I am the only one that believe that the Tripedacus Council should had appeared more in the show, perhaps as the final villains of the third season or as the villains of Beast Machines?
Also it might be interesting to see the true colors of the Maximal elders who are particularly mentioned to be unmerciful rulers every time in the show.
@@zeppelincraft1443 This is gonna be hard to stomach but...the elders are Autobots. Ironhide, Prowl, and the original Silverbolt. The specifics vary, but the end result is that they ended up as a singular being, a combiner called Magnaboss, who leads the Maximal High Council. It's rough seeing them do shit so shady, but it's in line with the Prowl part of Magnaboss' personality at least
@@samuelwithers2221 My guess they are the ones that causes all the Predacons to be treated like second-class citizens. Still, it would have been interesting if that would be the plot of Beast Machines, where the main antagonists are the Maximal High Council. And Optimus Primal and his team, along with Beast Wars' Megatron and the other Predacons, banded together to bring down the High Council. It would have much more interesting Megatron has a change of heart near the climax of the show. And then there might be a Maximal, who is actually Rodimus Prime until he was reformatted, is the leader of the resistance, where both Predacons and Maximals too resented the new age that was created by the Maximal High Council.
@@Isaac-gh5ku Rodimus is actually alive by the time of Beast Machines and led a resistance team called the Wreckers in a comic series going on alongside and after the show. And Magnaboss and the entire Maximal High Council ended up getting killed when Unicron invaded the planet a year after Beast Machines.
Amazingly the council still fits their toy bios fairly well, cicadacon proves his cunning by having that satellite explode “by accident” to keep the maximals from detecting the transwarp wave, Ram Horn shows his singleminded approach by reminding his colleagues about the “long con” they were working towards, and sea clamp maintains his stoic nature through the whole thing.
Notice how the Tripredacus council's faces are reused assets from other characters? The one on the right is based on Megatron The one in the middle is based on Rattrap The one on the left is based on Transmutate
Based on some truly rough resemblances to their toys, Megatron-face is most likely Cicadacon, Rattrap-face is Ram Horn, and Transmutate-face is Sea Clamp
The irony of ravage being rebuilt in the form size of a Predacons and still had his tape deck altform but mass shifted to I guess a traditional human tech tape cassette keeping the OG G1 transform sound and not required a command code to switch modes robot to alt mode. Just loved his heavy Russian accent not knowing the voice actor for him. I was always thinking about what other Decepticons generals who were given amnesty after the war. Who they were including Ravage.
"Ever since the Autobots defeated our Decepticon ancestors, we Predacons have worked secretly towards the day when we might rise up and take what is rightfully ours!" (flash forward to Season 3) Tarantulas: "Only those descended from Autobots or Decepticons. But I and the Tripredacus Council have different origins." So are the Predacons being goaded to avenge themselves by aliens posing as Cybertronian?
Either could be wrong about their origins, the council and Tarantulus may be descended from other Quintesson robots that became transformers like the Sharkticons and Allicons or from Liege Maximo's Cybertronian Empire.
Since Beast Wars uses the original cartoon as well as the marvel comics as it's backstory, they're probably descendants form the Cyberonian Empire from G2 comics.
Unicron spawn. So if you go by the cartoon. They where probably created in some way by the guy who created unicron and omnicron. Though more likely unicron had created spawn before his defeat.
They might have been created by Omicron, but it's a little vague. They could be offshoots of the Old Cybertronian Empire like Liege Maximo or something.
Remember the transwarp wave came from the transwarp cell that was on Primal’s status pod when it exploded destroying the alien machine at the end of season 1. Tarantulas was the one that installed the cell in pod.
I'm guessing Megatron snuffed the Tripedacus Council's sparks when he took over Cybertron. In the end, he achieved what they were "patiently" waiting for.
@@Prime92 What if Megatron sent a fake distress signal to them as a trap? I've got absolutely no proof to support this idea, but it'd totally be in character for Megatron.
@@Prime92 They were never seen again after Beast Machines, not even in the sequel comics where shit got really crazy, so I always assumed Megs put them down for good
@Slimine S7 At the same time while Beast Machines was a direct sequel to Beast Wars, I think I remember the writers admitting that they never actually saw Beast Wars
I hope someday some fan group or someone does some satam season 3 project where we get a proper follow-up to this tripred council subplot and not have them be beaten by megatron off screen.
@@okamijubei except that raises even more questions like how did megatron even overthrew the council since he was one transformer against a entire planet.
@@TevyaSmolka He probably rally up the other Predacons by telling them that the Council are incompetent and scandalous and selling out to the Maximals and such propaganda. Which leads to a revolution which of course leads Megatron to double cross his own kind and the Decepticons.
I wish the Quintssesons would had appeared or mentioned in Beast Wars. And what do you mean being descended from Unicron? I thought every predacon were decepticon succesors (even some decepticons became predacons eventually).
@@andrewgan557 whoa! Never noticed that! Maybe they are related to the Quints afterall? Maybe a Quint got mixed with the Cybertronians some time before BW but after G1?
thank you. crossing off my list of collected action figures and questioning why these guys are listed as characters in the show when I could never remember seeing them. I would consider this a cameo really
In one fan fiction, the Maximal 'council of elders' were converted Autobots, unsurprisingly they were G1 Ironhide, Prowl and Silverbolt, the three components of Magnaboss. Makes sense that the elders be 'Autobots', just too bad Beast Machines saw Cybertron decimated and the Predacons were a complete no show.
I didn't even think about that. Megatrons crew were nowhere near the only predacons, there were several of them so how come in beast machines they acted like Megatron was the only one?
Ravage was so badass in Beast Wars. It was so cool to see him again after G1. Also if your sad about his "death" i believe he was revived in the comics
I think it was the Binaltech comics where scientists discovered Ravage's ship and forced them to make him a new body where he then altered the events of the movie by placing the entire Decepticon army in a pocket dimension leaving the Autobots to face Unicron all alone and then once he was defeated bring the entire army back to wipe out the weakened Autobot forces and it worked until one flipped the switch to turn off all Transformers.
Ever notice how the guy on the right just looks and kinda sounds like a weird red megatron? I occasionally thought they'd go somewhere with that back in the day but they never did.
Not a member, but like Ravage, he was an agent for the Council, a member of their secret police, which is why he joined Ravage. He and the Council were also said to be descended from Unicron’s Transformers instead of Decepticons so Megatron’s time travel shenanigans wouldn’t affect him
It would have been awesome if the Tripredacus Council members looked more like their toy iterations and they actually fought later on in this show. Tripredacus in his combined mode could have been like the final boss and maybe they could have fit Magnaboss in there somehow (whilst changing eagle Silverbolt's name obviously).
Obviously Ravage never had intentions of rescuing the Maximals, but what was his original plan after taking Megatron's life? would he just kill all the Maximals or strand them?
As Megatron said, "I am not naive. You have no intention of returning me, or any of us, to Cybertron alive." I'm guessing while Megatron was the primary target, Ravage's mission was to kill anyone who might threaten the Tripedicus Council's place in the timeline, including the Maximals.
