbara. den växlar lite hårt vanligt men när man trycker på så växlar den sjukt snabbt. laddar dock bara 2.2 bar med min hx40. vet inte hur mycket du tänkte kräma. den kanske också växlar lite hårt då växellådan har gått 50000 mil.
Hey mate i am planing to get Mercedes-Benz 124 300d with the same motor i believe 113 Hp stock. I want to make it turbocharged. Can u give me advise of what i will need to change and modify to go above 200 Hp and more. Thanks :)
hello BulgarianViking, this is more of a guesswork from my side than knowledge. If you got a healthy engine to begin with i dont see any problems on going past 200hp with all of the stuff orginal, francly i dont know any really weak points at all on these engines when it comes to horsepower, Heat on the other hand seems to be a problem on some parts of these engines and a overheated engine dont necesserarly have to do with lots of horsepower, it can be a overfuling injector pump and pulling a trailer or doing excessive burnouts. That can be prevented by dont go crazy on the fueling (black smoke is not equall to power on a diesel), get a ALDA that adjust the fueling of the engine based on boost (same stuff as regulates the boost on the turbos) and make sure that your engine runs cool enough , low termostate and a good working fan and radiator. If you pass the 350-400hp mark you can look into stronger piston-rods, but as i said .. make sure to have a good engine that been maintained with regular oilchanges.
Hello , i dont got it that natural in me to talk at the same time as i am working and keeping up the talking as i go, but i can give it a try in some future video
Stupid job, spend so much effort for what? You added a turbine, it increased the airflow into the combustion chamber, and what's next, but did you forget to increase the amount of fuel? The high-pressure fuel pump pump can only deliver the volume specified by the manufacturer.The high-pressure fuel pump in a turbocharged engine delivers much more fuel than a high-pressure fuel pump without a turbine. Also a question for pistons, they have a different shape of the top of the piston, the turbo one has a combustion swirl chamber, the non-turbo one does not have it, burning in such a chamber will lead to the death of the engin. You are not Mechanic, You are a schoolboy Learn the mat part.
Maybe your stupid? the engine allready got overhauled in a previous video and got a 7,5mm dieselmeken pump mounted, later on i even build a testbench to flow these pumps and rebuild them myself with 7,7mm elements. But you are just guessing around on whats been done or not and being a rude idiot.
You're a very clever, patient and skilled bloke Foffe, well done to you for making your own parts, massive amounts of respect for you 😊
I like the engine sound. Thanks for sharing. Kindly keep us updated on longterm ownership. I'm inspired to upgrade my om601 too. I also own an om603 na.
Nice job like always. The OM 603 turbo engine has the oil supply on the passenger side towards the back of the block for the turbo. You might want to add a brace between the block and exhaust manifold to help support the weight of the bigger turbo. Didn’t you upgrade rods and injector pump when you did the rebuild? I wish I had learned to tig weld when I was doing a lot of welding and fabrication. I guess we always did big stuff. Can’t wait for the intake and intercooler set up. I have a 1992 and 1995 W140 with om 603 turbo. I want to get my injector pump done to have a little more power, but nobody around home wants to build one for me.
Hello Cullen, thanks for the tip about the oil supply, This one feels like it might be a little on the small side anyhow so it might be an update for a later time. About the manifold i have made the bends so that they almost pretroud directly from underneith the collector so on the turboside i dont think there are any big forces, on the exhaust flange on the other side it might be some forces yes. I have allready upgraded the rods (h-beam rods) and the pump (7,5mm dieselmeken). You can see all that in the OM603 rebuild last year. I have built a turbo conversion before without knowing how to tig and it was alot more work than this and the end result was just really bad and didnt even work at all in the end.The W140 is a mercedes that i think will get more and more expensive so hold on to that one.
that's awesome header ,nice video.
thanks, it turned out good and still runs strong two years later.
jävlig bra jobbat!
