My father was a goverment employee from Department of Archaeology and Museum in Myanmar. He told me there were even earlier civilizations before Pyuu city states. In somewhere near Mandalay , an unidentified city walls were found , but sadly , they never got the chance to properly analyse it, because the militrary build a base right at the historical site.
@sithukyaw9019 the Mon predated them; but further south Many who identify as Bamar on their ID cards were really Mon who magically vanished soon after the ID card system went into use. Many in Ayayerwaddy who now identify as Bamar are actually genetically mostly Mon.
@@sithukyaw9019 No. The Pyu settlements remains are the very first ones we can get as records. There are still earlier civilizations even before Pyus that we can't identify. In Tagong and Kyukse regions , there are some stone buildings that are even predated to Pyus.
It’s not Burmans, it’s Pyu peoples , genetically, closer to Tibetan when Burmans genetically closer to Loloish peoples, but Tibetans and Burmans are distinct relative groups in Asia, Tibeto-Burmans According to DNA testing, Pyu peoples from 1 st century AD are more closer to Tibetans than Burmese peoples, but Early Burmese peoples remains are rare coz they’re cremated, so you can say Early medieval Burmans are just descendants of Burmo- Pyu culture and later Burmese Peoples genetics are more complex with Tai peoples(Shan,Thai) , Mon-Khmer(Mon) , Chinese(Han/Hakka) , Indian(Tamil,Bengali,Telugu, Nepali, and Hindustani ) And later Muslim (Arabic,Persian) So yeah later Burmese are more diverse in genetic
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i can see it. many burmese look more northern in facial structure and skin colour. just look at aung san suu kyi. she looks very tibetan. that type of look doesn't exist in places like cambodia or java who look more native south east asian. i must say, burmese women are very attractive
That type of look doesn't exist in other South East Asia. You are right. ❤ That's what ASEAN people should know and they every time assume we are similar to them. 😅
@@billionchanofficial people that don't know usually never been around burmese people. i am cambodian and outside of the tan skin the facial structure is very different from my people. burmese facial structure is even more east asian than the vietnamese who were colonised by china for 1000 years.
That is quite true as a burmese indian many ethnic burmese people i see resemble tibetans alot but down in the south theres a more indonesian malay look
In Myanmar there are northern looks like model Paing Takhon and southern looks like general Min Aung Hlaing. The relative Northern looks can be usually found around Southwest China as well, such as Purba Rgyal (Pu Bajia) a Tibetan singer and Peng Jiasheng (Pheung Kya Shin) a governor of Chinese ethnic region in Myanmar.
Thank you for interesting Burmese history. But the history, you know is a little wrong. Pyu is the ancient Burmese's name. Pyu inscriptions are Burmese ancient inscriptions. If you don't believe, you don't need to learn Burmese Language. You can translate and trace ancient Burmese Language (Pyu language) in wikipedia with google traslator. You will see 80% of Pyu words similar to Burmese words. According to Contemporary histories, India call Pyu Empire as Brahmadesh, China used Burmese Kingdom as Piao, Mien, Fan, Dian in their historical records, Mogolian empire called Mien (Burmese) Kingdom as Pyu Kingdom, Karen people call Burmese people as Pyaw, Arakanese people knew Burmese people as Pyu in their ancient reccords. According to one of the internationally accepted Burmese king inscription, found in Buddha Gaya (Nepal), Burmese king wrote himself as Pyu Hundred Thousand King in this inscription.
Karen people don't call Burmese as Pyaw that's a total bullshit we call it payan or daehwoh which means daeh:တုပ woh: ခိုး coz Burmese got nothing of their original ones for example longyi come from India Tikepone come from China Burmese got nothing of their owns they're just stealing from someone's culture
@@leophan2049Lol! You pathetic Karen barbarians didn't even have the alphabets for writing until 1830. 🤣 An American missionary invented it for you by using Burmese alphabets.
Burmese, Tibetans and Chinese all had one single origin in the area in Amdo/Gansu area. They spoke Proto-Sino-Tibetan, which is the parent language of all 3 languages. Those who went west upland became Tibetans, those who went south became Burmese and those who went east became Han Chinese people.
The girl picture you shown in the video is Mon girl who are relate with cambodia and thailand or mixed race girl pure burmese are lived in Sagaing region Mandalay region and Magway region They are called anyarthar 80 percent of them are tibetan face yangon bago ayeyarwady are mostly mixed races and Mon khmer race
@@leophan2049Ma Naw, Cherry Thin, Nyein Thaw, Wan Moe, Hein Thu Aung, For Way, သားတို့အမွှာ, Banyar Han, Super Bae Taw (စူပါဘဲတော), Mandalay Thein Zaw etc all of them are anyarthar (အညာသား) do they look like indian or Pakistani or Tibeten ? I think you have no idea about what you said. There are a lot of celebrities from anyar regions you should research.