From The Agenda Part 1. Also technically these guys made it into the TV series from the toyline as they were sold as the Ultra Team Tripredacus. One of the best additions to the storyline was the Tripredacus Council and Ravage returning. Shame he met his demise in the process.
I really dislike that we never got to learn more about these guys in Beast Machines, i imagine Megatron got his revenge on them when he took over, but it would have been nice to see them be official announce themselves as the spawn of Unicron in the series
I'm sure Ravage could have still being repaired after his ship exploded, but when his ship's missile hit Rampage, the second explosion should have damaged him beyond repair thus killing him definitely.
@@Dav-zy1dw On the part of ravage being repaired the udon comics covered that as an extra part of the storyline.Dont know if it got fully canon,they tried to add extra events before beast machines it even involved Leo convoy.bringing him into the American continuaty.
After all this time, and now being in 2021, I always thought about this scene with the 3 predicons. The war is over, and after a long battle the autobots won. After every show movie game and anything else.
I once had an idea for a proper beast wars 2. So unlike in the original Megatron fails to break free of the shuttle. When the maximals return they are greeted by Lio Prime supreme commander of the maximals Optimus Primal’s mentor. During the debrief he reveals that the high council are suppressing what happened on earth because Megatron had become a symbol to the predacons. While this is going on three mysterious predacons free Megatron and hand him a device. Megatron and his liberators promptly escape. The maximal high council then sends Lio prime and primal along with a squad of elite guard to arrest Megatron and his allies. During the pursuit Primal recognizes Megatron allies as Scorpinok, Terrasaur, and Waspinator Primal is surprised because the three of them disappeared during the beast wars. Making a remark that Terrasaur and Scorpinok were lost during the transwarp wave and Waspinator was supposedly killed at the end of the beast wars. Ultimately the four elude the maximals. That would be part 1 of the premier. As the Predacons make their way to their target. The maximals allow primals troops to join the hunt since the elite guard have been outfoxed. There they figure Megatron is on his way to Vector Sigma realizing Megatron is planning something Cybertron wide the attempt to head him off. To late Megatron and his predacons made their way to Vector Sigma which is now a massive temple that oversees the creation of new transformers. Megatron and his predacons are shocked to discover Dinobot is there with guardians of Vector Sugma. During the clash the guardians are overpowered by the predacons with Megatron escaping into the central computer core. The maximals arrive and are surprised to see Dinobot. The Maximals then start fighting the predacons while primal and Lio prime confront Megatron. In the master control Megatron reveals to Primal the beast wars had a secondary objective that Megatron had been building towards. He had been intentionally using the maximals and predacons as test subjects into creating a new breed of cybertronian the transmetal 3’s. He reveals that primals accident and transwarp wave did exactly what it was supposed to do. Then after Primal absorbed primes energy inspired him to create the transmetal 2’s. Then he explains how he resurrected Terrasaur and Scorpinok as transmetal 3’s and instructed them to make their way to cybertron in the event of his defeat and await his arrival. As Megatron tries to shoot Optimus Lio prime jumps in the way taking the blow. Megatron then activates his device which emits a reformatting wave across the planet Terrasaur and Scorpinok grab Megatron and Waspinator and escape as they begin reformatting. Part 2 end Part 3: the maximals awaken after the reformatting. Take in their new forms. Rattrap is slightly bigger with a rat and car alt mode, black arachnia is now a helicopter spider, silverbolt is now a hover jet wolf eagle, rhinox is an hover tank rhino, cheetor is a race car cheetah, Dinobot is a raptor motorcycle, primal is actually back to his old size a jet monkey with his excess mass becoming a apex armor. Then when they take Lio prime back to cybertropolis for treatment Dinobot explains when he died he was reborn on cybertron at the well of all sparks saying he was told his time is not done. Lio Prime the summon primal then summons Optimus primal where he grants him the matrix of leadership telling him he will be the new supreme commander if the maximals. Part 3 end.
Reaching prehistoric Earth in the state that the two factions were warring on required transwarping, and the only cruiser they had was destroyed with Ravage. They may have assumed that he either wiped them all out or failed & decided to wait and see what happened next…only for Megatron to conquer all of Cybertron.
@@tlk4554 Like tlk said, the tech for transwarping was expensive and rare, the one cruiser the predacons were able to build was probably done at great expense and was as they say in the video a prototype, they probably assumed it either failed, or ravage did, and it would take quite some time for them to construct another.
E enquanto eles chegavam a uma conclusão, e eventualmente decidiam construir um novo cruzador, os Maximals já estavam retornando a Cyrbertron, levando Megatron como prisioneiro. A escalada dos eventos realmente foi muita rápida. Assim tivemos a saga dos Beast Machines e o desenvolvimento de toda sua trama.
Ramhorn's the bat eared one recycling Rattrap's S1 face, Sea Clamp's the fin headed one with the moustached esque mouth & Cicadacon is the mismatch eyed one recycling Megs face who has mandible like bits jutting outta his scalp.
@@thedude9941not even. It's revealed by Tarantulas at the end of the series that they lied about being descendants of the Decepticons and tried to conquer Cybertron for a third party.
@@stevensteviepryde5888 they are all descendent from Unicron and while they want to seize control of cybertron, Megatron going rogue hinders their plans because now they can't move in secret without the maximal elders knowing as they'd probably keep security on them and all predacons tighter
Cuz he knows Ravage, probably. He clearly has connections to higher maximal powers, especially since he was carrying Rampage's spark on an unassuming exploration vessel designed to jettison protoforms to uninhabited worlds. It's a shame this part of primal was never explored
So... nobody wanna talk about the silly hanging light on that predacon space station? Are they supposed to do their councils during some poker nights or something?
Well, the council did need to save on electricity, and a single hanging light bulb was the best way to do it. Fun fact which means or may not be real, when they're not doing counselling work: those three play cybertronians strip poker😂
"Hey guys, what do we want to do with this really big room?" "Let's install a single, hanging light source and put in a really, REALLY tall table. You know, the one we've been saving for this occasion."
It's curious what Tarantulos says on episode 50, that he and the Tripedacus Council are not descendants of the Decepticons and Autobots. I think the animators' original idea was to explain this in "Beast Machines" but since Hasbro and Mainframe produced "Beast Machines" with a different team from "Beast Wars", this idea ended up being forgotten.
My little fanon is that Tarantulas and the Tripredacus Council actually AREN'T the descendants of the Decepticons exactly, but rather the descendants of the G1 Insecticons, hence their preference for ingesting matter over direct energon refueling. They mistakenly believe they're the descendants of the Unicronian reformatted Decepticons, ergo the 'spawn of Unicron' epithet.
@@goldarnit this actually is the canonical origin for them the tripedacus council as well as Tarantulas and a hand full of others are descendent from Unicron, there's even an official prequel comic that shows what happened at the twilight days of the great war
@@ShanaReviewsyou're only half-right. Its mentioned somewhere that the Tripardicus council members are descendants of the Quintessons and thats why you see them float in the meeting room just like their ancestors. And since Quintessons are Unicrons creations, i'd say that makes the Triperdicus council deacendants of Unicron himself.
