Scrubs: Dr Nick Murdoch dealing with young patient
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2010
- Scrubs: Season 1, Episode 7 (My Super Ego). Doctor Murdoch is a young doctor with potential. However when one of his patients isn't getting any better, cracks start to show in his positive attitude.
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“You have to understand everything we do here, everything, every single thing. Is a stall.” Dr. Cox.
There’s an incredible second layer in this whole piece... from a purely medical standpoint, all we ever see is Dr Murdoch seamlessly and seemingly effortlessly treating each symptom which pops up and never looks for, or deals with the underlying cause/problem. Ultimately he can’t escape the core problem by throwing things independently at just the symptoms and it catches up with the patient... it’s a brilliant medical subtext/metaphors for his internal struggle and they downplay it to be almost an un-noticed throwaway... brilliant writing and brilliant work from the medical consultant...
Oh wow, that never even occurred to me but you absolutely nailed it!
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who saw this. He was never really diagnosing the kid just treated symptoms not the underlying illness. He seemed like a confident doctor that had it all figured out. But he never asked for a consult and did 5 things at once. It was his confidence that brought him down in the end
The medical consultant is the guy JD is based on too.
@@hildemel Yeah, I think he and Bill Lawrence (creator of Scrubs) were college room mates or something like that and they stayed friends after college. His name is Dr Jon Doris (J.D.) and he used to tell Bill stories during his medical residency of stuff that happened at the hospital and Bill said “this is gold… we HAVE to make a tv show about all this stuff…” and from there, Scrubs was born.
[edit] Apparently Jon Doris’ wife is also the real-life inspiration for Elliot…
This is what makes this show so amazing. Shifting between happy & sad moments so seamlessly
This was the season 1 episode that really sold the show for me. Most shows would find some flaw to introduce into Nick. Maybe he's cheating, maybe he's stealing from the hospital, there'd be something that gets held over his head to make him be less perfect, let JD get "even" with him, keep him from getting too big and let him stick around as a recurring gag a la Murphy or The Todd.
Here it's none of that. The thing that brings him down isn't that he's a fraud, or that he's doing something wrong or bad. The thing that brings him down is the fact that even though he's a great doctor, there's nothing he can do to save a dying kid, and he can't deal with that. That's not a flaw, that's being human. Who wouldn't be heartbroken about a kid dying like that? It's an unavoidable part of medicine though, and he's just too caring to handle it.
Instead of going the standard sitcom route, they put him against the gritty pain of medical reality, and instead of being a forgettable throwaway character, he's one of my absolute favorite moments in the show.
I used to talk to doctors (particularly juniors) when I did admin for a ward. It was a little weird sometimes how cavalier they could be - particularly when one told me that because they get paid for filling out a cremation notice, those notices are known as "ash cash" - but they have to be that way because the alternative is this. Caring too much won't make you a better doctor, it'll just break you down.
@@SuperMac2007 I lived with a pediatric ER nurse for three and a half years. I've made and laughed at plenty of dark, dark jokes, but I've also sat and had a sad beer in silence after the shifts that got to them. You're right that if you can't find some way to lighten things, those first bad shifts will just bury you.
I know it's been a year but what do you mean when you mention todd
Cause my head just wraps around to the todd from community
But yeah i wholeheartedly agree
No show could balance overly goofy humor with drama the way Scrubs could. That whole emotional situation and montage followed immediately by the Janotor and his ongoing feud with JD. Just flawless.
that's why it's the best medical show, mixing comedy with tragedy captures medicine perfectly.
MASH could. Scrubs was like it's grandson.
There's an excellent book, "This Is Going To Hurt" by Dr Adam Kay. It's a comedic memoir of his medical career. He was a doctor for at least a decade, a gynecologist, and he eventually quit due to burnout. There were several factors at play, mainly poor pay and overwork due to the NHS (British health system) being underfunded and underinvested in, but the final nail in the coffin was the brutal and sudden death of a patient he couldn't save, a pregnant woman. He couldn't save the foetus either, and had to tell the woman's partner that he had lost both of them. This reminds me of that.
