@@ARuralVermonterQqjmcb182 you overdid it a LOT ... all it needs is a small puff (one small spray) ... you drenched the carb in it... and damaged components of the engine, most likely.
*sprays way too much starting fluid into carb* ,*lights mower on fire*, *cleans up mess*, *continues to spray even more starting fluid than before, so much that it's pissing out of the carb and onto the spot where the fire originally happened* I can't believe it didn't light on fire again.
Yeah, just make sure to be careful. You don't need nearly as much fluid as you used. Just get a little red straw for spray cans and stick it down the throat of the carb, then give it a little squirt. That should be all you need. Good luck on future projects, but keep an extinguisher on hand, and don't get too cocky.
Ya dude one spray or two is all u need my snowmobile is like that because it’s a 76 and it starts with only starting fluid I satart it one or two spray and it starts
@@ARuralVermonterQqjmcb182 They seemed klunky to me when my friend had his. His was running a Honda GXV360 or 390. It ran quite well, especially since it originally had one of these crappy Briggs engines in it. I wasn't too impressed with it due to the awkward placement of the transmission controls. Then again, I've had mostly MTD riders that seemed to do what I neeeded them to do. Now I own a Walker Mowers zero turn machine powered by a Kohler Command Pro 23.5 HP engine and two Cub Cadet Series 2000 tractors with Kohler Command Pro 12.5 HP engines. Other riders I had for a time were a Honda HT3813, loved that machine but finding replacement parts for it would have been more expensive than I was willing to fix it, an old Poulan Pro tractor with an 18 HP Kohler Magnum opposed twin that sounded like a Diesel engine when it ran and a New Holland tractor with an 18 HP Kohler Command Pro V-Twin.
same thing happen to me with my friends push mower. the primer bulb was fucked so i put gas in the carb bc it hasn’t been started in 2 years and it was shooting flames out of carb intake and then all the sudden it was flooding and all the gas caught on fire and spit out the mower. neighbor ran over with a fire extinguisher and helped us
NEVER use ether to start ANY small engine. Its a great way to break a crank shear key on the flywheel on a backfire. Not only that, its HIGHLY flammable. I ALWAYS use a gas oil mix. If it is on an engine that has been sitting for a while, the oil will lubricate the cylinder. I have been working on small engines for 25 years or better. My first experience on a Snowblower was breaking the flywheel key because ether causes backfires every time. The sudden reverse of the engine causes the keyway to shear. You dont have to mix the oil gas 50/50 or anything like that, just a small amount in an oil can, or spray bottle works. Straight gas in a spray bottle eats the spray bottles guts. That fire was about out and you just made a BIG mess and wasted an extingusher. That powder is EVERYWHERE NOW. You should have used an air compressor and blown everything off. Dude, nice MESS.
Thats because you should never take off the air Filter when engine is cold especially you are spraying something into the intake, if then it gives a backfire this happens
If your carburetor is on fire, just crank the engine again , that sucks the flame and the gasoline haze into the engine, that extinguish your fire very fast
@@zachneufeld2148 partly true lol i mean other people are learning his bad habits like a gallon of starter fluid into the carb. that could detonate an engine im sure. but oh well who am i to say lol
It only takes a little of the starting fluid like one small spray or two then choke it so it can suck it in instead of air . A little safer option is to take a small amount of gas poured in to like a cap or a oil jug or something and pour it straight in the carb .
If you are going to use ether, spray it while cranking the engine to prevent damaging the engine. Also ether removes the oil from the cylinder wall, so if it don't start, put some lube in there before it rusts.