Wonderful and fascinating project. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks, filming them is a good way for me to keep track and focus on each part of the build to
were did you get that turbo oil feed line from? did you buy from a shop or is it somthing you had made up love your work mate keep it up
cheers from australia
Hello Steven, i bought it on a swedish webshop page, i would guess there is webshops in Australia that sells brakelines that you can customize yourself? .. lenght and witch connector it should be in each end. In that case you just press in the measurements you need for the oil-feed event tought its sold as a braided brake line they work.
@@Foffe2000 thats a good idea i never would of thought of this. thanks for your help
Water to air after cooler should package much tighter
Was not expecting that soundtrack at all 😂
you came for the video and stayed for the great music ? 😁
Ou avez acheter le turbo quel est le modèle ?
Hee @Foffe Fix great vid. What is the name of the song you are you playing at 11:40?
Hello, i think that would be "Evening Glow by John Lowell Anderson" , i bought the rights for the song on premiumbeat.com
11:35 Your pants are not zippered😂 anyway, i love your custom make 👍🏻
at 30:37 i have changed pants and look ! same thing there! =) the fact is that the zipper are broken on both pants in the video. Got 6-7 pairs and they are all the same make and design, just some different colours. And i like them that much that i use them even tought the zipper are broken. I am not the most fashionable guy around =)
hi can you tell me what needs to be changed in om603 without turbo to add turbo? pistons? oil spray on the piston head? or something else?
brilliant 😁good job
Trevligt med egna byggen! Har en w108 280S -68a och en OM603 med manuell låda på pall som jag tänkte hinka i. Mycket sugen på att slänga på en snurra också!
W108 kan man bara drömma om just nu, priserna på dessa är mer än en annan klarar av tyvärr.
@@Foffe2000 Jo man måste ha bra kontakter. Köpte 2st av en snubbe. Den 280s ja nämnde och en 280se -69a med rattautomat, taklucka osv. Men ska man ha en hyfsad idag får man vara beredd att spendera 6 siffrigt
why did you take a ready-made manifold for the turbine from an ohm 602 engine?
I took a manifold from a om603? A aluminium one
GOOD Evening! What is the model of the turbo
Holset HX40
Nice 👍👍👍
Tog du oljan ifrån oljetrycks sensorn?
japp, banjokoppling mot oljetrycksgivaren. Slangen är modell "bromsslang" går att beställa enligt egna mått på speeding.se
@@Foffe2000 hjärtligt tack
har du också köpt dieselmeken 8mm diesel pump
Why you don’t use the stock om603a exhaust manifold?
you mean the OM603 turbo manifold? This is a N/A engine with the N/A manifold .. and even if i would get a original turbo manifold i would have a hard time fitting a HX40 under the hood. So i think this was the right way to go, and as a bonus i get all the piping in almost equal-lenght wich helps the spool-up time of the turbo.
fan vad kul projekt(: svetsa grenrör är nått jag vill lära mig.
Men varför satt du för ändarna när du svetsade? vad för syfte har det?(:
Det är inte för att blockera rören, det är till och med ett borrat och gängat hål på en av portarna för att inte allt ska sprängas i luften när jag svetsar. Ändarna skruvas fast ordentligt i nått rejält stabilt för att flänsarna inte ska "slå" sig under svetsningen och vara raka. Utan dessa böjjer sig flänsarna likt bananer av kraften som blir då svetsarna svalnar.
Great job foffe !!!! Can I know out of curiosity what work you do? Thanks
Ciao!!!
I work at hydro powerplants in sweden, thereby my main field is electricity and generators
👍thanks!!😉
What are you planning to do with the injection pump?
Hello , the injection pump have been swaped for a Dieselmeken 7,5mm with outside ALDA. You can see that in some of my older videos
Hi do you have pictures where you added the oil drain please
at about 28:30 you see me mount the oil-drain system. The whole into the block where allready done on this block, but if it isnt you can drill it out yourself. Just drill at the same spot as where you see me mount mine.