@@leophan2049I already said 80percent of anyarthar are tibetan face. There are small amounts of indians,chinese,nepali,manipuri (meitei), mon khmer and rakhine peoples that are 20 percent of anyar population that does not mean they are bamar.You can not claim who live in anyar are bamar. Bye the way if you want research bamar peoples go to anyar region and then go to university,go to school , and look the faces of students . Another tibetan looking peoples here is UA-camr No No(နိုနို),and cooking for you t.h.a .check this son
Tibetan and burmese Indeed share basic words if u research it on google. Counting words are mostly the same and even writing system but not modern burmese. Modern burmese mostly mixed with Mon and other nationality. Even myself i mixed with Chinese
@@sulecuber it was from Mon not from India. When Burmese conquered Mon , Burmese decided to borrow some alphabet. Mon didn't give two alphabet. The system is really based on Mon writing and Pyu writing. U can also see Pyu alphabet. Burmese old handwriting is not circle much like Tibetan. Burmese write on pei leaves not stone so leaves are fragile to write square so Burmese later changed to circle ⭕ burmese old square writing and Tibetan are mostly the same. Tibetan called themselves Nga which means I.
@@Tai美心 I'm interested. I want to discuss more. I believe you have already known that writing system and spoken language of the same language may come from completely different root.
@@Tai美心Not true. It is not like a property just because someone said so, you can't take it. Burmese writing is Pyu writing. The mon writing came from sancript. Geographically, sanscript passed Brahma( Burma) pyay. The mon invaded the Pyu between 12th -13th centuries. Some mon fled to lower Burma because the Tai invaded Thailand which was called Davarati. Tai people changed it to Thai. The Tai invaded Myanmar and settled in Shan state in late 13 centuries as per the mtDNA sequencing and ethnohistory. The Shan was called Shang which originated in South East of China which is so far away from Myanmar on the map.
since the tibeto burman language is grouped with chinese, did the chinese originate in tibet as well and move to the yellow river? or was it the other way around? there seems to be more diversity in sino tibetan languages in the south
@@WaMo721 The most plausible is the first one. All Trans-Himalayan(Sino-Tibetan) languages are scattered along Himalayas, even the Burmese(the most northern point of Myanmar has Himalayas), and only the Sinitics are the exception and located totally to the east of Tibetan plateau. And the believed founder place of Chinese civilisation is in Shaanxi/Shanxi region aka Central plains, which is located just to the east of the NE Tibetan plateau which would be the ultimate Urrheimat of Trans-Himalayan speakers. So it’s much more plausible that the founders of Yellow river civilisation from which developed Chinese civilisation came from NE Tibet and not the other way.
Aryan isn’t even a race firstly , remember and notice how and when Iranians who migrated to turkey then only became known as Aryans it means noble rulers just like mangolians also means noble rulers they actually share some culture similarities whether you want to believe it or not it’s also why they are able to travel between different countries in ancient periods without wars
Very interesting as many people have their own opinions on it. I read most of the comments but history is history as we still can’t figure it out where our ancestors came from. Which is very interesting, human beings are always longing for their womb. In my opinion we don’t need to know how exactly where our ancestors came from but one day sure we will combined into one world. Even though we don’t exactly know when will become. And also thanks for the sharing. ❤
9:45 did not know that the Burmese were the first to convert to Theravada Buddhist, i have seen a lot of Thais claiming that they are the first in the region. maybe i should do some more study.
I am not sure about the intention of this vid.If they are just trying to say that oh burmese and tibet people shared some ancestors,that's still acceptable.But if they are pushing the agenda that Phyu civilization were built solely by descendants of Tibetan people,that's just factually wrong and misleading. It is clearly stated in the Burmese historical records that populations of Phyu cities are made up of three major groups-first group is the native people who have been living in Myanmar since stone age,second group is many immigrants from the west(India subcontinent) who brings Indian cultures and Buddhism which are the foundations for modern Myanmar and the third groups are the Tibeto-Burmans who are believed to be immigrants from the Northern Myanmar.So yes,you are not entirely wrong for saying Phyu had some Tibetan blood but you have ommited the fact that Tibetans are not the only ones who moved to Myanmar.
Is there any similar temple in Tibet . what kind of similarities still there. anyone knows that there is another historic place called Mrauk U, Arakan State northern Burma. If Tibetan built the Bagan Capital, as well as Mrauk U city got built by Tibetan. That consideration is totally funny. just try to see what kind of similarities Bagan and Mrauk U and some temple in the Cambodia. try to know the distance between Bagan and Tibet what kind of transportation was there last thousands yrs. there could be someone who understand Architect at that time from Tibet during the city built up but it can not be considered Tibetans buit the city.
