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To be fair, the "photographer" did more than take pictures. His main job was to assist in locating and securing any intelligence.
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we looked high and we looked low, sir. No sign of intelligence in this sub!
If only that was a real quote from one of them lmao. On a more serious note the photographer wasn’t necessarily just to locate any valuable intel his main job was to photograph anything and everything of importance so that should it prove impossible to keep the sub from sinking they wouldn’t lose all of the intel that was inside.
Most likely because of how he said the classified documents were on water soluble paper. Photographer was most likely there to take photos of what he could on the papers incase they touched water and were destroyed
""It's not a war crime if it's the first time"
It was your Royal Navy that first captured a UBoat early in the war with a working enigma machine and cyphers, but I think the German Navy somehow figured out the device was recovered, and changed their codes a short time after the capture. I think though by then your codebreakers at Bletchley Park had already cracked the code. The U505's intact enigma machine and cyphers were important because the German Navy believed it had sunk(the U505 was considered a cursed ship by the Navy), and continued using tjose codes and cyphers until the end of the war.(American and British Naval Intellegence used that information to the fullest).
Yes, changed codes, and added a rotor or two (similar to increasing bit length of modern encryption- each additional rotor made decoding significantly more difficult).
Interesting that they considered it to be cursed and then the US just drags it through the Bermuda Triangle. . . .I guess at that point the curses cancel out or something? Metric and Imperial didn't mix and so neither applied?
Not quite… they were unable to capture a fully intact machine, they - at a great loss of life, by the way - managed to retrieve the codebook at the time, which they used alongside the aid of a massive analog computer, to decode the messages until the Germans got suspicious, shuffled the code and added an extra two parts to the code for insurance.
@@sultanofsauce9816 Yep. The version you described is what I've always been taught.
The British captured like four or five and the Americans captured one, which is this one described in this video.
Point of fact. This U-boat was not the one that that enabled Bletchley Park to crack the enigma code that happened about 2 1/2 years before this.
What they actually found was an up-to-date, enigma machine, and code books that would enable them to further decipher more information and by this point in the war, they were already reading the U-boat codes.
You beat me to the explanation! I saw yours and didn't finish mine, because yours was so complete.
In other words it was more or less just confirming what information they already had.
Yes, capture of codebooks from U110 by a boarding party from HMS Bulldog in 1941. They got the Enigma as well, but Bletchley Park had several functional Enigmas even prior to that.
“American Dismantles Pirates” is also a really great one!
It also, some what amazingly, also explains how to get the US involved in a conflict. Even more bizarre is that history shows that this assumption is not wrong.
I took the tour of that sub when I was a kid. They show you a movie first, then you get to walk through it while they explain everything. The Museum of Science and Industry is awesome, and anybody visiting Chicago should definetely check it out. I remember they had a working coal mine tour, video phones (amazing to see back in the 60's), and all kinds of other cool and interesting stuff. The Shedd Aquarium is nearby, and worth a visit too.
I know the Shedds, or at least, some members of their family. I grew up, staying at their house as a kid on many of my parent's business trips, so they're basically like family to me. In fact, I didn't even know their family had built an aquarium in Chicago until I was thirteen or fourteen years old. Now that I'm much older, I find it to be a pretty neat piece of history.
Went on that sub tour as a kid too, it's amazing. Glad we didn't nuke it. lol
As a proud American former Marine, I have to give credit where it's due, and the truth is your Royal Navy captured more enigma machines than we did. Of course you also had the brilliant Alan Turing (The Imitation Game with Benedict Cumberbatch). Turing is universally recognized as the father or grandfather of computer science. That guy was truly brilliant. One of the places I want to visit someday when I make it to the UK is Bletchley Park where all of this happened. Cheers from America my friends.
Very true, well said! 👍
True we had already broken the enigma code however the U boats were equipped with the naval version of the machine which had one more rotor than the ones we already had. This working example with all it's up to date code books was an intelligence prize which sped up and improved allied efforts significantly.
U-505 used to reside outside the museum. It was restored and moved indoors in 2004.
When the guy says Chicago is the most inland of major cities - it IS connected to the ocean via the Great Lakes and St Lawrence Seaway. It's not like it's landlocked.
That is exactly how the sub got to Chicago. The over-land travel was just from the port to the museum.
People forget that one of the U.S. Navy's biggest training bases is just north of Chicago.