Thanks. Where did you take oil feed from
@@heavy_low_n_slow at 23:40 you see me take out the oil-pressure line and magicly making a T-connection on it by shaking it. I think its easyer to use a plug on the back-side of the head. But i was unsure if that would effect the lubrication of the hydraulic lifters so i went with this solution instead.
@@Foffe2000 thank you very much I am hopefully starting my om602 turbo soon
I'm looking into doing such a conversion myself. I got the 603NA and i just cant find informations on the differences between the NA and the turbo version. Im just afraid of missing out on something and blowing it all up 😅
(Different compression, oil squirters on piston bottom, etc)
I do talk some of what i know being the differences between the NA and turbo versions in some of my older videos. The 26mm and 28mm rods on the rod small end is one, This block is originally a N/A but still had the squirters and extra oil cooler). But i do want to adress another thing i want to have said. Dont overcomplicate it! Alot of guys read up on a super 700hp build and they wanna build the exact same thing and go all in .. just to get burned out and discouraged, i do this mistakes some times to, but try to think and remind myself about this. Its better to build it more simple .. get to drive it and get more energy that way (and better self asteem) and then take the crappiest part of the build and make it better when you got the energy for it. Most of the parts in the video above you can just take of and put on another engine if this first one brakes.
Turbo have thicker rods. 300 hp is ok in NA 603 says Dieselmeken. i have 603.912 with hx40 at 2.2 bars of boost
@@MyBlablablablablabl i got the 912 too, for how long have you been running it? Stock diff?
@@nicotin1602 i have not been running it for a long time, but i have been beating it hard. engine is in another car so im not too sure about that. i belive it shouldint be any problem. if i remember correctly i think only driveshafs break on w124. then i think you can uppgrade to driveshafts from w210.
@@nicotin1602 so you had 0m 603.912 wich is original non turbo, but you put a turbo on it?
Is this the same engine found in the 190d?
sort of, you can find the five and four cylinder version of this engine (OM601 , OM602) in the mercedes 190. Same engine components but a shorter block.
Hello. Thank you for the nice job that you do, this is very helpful and interesting videos.
I'm looking for a video on how to clean, adjust and replace the non electronic idle control valve on an OM602 engine.
Do you know if such a video exists?
I have a fluctuating idle. I checked the vacuum lines and I performed a diesel purge, but no improvement.
I suspect now the idle control valve (not electronic).
Do you know how I can test it?
If I can remove it without impacting the adjustment?
Thank you Foffe.
Armand
Hello Armand, i think i know wich one you are talking about. I got more fuel pumps but at the one i use in the car in the videos this idle controll have been deleted. i might use the remaining arm as a throttle position sensor later on to make a newer gearbox (722.XX) run on this older engine. So there are no plans for a video on this planed so far and i dont know if ever seen anyone do this fix, Maybe "mercedessource" can help you out? he got a youtube chanel on just old mercedes
nice work
Thanks Khaled
@@Foffe2000 wellcome
I want add turbo on my 617
Where did you get this flange from?
Wich one? The exhaust flange and turbo-flange are bought on www.l-m-r.se , the fitment where not okey, i did have tro grind of the top-end of the flange facing the engine. The Turbo exhaust-side i did buy on speeding.se along with the turbo itself.
Vars är grenrörsbyggsatsen i plast ifrån? :)
Ice Engingeworks från USA, Svindyrt i inköp men väldigt bra system. Borde gå att finna pirat nånstans. En annan nackdel är att flertalet av de medföljande böjjarna är av radie-mått (CRD centrum radius diameter) som jag inte lyckats finna som rörböjjar i stål sedan.
var har du köpt piping kit ?
Om du undrar om de blåa böjarna så är det Ice Engineworks kit som är en amerikansk uppfinning och själv köpte jag detta kit från tyskland (inga återförsäljare i Sverige ännu)
Wonderful
is 603 motor mechanical pump
yes, it is bught allready tuned up. If you look into the video list of my channel there is videos of me dissasembling these pumps
Snyggt byggt, fräsig kärra 😁
Som Mulle Meck sku ha sagt ja
vad är det för turbo
Hej pumpen är av modell Holset HX40 och har mellanstorleken av avgashus 16cm
snyggt!
turbo original holset or china?
as far as i know original? bought at a swedish webshop.