@@victorfergn Oh they sold their toys alright, seeing as their cameo served no purpose other than just being there for a few minutes and you don't see or hear from them again. At least Beast Wars 2 anime did a better job using those 3, unlike this CGI show.
@@victorfergn yeah but I'd expect them to play a bigger role in other episodes, not just show them in this episode and then "poof" they are not seen or heard from again.
@@jedibattlemasterkos in beast machines, the predacons are never mentioned. Primal only mentions saving the trapped maximals. The first time I watched it, I thought nightscreech was a predacon. I thought that made sense for his character, but even he is a maximal.
Unicorn is already declared as the main villain, and given hasbro's track record with beast wars besides the original cartoon, their reimagined as contemporaries instead of future descendants!
I still Wonder who IS the ancestors of Tarantulas and The Tripredacus Council,are they descendents of Unicron?, The Quintessons?, or someone else's descendents?.
Tarantulas was called unicorns spawn was it a insult or something deeper It's rumored the t council was originally g1 cons that served Megatron and had their bodies reformatted The timelines give many versions
@@chrisedwards3214. Blame Hasbro for the huge missed opportunity. There's already a ton of spoon feed expositional dialogue, like when that tripedacus council member blabbed about their situation with the maximals in an"as you know"fashion. But rather than letting the show staff fallow through with it, they did a completely different series and derailing things!
I’ve always suspected the Quintessons. The council wants to conquer Cybertron themselves and eliminate the Autobots, Decepticons, Maximals and Predacons all in one fell swoop as they partially orchestrated Megatron’s time shenanigans Beast Wars is a G1 continuity acting as a distant sequel to the original cartoon, meaning that the Quintessons most likely existed with the same backstory of creating the Cybertronians before their creations turned on them, and spending the next few millennia trying to overthrow them and rule Cybertron. I feel it was only natural for the Quintessons to secretly participate in the great upgrade that saw the birth of Maximals and Predacons, and infiltrate society to covertly usurp it from within.
I love how Optimus generally is tolerant of Rattrap, generally the diplomat, and generally able to smooth things over. *facepalm* shut up rat trap. He knows precisely how Fucked things are if ravage is here.
Alr, i'll try to explain this The Tripedacus Council is indeed descended from Unicron, but it was actually Megatron who called Tarantulas "spawn of Unicron" that, however was simply his way of calling Tarantulas a SoB but was retconned due to many people misunderstanding that line
I havemt watched this show in such a long time, did the tripreadecus combiner even show up in the show cause i dont even remember if magnaboss did either
Tripredacus Council talking to Galavar (later known as BW Megatron) before he time travelled to prehistoric Earth and started the Beast Wars. ua-cam.com/video/wpopxdJ1gVI/v-deo.htmlsi=Un9sK3ll3rEwzGKs
They definitely aren't afraid of him. If anything, they're looking down on him. While they acknowledge his skill, they also think he's too unpredictable to be the face of the Predacons, and that makes him more trouble than his talents are worth.
Megatron is too much of a wild card, because he acts on his own and isn't a team player that can't control and predict his actions despite them acknowledging that he's very brilliant. from what we learn the Predacons aren't treated well on cybertron, the Tripredacus council is trying to take advantage of this so they can seize power in service to their creator, Unicron, but because Megatron acts on his own it is causing the Maximal Elders to be more suspicious of them and makes it harder for the Tripredacus council to move about in secret. they don't fear him, they are annoyed with him
@SkyOfflaneOnlyIt was written by people who had no idea what transformers were or the idea of "robots in disguise". Not only that but they hadn't seen beast wars either which is why the characters were all... Off.
There's a surprising amount of Decepticons still running around. Ravage, Laserbeak, Buzzsaw (the birds both got roasted, unfortunately), Divebomb, Razorclaw, Flamewar, Thundercracker, Sinnertwin, and several hundred other Decepticons are all still active, whether as civilians, agents, insurgents, or war prisoners
@@chrisedwards3214 Yes, this was the case with Ravage, Buzzsaw, and Laserbeak. Others like Thundercracker and Sinnertwin were war prisoners kept in containment. Divebomb and Razorclaw were underground insurgents
I always saw Tarantulas as a descendant of ShockWave. Purple, one yellow eye, scientist, are the similarities that hinted that to me. Then when he tries to blow up the Ark, won't erase him, his great-grandaddy (or how many generations) is still safe and sound.
That honestly just felt like it was just shoehorned in at the last minute. It doesn't even make sense when we just heard that the Deceptions are their ancestors.
there's something i never understood (or is it a script hole) It is assumed that the story takes place in the land of millions of years ago when cybertron was devastated and neither predacon nor maximal exist yet (and the G1 Transformers were asleep on earth), so how did the transmetal wave arrive at contemporary cybertron of the maximal and predacon? Perhaps it is the same wave that arrived millions of years later, there it would be understood ... but how were they able to send an Agent at the same time millions of years ago to the past?
The Trans-warp portal the cast used that made them end up on earth left a kind of portal that the wave used to arrived at cybertron in the future and when the Agent went to follow the source he hit the same portal and arrived in past earth.
Remember in beast machines megatron took control of the planet. And the predacon council did try to kill him by sending ravage. So when megatron got back home his first job would be to 86 the council when he took over.
They use simple and reused character models and don't show them clearly so they can save on costs. Character models are expensive and Mainframe Entertainment wasn't the most wealthy studio.
They’re evil since they planned on overthrowing the Maximals and reclaiming Cybertron. The only problem is that they’re very cautious about how they go about doing it. And other Predacons like Megatron and Magmatron think they plan too slowly. And any opportunity they have of retaking Cybertron will be far too late.
Something that never made sense about this. They keep talking about being able to track when the wave would reach Cybertron like it's in real time. But they traveled back in time to get to Earth in the first place and are thousands of years in the past relative to when they left Cybertron. They are completely out of sync with the normal timeline so if the wave reached Cybertron when they said it did then it would be thousands of years before they ever left, before the Maximals and Predicons were even around. If the Wave traveled forward in time as they described, then the concept of saying "its should get there now" is meaningless. It will get there thousands of years in the future and then the Maximals (or in this case Predacons) will send help who will arrive whenever their time machines are set to arrive. Time travel really makes things complicated -__-
There is a leftover portal that the cast used in the first episode that causes anything that goes near it to travel back and forth through time. That how the wave reach future cybertron and, when the Agent went to follow the wave source, hit the same portal and travel to the past. It actually shown later on. Here it is around the 2 minute mark: ua-cam.com/video/ZI9X2UXZFo4/v-deo.html
@@lightdragoon88 In that case then it doesn't make sense for Rhinox to say that the wave travels through space AND TIME. Because the portal takes care of the time part.
@@km91420 Rhinox didn't mention anything about a portal. The way he said it implied that the wave itself inherently traveled through space and time without the aid of a pre-existing time portal. I'm not saying the portal wasn't the source, just that the way it was written was confusing.