Also, that U-boat is still there. I don't know if you can, but you used to be able to walk through the thing.
@@BrotherPraetusYou still can. I took the tour myself earlier this year. It’s a really cool exhibit!
Yeah - that would be someplace like OKC or Kansas City. But then it'd probably get transported to OZ with a tornado.
The Enigma code was first broken by the Poles, under the leadership of mathematician Marian Rejewski, in the early 1930s. In 1939, with the growing likelihood of a German invasion, the Poles turned their information over to the British, who set up a secret code-breaking group known as Ultra, under mathematician Alan M. Turing. So I'm sorry to say this, but Brits didn't "crack" the enigma code, you improved the way to crack it with early computing but the actual code was broken and the method to decode was first invented by 3 Polish mathematics Marian Rejewski, Henryk Zygalski and Jerzy Rozycki.
I've actually been in that sub in Chicago several times. First time as a kid, thought it was neat, but the last couple of times as an adult and knowing the story behind it brought out the thought of neat into "this is awesome".
I did as well. Going to the Museum of Science and Technology was a yearly event that we looked forward to. It was awesome!
I’ve been there as well. You cannot grasp how cramped those old school diesel subs were until you’re actually in one. And for someone like myself that has a touch of claustrophobia, it’s a bit unsettling. Still, unsettling as it was, it was also an awesome piece of history at the same time.
Love this guy. Like you said he's such a good storyteller.
I learned about this incredible heist of that U-Boat/Submarine, when I went down a WWII rabbit hole for the last four months of the last year, where I watched everything I could find about the war because I wanted to learn more about the said war, and this heist popped up in some video-or other. Awesome thing that they did.
You need to watch to the end. He always puts bits at the end!!
You Brits had Alan Turing. Who worked for British Military Intelligence. He was the man who broke the German Enigma codes. Well before anyone had captured an actual Enigma machine. There was a British military intelligence unit down in North Africa. That took Alan Turing's work one set forward. This British military intelligence unit. Would go out, in between the British and German lines, and collect signals intelligence. Then every once and awhile. They would raid a German unit. Doing the exact same job. The problem was, once the Germans. Figured out that there Enigma codes were compromised. The Germans would change the codes, the Enigma machine, or both.
Now as a highschool kid. I went through the U-505 in Chicago.
One of the big deals about capturing that submarine intact. Was all of the intelligence we collected from that submarine. Not only did we get an up to date Enigma machine, the codes, but also the maps that correspond with those codes.
Then once the U-505 was fixed. The U.S. Navy learned how the U-505 worked.
Put a specially trained crew onboard the U-505. Where the U.S. Navy learned everything they could about a Type 9 German U boat.
Then the U.S. Navy used U-505 in training to teach other U.S. Navy ships how to deal with Type 9 German U boats.
You have a very strange halting. way. of speaking.
@@indowneastmaine even if English is my first language. My education is a bit lacking due to being poor.
It was damaged and sinking. They helped it along by pulling some drains. Years latter the German Captain visited the sub at the museum in Chicago. I've been on it when I was 10 years old.
19:55 Mark! 2.4K Thumbs Up! 👍 You're welcome, and thanks! 😊
Notes: I first learned about its museum ship status when David Letterman went to Chicago!
Hey! He ignored the Great Lakes! 😮 Chicago, Illinois, is a port city for Lake Michigan! 😎
My grandfather was on the Destroyer Escort that assisted in dropping depth charges on the U-505. Heard this story countless times since I was a kid. My family has lots of pictures that different crew members took of it.
We Americans are very good at ensuring ships don't sink. Seriously, we tried using a nuke once to sink a decommissioned ship we built. It didn't sink. Eventually we did get it to sink.
Or when one got mined in the '80s by Iran.
Lmao I love how you guys all talk at the same time, but somehow don't interrupt each other.
David Gallery wrote a couple of books about his naval escapades. They are hilarious.
You should always watch The Fat Electrician's videos all the way to the end, he often has funny bits at the end of his videos.
As an American, I believe Alan Turing's name should be as ubiquitous as Winston Churchill because of his contribution to winning WW2. There should be a granite monument of him in Washington DC and in London. I'm so thankful to Britain is our closest ally. I would vote for you guys to be the 51st state in the union, but with even more autonomy than a regular state.. How effing cool would take be? You're only 1,000 more miles away than Hawaii.
