Holy shit Smitty! Thought I was the only one! Subscribed cause of this video! How realistic! Don't usually see this type of reality on UA-cam! Thanks! Mike in Massachusetts!
I just been there had a super xl would fludder around at idle and die muffler wet tiliston carb rebuilt look perfect went thru twice so I put another carb off of my xl12 put on it run the same so I went thru the ignition system I cleaned the points put another coil plate and coil first started it was screaming lol adjusted carb runs great now
Have them some saw changed the connector boot and rebuilt the carbcurator 12 times turn out the needle jet can only move up and down like 5000th of and inch when you said you could seed gas coming out the carbon on top i had the same flooding problem readjusted the jet runs like new
I don’t know if it has been mentioned before I’m only at the point in the video where u remove the spark plug but that is the wrong plug man champion cj8 or cj6 is ur plug they have a tapered hole in the cylinder
That is probably the plug the previous owner had in it. It has been so long since I worked on that one I can't remember but I do believe I fixed that little issue.
When I get in a pinch trying to make a saw work properly, I go on Leons chainsaw parts and repair! He is an old guru with Homelite chainsaws! And I'm not so proud that I won't tell people that. I own at least 60saws, At least half of them are vintage Homelites! I have learned so much from watching his videos while I'm assembling a saw, And his information is priceless! I would have to guess that your inlet diaphragm is not closing the flaps fast enough! Due to the Benzene in pump fuel that causes soft rubber to become as crispy as a Ritz cracker when fuel is left in the carburetor for any length of time 😋
As a vintage saw collector , I've been through all that and more. I've overlooked simple problems way more than ill admit. I got a 340 Homelite I missed a split in half crankseal for a month, that's just one of many . 15 vintage Stihl, Sachs ,Homelite and Husky's keep me busy tinkering. Love your honesty, keep on posting.
I got 4 homelites running decent. I have a homelite 360 thats giving problem after problem. But i think it will be worth it in the end. Gonna be my fav wood cutting saw once it decides to run.
Just checked out your video with your frustration on that 360 a lot of times fresh eyes or fresh Minds on the situation can help out they're definitely looks like you have a fuel issue and sometimes you can be a combination of both I would start with your carb pull it off you can take out your metering diaphragm completely I run a simple test to see if your Inlet needle is shutting all the way. you are going to need to pressure test the carb by running approximately 8 lb to 10 lb of pressure through the fuel Inlet Barb if it holds pressure and does not leak out you're needle is seating properly Next I would move on to metering lever spring and meteor lever While carb is under pressure you should be able to perform a quick simple test on your metering lever by running something flat across the top of carburetor and sliding it across the metering lever if if the metering lever hits it will let the air pressure out. proper setting of metering lever is flush with top of carburetor When set properly when you slide something flat over metering lever it should still hold pressure and not leak out. If you have any questions let me know
If the saw keeps flooding itself out and it ran before but I noticed it was a bit hard to start here’s whT to do. Obviously the engine is pullin vacuum cause the carb is drinkin it but it’s gettin to much check the internals of the engine for damage or wear like rings gaskets etc then if all of that is good chek the compression if that’s good then move toward the carb clean it with an ultrasonic cleaner that’s chem dip is too harsh on two stroke carbs. Then pressure test the carb if it holds at 7 psi your ok. Then. Check the spark physically at the plug then clean the tank out with simply green degreaser I got a 360 and it was floodin bad turns out it was the crank seals cause it couldn’t hold crankcase pressure so it jus flooded itself out hope this helps god bless
@@imawsome7783 I actually found another problem that would explain all my headaches this evening. The inlet needle was not seating for certain. The cause of that problem was what I did not expect.
I've had to walk away from saws more than once, if I don't they end up flying through the woods. I had a saw do the similar thing and it was the side of the carb that has the fuel pump. Keep at it and good luck, you'll get it. Keep up the hard work 👍👍💪😁🇺🇸
Awesome video, sir. Take the recoil starter off, put a 1/2 inch socket on the drive and spin the starter with a cordless drill. Better than pulling!!! By the way, my 1978 Homelite did the same thing. Never did make it a reliable saw.
I have had the same frustrations on my 360s before. It can be a pain in the butt. If it's flooding I would pressure test the carb. If you don't have a pressure tester a good one is the mighty vac 8500. Set your metering arm while the carb is under pressure and make sure it holds. If it does then put your gasket and diagram in and tighten the cover down. If you lose pressure then the arm is still too high. This is the best way to do it on these darn hdc carbs. Also look at your diphram the metal part that hits the arm. If it's an aftermarket kit sometimes they make that nub too thick and it will hold the arm down all the time. If you can get the carb assembled and it holds pressure that should fix your flooding issue. I think someone else said it should hold around 7 psi after 2 min at min. If you can get her to stay around 10-15 psi then your golden. The most frustrating think about a 360 that doesn't start is your arm hurts so bad at the end of the day cause they are a pain to pull over 😁. You will get this thing going. Let me know.