@@BawiRoThang-r6v how Pyu name appeared ; for linguist : the word ‘ Pyu’ is probably root from pyi thu ( the citizen of a country in Burmese language) Pyu also call ‘country ‘ as tain pyi the same as in Burmese language: when pyi thu is contracted it become Pyu ; like in lay yin pyan ( air plane ) becomes Lin pyan in some fast speech and mohinga to mwinga in fast speech : ( In English do not become don’t and got to become gotta ) like this : so when Chinese court ambassador came to Sriketra they asked local people who r you. Local people replied we are pyi Thu, and they recorded as Pyu and piao : still Sriketra city is called as pyay pyi in Burmese language means ( country )
Yunnan wasn't a vassal of Pyu, they were Burmese. China invaded them since Shang dynasty. Morden day Tai/Thai/Kadai/Khom are Chinese from Southern China, Shang dynasty. Which is why the burmese call them Shan referring to a place they came from. Shan is not a race, it is a place, a dynasty in acient time.
They are races represent AA (Austro-Asiatic) group. They have closest DNA and Linguistic. Tai-Kadai represent Eurasian known as TK. The mixture of Bei-yue Chinese and European from Central Asia. Tai-Kadai entered Thailand, Laos and Cambodia, Shan state of Myanmar in late 13 centuries. They conquered the Mon, hence the mon entered lower Burma in late 13-14 centuries. Tai-Kadai subjugated Tibeto-Burmans in North East India. Ahom are genetically Tibeto-Burmans, but culturally Tai-Kadai of Eurasian-Chinese stock.
Believe the horse warriors are the same or similar to the Tamang people of Nepal. Tamang literally translating to someone who fight on top of a horse in Tibetan.
Pyu isn't a race, it was a place which represented a dynasty. Country was still called Brahma. People were Burmans. Hence, Pyu was the name of the dynasty that governed the whole Kingdom Burma. Like Konboung wasn't a race, the name of the dynasty that governed the whole Kingdom Burma. Under Pyu dynasty, the Brahma (Burma) country was invaded by Chinese, mongol, Shangs etc., many times throughout the dynasty. Tibetons migrated into Burma fleeing Chinese and Eurasians invasions.
Actually Pyu are burmese the same . You had followed the fabricated G h Luce’s kyakse theory during colonial times ( his paper had not reached his standard and he did inferences according to his prejudice ) to belittle burmese nationalists movements during colonial time for divide and rule policy . No history of burmese came from nanzhao . It is all fake history make by Luce . Pyu has already two names Pyu @ bamar Brahma in comtemporary Chinese historical records . Even Pyu artifact ( sliver relic chamber rims has inscribe as Pyu bamar kingdom ) There are many thousands evidence. Now appeared as Pyu are Burmese . Please stop spreading fake Luce theory that pyu n burmese are different group s
The ancient Pyu and Bamar are indeed two different but distantly related ethnicities. The Pyu settled in the Irawaddy river valley first, soon followed by Bamar migrants. These groups amalgamated together into what is now modern Burmese. Just because modern Burmese have Pyu heritage do not make Pyu and Burmese the same.
Of course I know.I just said Burma have Pyu blood(that does not mean Burma are Pyu).There is only Pa'O tribe is Pyu(also not pureblood). Karen tribe is also Pyu descendants(Cuz Pa'O and Karen are include in Karen tribe.Pa'O AKA Black Karen)Pyu are now just historical tribe😢. But noted that nowadays Pa'O tribe is under the name of Shan tribe(Nay Win did that).
We Nepali have different history let’s just say there are first settlers and 2nd settlers history im not too sure about first but the second settlers are about Tibetos /lhasas people origin they came from Tibet to spread civilisation throughout world then they were invaded by Dravidians later saved by warriors from Tibet known as kirats . You can see proto dravidians languages have Tibetan phonetics and even East Asian cultural similarities even up to cuisines . And for the first settlers you should go invest even deeper if you’re not brainwashed by Hinduism it would be clearer . 1st settlers in India could highly be asiatic people if you look at andamenese and sentinels in India they look African but their dna results shows East Asian dnas. In science it says Asians are evolved Africans or science doesn’t even tell who are the real Africans it has always mentioned mysterious group that was 1st in Africa had different civilisations than of Africa. Well if you can research history from history and both science you would get the real answer and always ask local people who has real knowledge
Something worthy to mention is the human evolution always been a lie without No real evidents but all forgeries . Till this date there are actual real evidents of older civilisation than Asia or native Americans but the world has been constantly manipulated and history rewritten because of money also did you know the oldest Africans looks close to East Asians no dark skin they have epicanthic folds ,lighter skins and west Africa Bantus and south san khois do not get along because they think either of them are invaders because most west Bantus came from India and other parts of world they came back after Dravidians invasion failed.