Yeah, but if Britain became a state before Puerto Rico, how big of an insult would that be?
I went on a tour through this sub on or about 1972. The Museum of Science and Industry is an amazing place. I saw the sub, an underground mine, and other huge exhibits. As we were walking through a huge room full of planes and such, my dad pointed at a large rotary piston engine hanging from the ceiling and told us that his job in the Navy was working on them. I spent about an hour in the sub. The crew quarters were more than cramped. At the time, it actually looked fairly new but it was 30 years old. Very well preserved.
I love how it was coincidentally U-boat 505 which looks like S O S. We was just...saving the ship... >_>
I had the opportunity to meet and interview several of the U-505 crew as well as US sailors from the Task Force. The video is accurate for the most part. The crew, 56 of 57 of them were kept incomunicado in Camp Ruston for awhile and eventually were distributed to several other camps until they were sent back to Germany in 1946. Seaman Evold may have been the 57th crew member and in fact may be the one who did help the American save the ship, but I never found evidence of him being alive after the capture. There is written documents that one seaman had died during the short battle. Besides the Enigma and codes there were several new acoustic torpedoes found. I was fortunate to been gifted a copy of the German captains log as well a a package of cigarettes from the 505. They now are in a university archives for historical research. Interestingly enough the captain's log had been completed for the June 4th as "all quiet" , suggesting that the log had been completed prior to the capture by Captain Lange. I have visited the U-505 in Chicago. Knowing the stories that I was told by the crew I smiled as I walked through her. Kknowing the ordeal and bravery of both sides I appreciated the way the museum presented the ship and all the stories that make this a wonderful stop while visiting CHicago.
Turing already existed, NVidia used it as a name for their GPU Chip in their 20 series Graphics Cards. IE 2080, 2070 and 2060.
Please do videos - “World War Tree” and “Virginia hall”
Ive been on Uboot 505....and it's scary. Very close quarters.
The interesting thing is about this story the part of the sailors trapped inside never told only the part about the second group nor the polish sailor who helped.
I’ve also read that Gallery got in a bit of trouble for not sinking it as it was feared the Germans would learn of its capture and change the enigma codes. June 4 being just one day before the capture of Rome and two days before the Normandy invasion.
Just to be clear, since the tubby sparky made it seem like getting that sub to "the most inland of cities" was a crazy logistic feat, not true in the least. Barge it right from the Atlantic up the Hudson River to the Erie canal to lake Erie (container ships do it on the regular) through the Great lake system to lake Michigan, which Chicago is on the coast of, or at least was the three years I lived there. So you see, while indeed an expensive project with a long timeframe, it was not in the least bit complicated logistically.
I'm a Chicagoian, and I like how you said Chicago
7:22 lol foreshadowing🤣
There was a movie in 2000 about the Americans capturing U-571 based on the British capture of U-110, its Enigma machine and cypher keys. It was panned by American critics because the real pros at capturing submarines were the British, which is acknowledged at the end of the film. The filmmakers were rightfully panned for putting Americans in the film instead of the British for marketing purposes. The real U-571 was sunk off the west coast of Ireland in 1944 by the RAF.
Let the video roll to the end. He almost always has a bit after the credits
The second largest navy = Our museum collection? Jesus 😅
You know, that actually wouldn't shock me in the slightest.
I believe there were two incidents of this. The first to get hold of a naval ENIGMA machine was a British boarding party.
I've been waiting for you guys to do this one!
It kills me, old man, why are you putting up with these kids!!!!
I love the fat electrician. So happy you guys are reacting to his videos
I live in the Chicago land area. My father in law use to be a tour guide on 505. I have some paperwork and pics of that sub. I would love to show you guys what I have. It’s really cool. I just have no way to send pics to you all. lol. I’ve been on it also. It’s really cool.
Ive been in that submarine!
It’s in my favorite museum in Chicago!
You can play with the decoding machine in the museum too
Fat Electrician skimmed over the "important Documents" but in those documents was an intact up to date "Flower Chart" so even with an Enigma machine you still wouldn't know where German U boats where unless you had a current Flower Chart for where their being sent.
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No it was actually the Brits that Broke the enigma code, but later in the war the Germans added another gear for the machine that threw the code deciferers into a panic, that is where the 505 comes in bevause ir had the new codes and new machine
Its an ax with a "pick" on the back to snag and move logs.