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Just seeing the other Predacons fumble around on the station was a good laugh.
I am the only one that believe that the Tripedacus Council should had appeared more in the show, perhaps as the final villains of the third season or as the villains of Beast Machines?
Also it might be interesting to see the true colors of the Maximal elders who are particularly mentioned to be unmerciful rulers every time in the show.
@@zeppelincraft1443 Yeah that would have been fun too
@@zeppelincraft1443 This is gonna be hard to stomach but...the elders are Autobots. Ironhide, Prowl, and the original Silverbolt. The specifics vary, but the end result is that they ended up as a singular being, a combiner called Magnaboss, who leads the Maximal High Council. It's rough seeing them do shit so shady, but it's in line with the Prowl part of Magnaboss' personality at least
@@samuelwithers2221 My guess they are the ones that causes all the Predacons to be treated like second-class citizens.
Still, it would have been interesting if that would be the plot of Beast Machines, where the main antagonists are the Maximal High Council. And Optimus Primal and his team, along with Beast Wars' Megatron and the other Predacons, banded together to bring down the High Council. It would have much more interesting Megatron has a change of heart near the climax of the show.
And then there might be a Maximal, who is actually Rodimus Prime until he was reformatted, is the leader of the resistance, where both Predacons and Maximals too resented the new age that was created by the Maximal High Council.
@@Isaac-gh5ku Rodimus is actually alive by the time of Beast Machines and led a resistance team called the Wreckers in a comic series going on alongside and after the show. And Magnaboss and the entire Maximal High Council ended up getting killed when Unicron invaded the planet a year after Beast Machines.
Amazingly the council still fits their toy bios fairly well, cicadacon proves his cunning by having that satellite explode “by accident” to keep the maximals from detecting the transwarp wave, Ram Horn shows his singleminded approach by reminding his colleagues about the “long con” they were working towards, and sea clamp maintains his stoic nature through the whole thing.
And they all seem as though they already know what the others are thinking, fitting considering the toys can combine.
@@InfiniteDeathLoop Which anime did they appear? Beast Wars 2 or Neo?
I love how the Tripedicus Council have a dinky light bulb lamp hanging over their conference table, and no chairs.
It’s really hard to get funding these days, so they have to stretch the budget out to get the bare basics.
The chair budget went towards those elevators that ominously raised them through the floor to the table's height.
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This show went deep in the history and aftermath of the great War. These three here always interested me in how life was being that the autobots won.
I wish they told how Optimus prime won the great war it's hinted he sacrificed himself once again
the writing was leaps and bounds above genius.
DECEPTICONS FOREVER
The ONLY thing worse, than a stinkin' 'Pred, is a stinking DECEPTICON!
@@LockeLynxShut up Rattrap!
Notice how the Tripredacus council's faces are reused assets from other characters?
The one on the right is based on Megatron
The one in the middle is based on Rattrap
The one on the left is based on Transmutate
1:15 the megatron look alike also said "yeessss"
@@Eobard_Wells. Imagine if they mixed the cgi with digital ink i.e. pre spiderverse!
Based on some truly rough resemblances to their toys, Megatron-face is most likely Cicadacon, Rattrap-face is Ram Horn, and Transmutate-face is Sea Clamp
@@TheTrailburner I knew the one on he right is based on Megatron.
The other two I haven’t noticed
So what was their long-game secret 🤫 plan?
@@UkieCanuckPatriot Political conspiracy against the Maximal Government on Cybertron, I believe.
Ah yes, Ram Horn, Sea Clamp and Cicadacon.
2:29 OH THANK GOD! As much as I love this scene, that swinging lamp was driving me absolutely insane!!
They should've been the main villains for beast machines
Can we all just shame Cybertrons detection skills considering a MASSIVE shockwave just grazed its atmosphere and alerted NO ONE.
The irony of ravage being rebuilt in the form size of a Predacons and still had his tape deck altform but mass shifted to I guess a traditional human tech tape cassette keeping the OG G1 transform sound and not required a command code to switch modes robot to alt mode. Just loved his heavy Russian accent not knowing the voice actor for him. I was always thinking about what other Decepticons generals who were given amnesty after the war. Who they were including Ravage.
I liked to imagine blitzwing was since he got kicked out of the decepticons in g1 and never showed up again.
"Ever since the Autobots defeated our Decepticon ancestors, we Predacons have worked secretly towards the day when we might rise up and take what is rightfully ours!"
(flash forward to Season 3)
Tarantulas: "Only those descended from Autobots or Decepticons. But I and the Tripredacus Council have different origins."
So are the Predacons being goaded to avenge themselves by aliens posing as Cybertronian?
Either could be wrong about their origins, the council and Tarantulus may be descended from other Quintesson robots that became transformers like the Sharkticons and Allicons or from Liege Maximo's Cybertronian Empire.
Since Beast Wars uses the original cartoon as well as the marvel comics as it's backstory, they're probably descendants form the Cyberonian Empire from G2 comics.
Unicron spawn. So if you go by the cartoon. They where probably created in some way by the guy who created unicron and omnicron. Though more likely unicron had created spawn before his defeat.
They're connected to Unicron.
They might have been created by Omicron, but it's a little vague. They could be offshoots of the Old Cybertronian Empire like Liege Maximo or something.
*_"The transwarp wavefront that disrupted the station has been identified. Signature matches that of the ship stoen, by Megatron."_*
Remember the transwarp wave came from the transwarp cell that was on Primal’s status pod when it exploded destroying the alien machine at the end of season 1.
Tarantulas was the one that installed the cell in pod.
I'm guessing Megatron snuffed the Tripedacus Council's sparks when he took over Cybertron. In the end, he achieved what they were "patiently" waiting for.
No doubt did some real torture shit because they considered him a renegade, and with his massive ego he no doubt would take an insult to that
@@crimsondynamo615 The Tripredacus Council weren't on Cybertron. They were on a space station from what they showed in season 2.
@@Prime92 What if Megatron sent a fake distress signal to them as a trap? I've got absolutely no proof to support this idea, but it'd totally be in character for Megatron.
@@Prime92 They were never seen again after Beast Machines, not even in the sequel comics where shit got really crazy, so I always assumed Megs put them down for good
@Slimine S7 At the same time while Beast Machines was a direct sequel to Beast Wars, I think I remember the writers admitting that they never actually saw Beast Wars
I hope someday some fan group or someone does some satam season 3 project where we get a proper follow-up to this tripred council subplot and not have them be beaten by megatron off screen.
I agree cause this version of them was sorely lackluster.
i still wished we got more of the tripredicous council in a sequel because they are such a interesting group.
didn't know you were a beast wars and transformers fan lol
Yeah but likely Megatron have overthrown them between the End of Beast Wars and before the Maximals arrived at Cybertron.
@@okamijubei except that raises even more questions like how did megatron even overthrew the council since he was one transformer against a entire planet.
@@TevyaSmolka He probably rally up the other Predacons by telling them that the Council are incompetent and scandalous and selling out to the Maximals and such propaganda. Which leads to a revolution which of course leads Megatron to double cross his own kind and the Decepticons.
