Milling a 43 inch log with a 56 inch blade on a Frick Sawmill
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- This week we finally got around to making 2" thick (8 quarter for the woodworkers...) oak slabs from one of Eric's big oak logs. We wanted 12 foot long boards, so the feller left the base of the tree on this log, so while the "skinny" end of this was 34 inches, the butt end was well over 40 inches. And with a 56 inch blade we can't slice it since our blade does about 26 inches maximum. Doug suggested we "pencil" it to make it smaller. I think that's a good plan, but with a red oak log that probably weighs close to 4,000 pounds it was hard to roll and it knocked the sled off the rail once. Fortunately, we had Dan (AKA Muscles) along with Eric, Matt, Pete, Tom and Allen to get things on track. Thanks for watching! Please click subscribe and give this a thumbs up!
In an old mill close to were I grew up they mounted an old swing saw with its own engine as a top saw and when big logs came into the mill the old swing saw was cranked up and sawing went easy
Yes, most "real mills" have a saw/blade on top also. The commercial mill near us does exactly that.... We're poor though.... !!!
I used to get to split logs lengthwise with chainsaw. Ran edger and tended main saw. Getting there before daybreak on below zero mornings would earn you some respect or prove you're an idiot. I asked myself WTF many times.
John, absolutely. My wife and I installed 1,500 feet of 3 rail fence three years ago. We earned the respect of the local farmer. And, we dug 2/3 the holes by hand.... Take care.
Excellent show,it makes me think about what all goes into making finished lumber, most people have no clue of what goes on in a saw mill, please keep up the good work and be safe !!
Carl, Thank you. Yes, part of my "theme", if you call it that, is how time consuming and how much waste is involved in making boards on a small scale like we do. If people thought about the effort to cut a tree down, buck it, transport it to a mill, cut it up, bring it home, sticker it, joint it, plane it and then make something out of it they'd probably take up another hobby! I'm fortunate to have an unlimited supply of trees, but most people aren't that fortunate.
Wayno
John sent me over to watch, love seeing the old times , makes you really appreciate technology
Welcome aboard Greg. Thanks for joining. Wayno
Is that Zeph Cashin's old mill?
That name is not familiar. Is Zeph from Anne Arundel County?
That’s when you need a top saw. Lots of work but some beautiful lumber though!
You got that right!
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This would be the only place a meaningless band mill would have the advantage, with a log of this size cut in half, then the rotary mill could slice it up in no time.
Yea, absolutely!
Scary as can be. One trip or stumble, lost limb or lost life. And yes, I’ve ran a circle saw sawmill.
yea, probably more risky than stamp collecting!
WHEN THE SLED CAME OFF THE TRACKS, I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS NO RAIL GUARD SO IT JUST SLID OVER. A STRIP OF IRON WELDED TO THE OUTSIDE RAIL WOULD STOP THAT!
Yes, that's an older video. We try to strap the carriage down now if there is a chance of knocking it off the track. The one we run at the fair has those things.
Did you roll the other log off and make firewood out of it
No... we fought it another day. It did make nice slabs though!
Where is this sawmill located & where can I get more information on frick & other vintage sawmill’s ? Thank you for the video I was memorized by it lol
We're at Kinder Farm park in Millersville Maryland. Join us any Wednesday about 0900!
hi there you guys did a great job on that big one . nice to have lots of help . john
John, thanks! Yes, we're lucky to have so many folks who want to help. Although.... in the future we'll be strapping the sled down like you suggested!
@@WaynesWorldGarage it can take a lot of time to get them back on track . but you guys did good . john
100% agree Wayne, the pencil sharpener method was just too much effort and difficult to turn once the flat sides made their way around to the sled. It was a fun experiment though. I second your vote to rip the top with the chainsaw next week.
The good news is we're not paid by the board foot! Although we produced a lot of BF very fast once the pencil got small enough!!!
