Didn't disagree with anything in this video, I also think that Wilhelm Marx becoming President instead of Hindenburg was the major POD that could have saved Weimar. However, I think the video would have been more interesting if you'd still have had the Depression happen, but find out how Weimar could have survived regardless, with the Weimar Coalition doing its own version of FDR's New Deal. I saw a good timeline about Hugo Eckener, a German celebrity who invented the Zeplin, winning the Presidency (he was encouraged to run OTL) and being like a Charles De Gaulle figure, who fixes a lot of Weimar's problems with instability through establishing more authoritarian democracy, whilst still preserving basic democratic freedoms and getting Germany out of the Depression through New Deal style economics.
You forgot a very important aspect: german irredentism. German claims on Poland (and to a lesser extent Lithuania) will remain a factor of instability in Europe. And with no Great Depression, France is more stable and more willing to try to keep the lid on german ambitions.
Man you aren't annoying. Kindly do a video on "What if Buddhism remained strong in western and central asia and indian subcontinent." What if the last Zoroastrian kings were tolerant to Buddhism?
What if Germany had adopted the cult of Makima, Revy, Cutie Honey, Marin Kitagawa, Trixie Tang, Judy Neutron, Marge Simpson, Wendy Corduroy, Lois Griffin, Sailor Moon and Maddie Fenton instead of Abrahamic shit?
liked the scenario, but it had some flaws- why would the soviets have invaded Manchuria? how would the soviets get nukes without spying on the progress of the Americans who you'd stated would've never kept working on nukes? what happened to the communists in France? Spain falling to communism surely couldn't have helped- or the communists in Germany? you'd stated the german communists would've gained more clout, they couldn't have just dissapeared Japan also might not have attacked south into the south pacific- a big reason they did in our time was because the americans and british were blockading them, and they only started after the japanese seized French Indochina from Vichy; it's the same with the Dutch holdings in the reigon circling back to the communists in Spain and France- how would a Communist Spain have supported the west against the communists? also it's a minor thing but at 7:26 the Black Sea is land lmao regardless, it was a great video and one better then I could put together myself. I really hope I get to see more EDIT: this paragraph got answered in the discord server, join it to see what the answer was
Most people would see it as the 'good ending' and on the surface it is. But if you look deeper you realise this timeline has far more oppressive and longer colonialism than our timeline. 2nd, I don't see why the West won't join Japan's side if Japan promises to keep the Soviets in check knithe far east. In return Japan gets to colonise Korea and East China while British India expands into Tibet and Yunan.
Fascism is a very broad term that many have attempted to define strictly however few definitions fully fit. The most agreed upon definition involves militarism and hyper nationalism, Germany being a perfect example. If you are using the definition of the textbook ideology of fascism as layed out by Mussolini than yes you are correct. However language evolves and I believed fascism to be an apt description for Germany during this period, though I can understand a desire to stick to stricter definition.
@@ThatAnnoyingAmerican _"Fas cism is a very broad term "_ It was a socia list ideology and Hegelian philosophy based on national syndi calism. It rejected individualism, capita lism, liberalism/democracy, and mar xism, in which the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
@@ThatAnnoyingAmerican _"However language evolves and I believed fascism to be an apt description for Germ any during this period"_ Both Hitl er and Mussolini were very clear that their ideologies were different. Hitl er never referred to his ideology as fasc ist nor did Mu ssolini ever refer to Hit ler's ideology as fas cism. They have always been two completely separate things.
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. it comes down to the fact that there have really evolved two words used by historians. Fascism and fascism, Fascism the ideology and fascism the classification. If I were to describe the nations of Spain, Italy and Germany during the 1930s the most apt and easy of use term would be fascism. In the same way you would connect Catholicism and Greek orthodoxy or Lutheranism with the term Christianity. Such terms make historical synthesis easier. But of course that’s just how I operate and view it.
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Didn't disagree with anything in this video, I also think that Wilhelm Marx becoming President instead of Hindenburg was the major POD that could have saved Weimar. However, I think the video would have been more interesting if you'd still have had the Depression happen, but find out how Weimar could have survived regardless, with the Weimar Coalition doing its own version of FDR's New Deal.