@@okamijubei okay i just wished we actually saw that in a proper sequel to beast wars
4:59 Damn Megatron, lay on the sarcasm a little thicker why don't you?
When all 3 of the council laugh I just hear Quintsessons chuckling.
That's why some fans think they are descended from them not Unicron.
Crazy if that's tru, but I think the only one that's a descendant of Unicron is that insecticon 🕷️
I wish the Quintssesons would had appeared or mentioned in Beast Wars. And what do you mean being descended from Unicron? I thought every predacon were decepticon succesors (even some decepticons became predacons eventually).
@@virtualpellot933 tarantulas mentioned that he and the tripredacus council were not descended from either autobots or decepticons.
@@andrewgan557 whoa! Never noticed that! Maybe they are related to the Quints afterall? Maybe a Quint got mixed with the Cybertronians some time before BW but after G1?
The first appearances of Cicadacon, Ram Horn, and Sea Clamp.
thank you. crossing off my list of collected action figures and questioning why these guys are listed as characters in the show when I could never remember seeing them. I would consider this a cameo really
Tarantulus is probably my favorite predacon, next to Black Arachnea, but damn I forgot he was a mole.
He could give starscream a run for his money in duplicity!
I think Megatron dealt with the tripredacus council when he conquered Cybertron in beast machines
Had to have done, no way he'd leave them running around when he was trying to harvest all the sparks.
Ravage went back to the past when he was deactivated only to die again then g1 ravage came back online four million years later
Actually his personal timeline loops back to the past to die before he was born/revived/whatever. It is a very common Time shenanigans trope.
Imagine digging up your own ancient corpse
only to come back alive in the comics
@@crimsondynamo615 strange ravage and stars cream, rumble, and ramjet traveled to the past when.they was considered deactivated before
No one:
People in Star Trek when a single blast attacks their ship: 0:23
ravage died in prehistoric earth where his other body was in stasis in the ark
In one fan fiction, the Maximal 'council of elders' were converted Autobots, unsurprisingly they were G1 Ironhide, Prowl and Silverbolt, the three components of Magnaboss.
Makes sense that the elders be 'Autobots', just too bad Beast Machines saw Cybertron decimated and the Predacons were a complete no show.
I didn't even think about that. Megatrons crew were nowhere near the only predacons, there were several of them so how come in beast machines they acted like Megatron was the only one?
How ?
In the beginning of the 1986 movie Ironhide and Prowl got slaughtered in the battle against a group of Decepticons .
Cicadacon: Terminate with extreme prejudice!
Beast Machines: Megatron already terminated with extreme prejudice!
Ravage was so badass in Beast Wars. It was so cool to see him again after G1. Also if your sad about his "death" i believe he was revived in the comics
I think it was the Binaltech comics where scientists discovered Ravage's ship and forced them to make him a new body where he then altered the events of the movie by placing the entire Decepticon army in a pocket dimension leaving the Autobots to face Unicron all alone and then once he was defeated bring the entire army back to wipe out the weakened Autobot forces and it worked until one flipped the switch to turn off all Transformers.
@@Webshooters1 I don't if that's true but in the 3h Comics tarantulas and ravage were revived.
The gathering yes and ascension
I miss this writing...
Animation may not have aged gracefully, but the writing defenitely has.
SOOO AGREED
I also miss these shows before they were hated by toxic Geewunners who are impersonated by Fandom Menace supporters.
Far better than Kingdom
Ever notice how the guy on the right just looks and kinda sounds like a weird red megatron? I occasionally thought they'd go somewhere with that back in the day but they never did.
They just reused his face model to cut down on resources.
@@GrimloxTv Yeah that's kinda obvious, but he even says "yes" in a similar inflection to megatron.
@Slimine S7 No, no, we do *not* acknowledge that pseudocanonical nonsense.
3:53 Rattrap gets it
he is right
3:58, now thats just Prime!
God I wish the Tripredacus Council were the OG Predacons.
I remember that tarantulas was part of the Tripredacus council.
Not a member, but like Ravage, he was an agent for the Council, a member of their secret police, which is why he joined Ravage. He and the Council were also said to be descended from Unicron’s Transformers instead of Decepticons so Megatron’s time travel shenanigans wouldn’t affect him
Initially it was the cybertronian empire from g2
if the Tripredacus Council is so cool, how come there's no Quadredacus Council?
I high recommend the video “Basics on Tripredacus”.
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Cheetor, "What is it big bot?”
Primal, "Not what. Who."
Cheetor, "Huh?"
3:15
After the Great War a few decepticons were granted amnesty, most have retired but rumor has it that one was reprogrammed and rebuilt as a Predacon.
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@@TigerWing141Ravage. 0_0
@@T-ZillaYT 3:44
@@TigerWing141The only thing worse than a stinkin Pred is a stinkin decepticon!
It would have been awesome if the Tripredacus Council members looked more like their toy iterations and they actually fought later on in this show. Tripredacus in his combined mode could have been like the final boss and maybe they could have fit Magnaboss in there somehow (whilst changing eagle Silverbolt's name obviously).
Two of the council guys look like Megatron and Rattrap. The Megs lookalike even says "yesss" in a similar way
The third one look like Transmutate
They just recycled a bunch of model parts for the trio becuz 90s CG
i always thought Predaking should have been on the council
It was the Predacons that formed Predaking that began the new Predacon faction. Shortly after the Tripredacus Council staged a coup and seized power.
Obviously Ravage never had intentions of rescuing the Maximals, but what was his original plan after taking Megatron's life? would he just kill all the Maximals or strand them?
Yes. Killing everybody on Earth and then going home.
Whatever his orders from the Tripredicus Council were, it couldn't have been good for the Maximals.
Probably, he had to cover the whole thing up so he probably would have just killed them all.
As Megatron said, "I am not naive. You have no intention of returning me, or any of us, to Cybertron alive." I'm guessing while Megatron was the primary target, Ravage's mission was to kill anyone who might threaten the Tripedicus Council's place in the timeline, including the Maximals.
No witnesses. Be Maximal or Predacon.
From The Agenda Part 1. Also technically these guys made it into the TV series from the toyline as they were sold as the Ultra Team Tripredacus. One of the best additions to the storyline was the Tripredacus Council and Ravage returning. Shame he met his demise in the process.
Notice BW Ravage’s head is modelled on Tigatron’s beast mode head?
No, but did you know this vision of ravage has a Russian accent?
I really dislike that we never got to learn more about these guys in Beast Machines, i imagine Megatron got his revenge on them when he took over, but it would have been nice to see them be official announce themselves as the spawn of Unicron in the series
Did Megatron yank the council’s spark during beast machines.
Probably
@@berandom2000 since he dislike all three of them.
I bet you he showed thwm the error od their ways and insulted them before torturing them i can imagine their deaths
They're never seen again, not even in the sequel comics, so...Megs probably put a permanent end to them
Personally I think they should have added more of this it’s way more interesting 🤔
Sea Clamp looks like a Bionicle Turaga.
one of them is voiced by a bionicle
I'm sure Ravage could have still being repaired after his ship exploded, but when his ship's missile hit Rampage, the second explosion should have damaged him beyond repair thus killing him definitely.