Que está en lugar que no hay electricidad!!!! Todo el aserradero parece todos a diésel. Por el trabajo esta espectacular. Y la forma de cortar las maderas ni que hablar ..maravilloso aserradero .mis felicitaciones a esto seres que se empeñas a trabajar. Saludos desde los lejos amigos .🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
thank you. It is powered by a 100 horse power gas engine. Lots of torque! Thank you for watching.
@@WaynesWorldGarage no entiendo nada !!!!!!!🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🎯🎯
Love the video!!! Especially all the comradery with the guys.... There is a chainsaw method that doesn't require a chainsaw mill.... You could simply cut it right in half in twenty minutes or so... Them Chinese folks do it all the time in the jungle with them 070 Stihl s. Either way I enjoyed watching your video... Wish I had that much help... It seems a lost art to have family and friends around doing stuff like this together. Glad to see someone still doing it and at least I can still see it in this day and age.
Amber, Thanks. What type of chain are you using to rip? My biggest saw is a Stihl MS462, It's not big, buy it will handle a 28 or 32" bar with no problem. When I rip with it though, I get huge shreds instead of chips.
Thanks
Wayne
@@WaynesWorldGarage search ripping chain. Helps substantially!!
I've got a 56 inch Frick sawmill also
awesome! What powers it?
I've been there and done the same thing on my mills many times.
Lee Gibbs
Yea... a real PITA. (Pain In The A__)
take off about 16 ' of your flat track and replace it with 1 1/2" angle iron. i have a Renco log turner on my mill ,i've never thrown the carrage
Dan, Good idea. Thank you.
@@WaynesWorldGarage 20' or more might be better if you don't run your carrage all the way back.make it the same thickness as your flat track
Beautiful Boards
Thanks! Wayno
Amazing video ! What size is your sawmill shed?
I think we're about 40'x80'. Thanks!
making the stop sign to get the size needed
yea, we do it all the time! thanks for watching!
A Ol Friend who was 97 when he passed was a sawyer fo 50+ yeras.
He told me when on a FRICK mill you pull the carriage back to saw another board if the blade draged on the spiing blade.
He could tell if the blade was sawing straight he said a continuous scraping meant the blade was straight. If it skipped ,
in sound the blade needed to be realigned. I do believe he knew what he was talking about.
I'm sure he knew what he was talking about! If the lead of the saw is wrong, it will cause a lot of problems. Thanks!
👍👌👏 Very well done (video and work). Thanks a lot for making explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards luck and especially health to all involved people.
Thanks for the feedback!
They really ring when they hit a railroad spike. Barbed wire fence & nails. Old timers used to ram a rock into crotch of young tree and it closed the crotch. Knocked teeth out of saw blades too.
glass insulators seem to be the worst. Worse for bandsaw guys though... we can fix/sharpen ours!
Would love to see part 1 /part 2 tremendous amount of work going into making lumber on those old saws especially with out a long turner you guys deserve a cold one after that log. Thanks for the videos!
Thanks. Yes, making "things" out of lumber from the woods is a lot more effort than buying box store boards. Sae the tree down, buck it, transport the sticks, loade them up, saw 'em, sticker 'em, wait, joint them, plane them, and now you can build!!! But.. you know where the boards came from!!
A lot of log for a 0 frick mill . Old folks called that gun barreling a log . I have a 00 frick I’m trying to restore .. great video
Interesting. We've cut much bigger! Lots of work
You need a master dog!
One of the local experts said that's the sawyer! Thanks for watching.
Min. 3:56 You need longer levers, couple 4x4" 8' long 2 men coul move it.
If you cut the log in half, longitudinally, you can work with two halves. The first cut, just make sure is shorter, less deeper that the second, so you don't risk a split, which is not always impossible.
Then smooth the final boards the best you can (the central four faces you cut to achieve halves, may not be like a one single cut because the blade radio or s smaller, if you weren't able to achieve just 2 faces or a perfect straight cut in the middle, then once you finish, work on smoothing this 4 uneven initial cuts so you salvage the last two central slabs.) Let me know if you have any question.