I have an older version of that little John Deere that caught fire... I will never understand the reason for putting the muffler orientation such that is obstructed by the drop-down body. the body gets super hot from the exiting exhaust gases! also the presence of the body covering the muffler causes the exhaust gases to hang around. to me it just don't make sense
The motor has been changed on this. If you look closely you can see the exhaust pipe from the original muffler sticking out from below the engine. The engine cooling vent on the original 8hp would go out where this motors muffler is and exhaust would go out below the body and away into the blue yonder
Get a HALON fire extinguisher, it will put out the fire just as easy, but without the monoammonium phosphate powder. You're wise, to clear that powder out of the engine, to protect the valve faces the seats, as well as the piston rings and cylinder walls. A HALON fire extinguisher would have saved you a lot of work, cleaning up the mess from all the powder. Another advantage is, that the fire extinguisher will work a second time, if need later. The powder fowls the seal in the ABC extinguisher valve, causing it to lose pressure, even though there's no loss of powder. Dry chemical extinguishers are a '1-time use only", then they need to be recharged, even if not empty. HALON doesn't do that. It's much more useful, if you regularly work with gasoline fueled engines.
The Deere sounds like it might be missing most of it's compression. Doesn't seem like it smokes much on start up so I'm guessing it's the head gasket and not the rings.
Yeah, in one of my later videos I did a compression test and this was true. One of the issues was the intake valve not sealing, but I haven't checked the head gasket yet.
I burnt my snowblower to a crisp after checking for spark and not wiping the plug . Carb was leaking gas onto the machine and my oil pan was underneath .went to put it out with the fire extinguisher and it didn’t work .least to say I threw that one out
Oh, that still says Wheel Horse on the back...cool. I have a 1989 312-8 and a 2000 314-8 overhead valve. I wish now I had gone for the 400 series with hydro. Maybe I can find one on Craigslist.
This happened to me one time I had a John Deere 111 me and my buddy was trying to get running and we had just re painted it and he took the air filter off and sprayed starter fluid in it just went up in flames
Well don't feel bad I started my duecth all is on fire and I only had beer to put it out and I was out in the field mowing and drunk so it took a minute to decide beer or lawn mower .lol though
Don't EVER sell the Toro tractor. That is a slightly updated model based on the Wheel Horse...tough as nails. Toro doesn't build anything but front mount now.
Ok first thing you need to learn is that starting fluid is like cocaine to a gas or Diesel engines, use it very wisely and you can also use WD40 as starting fluid
Thanks. Right now I have a 2001 silverado, a 2015 sierra (which is technically not mine because it is a company truck) and a 2003 s10. I love them all!
A Rural Vermonter - Qqjmcb 182 I have a 1969 Chevrolet Chevelle and omfg I love it to pieces the only thing I like in vehicle wise is Chevrolet and dodge
Hell yeah I love chevys. Dodges are pretty good too, not so much Ford's. I'll try to keep these as long as I live! Then maybe they'll be worth something when I die lol
Wouldn't call that massive fire. To much starting fluid sprayed which when you tried to blow it out caused the excessive over spray to catch and by the time you for back with the fire extinguisher it had almost burnt was was left off.
No worries with me brother. I don't care if you don't like Bernie, he didn't win anyway! I would never hate like Shane did (and I also didnt like Hillary)
The Deere runs like a....deere. It also burns like one. Adding fuel to the fire (no pun intended) it's running one of the most termperamental engines I have had the displeasure of once owning. Kohler Command Pro? Pretty good, Powermore? Runs like a Honda, because it copies one. Honda? Best running engines I ever had. Kawasaki? I can't really comment, I only had one, but it never ran well. Briggs? Mediocre at best, incredibly temperamental at worst. That includes the flat heads, and even Vanguard engines. I was never really impressed. Tecumsehs ran well for me too.
I was trying to start a lawnmower and I had the airfilter off and it spat from the card a little flame and I had an oil pan under and the oil pan took fire
starting fluid is not a good idea for small engines ... especially just spraying it all over the place... IF you need to use it, best to use a small cap full and pour directly onto the carb
I am not sure if your going to see this, but your extinguisher is on a recall list. If you still have it, call kidde. 800-880-6788. And if it’s defected, I don’t think it would be because you used it and it worked fine. If it is however, you will get a free one sent to your house. Also that is a K class fire extinguisher and that’s a kitchen class fire extinguisher.
if you actually have a 1965 snapper push mower, that is super cool. Could you send me a picture of it? my email is qqjmcb1@gmail.com . Maybe i'll buy it from you to restore lol. If not though, I would use craigslist or ebay. They are both free sites to sell things on. Hoping that you will send me a picture of it though!