@@Foffe2000 How much did it cost? Chinese are a lot cheaper, but I'm not expert enough to know how to distinguish them, maybe if I had both
@@STODVADESETCETIRI i think a HX40 with internal wastegate was about 650 euros
@@Foffe2000Thank you guys for your answers, I'm interested because I have w124 300d 4matic 1987.
@@Foffe2000 I'm interested because I have w124 300d 4matic 1987, so I'd like to do the same. Will that gearbox withstand hx35? Your opinion, if you don't mind?
Kanske byta dämparen till spännhjulet också när du satt ner arbete och pengar på resten av bygget? 😉
Men ser bra ut hittils! Gillar arbetsbänken du har bak på bilen 😄
Jag inbillar mig att jag bytte den inklusive länkaget för inte så länge sen? Inte helt säker, kan sitta på gamla motorn också
very cool.
What gearbox do you use Foffe ?
Its still the old original for the OM603 in the W124 wagons, probebly not strong enough. But got a W210 parts car with the newer electronic 722 gearbox and an ofgear kit. But thats for another video (that will air probebly five years from now since i got tons of projects)
@@Foffe2000 jag har också orginal växellåda, 722.3 fast med en ny vaccum modulator som jag har vridit till fullt tryck (grön). dom är justerbara. den växlar lite hårt vanligt men när man trycker på så växlar den sjukt snabbt. laddar dock bara 2.2 bar med min hx40. vet inte hur mycket du tänkte kräma. den kanske också växlar lite hårt då växellådan har gått 50000 mil.
Hey mate i am planing to get Mercedes-Benz 124 300d with the same motor i believe 113 Hp stock. I want to make it turbocharged. Can u give me advise of what i will need to change and modify to go above 200 Hp and more. Thanks :)
hello BulgarianViking, this is more of a guesswork from my side than knowledge. If you got a healthy engine to begin with i dont see any problems on going past 200hp with all of the stuff orginal, francly i dont know any really weak points at all on these engines when it comes to horsepower, Heat on the other hand seems to be a problem on some parts of these engines and a overheated engine dont necesserarly have to do with lots of horsepower, it can be a overfuling injector pump and pulling a trailer or doing excessive burnouts.
That can be prevented by dont go crazy on the fueling (black smoke is not equall to power on a diesel), get a ALDA that adjust the fueling of the engine based on boost (same stuff as regulates the boost on the turbos) and make sure that your engine runs cool enough , low termostate and a good working fan and radiator.
If you pass the 350-400hp mark you can look into stronger piston-rods, but as i said .. make sure to have a good engine that been maintained with regular oilchanges.
You are annoying with music, I wish you stop the music and explain instead and explain in detail and types of pieces
Hello , i dont got it that natural in me to talk at the same time as i am working and keeping up the talking as i go, but i can give it a try in some future video
Stupid job, spend so much effort for what? You added a turbine, it increased the airflow into the combustion chamber, and what's next, but did you forget to increase the amount of fuel? The high-pressure fuel pump pump can only deliver the volume specified by the manufacturer.The high-pressure fuel pump in a turbocharged engine delivers much more fuel than a high-pressure fuel pump without a turbine. Also a question for pistons, they have a different shape of the top of the piston, the turbo one has a combustion swirl chamber, the non-turbo one does not have it, burning in such a chamber will lead to the death of the engin. You are not Mechanic, You are a schoolboy Learn the mat part.
Maybe your stupid? the engine allready got overhauled in a previous video and got a 7,5mm dieselmeken pump mounted, later on i even build a testbench to flow these pumps and rebuild them myself with 7,7mm elements. But you are just guessing around on whats been done or not and being a rude idiot.