How about a plugged metering bypass under the Welch plug. Regarding the seats. Mustie1, you tube, pretty good with carbs would use those qtips on the stick, break it off and chuck it in his drill and go into the seats to clean them up sometimes.normal tips work, but not as sturdy as the wood shat ones. Hopefully you figured it out, damn frustrating sometimes.
homelite DESIGNED THEM TO OVERHEAT. cylinder fins blocked on two sides by ridiculous exhaust with poor flow CAUSES OVERHEATING and BLOCKS COOLING. ignition BLOCKS 2 OTHER SIDES and fails anyway. oil pump RUBBISH and wears guide bars and chains STRAINING ENGINE to OVERHEAT. rubbish recoil, CLUTCH LININGS UNSTICK and jam in drum
The muffler system on them 360s is terrible. Doing what I did to mine it fires rate up. Notice if the piston and cylinder may look new or unused and that would be from lack of running all because the exhaust system is absolutely terrible. Open it up and you should have a different out come.
Holy shit Smitty! Thought I was the only one! Subscribed cause of this video! How realistic! Don't usually see this type of reality on UA-cam! Thanks! Mike in Massachusetts!
Thanks buddy!
I just been there had a super xl would fludder around at idle and die muffler wet tiliston carb rebuilt look perfect went thru twice so I put another carb off of my xl12 put on it run the same so I went thru the ignition system I cleaned the points put another coil plate and coil first started it was screaming lol adjusted carb runs great now
Pressure test the carb.
I've ran into a similar issue on a xl12 before and one of the plugs inside the carburetor had come loose
Sometimes it sucks!
Smitty would you like some extra 360 parts I'd rather send them to you then junk them good cylinder good coils and stuff flywheels ect
I would love to have some parts. I keep having to buy complete saws just to use for parts.
@@Smittyschainsaws how do I get your info so I can ship you the parts man anything to help out
Have them some saw changed the connector boot and rebuilt the carbcurator 12 times turn out the needle jet can only move up and down like 5000th of and inch when you said you could seed gas coming out the carbon on top i had the same flooding problem readjusted the jet runs like new
Hope this helps
Thanks buddy!
I don’t know if it has been mentioned before I’m only at the point in the video where u remove the spark plug but that is the wrong plug man champion cj8 or cj6 is ur plug they have a tapered hole in the cylinder
That is probably the plug the previous owner had in it. It has been so long since I worked on that one I can't remember but I do believe I fixed that little issue.
@@Smittyschainsaws yeah I went through the videos didn’t see one after the last carby gum up vid🤙
Its just been sitting on the shelf soaking the tank in cleaner. It has a lot of crud in it.
When I get in a pinch trying to make a saw work properly, I go on Leons chainsaw parts and repair! He is an old guru with Homelite chainsaws! And I'm not so proud that I won't tell people that. I own at least 60saws, At least half of them are vintage Homelites! I have learned so much from watching his videos while I'm assembling a saw, And his information is priceless! I would have to guess that your inlet diaphragm is not closing the flaps fast enough! Due to the Benzene in pump fuel that causes soft rubber to become as crispy as a Ritz cracker when fuel is left in the carburetor for any length of time 😋
Leon is defiantly the go to guy!!
As a vintage saw collector , I've been through all that and more. I've overlooked simple problems way more than ill admit. I got a 340 Homelite I missed a split in half crankseal for a month, that's just one of many . 15 vintage Stihl, Sachs ,Homelite and Husky's keep me busy tinkering. Love your honesty, keep on posting.
Thanks!!
Hey man seat the L jet and try one full turn out? Just a thought man
I use one full turn as my starting point most of the time. It just depends on what I feel like.
@@Smittyschainsaws ok cool man I’m going to try that wire hack on mine to check the spark🤙
I got 4 homelites running decent. I have a homelite 360 thats giving problem after problem. But i think it will be worth it in the end. Gonna be my fav wood cutting saw once it decides to run.
The 360 has a lot of hidden potential!!
Just checked out your video with your frustration on that 360 a lot of times fresh eyes or fresh Minds on the situation can help out they're definitely looks like you have a fuel issue and sometimes you can be a combination of both I would start with your carb pull it off you can take out your metering diaphragm completely I run a simple test to see if your Inlet needle is shutting all the way. you are going to need to pressure test the carb by running approximately 8 lb to 10 lb of pressure through the fuel Inlet Barb if it holds pressure and does not leak out you're needle is seating properly
Next I would move on to metering lever spring and meteor lever
While carb is under pressure you should be able to perform a quick simple test on your metering lever by running something flat across the top of carburetor and sliding it across the metering lever if if the metering lever hits it will let the air pressure out. proper setting of metering lever is flush with top of carburetor
When set properly when you slide something flat over metering lever it should still hold pressure and not leak out.
If you have any questions let me know
Thanks!! I think I might have figured it out this evening. The needle wasn't seating correctly for certain but I found another problem.