That's nothing I had a gas line brake on me going across my yard burnt to the ground with in less then 5 minutes very bad fire I had my hair burnt of my head and everything definitely was a experience
Took soo long for him to grab that fire extinguisher that the fire almost went out by itself
“doesnt need too much” *carb dripping with fluid*
lol I may have overdone it a bit
@@ARuralVermonterQqjmcb182 yep lol.
@@ARuralVermonterQqjmcb182 you overdid it a LOT ... all it needs is a small puff (one small spray) ... you drenched the carb in it... and damaged components of the engine, most likely.
*sprays way too much starting fluid into carb* ,*lights mower on fire*, *cleans up mess*, *continues to spray even more starting fluid than before, so much that it's pissing out of the carb and onto the spot where the fire originally happened* I can't believe it didn't light on fire again.
Lol I appreciate the humor
Yeah, just make sure to be careful. You don't need nearly as much fluid as you used. Just get a little red straw for spray cans and stick it down the throat of the carb, then give it a little squirt. That should be all you need. Good luck on future projects, but keep an extinguisher on hand, and don't get too cocky.
thanks and i agree .
by the time he actually managed to find an extinguisher all the fluid had nearly burnt itself out
Welcome back to another video,today we are gonna set the john deere 68 on fire
U spray enough ether to start a durmax
Lol yup, I definitely need to rebuild the carb
ditto 4 durmaxs
ron lathrop lol
Ya dude one spray or two is all u need my snowmobile is like that because it’s a 76 and it starts with only starting fluid I satart it one or two spray and it starts
ron lathrop and two powerstrokes
Wayyyyy too much starting fluid!! 😳
“Massive Fire”
It's nice to see other people with the old rear engine riders too, my S82 has been very useful over the years
they are pretty nifty
@@ARuralVermonterQqjmcb182 They seemed klunky to me when my friend had his. His was running a Honda GXV360 or 390. It ran quite well, especially since it originally had one of these crappy Briggs engines in it. I wasn't too impressed with it due to the awkward placement of the transmission controls. Then again, I've had mostly MTD riders that seemed to do what I neeeded them to do. Now I own a Walker Mowers zero turn machine powered by a Kohler Command Pro 23.5 HP engine and two Cub Cadet Series 2000 tractors with Kohler Command Pro 12.5 HP engines. Other riders I had for a time were a Honda HT3813, loved that machine but finding replacement parts for it would have been more expensive than I was willing to fix it, an old Poulan Pro tractor with an 18 HP Kohler Magnum opposed twin that sounded like a Diesel engine when it ran and a New Holland tractor with an 18 HP Kohler Command Pro V-Twin.
same thing happen to me with my friends push mower. the primer bulb was fucked so i put gas in the carb bc it hasn’t been started in 2 years and it was shooting flames out of carb intake and then all the sudden it was flooding and all the gas caught on fire and spit out the mower. neighbor ran over with a fire extinguisher and helped us
NEVER use ether to start ANY small engine. Its a great way to break a crank shear key on the flywheel on a backfire. Not only that, its HIGHLY flammable. I ALWAYS use a gas oil mix. If it is on an engine that has been sitting for a while, the oil will lubricate the cylinder. I have been working on small engines for 25 years or better. My first experience on a Snowblower was breaking the flywheel key because ether causes backfires every time. The sudden reverse of the engine causes the keyway to shear. You dont have to mix the oil gas 50/50 or anything like that, just a small amount in an oil can, or spray bottle works. Straight gas in a spray bottle eats the spray bottles guts. That fire was about out and you just made a BIG mess and wasted an extingusher. That powder is EVERYWHERE NOW. You should have used an air compressor and blown everything off. Dude, nice MESS.
So that was a massive fire ??? My Zippo does better ...🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴
Lol sorry I don't meet your standards😋
A Rural Vermonter - Qqjmcb 182. SCHEISSKOPH 💩🐴
Rodney Brand
A Rural Vermonter - Qqjmcb 182 I wouldn’t say sorry bc he must have a hell of a zippo
First you check for fuel. Then you check if you got fire... Holy Smoke!!