I feel bad for Murdoc.
He's so happy and energetic about being a doctor...and yet as the episode went on, it just broke him.
Gotta bend before you break.
Being a Doctor is a soulbreaking Job. A good Friend of the Family was a Chief of Medicine in a "Teaching" Hospital for over 25 years. Most Interns and Residents that left his Hospital just cant take the Mental pressure this job comes with. Most break in their first Year the way Dr. Murdoch did. Nothing in Med School can prepare you for this. He told me his trick is to see Patients not as Humans.. he sees them as Machines he needs to fix because otherwise he would not be able to do it.
@@Y0G0FU Seeing people as machines just dehumanizes people but we all got our ways I guess.
My uniform is my armour for me, I'm all good until it's off and then I allow myself to be vulnerable, crying is a pretty good thing to do for example, screaming too.
@@Y0G0FU He basically has Kelso's mindset. It's good, but eventually takes it's toll. I just hope your friend has good outlets to cope.
@@superbananas7792 It's a double edged sword. Yeah, that's fairly bleak to dehumanize a patient, but... if it's the only way to keep a good doctor from completely breaking and not being a good doctor anymore...
This show can be so complex at times. Dr. Murdoch is so knowledgeable and collected when dealing with the medication and nurses but emotionally he can’t take it. You can be the smartest doctor to ever live but if you can’t handle the torture of losing a young patient you can’t make it. So many layers I love this show
This is why scrubs is one of the most realistic shows. Its just shit like this that fucks us up. No dramatic grays anatomi shit
"seven years man"
Moment when i starting cry
2:21 they way he said "7 years man"
I love how he refuses to lose hope, even when nothing works. Until the end...
Sean Hayes was so good in this role. More often than not he's seen as a loud hyperactive type, goofy, or just plain silly. But this right here, just shows how good of a dramatic actor he can be.
I remember when my niece was in the ICU and I went to the hospital to visit her (it was just for children). While I was walking inside I saw this young doctor crouching outside crying his eyes out. I’ll never forget it
Even Dr Cox who has a 25 years of experience in medicine can be broken by something like this. Humans are fragile although some have strong spirits that can fight another day just like JD.
thanks for uploading. throughout the video i hated nick murdoch like jd...but man when he broke down, it was impossible not to feed sad for the guy. really teaches the world about what doctors go through.
This is a perfect example of why I would never want to be a doctor. I wouldn't be able to handle it mentally and have a breakdown like this.
It's cool you can admit that mate
Honestly, for me it starts waaaaaay earlier. I once had an internship at a doctors office. Most of the time it was really cool and the doctor and her nurses/helpers always found something for me to do, but obviously (since it was a school-thingy) I never actually did anything on a patient.
One day there was a kid, who had to undergo a lactose-intolerancy test. They gave him a crapload of lactose and then he had to come in five times that day to give a bloodsample. But not a normal one, so every time he came in, a nurse hit him with a small metal "needle" in the earlobe and took some blood out of the wound. It was like giving someone an earring-hole, but not quite as deep. One time she had troubles collecting the blood, so she gave me the metalthing and ask me to poke him. And yes, I chickened out. That kid was crying like hell and even though I don't particular like children, I couldn't increase his pain.
Another example would be that old woman, who was extremly afraid of needles, since she had a low pain-tolerance and small, "rolling" veins, so it was super-hard to actually take blood from her. Only the doctor was allowed to do it, with me as "support" in the room to take care of the 'wound' afterwards. That woman was afraid to death the whole procedure, nearly passing-out.
When I think about doing all this and way worse every day to old people and children...nope, no way. Not for a million bucks.
Came for the comment, stayed for Otto's story
I really felt bad for Nick, because you could feel how helpless he is to not being able to help a dying kid 🥺🥺🥺
It's not that he refuses to lose hope. The fact is he sees it like it was in school and in medical books. If #1 doesn't work do #2, if #2 doesn't work do #3 and etc. But of course Medical books don't explicitly tell you that there'll be cases like this.