The human evolution theory has been a lie for a long time . They are all forgeries if you carefully studied about not just follow it without real research .and it doesn’t make sense the biblical creature Neanderthals are supposed to be European ancestors but East Asians have more Neanderthal dna and denisovans than Europeans. there are people who are of Bronze Age origins but tries to acclaim older history . the human history has been remade countless times since world invasions was further increased. There are so many lack of evidents but yet we still believe in these fake history ? Because of European powers or privileges I guess but soon people will realise the truth because the history will repeat itself.
Hello I simply don't beleive that Buddhist Tibetans established Pyu, the hindhuism inspired people with beleifs in dieties and human sacrifices. Also Buddhism enter to Myanmar from Mon State after the Pyu changed into Bagan empire. Plus, the early burmese people were dark of complexions but pyu were likely to be from China and some descendants of India. just like Tibet
No..Pyu is simply the name of the dynasty which governed country Brahma (Burma). Pyugan now Bagan, simply mean pyu village. So pyu dynasty governed the whole Burma. Eg., one of the dynasty was called Konboung, which governed the whole Burma. Likewise Taungoo dynasty.
Buddhism is already spread through Pyu long before Bagan conquered Mon. Just look at "Bupaya". Pyu city states are one of the main trade routes of china to india vice versa. Bringing true buddhism is just excuse of Anawrahta to conquer Thaton. The truth is that he has his own political problem. He want to get rid of "A-yee-Gyi"(who are Mahayana) who are expert in martial arts and becoming a small armed army with thousands followers. Then he started a holy war against his own people.
The Pagan empire was not a centralize state like the Romans, Qin, Khmer, and Incas. They lack formalize and organize infrastructure, Educational institutions, strong government laws and logistics.
@@BM-zd3vs Just by having irrigation system or a Buddhist monastery isn't what we called centralization. The central government needs to unify all the people, culture, ideas, language, and resources together and bring it all under it's authority. The answer to this are the imperial road systems or highways. You can't build a centralize and unified state or empire without roads. Like a modern nation state for example, the central government needs to build roads from the capital to other regions or provinces to unify all the people, culture, ideas, resources together. Modern Myanmar lacks this concept of centralization and this is why they are still fighting each other today.
Yes they have. For Burmese monastery are university.Burmese not like Barbarian Hindu Khmer, they base on Buddhism.So their education copy Nalanda university. They make the whole country same matrix system that Khmer don't have.@@imperialkhmer6146
@@borderlord8161 Of course when the emperor dies there will be some fragile times but when a new emperor comes things go back to normal. Did you not know the road systems of the Khmer empire stretch all the way north of Chiang Rai, Thailand and maybe even to Shan state, Myanmar?
@@WaiYanArkar138 I think Kayin and Karenni might be ancient kanyan group : but can be tibetoburman tribes (as linguists say) probably tibetoburman tribes like , Kachin , chin , kayin , Karenni and Burmese have rights to claim as tribes of Pyu . Acc to DNA analysis of Neolithic remains : it is clear that tibetoburman are first group of inhabitants in Irrawaddy valley . Mon Khmer are in chaophaya ( now in Thailand )valley later seized by tai tribes . As for pa’ o tribe first say they r mon Khmer group ( mon , wa , talaing) then some included in tibetoburman gruop ; s need more research to decide.
In ancient Kanyan(not kayan)tribes there is also Rakhine(Arakan) includes(and Barmar and Rakhine are quite similar both looks and languages).And i just don't think Chin and Kachin are Pyus. Kachin people accept that they are Mogols descendants but i think Kachin are also ancient Nanman tribe descendants just like ancient Bamar people.About Chin is they are just tibetan,that all.
I am not sure about the intention of this vid.If they are just trying to say that oh burmese and tibet people shared some ancestors,that's still acceptable.But if they are pushing the agenda that Phyu civilization were built solely by descendants of Tibetan people,that's just factually wrong and misleading. It is clearly stated in the Burmese historical records that populations of Phyu cities are made up of three major groups-first group is the native people who have been living in Myanmar since stone age,second group is many immigrants from the west(India subcontinent) who brings Indian cultures and Buddhism which are the foundations for modern Myanmar and the third groups are the Tibeto-Burmans who are believed to be immigrants from the Northern Myanmar.So yes,you are not entirely wrong for saying Phyu had some Tibetan blood but you have ommited the fact that Tibetans are not the only ones who moved to Myanmar. (CREDIT>>)
He is one of the ethnic ones..lol. So intention was to make Bamars were outsiders in their own home...lol. Eventhough non of the ethnic groups expect the Bamars' has cultural and architectures that resembles or reserves the pyu.