The Brits didn't crack the Enigma code with the captured machines. The code was cracked by Alan Turing at the University of Manchester. Humans beat the code machine. (TBF they invented a machine to help, but the real breakthroughs were all human ingenuity.) It wasn't like we just found the codex, and were good from there. The machine itself was well named, because cracking it came before its engineering was understood.
I’m not sure any of these guys have seen Friday… Lol
Yeah, like others said, the poles broke it first, was kept secret, but they didn’t really break it, they broke the code at that time, but it could be easily changed, so the Brit’s had some intelligence on it, they also stole their own enigma. But wasn’t active and no up to date ciphers with it. Now Turning the absolute genius he was, troubled as he was, figured out how to do it, with an American supplied computer, at least all the major parts, and lost of the machine, and also a great team working with/under him. While that was happening. We stole the sub. And active enigma with ciphers and they didn’t know we had it about the time we knew and had it all, Turing had broken the code. But it didn’t matter, as we couldn’t act on it, or else they’d know that we broke it, so we both only used minor intelligence we got to influence small events here and there, and we both had to let’s thousands and thousands more of tons of supplies and ships get sunk, and thousands of American civilians manning those ships die, on purpose to keep up the illusion it was unbreakable for like 2 something years. And limit how many supplies we could get to the UK, French government in exile. And the Soviets, as a large part was still being sunk in the North Atlantic and eastern Atlantic. Lots of hard choices had to be made, I’m sure many of them hated themselves for it the rest of their lives, as they knowingly committed tens of thousands at a minimum to their deaths and kept up the secret, that secret held up better than our atom bomb and the plans to make them. If we had planned better and were able to get ready faster while supplying the Brit’s and Soviets and building up ourselves, while fighting the pacific campaign the whole time, we possibly coulda ended the war 2 years early, at least in Europe and saved tens of millions more between all sides and Allie’s, or innocents. sadly we just couldn’t do that as it turns out takes time to supply the rest of the free world to keep them barely alive while keeping yourselves alive and our producing every nation on earth put together and more, while building up your selves for the biggest, most sweeping military operations of human history, sadly even the mighty US has some limits, if only time. I’m not trying to take from Turing at all, but with the fancy computer, and him, his team, what actually led to them breaking the code in way that could be replicated, in a timely fashion. Thats useable. Is mainly the computer and parts we supplied, before we stole the sub, but also someone in his team recognized a word, from previous intel they gathered and also what was given to them by the British government, presumably by the group of poles who broke a version of it. And they used that to identify that word in every single message they could, the. Used context and guesses, and math/the computer, with their ideas and working on paper them selves to slowly figure it out, word by word and pattern recognition while facing the impossible task of an almost infinite combination of things for the code. To be able to truly break it. So it can be read anytime. No matter a cipher change the poles had to be very good and b wry lucky to break it fast enough to be acted on, but that was their downfall, they acted on it, in a job strategic way, that showed their hand. Then the Germans simply changed the code, and they couldn’t break it again, in anyway that mattered, before they completely fell and were occupied. And the Brit’s and the us could break a particular cipher of it, but they had an infinite amount of combinations, so all they did was rotate them, so by time we broke the old cipher, they had changed it. And it meant nothing anymore, and all you got if you applied the last cipher you broke was letter salad. Meaningless. And most times before people could break any one cipher set they were using, the Germans were on their second to third change…so it was “unbreakable” in meaningful way, until Turing did it with lots of help. And we, (US) just stole it, haha.
Similar story as the movie U-571
They would scuttle it to keep it from being captured. BTW Let us all bow our heads in remembrance of the late great Captain Scuttle!!
I love chippy mcchiopface, that could have be awesome
Ive gone to Chicago to see that submarine! Holy s#!@ was that thing small inside
My 6th grade class trip was to Chicago...Field Museum, Museum of Natural History, Shedd Aquarium and The Sears Tower, some of our teachers were WWII vets, none were Navy though, reading about subs and visiting this sub made me into a Navy guy, my Grandfather was in the Navy in the 1930s and hated it, I joined the Marines which was part of the Navy, especially for 0431, most of these terms and buildings have been renamed, for example Sears Tower is now called Willis Tower😮
The movie with Matthew McConaughey and Bill Paxton, U-boat 571 is almost the same story
Turing ended up being an nVidia GPU series
The RTX2000 series from Nvidia was on what they called their "Turing Architecture"
Been through that sub quite a few times throughout the years.