That's interesting, I thought that he was doing everything right. But I noticed something after reading your comment.
He didn't run any tests to see what he's really dealing with, and always replied right after Laverne mentions a symptom to him.
It is possible to do everything right and still lose. Sometimes, the bad stuff just happens, even if you did everything right to try and prevent it. From my point of view, Nick's fatal flaw was 'not letting the bad stuff in'. You have to let the bad stuff in and then find a way to cope with it. If you just block it off all the time, eventually it's gonna overwhelm you and without any preparations or mental defenses, it'll kick you down so hard you won't be able to get back up, just like it did Nick here.
Hell, this even happens to Cox later in the series and he's a hardened doctor with 20 years of medical practice under his belt.
+Xylarxcode that episode floors me every time
Huynher he got blood cultures on the last treatment. It's where he lost hope
I personally think why Nick lost hope in the end was because he is afraid of death like most people are. I tell people that if you do a job that involves someone dying as part of the job, you can't fear death otherwise you WILL get your ass kicked.
I just noticed that in the scene where Nick gives up, he and JD are wearing opposite colours in their scrubs, as if JD is the reverse of Nick. Nice detail.
Underrated moment when Kelso points at JD and says 'I'll see you tomorrow'.
That's Kelso's way of saying: I know you're strong enough to come back here tomorrow and deal with all this shit again. I'm counting on it. Nick was a good doctor, but not a strong one. You can be both.
BJ Hunnicut: "...He was as strong as any of us."
Hawkeye Pierce: "...That's what scares me."
I was going to say that this reminded me of that MASH episode. Makes me wonder if the got that from MASH or it was at least an “homage.”
IT TOOK ME FOREVER TO REALIZE THIS IS JACK FROM WILL AND GRACE!!!!
He’s that good!!!
This hits hard how real this is. The episode did a good job showing how doctors break, esp during intern yrs, it’s all too common. And usually, it’s sudden and unexpected (perfect and subtly executed in this episode). It’s usually those types of doctors too, remarkable and “sympthetic” ones, that care too much about each and every patient, that break easily. Coping is very painful in the field of medicine.
great personalty for just a random guy entering a episode
ALSO janitor =3 perfect comment
Sean Hayes is such a talent.
No problem just give him every medicine you got laverne. *Best doctor* ..
It's too bad they didn't keep Dr. Murdoch on the show...I think he would have been a great rival for JD to compete against.
I think Elliot was the rival/love interest.
I think that's part of what made the scene brilliant. Made it look like he was fitting into the show and set up to be a long-term friendly rival with JD. But then the writers pull a fast one on us and show that this seemingly strong character was a lot more fragile inside than we first thought.
willynilly91 Plus, I think we had a feeling that he wasn't gonna stick around in a production case. I mean, Sean Hayes couldn't do two main roles at once, maybe on the BBC where each season is usually only 6 episodes, but not on an American 22 episode season. Also, there was no way to know if Scrubs was gonna stick during it's first season and Will and Grace was in its 3rd with a bunch of Emmy nominations to boot.
That would kinda contradict the entire lesson of that episode as well as his character...
He seemed to struggle to play a straight character
Kid **almost dies**
Dr.: No problem.
I really have so much respect for doctors... They first had to go to school for so long, second they have to deal with death on a daily basis and find a way to cope with it and third They come back day after day with the single hope that today will be a good day and they will save more lives than they lose
Thank you so much it means a lot ✌️
Thank you it means a lot ✌️
This is why I could never be a doctor. Hats of to those who can, you’re amazing!
God bless doctors that care. I know its hard in them but they are so appreciated.
Sad scene, but Laverne checking him out is funny.
Y'know, before they rip our hearts out.
That face from JD...
Why would the chief of medicine be cleaning out his locker. He's like one of the last people you'd expect to be doing a job like that.😂
Given that it's Kelso, he probably just enjoys it.