I saw a good timeline about Hugo Eckener, a German celebrity who invented the Zeplin, winning the Presidency (he was encouraged to run OTL) and being like a Charles De Gaulle figure, who fixes a lot of Weimar's problems with instability through establishing more authoritarian democracy, whilst still preserving basic democratic freedoms and getting Germany out of the Depression through New Deal style economics.
You kinda sound like young Cody from alternate history hub
You forgot a very important aspect: german irredentism.
German claims on Poland (and to a lesser extent Lithuania) will remain a factor of instability in Europe.
And with no Great Depression, France is more stable and more willing to try to keep the lid on german ambitions.
Points for making Wilhelm Marx Reichspräsident. That would have been a massive boon for German democracy and stability.
Man you aren't annoying. Kindly do a video on "What if Buddhism remained strong in western and central asia and indian subcontinent." What if the last Zoroastrian kings were tolerant to Buddhism?
What if Germany had adopted the cult of Makima, Revy, Cutie Honey, Marin Kitagawa, Trixie Tang, Judy Neutron, Marge Simpson, Wendy Corduroy, Lois Griffin, Sailor Moon and Maddie Fenton instead of Abrahamic shit?
liked the scenario, but it had some flaws-
why would the soviets have invaded Manchuria?
how would the soviets get nukes without spying on the progress of the Americans who you'd stated would've never kept working on nukes?
what happened to the communists in France? Spain falling to communism surely couldn't have helped- or the communists in Germany? you'd stated the german communists would've gained more clout, they couldn't have just dissapeared
Japan also might not have attacked south into the south pacific- a big reason they did in our time was because the americans and british were blockading them, and they only started after the japanese seized French Indochina from Vichy; it's the same with the Dutch holdings in the reigon
circling back to the communists in Spain and France- how would a Communist Spain have supported the west against the communists?
also it's a minor thing but at 7:26 the Black Sea is land lmao
regardless, it was a great video and one better then I could put together myself. I really hope I get to see more
EDIT: this paragraph got answered in the discord server, join it to see what the answer was
Ww2 still happen but with Soviet Union.
Most people would see it as the 'good ending' and on the surface it is.
But if you look deeper you realise this timeline has far more oppressive and longer colonialism than our timeline.
2nd, I don't see why the West won't join Japan's side if Japan promises to keep the Soviets in check knithe far east.
In return Japan gets to colonise Korea and East China while British India expands into Tibet and Yunan.
Agree one hundred percent on the first point. I didn’t reiterate in this video but I touched on it in “what if Germany never existed”
Because of the US, they opposed the War in China and imposed heavy trade restrictions on them.
I think a few more decades of Dysfunctional, already quaking Empires is worth the preservation of tens of millions of lives.
Isn't this the plot of Red Alert 1?
i think the spanish facist loosing this is still very unlikely
Yo Please do what If Fidel Castro Lived?
Like forever? He made it pretty old
@@ThatAnnoyingAmerican No I Mean Until the Until the Late 2020s or More?
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And Rhineland is still demilitarized
Well they never fell to fas cism. They fell to national socia lism. Two different ideologies.
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Fascism is a very broad term that many have attempted to define strictly however few definitions fully fit. The most agreed upon definition involves militarism and hyper nationalism, Germany being a perfect example. If you are using the definition of the textbook ideology of fascism as layed out by Mussolini than yes you are correct. However language evolves and I believed fascism to be an apt description for Germany during this period, though I can understand a desire to stick to stricter definition.
@@ThatAnnoyingAmerican _"Fas cism is a very broad term "_
It was a socia list ideology and Hegelian philosophy based on national syndi calism. It rejected individualism, capita lism, liberalism/democracy, and mar xism, in which the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
@@ThatAnnoyingAmerican _"However language evolves and I believed fascism to be an apt description for Germ any during this period"_
Both Hitl er and Mussolini were very clear that their ideologies were different. Hitl er never referred to his ideology as fasc ist nor did Mu ssolini ever refer to Hit ler's ideology as fas cism. They have always been two completely separate things.
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. it comes down to the fact that there have really evolved two words used by historians. Fascism and fascism, Fascism the ideology and fascism the classification. If I were to describe the nations of Spain, Italy and Germany during the 1930s the most apt and easy of use term would be fascism. In the same way you would connect Catholicism and Greek orthodoxy or Lutheranism with the term Christianity. Such terms make historical synthesis easier. But of course that’s just how I operate and view it.
"fell"?
So worse.