It's one of the ethnic ones. He keeps deleting responses. The intention was to make the Bamars outsiders in their own home. Disregarding the pyu culture and architecture are that of Bamars'. Eventhough none of those ethnic reserve or resembles those of the pyus.
Finally a man who can pronounce "Myanmar" correctly. Thanks so much XD
Ikr 😅
The narrator sounds like a Burmese.
Also for Pyu cities but he mispronounced Rakhine
He is Burmese. Lol😅
@ yea we can detect our own accent lol.
My father was a goverment employee from Department of Archaeology and Museum in Myanmar. He told me there were even earlier civilizations before Pyuu city states. In somewhere near Mandalay , an unidentified city walls were found , but sadly , they never got the chance to properly analyse it, because the militrary build a base right at the historical site.
They were called Ch'iang. Modern day Chin people are the descendent of that.
There are still sites but no funding for research. The net result is preservation of sites.
of cuz there were people settled in mm even during stone age but the Pyus were the first civilization in mm.
@sithukyaw9019 the Mon predated them; but further south
Many who identify as Bamar on their ID cards were really Mon who magically vanished soon after the ID card system went into use. Many in Ayayerwaddy who now identify as Bamar are actually genetically mostly Mon.
@@sithukyaw9019 No. The Pyu settlements remains are the very first ones we can get as records. There are still earlier civilizations even before Pyus that we can't identify. In Tagong and Kyukse regions , there are some stone buildings that are even predated to Pyus.
Excellent research video. Very interesting and educational . Well done.
Tibetans shares some DNA with Burmans but to say they built Burman empire is quite a stretch 😅. It is like saying Neanderthal built British empire 😅😅
It’s not Burmans, it’s Pyu peoples , genetically, closer to Tibetan when Burmans genetically closer to Loloish peoples, but Tibetans and Burmans are distinct relative groups in Asia, Tibeto-Burmans
According to DNA testing, Pyu peoples from 1 st century AD are more closer to Tibetans than Burmese peoples, but Early Burmese peoples remains are rare coz they’re cremated, so you can say Early medieval Burmans are just descendants of Burmo- Pyu culture and later Burmese Peoples genetics are more complex with Tai peoples(Shan,Thai) , Mon-Khmer(Mon) , Chinese(Han/Hakka) , Indian(Tamil,Bengali,Telugu, Nepali, and Hindustani )
And later Muslim (Arabic,Persian)
So yeah later Burmese are more diverse in genetic
@@emperoroak7331 what DNA my ancestors have 🤔😅
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@@emperoroak7331 crazy expensive 🤧
@@emperoroak7331 how do you know Pyu people DNA when you can’t check n match with which Pyu people : where did you find one Pyu people ?
Thank you for unearthing an important piece of our history. 😊🙏
i can see it. many burmese look more northern in facial structure and skin colour. just look at aung san suu kyi. she looks very tibetan. that type of look doesn't exist in places like cambodia or java who look more native south east asian. i must say, burmese women are very attractive
That type of look doesn't exist in other South East Asia. You are right. ❤ That's what ASEAN people should know and they every time assume we are similar to them. 😅
@@billionchanofficial people that don't know usually never been around burmese people. i am cambodian and outside of the tan skin the facial structure is very different from my people. burmese facial structure is even more east asian than the vietnamese who were colonised by china for 1000 years.
That is quite true as a burmese indian many ethnic burmese people i see resemble tibetans alot but down in the south theres a more indonesian malay look
In Myanmar there are northern looks like model Paing Takhon and southern looks like general Min Aung Hlaing. The relative Northern looks can be usually found around Southwest China as well, such as Purba Rgyal (Pu Bajia) a Tibetan singer and Peng Jiasheng (Pheung Kya Shin) a governor of Chinese ethnic region in Myanmar.
Aung san suu kya looks pretty southeast asian to me, she looks similar to Thais and Cambodians.
Thank you for interesting Burmese history.
But the history, you know is a little wrong.
Pyu is the ancient Burmese's name.
Pyu inscriptions are Burmese ancient inscriptions.
If you don't believe, you don't need to learn Burmese Language.
You can translate and trace ancient Burmese Language (Pyu language) in wikipedia with google traslator. You will see 80% of Pyu words similar to Burmese words.
According to Contemporary histories,
India call Pyu Empire as Brahmadesh,
China used Burmese Kingdom as Piao, Mien, Fan, Dian in their historical records,
Mogolian empire called Mien (Burmese) Kingdom as Pyu Kingdom,
Karen people call Burmese people as Pyaw,
Arakanese people knew Burmese people as Pyu in their ancient reccords.