Another one bits the dust sort of thing.
I bet he confiscated a muffin like 8 years beforehand and has insisted on it ever since.
@@bustinarant 😂😂
It makes you wonder the balance of a doctor. Do you want someone who is affected by caring too hard losing their capability to treat others or do you want someone who can act almost unhindered so they can focus on other patients confidently as well?
The poor guy is a Stepford Smilier. He knew this kid was doomed but just couldn't face it. He hoped for the best and it was not to be.
This is why I could never be a doctor...
Lol same even. I thought about becoming one but after i threw up first time saw my friends leg break. I knew i didnt have the stomach or courage for it
It's funny that Family Guy had the guts to mock this show
What a great episode. Really hits home for me. A person may look so happy and strong on the outside but deep down they could be just and scared and weak like the rest of us
The guy at the end who said JD was"stupid" I just realized is Mike from The Middle that's awesome.
The Janitor played by Neil Flynn.
It reminded me when Jack on WILL & GRACE studied to be a nurse... He was ideal.... but that didn't work out either.
Can we all commend Nurse Roberts' actress' acting in these scenes? Superb.
The Acting of the Cast is what made scrubs so brilliant. Each and every Actor played his role near perfectly.
Awful as usual.
This video is older than the kid will ever be
Bruh
I like how his "No problems" start becoming more and more unsure as the video went on.
That boy was such a House M.D. patient. Too bad Nick got him.
i heard that in order to be a good doctor, doctors have to view patients as machines. Or rather, not view them as humans. People are going to die, and you won't be able to do anything about it. And you just move on as if nothing happened. This show does pretty good job in showing that, although in comedy sense. I think Cox said it well at some point, about how they make jokes and everything because that's what keeps them moving.
That's not actually true and a will result in a bad doctor. The idea is to be empathic, truly empathic, meaning you have compassion and feel with your patients - but not for them, don't make them a part of yourself. True empathy means you still view others as separate individuals and you can maintain a relationship with them on a caring but professional level, because you realize they are not you or your close ones, family or friends. So you are touched by their fates and it is okay to even cry over a loss, but you can move back from them again and care for the next person just as much.
I think the best doctor is the one who can make the patients comfortable and doesn't have a problem with dealing with the death of people
Of course, be good at practicing medicine.
These are just few lines but it is too much to ask for form one person
Its like you haven't seen Joe, it's pretty good example why that attitude is not advantageous.
Once, I read a story about a guy who had been a doctor for 30 years. He'd worked in a hospital most of his career and had patients die on him, but he was always able to move on and keep going. But then one day, a patient came in whose prognosis wasn't looking good. Normally, he would handle that the same way he handled all his patients, but this one was different from the others because he was always alone. No one ever came to visit him, no one checked on him, no one asked about him. No friends came, no family, nothing. And eventually, that guy died and no one seemed to realize it had happened. And that's the one case he couldn't handle and move on from and what drove him to stop being a doctor. He couldn't find a way to cope with the way that one patient died. Despite his many years of experience and routine and despite his best attempts to stay professional, something inside him broke when he got that one patient that died on him and no one ever came by to pick up his stuff or ask any questions. Like he was never really a part of the world. Something inside that doctor just broke that day and he was never able to fix it again.
Sometimes, you just get offguard by shit, no matter how prepared you think you are for it.
@@Xylarxcode Hmm. But there are so so many John/Jane Does. Doctors deal with them all the time. And mostly, doctors kick them out once they are stabilized, since they're way too busy dealing with other patients (and cold administrators aren't helping the case).
There is another layer here that no one is talking about, the actor is Sean Hayes, a gay actor that only came out in 2010, even though he played a gay man in 'Will and Grace' (1998-2005, 2017-2020).
In my head canon, for this roll he is "straight passing" (i.e. a gay man that tries to seem straight to other people) and the subsequent shame is really weighing on him. Some times the shame can be so debilitating, that it can have a deeply disastrous effect on ones work and personal life. It can lead you to self-harming behaviors like drugs, alcohol, and self-mutilation, or it can ruin your professional career like I think it did here.