I love how calm he is
Coming from another Vermonter keep that fire extinguisher by your side its a life saver trust me.
Thats because you should never take off the air Filter when engine is cold especially you are spraying something into the intake, if then it gives a backfire this happens
If your carburetor is on fire, just crank the engine again , that sucks the flame and the gasoline haze into the engine, that extinguish your fire very fast
when the carb catches fire you need to keep cranking the engine over.
that would keep feeding the fire fuel
TeamGreenMachine yeah but it will suck up the flames.
“Royce Vance” Yup, I totally agree, if you don’t know how to do things properly then he shouldn’t make videos about it 😂
Yup, it pulls all the fire into the cylinder quenching it and also helps with cold starts by heating the cylinder
@@zachneufeld2148 partly true lol i mean other people are learning his bad habits like a gallon of starter fluid into the carb. that could detonate an engine im sure. but oh well who am i to say lol
It only takes a little of the starting fluid like one small spray or two then choke it so it can suck it in instead of air . A little safer option is to take a small amount of gas poured in to like a cap or a oil jug or something and pour it straight in the carb .
If you are going to use ether, spray it while cranking the engine to prevent damaging the engine. Also ether removes the oil from the cylinder wall, so if it don't start, put some lube in there before it rusts.
thanks i will
I have an older version of that little John Deere that caught fire... I will never understand the reason for putting the muffler orientation such that is obstructed by the drop-down body. the body gets super hot from the exiting exhaust gases! also the presence of the body covering the muffler causes the exhaust gases to hang around. to me it just don't make sense
yeah its a bad design
The motor has been changed on this. If you look closely you can see the exhaust pipe from the original muffler sticking out from below the engine. The engine cooling vent on the original 8hp would go out where this motors muffler is and exhaust would go out below the body and away into the blue yonder
Dude it’s the new self warmer
Get a HALON fire extinguisher, it will put out the fire just as easy, but without the monoammonium phosphate powder. You're wise, to clear that powder out of the engine, to protect the valve faces the seats, as well as the piston rings and cylinder walls. A HALON fire extinguisher would have saved you a lot of work, cleaning up the mess from all the powder. Another advantage is, that the fire extinguisher will work a second time, if need later. The powder fowls the seal in the ABC extinguisher valve, causing it to lose pressure, even though there's no loss of powder. Dry chemical extinguishers are a '1-time use only", then they need to be recharged, even if not empty. HALON doesn't do that. It's much more useful, if you regularly work with gasoline fueled engines.
The Deere sounds like it might be missing most of it's compression. Doesn't seem like it smokes much on start up so I'm guessing it's the head gasket and not the rings.
Yeah, in one of my later videos I did a compression test and this was true. One of the issues was the intake valve not sealing, but I haven't checked the head gasket yet.
this vid was hilarious lol atleast you learned something.
You shouldn't have sprayed starter fluid in it. It dries out the cylinders so it will always need starting fluid
All is good brother. If the Marine Corp taught me one thing; it's to not take shit seriously. I wish you all the best.
Glad you and Shane figured it out. It was good entertainment for me though
wow what a huge fire i am surprised there were no fire trucks.
should have cranked it over again, the fire would have been sucked out. Its always nice to have an extinguisher on hand for this stuff.
I no longer use the dry chem type extinguisher. The dust is toxic, corrosive. I've switched to better alternative.
good to know
good to know
Bo, you lucky that the battery didnt get affected
Nothing burns like a Deere.
beer's a good fire suppressant for those pesky backfires.
My Naibors dirt bike leaks from the carb and we were jumper cabling it and it lit on fire and started spitting on it 😂
I never half to use starting fluid on my John deer 68
Nothing runs like a Deere.
Ancient secret...keep fire extinguisher handy like in work area and like hand cleaner, a little dab will do ya fine \m/
thanks
That Kohler Command Vtwin in the toro sounds awesome.
yeah it's got a great growl
what horse command twin is that. My ol husqvarna yth180 has a 18 command vtwin.
this one is also the 18 hp model
To me there is nothing like them commands. Maybe I overreact but, would take mine command over a briggs twin any day but, that is just me
I like the commands but my personal preference would be a Briggs.