But Rampage is immortal like Deadpool.
@@zoltanperei4789 It's taking about Ravage dying, not Rampage
@@Dav-zy1dw On the part of ravage being repaired the udon comics covered that as an extra part of the storyline.Dont know if it got fully canon,they tried to add extra events before beast machines it even involved Leo convoy.bringing him into the American continuaty.
La mulți ani tuturor membrilor Consiliului Predacon!💙🚑🐊🐊🐊🐊
I wonder what happened to the Tripedacus Council in Beast Machines?
Megatron probably killed them for trying to stop him and were probably 3 of the sparks he absorbed at the end of Beast Machines
@@Halohunter553 They're literally never seen, or even mentioned, again after Beast Wars, so that's a safe bet.
Probably the same thing as the Maximal Council of Elders: their sparks were extracted.
@@Halohunter553 nah, they're not ON Cybertron when Megs took over. It's a safer bet they stayed in orbit and watched him take out the Maximal elders.
@@Noremac25 And they did nothing to regain their homeworld? Strange....
03:38 Nop, Optimus. Comrade Ravage!, t'vorish.
After all this time, and now being in 2021, I always thought about this scene with the 3 predicons. The war is over, and after a long battle the autobots won. After every show movie game and anything else.
Anyone else enjoying that the predacon leaders all sound like dinobot? Imagine dinobot was the protégé of one of them and defied his mentor
Well tarantulas is part of the tripredicus council.
I once had an idea for a proper beast wars 2. So unlike in the original Megatron fails to break free of the shuttle. When the maximals return they are greeted by Lio Prime supreme commander of the maximals Optimus Primal’s mentor. During the debrief he reveals that the high council are suppressing what happened on earth because Megatron had become a symbol to the predacons. While this is going on three mysterious predacons free Megatron and hand him a device. Megatron and his liberators promptly escape. The maximal high council then sends Lio prime and primal along with a squad of elite guard to arrest Megatron and his allies. During the pursuit Primal recognizes Megatron allies as Scorpinok, Terrasaur, and Waspinator Primal is surprised because the three of them disappeared during the beast wars. Making a remark that Terrasaur and Scorpinok were lost during the transwarp wave and Waspinator was supposedly killed at the end of the beast wars. Ultimately the four elude the maximals.
That would be part 1 of the premier.
As the Predacons make their way to their target. The maximals allow primals troops to join the hunt since the elite guard have been outfoxed. There they figure Megatron is on his way to Vector Sigma realizing Megatron is planning something Cybertron wide the attempt to head him off. To late Megatron and his predacons made their way to Vector Sigma which is now a massive temple that oversees the creation of new transformers. Megatron and his predacons are shocked to discover Dinobot is there with guardians of Vector Sugma. During the clash the guardians are overpowered by the predacons with Megatron escaping into the central computer core. The maximals arrive and are surprised to see Dinobot. The Maximals then start fighting the predacons while primal and Lio prime confront Megatron. In the master control Megatron reveals to Primal the beast wars had a secondary objective that Megatron had been building towards. He had been intentionally using the maximals and predacons as test subjects into creating a new breed of cybertronian the transmetal 3’s. He reveals that primals accident and transwarp wave did exactly what it was supposed to do. Then after Primal absorbed primes energy inspired him to create the transmetal 2’s. Then he explains how he resurrected Terrasaur and Scorpinok as transmetal 3’s and instructed them to make their way to cybertron in the event of his defeat and await his arrival. As Megatron tries to shoot Optimus Lio prime jumps in the way taking the blow. Megatron then activates his device which emits a reformatting wave across the planet Terrasaur and Scorpinok grab Megatron and Waspinator and escape as they begin reformatting. Part 2 end
Part 3: the maximals awaken after the reformatting. Take in their new forms. Rattrap is slightly bigger with a rat and car alt mode, black arachnia is now a helicopter spider, silverbolt is now a hover jet wolf eagle, rhinox is an hover tank rhino, cheetor is a race car cheetah, Dinobot is a raptor motorcycle, primal is actually back to his old size a jet monkey with his excess mass becoming a apex armor. Then when they take Lio prime back to cybertropolis for treatment Dinobot explains when he died he was reborn on cybertron at the well of all sparks saying he was told his time is not done. Lio Prime the summon primal then summons Optimus primal where he grants him the matrix of leadership telling him he will be the new supreme commander if the maximals.
Part 3 end.
Lio convoy was a maximal born far after optimus primal
So this plot point dont work
@@DragonBallsolosyourverse the only problem with this is beast machines renders that continuity invalid.
In the anime version, the Tripledacus are comic relief allies to Maximals.
Those were the Jointrons
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Japan: Dj,Motorarm and Gimlet
English: Cicadacon,Ram horn and sea clamp
Here's a question, after Ravage failed to return why didn't the Tripredacus Council send another agent?
Reaching prehistoric Earth in the state that the two factions were warring on required transwarping, and the only cruiser they had was destroyed with Ravage. They may have assumed that he either wiped them all out or failed & decided to wait and see what happened next…only for Megatron to conquer all of Cybertron.
they didn’t feel like it
@@tlk4554 Like tlk said, the tech for transwarping was expensive and rare, the one cruiser the predacons were able to build was probably done at great expense and was as they say in the video a prototype, they probably assumed it either failed, or ravage did, and it would take quite some time for them to construct another.
E enquanto eles chegavam a uma conclusão, e eventualmente decidiam construir um novo cruzador, os Maximals já estavam retornando a Cyrbertron, levando Megatron como prisioneiro.
A escalada dos eventos realmente foi muita rápida.
Assim tivemos a saga dos Beast Machines e o desenvolvimento de toda sua trama.
In the comic BW: The Gathering they sent Magmatron.
So...which one's Sea Clamp, which one's Cicadacon, and which one's Ram Horn?
Ramhorn's the bat eared one recycling Rattrap's S1 face, Sea Clamp's the fin headed one with the moustached esque mouth & Cicadacon is the mismatch eyed one recycling Megs face who has mandible like bits jutting outta his scalp.
@@alexlemonds2838 rumors are two of them was soundwave and shockeave recycled
Middle: Ram Horn
Right: Cicadacon
Left: Sea Clamp
I wish the Tri Predacus council wasn't evil tbh, though can't blame them. Maximals kind of screwed them over.
They aren't evil technically, they are simply a conquered people fighting for liberation.
@@thedude9941not even. It's revealed by Tarantulas at the end of the series that they lied about being descendants of the Decepticons and tried to conquer Cybertron for a third party.
@@stevensteviepryde5888 they are all descendent from Unicron and while they want to seize control of cybertron, Megatron going rogue hinders their plans because now they can't move in secret without the maximal elders knowing as they'd probably keep security on them and all predacons tighter
Why did Primal just assume it was a Decepticon turned Predacon that entered the Axalon without seeing him first?