According to one of the internationally accepted Burmese king inscription, found in Buddha Gaya (Nepal), Burmese king wrote himself as Pyu Hundred Thousand King in this inscription.
Karen people don't call Burmese as Pyaw that's a total bullshit we call it payan or daehwoh which means daeh:တုပ woh: ခိုး coz Burmese got nothing of their original ones for example longyi come from India Tikepone come from China Burmese got nothing of their owns they're just stealing from someone's culture
@@leophan2049Lol! You pathetic Karen barbarians didn't even have the alphabets for writing until 1830. 🤣 An American missionary invented it for you by using Burmese alphabets.
Burmese, Tibetans and Chinese all had one single origin in the area in Amdo/Gansu area. They spoke Proto-Sino-Tibetan, which is the parent language of all 3 languages. Those who went west upland became Tibetans, those who went south became Burmese and those who went east became Han Chinese people.
very interesting please keep making more videos like this :)
In short modern Burmese today is mixed Tibetan source and Austroasiatic
Learning so much, wish there were more channels like this 👍🏽
The girl picture you shown in the video is Mon girl who are relate with cambodia and thailand or mixed race girl pure burmese are lived in Sagaing region Mandalay region and Magway region They are called anyarthar 80 percent of them are tibetan face yangon bago ayeyarwady are mostly mixed races and Mon khmer race
Tibetan faces!? No fcking way Anyarthars are more look alike to Pakistanis or Indians
@@leophan2049Ma Naw, Cherry Thin, Nyein Thaw, Wan Moe, Hein Thu Aung, For Way, သားတို့အမွှာ, Banyar Han, Super Bae Taw (စူပါဘဲတော), Mandalay Thein Zaw etc all of them are anyarthar (အညာသား) do they look like indian or Pakistani or Tibeten ? I think you have no idea about what you said. There are a lot of celebrities from anyar regions you should research.
@@SayarGyee-k2n you're just gaslighting barely the 10 percent of Anyarthars 😓 what about the rest are look alike, Chinese? 😭
@@leophan2049I already said 80percent of anyarthar are tibetan face. There are small amounts of indians,chinese,nepali,manipuri (meitei), mon khmer and rakhine peoples that are 20 percent of anyar population that does not mean they are bamar.You can not claim who live in anyar are bamar. Bye the way if you want research bamar peoples go to anyar region and then go to university,go to school , and look the faces of students . Another tibetan looking peoples here is UA-camr No No(နိုနို),and cooking for you t.h.a .check this son
@@leophan2049I already said 80 percent of anyarthar are tibetan face.other 20 percent are Chinese,indian, rakhine,mon khmer , manipuri and nepali
Love it ❤ would be nice to see Tibetan migration along the bhrmaputta river ❤
Tibetan and burmese Indeed share basic words if u research it on google. Counting words are mostly the same and even writing system but not modern burmese. Modern burmese mostly mixed with Mon and other nationality. Even myself i mixed with Chinese
Me too mix
စာအေရးအသားက အိန္ဒိယဘက်က ပြန့်လာတော့ တူတာမဟုတ်ဘူးလား။
@@sulecuber it was from Mon not from India. When Burmese conquered Mon , Burmese decided to borrow some alphabet. Mon didn't give two alphabet. The system is really based on Mon writing and Pyu writing. U can also see Pyu alphabet. Burmese old handwriting is not circle much like Tibetan. Burmese write on pei leaves not stone so leaves are fragile to write square so Burmese later changed to circle ⭕ burmese old square writing and Tibetan are mostly the same. Tibetan called themselves Nga which means I.
@@Tai美心 I'm interested. I want to discuss more. I believe you have already known that writing system and spoken language of the same language may come from completely different root.
@@Tai美心Not true. It is not like a property just because someone said so, you can't take it.
Burmese writing is Pyu writing.
The mon writing came from sancript.
Geographically, sanscript passed Brahma( Burma) pyay.
The mon invaded the Pyu between 12th -13th centuries.
Some mon fled to lower Burma because the Tai invaded Thailand which was called Davarati. Tai people changed it to Thai.
The Tai invaded Myanmar and settled in Shan state in late 13 centuries as per the mtDNA sequencing and ethnohistory.