Cassius Clay by the Fat Electrician please boys!
Yes! Please react to this one.
History has treated Commander Gallery and his crew as the heroes they are. The British government and aspects of society tolerated Dr. Turing until he was no longer needed then cast him aside. It didn’t go well for him.
Ehh, just keep saying you’re back, screw em, haha.
Has this been made into a movie? If not, it should be.
3:33 It was hit with Depth Charges forcing it to surface.
Watch The movie Hunt for Red October and it will make more sense.
I have been on the sub a couple of years ago,really really cramped
hey dave try more like a 7,000+ ton 500+ ft. anchor, until you've seen one in person then u would understand how insane these beasts are
Don't sell yourself short fellas, the UK had an enigma machine before the US got one.
You really have to laugh a little more. He's funny. REALLY.
You guys have to watch his video on the mosquito it's fantastic
The USA used to be the world's silicone chip manufacturer until they outsourced it to Taiwan.
Thats still amazing we stole the sub
Like this tangent the channel has taken. Might eventually subscribe to this guy, but only b/c I learned of him from your rreactions.
If you guys liked this one you have got to see the video on how a toilet sinks a U-boat
If you check the history books you'll find out the Brits did if first in 1941.
pick axe has a pick point and an axe, this forest fire tool is called a pulaski, an axe and an adze
Turing chip was beaten by the potato chip.
I would say you guys should do the 20 min vid of john Stewart coming back to the daily show, but they'll def hit you with a strike. So, maybe for your patreon people, or just for yourselves.
Makes you wonder why with all the garbage movies coming out. Why hasn't someone done a movie about this?? Not to mention some of the other topics of the fat electrician.
Bro, there was a movie made in the 1990s...I believe called U-505😅
You didn't laugh a couple of times. You didn't get that Yank's jokes. Brilliant. 😢
Yous should finish after the vid end, he b saying stuff after
Not stollen captured during a war battle
Hello everyone, hope youre all having a good day today
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You Gus don’t know your own history
After that machine was captured blechly park built the first computer to break the code of the enigma machine
No the submarine is damaged but not sinking they let all the men get out and then sink it
I think I read in the comments on the original video that that wasn't actually the first Enigma machine that the Allies had obtained. There was another one already in Britain that Poland had stolen I believe. And the British were actually really pissed at America because they thought they were going to find out about that ship and change the codes.
Don't quote me on any of that just throwing out whatever I remember reading but maybe somebody else can provide more detail.
The British Navy did it first I think.
The Simpsons already did it
Which part? Getaway enigma machine? Yes. Successfuly capture a u-boat? No, Brits couldn't manage it though not for lack of trying it just was in a state they couldn't manage. It's possible if the same bits were on U-boat 505 they could have saved it, but the 571 or whatever it was they had tried this with, it was just in too bad a shape to capture and bring back. The important part of the enigma machine was it was intact with the accurate current codes, even getting one machine earlier unfortunately only benefits the effort till the codes change. Once the code was crashed by some mathmatitians who realized how they worked that the codes were no longer necessary to find. The machines and the codes each time were invaluable to the war effort so The Fat Electrician isn't snubbing the British war efforts, it's simply not their story he's talking about. The British Radar was the biggest benefit to the wars and warfare to this day.
The British broke the code but thanks
If I remember correctly, the British were kind of mad at us for doing that. You guys had spent a tremendous amount of time and money cracking the Enigma code. If the Germans had realized that we had stolen a submarine with an intact enigma device, they would have changed the codes, negating all the work done to Crack it, and taking away the advantage of being able to read German communications.
All of that for essentially, a stunt. Enigma was already largely cracked, there was no real advantage to studying the boats, so there was far more potential downside to capturing the ship than there was potential upside.
The "CONCEPT" of the personal computer was invented by Charles Babbage, English man, but the actual computer was invented by Americans during the Cold War. Btw your new intro graphics are terrible. You should have kept the old one that looked like the three of you.
please stop letting dave have influence over the videos you guys react too; ill bet money all the strikes have been his choices; he talks out of his ass
I saw the sub, in the late 60's. At that time, they were working on the interior and we couldn't get on board.