The gasket to the carb is jacked up if you leaking out carb cleaner like that
You never allow the Engine to rev like that from a cold start
why didnt you put the bolt from the air cleaner back in so the starting fluid dose not leak out the bolt hole in the base of the carby ?
I should have
for that ill sub .... its rare a youtuber will admit something they did wrong let alone admit to someone thats telling them what hey did wrong !!!
Much appreciated!
I burnt my snowblower to a crisp after checking for spark and not wiping the plug . Carb was leaking gas onto the machine and my oil pan was underneath .went to put it out with the fire extinguisher and it didn’t work .least to say I threw that one out
Wow that was massive
It's funny because the fuel had pretty much burnt out by the time he actually got the extinguisher ready
Oh, that still says Wheel Horse on the back...cool. I have a 1989 312-8 and a 2000 314-8 overhead valve. I wish now I had gone for the 400 series with hydro. Maybe I can find one on Craigslist.
Those are both great tractors. I'm sure you could find a 400 series on craigslist
1st one sounds good the Sabre
This happened to me one time I had a John Deere 111 me and my buddy was trying to get running and we had just re painted it and he took the air filter off and sprayed starter fluid in it just went up in flames
Everyones calling the carb cleaner starter fluid. If that was true the carb would have likely exploded off of the engine.
Great video dude!
My john Deere 68 with 11 horse Craftsman about did the same thing.
Well don't feel bad I started my duecth all is on fire and I only had beer to put it out and I was out in the field mowing and drunk so it took a minute to decide beer or lawn mower .lol though
lol
Don't EVER sell the Toro tractor. That is a slightly updated model based on the Wheel Horse...tough as nails. Toro doesn't build anything but front mount now.
Too much starting fluid, the Fire come by the muffler or intake valve. If you want you can choke with hand for start the engine
Ok first thing you need to learn is that starting fluid is like cocaine to a gas or Diesel engines, use it very wisely and you can also use WD40 as starting fluid
lol good analogy. I sometimes substitute carb clean or brake clean for starter fluid, ill try wd-40 though
Love ur truck dude
Thanks. Right now I have a 2001 silverado, a 2015 sierra (which is technically not mine because it is a company truck) and a 2003 s10. I love them all!
A Rural Vermonter - Qqjmcb 182 I have a 1969 Chevrolet Chevelle and omfg I love it to pieces the only thing I like in vehicle wise is Chevrolet and dodge
A Rural Vermonter - Qqjmcb 182 don’t ever sell them man, keep em!! Most reliable vehicles. I’m all for Chevy
A Rural Vermonter - Qqjmcb 182 I love both of those vehicles u have
Hell yeah I love chevys. Dodges are pretty good too, not so much Ford's. I'll try to keep these as long as I live! Then maybe they'll be worth something when I die lol
Wouldn't call that massive fire. To much starting fluid sprayed which when you tried to blow it out caused the excessive over spray to catch and by the time you for back with the fire extinguisher it had almost burnt was was left off.
It ain't got no gas in it (says Billy bob)
I never use ether, WD-40 works good, and has oil to lube the cylinder walls, flammable but not explosive.
thats a good alternative
Use a shop rag or towel for small fires
Need to keep a fire extinguisher in the garage.
Let’s try to rebuild the carburetor now!
when this happens, Just crank the engine over again, it will suck the fire back into the engine.
It's all good. By the way, my comment was all in good fun. No hard feelings..
No worries with me brother. I don't care if you don't like Bernie, he didn't win anyway! I would never hate like Shane did (and I also didnt like Hillary)
The Deere runs like a....deere. It also burns like one. Adding fuel to the fire (no pun intended) it's running one of the most termperamental engines I have had the displeasure of once owning. Kohler Command Pro? Pretty good, Powermore? Runs like a Honda, because it copies one. Honda? Best running engines I ever had. Kawasaki? I can't really comment, I only had one, but it never ran well. Briggs? Mediocre at best, incredibly temperamental at worst. That includes the flat heads, and even Vanguard engines. I was never really impressed. Tecumsehs ran well for me too.