The Shan was called Shang which originated in South East of China which is so far away from Myanmar on the map.
since the tibeto burman language is grouped with chinese, did the chinese originate in tibet as well and move to the yellow river? or was it the other way around? there seems to be more diversity in sino tibetan languages in the south
It’s likely that the founders of yellow river civilisation migrated from Tibetan plateau
There are two theories…..one says both han and tibetan origin from northeast tibetan area….other theory says that yellow river
@@WaMo721 The most plausible is the first one. All Trans-Himalayan(Sino-Tibetan) languages are scattered along Himalayas, even the Burmese(the most northern point of Myanmar has Himalayas), and only the Sinitics are the exception and located totally to the east of Tibetan plateau. And the believed founder place of Chinese civilisation is in Shaanxi/Shanxi region aka Central plains, which is located just to the east of the NE Tibetan plateau which would be the ultimate Urrheimat of Trans-Himalayan speakers. So it’s much more plausible that the founders of Yellow river civilisation from which developed Chinese civilisation came from NE Tibet and not the other way.
@@barguttobed There is nothing called Trans Himalayan. Tibetan, Burmese, and Chinese are all Sino-Tibetans.
Thanks for sharing this history…👍👍
The people of KACHIN State were originally migrants from Qin Hai lake in the North East of Tibet low Land
When Arians invaded India upper indus river there had lived a nation named Pru in Behar region. Whether this people were related to myanmar pyu.
Aryan and Tibeto-burmese/Mongloid are very different race yet alone to be related
Tibeto-Burman and Lolo-Burman groups are different from indo-aryans. What is similar between them is mostly Buddhism and some beliefs of Hinduism
I have noticed many fair skinned and even green eyed aryan features in rural Ayayerwaddy.
Aryan isn’t even a race firstly , remember and notice how and when Iranians who migrated to turkey then only became known as Aryans it means noble rulers just like mangolians also means noble rulers they actually share some culture similarities whether you want to believe it or not it’s also why they are able to travel between different countries in ancient periods without wars
They are mixed Portuguese-Burmese.@@VeteranExpat
Interesting.
Thank you for making this video ❤
Very interesting as many people have their own opinions on it. I read most of the comments but history is history as we still can’t figure it out where our ancestors came from. Which is very interesting, human beings are always longing for their womb. In my opinion we don’t need to know how exactly where our ancestors came from but one day sure we will combined into one world. Even though we don’t exactly know when will become. And also thanks for the sharing. ❤
Thank you so much some Tibetan people immigrant in Myanmar🙏👍🪷❤️
9:45 did not know that the Burmese were the first to convert to Theravada Buddhist, i have seen a lot of Thais claiming that they are the first in the region. maybe i should do some more study.
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In other words, They came down with wisdoms to teach and share with innocents peoples!!
We can't forget about Mon people when we talking about this thank you
I am not sure about the intention of this vid.If they are just trying to say that oh burmese and tibet people shared some ancestors,that's still acceptable.But if they are pushing the agenda that Phyu civilization were built solely by descendants of Tibetan people,that's just factually wrong and misleading. It is clearly stated in the Burmese historical records that populations of Phyu cities are made up of three major groups-first group is the native people who have been living in Myanmar since stone age,second group is many immigrants from the west(India subcontinent) who brings Indian cultures and Buddhism which are the foundations for modern Myanmar and the third groups are the Tibeto-Burmans who are believed to be immigrants from the Northern Myanmar.So yes,you are not entirely wrong for saying Phyu had some Tibetan blood but you have ommited the fact that Tibetans are not the only ones who moved to Myanmar.
0:37 is this map of tibet correct?
It’s the map of historical tibet
Is there any similar temple in Tibet .
what kind of similarities still there.
anyone knows that there is another historic place called Mrauk U, Arakan State northern Burma. If Tibetan built the Bagan Capital, as well as Mrauk U city got built by Tibetan. That consideration is totally funny.
just try to see what kind of similarities Bagan and Mrauk U and some temple in the Cambodia.
try to know the distance between Bagan and Tibet what kind of transportation was there last thousands yrs.
there could be someone who understand Architect at that time from Tibet during the city built up but it can not be considered Tibetans buit the city.
Puy city now Pyi(Pyay)City
In acient time Prome Kingdom ❤
@@BawiRoThang-r6v how Pyu name appeared ; for linguist : the word ‘ Pyu’ is probably root from pyi thu ( the citizen of a country in Burmese language) Pyu also call ‘country ‘ as tain pyi the same as in Burmese language: when pyi thu is contracted it become Pyu ; like in lay yin pyan ( air plane ) becomes Lin pyan in some fast speech and mohinga to mwinga in fast speech : ( In English do not become don’t and got to become gotta ) like this : so when Chinese court ambassador came to Sriketra they asked local people who r you. Local people replied we are pyi Thu, and they recorded as Pyu and piao : still Sriketra city is called as pyay pyi in Burmese language means ( country )
Among the vassal territories of the Pyu period were the territories of China
All the territories belong to china including Meercury,Venus,Mars,Pluto and many more.
Yunnan wasn't a vassal of Pyu, they were Burmese. China invaded them since Shang dynasty.