Can someone pls tell me how the background song is named when they find Murdoch and he has a "breakdown"? I love it so much
“Yea! Little bit!”
The hardest hitting point about this episode:
9/11 happened a week earlier. That's why a lot of the episode Cox looked exhausted and actually was a lot more physical a comedian than he usually was. He had a brother in the towers, he lived, but had a concussion and couldn't be found for nineteen hours.
This episode hits a lot harder knowing that it fit with the events and the stress of what doctors go through.
Argh I love sean hayes
Dang I remember this dang
fuck now i have to rewatch scrubs
Guess the people saying Nick (or Ben for that matter) should have stayed on the show for longer or indefinitely, do not understand the point of them being there. These characters are important for Scrubs _because_ they didn't last very long. That's their legacy.
Questio for doctors here. I know why the scene is the way it is (to show how brutal baing a doctor can be) but wouldn't an experienced doctor step in if nothing was working? Especially as he was an intern.
It’s not shown on screen, but it’s very likely that he did already discuss the kid’s options privately with his attendings/seniors, and they agreed that the kid will likely face an inevitable decline. Some things are truly inevitable no matter how much experience you have. We as the audience didn’t get to witness him having that difficult conversation with the attending, since we’re seeing things through J.D.’s eyes.
anyone know where on youtube there's the guitar melody at 1:39?
08OviFan its a sting the composer of Scrubs uses throughout the series
Give me one of the okays thanks. 1:25
In the end you need to find ways of getting out of your own head, taking up a hobby that pushes you out of that is one but also grounding yourself and being vulnerable after a really shit shift.
I cry in the shower, talk to my mum about work (Shes a Nurse herself) and run around fields shooting plastic pellets at people.
You can't face the horrid shit you do on your own especially working in Healthcare, the military, fire service etc.
Also fuck all that macho bullshit if you wanna scream and cry out you do that my friend.
Its jack lol.
@1:35 Important.
Nick and Ed could've become great doctors. They're both smart.
But they lack important traits JD, Elliot and Turk had.
I know this is the serious part of the episode, but WAS NOBODY EXCITED THAT THIS FELT LIKE A CROSSOVER WITH WILL AND GRACE, except it's only Student Nurse Jack McFarland!!!!!!!! Yes i know he's an intern doctor here, but sTILL ????? I got so hyped up i almost screamed lmao
Aren't they going for internal medicine . Why is he treating a kid.
pediatrics are more for simpler cases from starting vaccination dates to any puberty complications. when a patient has more complicated issues like this kid did they're transferred to more adult focused primaries
Replace Dr. Murdoch with Dr. Steve Nuesome, replace the little boy with the Pusan Perimeter, replace Dr. Dorian and Dr. Elliot with Hawkeye and B.J. and voila....a story with the same exact plot, but from the 80's. I've noticed several rehashed plots from M*A*S*H turn up on this show. Still a great series though. And not unlike M*A*S*H, you can go from laughing to blubbering in less than 22 minutes.
Well, the basic problems of medicine and working with the sick dont neccessarily change. so any medical show is bound to have overlap.
not hating on nick but if you notice, he responds way too quick with a result. if he took some time maybe he would have found the real medicine the kid needed and not some quick fix for one symptom
JD is so narcisitic and self centerd I wished him gone all the time
Weakling
Moron
@@142doddy I think he/she was describing him/herself lol
One time I had a friend. I wasn't jealous like JD, in fact I looked up to him. I saw the kind of person I wanted to be, a better version of myself. But he ended up crossing a lot of people (even me, and I hate the way I acted). He couldn't deal with it and preferred to cut ties altogether.
And it reminded me of this episode. To see someone "better" than you, only for them to fall apart and you're left to realize that you have to carry yourself. I like to think that, like JD, I withstood the test of time.
I hope my friend's doing all right. And I hope this character found peace even though he never appeared again.