Thank you. Yes, compared to many we are novices. But, we learn fast! Thanks for the tips. Wayne
we called this 'gun barreling ', I just bought the Frick I pulled lumber off of back in my 20s (80s)... HB
Yes... anything to make it smaller! Thanks for watching
You're right; it's a long video. A longer one would show all of the effort required to get the log down to a size that the mill can handle. I would recommend the longer version and consider making a Part 1 and Part 2 pair of videos.
Good job on a hard log.
Dave.
Dave, I though about doing that. I have a longer version ready to publish, I'm still trying to learn what interests people and what they want to watch! I think part 1 and 2 with less cutting might work, I'll try that next week! Thanks!
@@WaynesWorldGarage Personally, I am interested in all aspects of running a sawmill; both circular and band. One thing that's disappointing is when a video bypasses something interesting like log handling. Even thought I couldn't see it in the video I knew you struggled mightily to turn that monster log. The next log on deck looks just as challenging as this one. Don't cut the cutting too much, though.
Just a thought; a longer cant hook might be in order for larger logs.
After working at a Frick Mill for a long time in my opinion y'all had way to many bosses. There is one boss and that's the sawyer. My old crew would have had that log sawed in 15 minutes tops.
Don, Thanks for the feedback! We were fortunate enough to have the guy who used to be the sawyer and set this mill up stop by a few weeks ago. He pretty much said the same thing. Although, his comment was more on the debris laying all around and the sawyers job is to make sure we clean up. So.... The last few weeks we've been cleaning things up. We probably removed 15 yards of sawdust. Also, since this is a volunteer group, we're not in a rush to make boards all the time, part of it is a social get together where we babble and cackle and talk about the current state of whatever we feel like.
But... When it comes to safety, message received. And we're working on that. When we were lifting some 6,000# logs I made it clear that only one person is in charge....
Hope you enjoy the videos.
Wayne
@@WaynesWorldGarage yes I did enjoy them. Love to see an old Frick Mill run. Couple years ago I sawed a red oak log 18' long that the hydraulics on the mill and a fair size skidsteer together could not pick up and load. Had to borrow a big case Construction loader to pick up. That one took a bit to saw.
Oh, thanks for sharing very interesting.
you're welcome! thanks for stopping by.
Why hasn't anyone watch old milling methods of rolling large logs with cables and winches?
So... I agree 100%. But.... since I'm not on the log rolling end... and these logs are not that big....they guys like to do it with the cant hooks! It keeps one fit....
@@WaynesWorldGarage safer and more controlled with winch. But so be it, keep at it.😃
Really enjoyed the video. Thank You
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you. Wayne
I’ll be he swore at 27min
hmm...!!!!
Sorry, that was 22min
thanks
Looks like the blade is missing some teeth.
Randy, Good catch.... One is missing!
Wayne
@@WaynesWorldGarage Thanks, I kept noticing the teeth in the video looked different. My Grandpa had O Frick mill when I was just knee high to a tall Indian...miss those days.
Absolutely want the long version.
Thanks ed! No problem!
@@WaynesWorldGarage I can only speak for myself but I find it relaxing to watch what it takes to do what You do.
like to see the long video
Bob, thanks. I have a much longer version. I'm happy to post it if you think Anyone will watch it. Wayno
Yes! Definitely post the longer version
@@WaynesWorldGarage I would definitely watch the long version!
the sawyer was right! ya can’t turn a big log with the peavey way up in the air! ya need leverage- us grunts know simple physics 👍😀
OOPS us grunts forgot about knockin the carriage off track!🤔
John... yea, I think we'll use FricknJeep (AKA John's) idea and strap it down on these big ones. Good thing we had plenty of muscle last week to help!
Instead of slowly butchering that log maybe you should have sent it to Matt Cremona.
Yea, but what fun would that be!!