Cuz he knows Ravage, probably. He clearly has connections to higher maximal powers, especially since he was carrying Rampage's spark on an unassuming exploration vessel designed to jettison protoforms to uninhabited worlds. It's a shame this part of primal was never explored
@ Never thought of that.
I knew the Tripredacus hiding something
So... nobody wanna talk about the silly hanging light on that predacon space station?
Are they supposed to do their councils during some poker nights or something?
Well, the council did need to save on electricity, and a single hanging light bulb was the best way to do it.
Fun fact which means or may not be real, when they're not doing counselling work: those three play cybertronians strip poker😂
"Hey guys, what do we want to do with this really big room?"
"Let's install a single, hanging light source and put in a really, REALLY tall table. You know, the one we've been saving for this occasion."
That's what they use the room for when they're not holding meetings on the progression of their evil plans.
Lmao at all the Autobots falling over
I think those were Preds
@@Karlos1234ifyThey were it was a Predacon outpost.
It's curious what Tarantulos says on episode 50, that he and the Tripedacus Council are not descendants of the Decepticons and Autobots. I think the animators' original idea was to explain this in "Beast Machines" but since Hasbro and Mainframe produced "Beast Machines" with a different team from "Beast Wars", this idea ended up being forgotten.
*Tarantulas.
My little fanon is that Tarantulas and the Tripredacus Council actually AREN'T the descendants of the Decepticons exactly, but rather the descendants of the G1 Insecticons, hence their preference for ingesting matter over direct energon refueling. They mistakenly believe they're the descendants of the Unicronian reformatted Decepticons, ergo the 'spawn of Unicron' epithet.
@@goldarnit this actually is the canonical origin for them
the tripedacus council as well as Tarantulas and a hand full of others are descendent from Unicron, there's even an official prequel comic that shows what happened at the twilight days of the great war
@@ShanaReviewsyou're only half-right. Its mentioned somewhere that the Tripardicus council members are descendants of the Quintessons and thats why you see them float in the meeting room just like their ancestors. And since Quintessons are Unicrons creations, i'd say that makes the Triperdicus council deacendants of Unicron himself.
@@DemoNinja79 how were the quintessons unicrons creation? That was a very old non canon draft from the movie before they were made seperate
I didn’t know that Batman was a predacon 😂
Batman-Antis: "I KNEW IT!!!" 😂
I find this sad that they didn't play a bigger role cause what's the point of introducing them only to never be seen or heard from again?
Selling toys
@@victorfergn Oh they sold their toys alright, seeing as their cameo served no purpose other than just being there for a few minutes and you don't see or hear from them again. At least Beast Wars 2 anime did a better job using those 3, unlike this CGI show.
@@ETH5626 Well... Megatron does talk about them in Nemesis part 1 and Taranturas too in the episode where he dies
@@victorfergn yeah but I'd expect them to play a bigger role in other episodes, not just show them in this episode and then "poof" they are not seen or heard from again.
@@ETH5626 I think they had more ideas for a couple of possible seasons but Beast Wars changed networks
Umm... someone want to explain what the hell is the point of a sensor... if it can only detect something that hits it?!
Is the best way to make sure it's not a glitch in the system.
That's how signals work, dumb ass. If it doesn't cross your scanners, you don't detect it.
At the end of beast machines, were the predacons also freed from megatron? Do predacons even exist in beast machines?
Missed opportunity to have the Maximals and Predacons work together against a common enemy in Megatron.
At the end of beast Machines everyone is resurrected including the Predacons.
@@jedibattlemasterkos in beast machines, the predacons are never mentioned. Primal only mentions saving the trapped maximals. The first time I watched it, I thought nightscreech was a predacon. I thought that made sense for his character, but even he is a maximal.
Waspinator is there though
Nah i think some of the predacons and maximals are turned into robots.
Yeah I Think This Episode is Good
If the Tripedacus Council appears in a flashback in Rise of The Beasts, everyone in the theater would freak out.
Unicorn is already declared as the main villain, and given hasbro's track record with beast wars besides the original cartoon, their reimagined as contemporaries instead of future descendants!
That movie sucked
@@thedude9941I need Reasons Please
@@MeiPaul-pc4gu no David Kaye.
@@MeiPaul-pc4gu No David Kaye, they made BW Megs a wheedling suckup for TF Megs, and overall the story was just plain bad.
If the maximal elder are replaced by the convoy council who replacing the tripredicus council?
I still Wonder who IS the ancestors of Tarantulas and The Tripredacus Council,are they descendents of Unicron?, The Quintessons?, or someone else's descendents?.
Apparently the cybertronians from the g2 comic were what was planned, wings universe did that concept
Tarantulas was called unicorns spawn was it a insult or something deeper
It's rumored the t council was originally g1 cons that served Megatron and had their bodies reformatted
The timelines give many versions
@@chrisedwards3214. Blame Hasbro for the huge missed opportunity. There's already a ton of spoon feed expositional dialogue, like when that tripedacus council member blabbed about their situation with the maximals in an"as you know"fashion. But rather than letting the show staff fallow through with it, they did a completely different series and derailing things!
I’ve always suspected the Quintessons. The council wants to conquer Cybertron themselves and eliminate the Autobots, Decepticons, Maximals and Predacons all in one fell swoop as they partially orchestrated Megatron’s time shenanigans
Beast Wars is a G1 continuity acting as a distant sequel to the original cartoon, meaning that the Quintessons most likely existed with the same backstory of creating the Cybertronians before their creations turned on them, and spending the next few millennia trying to overthrow them and rule Cybertron. I feel it was only natural for the Quintessons to secretly participate in the great upgrade that saw the birth of Maximals and Predacons, and infiltrate society to covertly usurp it from within.
I love how Optimus generally is tolerant of Rattrap, generally the diplomat, and generally able to smooth things over.
*facepalm* shut up rat trap.
He knows precisely how Fucked things are if ravage is here.
Right
Why is the guy on the left a hot dog?
Sea Clamp
They act more like quintessons
So, are these guys Predacons, or descendants from Unicron like Tarantulas claims later?
Alr, i'll try to explain this
The Tripedacus Council is indeed descended from Unicron, but it was actually Megatron who called Tarantulas "spawn of Unicron" that, however was simply his way of calling Tarantulas a SoB but was retconned due to many people misunderstanding that line
@@jacksbrow182I think in the 3H Enterprise comics it was shown that Tarantulas is an extension of Unicorn.
@@thedude9941 as i said, the line was simply a throwaway, but it was made canon eventually
one of the ruling bodies cause they can't agree on things and cause want to wait others want to act now thus they are devided
I havemt watched this show in such a long time, did the tripreadecus combiner even show up in the show cause i dont even remember if magnaboss did either
Nope, both appeared in Japan’s Beast Wars II under different names & characters but this show only ever had the Tripredacus council in this format.
Tripredacus Council talking to Galavar (later known as BW Megatron) before he time travelled to prehistoric Earth and started the Beast Wars.