Where did I miss the MASSIVE FIRE?
I dont know if it's an OHV engine, if so it may need a valve lash adjustment, good luck.
Carborator got to get changed
i rebuilt it.
I was trying to start a lawnmower and I had the airfilter off and it spat from the card a little flame and I had an oil pan under and the oil pan took fire
rebuild the carb. Also way to much starting fluid!!! You only need a squirt.
i did in my last vid on it
I know we all make mistakes and no hate but that was way too much starting fluid, If it wasn't a fire it would've blown the motor anyways
Someone probably said it but I dont wanna read em all, crank the engine if theres a carb fire
Funny thing is that when you saw the fire if you would have tried to crank i over more it probably would’ve went out
Spray some more in there
Massive fire where i didnt see it
Well hell; anybody that isn't good with Hillary is definetly good with me!
You clearly should not work on mowers! I like the fact that you had to show the camera the fire extinguisher before pitting the fire out!
Haha I just wanted to show you guys. Anyway alls well that ends well in my mind, if you don't like it, don't watch it
starting fluid is not a good idea for small engines ... especially just spraying it all over the place... IF you need to use it, best to use a small cap full and pour directly onto the carb
6:17 start that Razor too:-)
Should call it a john doe instead ;)
I use windshield washer hose gas line lol
lol
I am not sure if your going to see this, but your extinguisher is on a recall list. If you still have it, call kidde. 800-880-6788. And if it’s defected, I don’t think it would be because you used it and it worked fine. If it is however, you will get a free one sent to your house. Also that is a K class fire extinguisher and that’s a kitchen class fire extinguisher.
Oh I never knew that! I do still have it but it is empty.
A Rural Vermonter - Qqjmcb 182 oh ok. Call it in. If it’s defected, you will and should get a free one.
Are you going to selling the sabre
Do you know any way to sell a old antique 1965 snapper push mower? I have one and it looks really old. To wimpy for a commercial business.
if you actually have a 1965 snapper push mower, that is super cool. Could you send me a picture of it? my email is qqjmcb1@gmail.com . Maybe i'll buy it from you to restore lol. If not though, I would use craigslist or ebay. They are both free sites to sell things on. Hoping that you will send me a picture of it though!
sorry, I'm not ready to sell it QUIT yet. It still needs to be fixed
@@ARuralVermonterQqjmcb182 I've got an 86 snapper push mower. In really good condition and it works. I used it during the summer
I've been trying to trade it for a riding mower if your interested
better to used gas in squirt can to much starting fluid will blow engine rings
I have done that many times I blew it out every time then started it right up
careful when blowing on a gas fire....
You should have sticked to "cold start gone wrong", like you said.
Yeah but the views were nice
Good for you. I disliked your video because of the clickbait title.
Alright well consided watching some other videos then maybe you'll like them better
Just give your videos appropriate titles and I'll decide if I'm gonna watch them or not.
Nah I think I'm just gonna title them what I want to and not care whether you watch or not
Always have a air filter on did you get the vavles adjusted???
This is a flathead engine, no overhead valves
that raven tractor, what's the big deal with it? I see it everywhere online.
I guess people like the concept
sounds right... thanks.
We’re did you get that snowplower on the tractor
I found it on craigslist
new carb warming idea lol Dont take much ether
When I was a kid I lit farts that lasted longer.
Lol. I may have exaggerated a little but it scared the crap out of me
I may have too.
Only caught the last bit on camera.
Guy - dousint need too much starter fluid
Guy - dumps half a can
Lmao 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ( jk )
That's nothing I had a gas line brake on me going across my yard burnt to the ground with in less then 5 minutes very bad fire I had my hair burnt of my head and everything definitely was a experience
Won’t too much starting fluid do something to the engine??
It delubricates the head
why did the john deere 68 backfired
the intake valve was frozen
Maybe it was cause by the cylinder facing the gas tank?
Or the muffler near the carb
maybe
Lmao a little starter fluid any one else see it pissing on the frame of the tractor
lol I noticed that when editing the video
2:35
Nice