If the saw keeps flooding itself out and it ran before but I noticed it was a bit hard to start here’s whT to do. Obviously the engine is pullin vacuum cause the carb is drinkin it but it’s gettin to much check the internals of the engine for damage or wear like rings gaskets etc then if all of that is good chek the compression if that’s good then move toward the carb clean it with an ultrasonic cleaner that’s chem dip is too harsh on two stroke carbs. Then pressure test the carb if it holds at 7 psi your ok. Then. Check the spark physically at the plug then clean the tank out with simply green degreaser I got a 360 and it was floodin bad turns out it was the crank seals cause it couldn’t hold crankcase pressure so it jus flooded itself out hope this helps god bless
Seals have already been replaced prior to this. Compression is 150 ish. I think I may have figured it out this evening. Time will tell!!
Pressure test the carb and chek the pop off pressure
@@imawsome7783 I actually found another problem that would explain all my headaches this evening. The inlet needle was not seating for certain. The cause of that problem was what I did not expect.
Ahh ha see gotta check those Small things did u change the metering lever at all ?
@@imawsome7783 The metering lever was the first thing I checked. I wish I could post a picture. So far nobody has guessed it yet.
Lol the last attempt after the last attempt. I feel your pain, I did this the other day.
I just couldn't give up!!
I've had to walk away from saws more than once, if I don't they end up flying through the woods. I had a saw do the similar thing and it was the side of the carb that has the fuel pump. Keep at it and good luck, you'll get it. Keep up the hard work 👍👍💪😁🇺🇸
I will figure it out one of these days!!!
Awesome video, sir. Take the recoil starter off, put a 1/2 inch socket on the drive and spin the starter with a cordless drill. Better than pulling!!! By the way, my 1978 Homelite did the same thing. Never did make it a reliable saw.
Sometimes I do things the hard way!!
I have had the same frustrations on my 360s before. It can be a pain in the butt. If it's flooding I would pressure test the carb. If you don't have a pressure tester a good one is the mighty vac 8500. Set your metering arm while the carb is under pressure and make sure it holds. If it does then put your gasket and diagram in and tighten the cover down. If you lose pressure then the arm is still too high. This is the best way to do it on these darn hdc carbs. Also look at your diphram the metal part that hits the arm. If it's an aftermarket kit sometimes they make that nub too thick and it will hold the arm down all the time. If you can get the carb assembled and it holds pressure that should fix your flooding issue. I think someone else said it should hold around 7 psi after 2 min at min. If you can get her to stay around 10-15 psi then your golden. The most frustrating think about a 360 that doesn't start is your arm hurts so bad at the end of the day cause they are a pain to pull over 😁. You will get this thing going. Let me know.
I think I may have figured it out tonight. Time will tell!!
How about a plugged metering bypass under the Welch plug. Regarding the seats. Mustie1, you tube, pretty good with carbs would use those qtips on the stick, break it off and chuck it in his drill and go into the seats to clean them up sometimes.normal tips work, but not as sturdy as the wood shat ones.
Hopefully you figured it out, damn frustrating sometimes.
That’s a good idea! I have never seen that done before!!
Could tell how you rigged that up to show if it got fire
It wasn’t difficult. I just ran two jumper wires.
@@Smittyschainsaws Thanks
Mabye the little spring a top of spark plug inside coil. Has a tiny little hole it fits in. Might be dirty not connecting at all. Happened to me.
That could be possible!!
I meant the transformer by the way. Not used to this saw.
@@stupidstupider4892 I do the same thing all the time!!
I have a 360 I need to send to you
I don’t typically do repair work. Just because I don’t have much free time. You would be better off at leonschainsawpartsandrepair.com
I dont know if the 360 is fxed or not. but how about timing. (Broken wedge)
I have an additional video on the 360. You will probably enjoy it. ua-cam.com/video/53LbhT2fA7I/v-deo.html
@@Smittyschainsaws
Well done buddy.. 👍👍
When u get them back upp and rundning It's The best reward. 👍
Look like you had a few wobbly pops during this pain in the ass.. I would too.. Lol
i have the same saw will not RUN
I accept donations! Lol!
@@Smittyschainsaws my dads saw have to keep it ill keep playin with it glad u got that one running
homelite DESIGNED THEM TO OVERHEAT. cylinder fins blocked on two sides by ridiculous exhaust with poor flow CAUSES OVERHEATING and BLOCKS COOLING. ignition BLOCKS 2 OTHER SIDES and fails anyway. oil pump RUBBISH and wears guide bars and chains STRAINING ENGINE to OVERHEAT. rubbish recoil, CLUTCH LININGS UNSTICK and jam in drum
Thanks
That's have the same saw !!! Stupid auto correct
Hope this helps
Love those saws!
The muffler system on them 360s is terrible. Doing what I did to mine it fires rate up. Notice if the piston and cylinder may look new or unused and that would be from lack of running all because the exhaust system is absolutely terrible. Open it up and you should have a different out come.