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Why they afraid of Megatron from beast war 1:37
They definitely aren't afraid of him. If anything, they're looking down on him. While they acknowledge his skill, they also think he's too unpredictable to be the face of the Predacons, and that makes him more trouble than his talents are worth.
Megatron is too much of a wild card, because he acts on his own and isn't a team player that can't control and predict his actions despite them acknowledging that he's very brilliant.
from what we learn the Predacons aren't treated well on cybertron, the Tripredacus council is trying to take advantage of this so they can seize power in service to their creator, Unicron, but because Megatron acts on his own it is causing the Maximal Elders to be more suspicious of them and makes it harder for the Tripredacus council to move about in secret.
they don't fear him, they are annoyed with him
They had a perfect set up for a great plot in the sequel series here...and they flubbed it.
we don't talk about that sequel.
@SkyOfflaneOnlyIt was written by people who had no idea what transformers were or the idea of "robots in disguise". Not only that but they hadn't seen beast wars either which is why the characters were all... Off.
I Still can't believe that Ravage one of Soundwave pets becomes a Predacon!
He’s not the only one too. Laserbeak and Buzzsaw also appear in the prequel comic released by Botcon and they too got upgraded Predacon bodies.
There's a surprising amount of Decepticons still running around. Ravage, Laserbeak, Buzzsaw (the birds both got roasted, unfortunately), Divebomb, Razorclaw, Flamewar, Thundercracker, Sinnertwin, and several hundred other Decepticons are all still active, whether as civilians, agents, insurgents, or war prisoners
@@samuelwithers2221 some of the deceptions was granted amnesty
@@chrisedwards3214 Yes, this was the case with Ravage, Buzzsaw, and Laserbeak. Others like Thundercracker and Sinnertwin were war prisoners kept in containment. Divebomb and Razorclaw were underground insurgents
@@samuelwithers2221 hold on, wasn't Thundercracker turned into Scourge in the 1987 movie?
1:25 didn't Tarantulas say they have a different ancestry?
I always saw Tarantulas as a descendant of ShockWave. Purple, one yellow eye, scientist, are the similarities that hinted that to me. Then when he tries to blow up the Ark, won't erase him, his great-grandaddy (or how many generations) is still safe and sound.
@@cledgefenrir5681I always imagine tarantulas as the spawn of the chaos bringer himself.
IIRC, it was later revealed in-show that Tarantulas was descended from Unicron.
So, he was actually acting as a _triple_ agent against everyone else.
That honestly just felt like it was just shoehorned in at the last minute. It doesn't even make sense when we just heard that the Deceptions are their ancestors.
@@DeinedThat honestly should have been revealed earlier, it came way too late to matter.
"This is it were going home"
“The Maximals Never Go Home”
**always Sunny theme**
@@crimsondynamo615 Haaaaa! So perfect it brings a tear to my eye.
there's something i never understood (or is it a script hole)
It is assumed that the story takes place in the land of millions of years ago when cybertron was devastated and neither predacon nor maximal exist yet (and the G1 Transformers were asleep on earth), so how did the transmetal wave arrive at contemporary cybertron of the maximal and predacon?
Perhaps it is the same wave that arrived millions of years later, there it would be understood ... but how were they able to send an Agent at the same time millions of years ago to the past?
The Trans-warp portal the cast used that made them end up on earth left a kind of portal that the wave used to arrived at cybertron in the future and when the Agent went to follow the source he hit the same portal and arrived in past earth.
@@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 At what point did he mention anything about hating Beast Wars?
@@greydevil1772 Well, he said something about script-hole and was complaining about the show.
@@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 And giving light to objective problems is a bad thing for what reason? The show isn't perfect.
@@greydevil1772 Oh sure and I suppose you have any reasons why this imperfect show shouldn't be my favorite 😒
If they are in the future ,and they recived the sgnal , why they aren't shown in beast machines , what happeneds to them?
Another thing what BM throw away...
Remember in beast machines megatron took control of the planet. And the predacon council did try to kill him by sending ravage. So when megatron got back home his first job would be to 86 the council when he took over.
Because beast machines is hot garbage
Beast Machines makes no damn sense.
most likely killed offscreen we need more fiction to be sure though
This puzzlerebus starts to make sense. 📑
Im.quite sure megatrkn dealt with rhe maximal.rlders and the tripredacus council
Good stuff
Why do they look artistic
Megatron's dad is a jerk...
I never saw this ep
Tripedacus is here
he also say yes
You know I’m curious why don’t you see any transformers without their beast mode in the light 💡
Because they all used the stock robot body Mainframe used for the giant mecha in ReBoot.
@@baddabaddabaddaswing not sure what that means but thank you
@@silverbolt9659 They keep non-beast Transformers in the shadows because they all have the same model
@@calebporter3735 oh well thank you for this information
They use simple and reused character models and don't show them clearly so they can save on costs. Character models are expensive and Mainframe Entertainment wasn't the most wealthy studio.
So we’re they neutral or evil good?
Neutral evil
They pretty much planned to overthrow the Maximals, but didn’t agree with Megatron’s plan to alter history.
@@connormclernon26 thank you and i figured they are like that
They’re evil since they planned on overthrowing the Maximals and reclaiming Cybertron.
The only problem is that they’re very cautious about how they go about doing it. And other Predacons like Megatron and Magmatron think they plan too slowly. And any opportunity they have of retaking Cybertron will be far too late.
Lawful evil
Covert agent ravage at your service.
"Wait a cycle"
(Forgot the line)
@@Starvaze What about the maximals ( that was the line)
“I'm afraid the transwarp wave was very weak. Only the Predacon sensors detected it.”
@@Karlos1234ify gee I wonder if he was 🤥 lying
Something that never made sense about this.
They keep talking about being able to track when the wave would reach Cybertron like it's in real time. But they traveled back in time to get to Earth in the first place and are thousands of years in the past relative to when they left Cybertron.
They are completely out of sync with the normal timeline so if the wave reached Cybertron when they said it did then it would be thousands of years before they ever left, before the Maximals and Predicons were even around.
If the Wave traveled forward in time as they described, then the concept of saying "its should get there now" is meaningless. It will get there thousands of years in the future and then the Maximals (or in this case Predacons) will send help who will arrive whenever their time machines are set to arrive.
Time travel really makes things complicated -__-
Huh that’s a good question but it is still a good show
There is a leftover portal that the cast used in the first episode that causes anything that goes near it to travel back and forth through time. That how the wave reach future cybertron and, when the Agent went to follow the wave source, hit the same portal and travel to the past.
It actually shown later on. Here it is around the 2 minute mark: ua-cam.com/video/ZI9X2UXZFo4/v-deo.html
@@lightdragoon88 In that case then it doesn't make sense for Rhinox to say that the wave travels through space AND TIME. Because the portal takes care of the time part.
@@JonathanRodd yeah, meaning it travels through space... and time...
@@km91420 Rhinox didn't mention anything about a portal. The way he said it implied that the wave itself inherently traveled through space and time without the aid of a pre-existing time portal. I'm not saying the portal wasn't the source, just that the way it was written was confusing.
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Yes? Are you Megertron dad?