Morden day Tai/Thai/Kadai/Khom are Chinese from Southern China, Shang dynasty. Which is why the burmese call them Shan referring to a place they came from. Shan is not a race, it is a place, a dynasty in acient time.
great video. very educational
Burmese people built their own civilization , was not built by tibatan.
That is why I said "a Burmese civilization", not just "Burmese civilization".
@@eclectic.explorationsThe point is "It wasn't built by Tibetans"
@@Yu-ok1kyyou know the meaning of civilisation right ?
Burmese came from Tibet
Read Chinese history to know more about that
mon khmer it not a race it just a language family, they are two different group culturally and genetically
It similar to saying Tai- kradai tribes are just a language group not genetically similar.
They don't care they just parroting the ultra outdated studies.
They are races represent AA (Austro-Asiatic) group. They have closest DNA and Linguistic.
Tai-Kadai represent Eurasian known as TK. The mixture of Bei-yue Chinese and European from Central Asia.
Tai-Kadai entered Thailand, Laos and Cambodia, Shan state of Myanmar in late 13 centuries. They conquered the Mon, hence the mon entered lower Burma in late 13-14 centuries.
Tai-Kadai subjugated Tibeto-Burmans in North East India. Ahom are genetically Tibeto-Burmans, but culturally Tai-Kadai of Eurasian-Chinese stock.
Nanchao is a lao kingdom...the people originally came from a mountain called Bhutan and set up the nanchao.
There isn't a consensus on what Nanzhao was. Some think they were multiethnic
Believe the horse warriors are the same or similar to the Tamang people of Nepal. Tamang literally translating to someone who fight on top of a horse in Tibetan.
@@Sinondakid Burmese are also called as Mang by other ethnic.
@@TarYarMinSanWhich ones?
@@bl-nb8fo Kachin,Shan,Lisu etc...
Modern Burmese are most likely descendants of Pyu and Mon people that adopted the Burman language as a part of assimilation.
Pyu isn't a race, it was a place which represented a dynasty. Country was still called Brahma. People were Burmans. Hence, Pyu was the name of the dynasty that governed the whole Kingdom Burma.
Like Konboung wasn't a race, the name of the dynasty that governed the whole Kingdom Burma.
Under Pyu dynasty, the Brahma (Burma) country was invaded by Chinese, mongol, Shangs etc., many times throughout the dynasty.
Tibetons migrated into Burma fleeing Chinese and Eurasians invasions.
did the austro asiatic speaking Wa people predate the tibeto burmese pyu, bamar, tai/shan in myanmar? are they the original inhabitants?
No they came from China.
@@TarYarMinSan they have the oldest genes in south east asia and have the most basal east asian
@@thelastmohican-k6x They came from China about 1000BC.
Who says Pyu are Tibetans migrants?
7:20 Rakhine is pronounced “ra- kine”
The modern day Bamar picture is the Dai people not Burmese people. Get your information right
Actually Pyu are burmese the same . You had followed the fabricated G h Luce’s kyakse theory during colonial times ( his paper had not reached his standard and he did inferences according to his prejudice ) to belittle burmese nationalists movements during colonial time for divide and rule policy . No history of burmese came from nanzhao . It is all fake history make by Luce . Pyu has already two names Pyu @ bamar Brahma in comtemporary Chinese historical records .
Even Pyu artifact ( sliver relic chamber rims has inscribe as Pyu bamar kingdom )
There are many thousands evidence. Now appeared as Pyu are Burmese .
Please stop spreading fake Luce theory that pyu n burmese are different group s
So, Dr.Than Htun was a jackass? LOL
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The ancient Pyu and Bamar are indeed two different but distantly related ethnicities. The Pyu settled in the Irawaddy river valley first, soon followed by Bamar migrants. These groups amalgamated together into what is now modern Burmese.
Just because modern Burmese have Pyu heritage do not make Pyu and Burmese the same.
Some point of views burmese are combination tribe of Pyu and Nanman tribe.
Pyu+Nanman=Burma
Of course I know.I just said Burma have Pyu blood(that does not mean Burma are Pyu).There is only Pa'O tribe is Pyu(also not pureblood). Karen tribe is also Pyu descendants(Cuz Pa'O and Karen are include in Karen tribe.Pa'O AKA Black Karen)Pyu are now just historical tribe😢.
But noted that nowadays Pa'O tribe is under the name of Shan tribe(Nay Win did that).
No Thai in Southeast Asia during that time.
yep. the tai migrated from south east china
Is it a Chinese propaganda? They sure are eyeing on Myanmar
အဲဒါဆိုရင် ပျု တွေကိုသိမ်းဖို့အတွက် ဗမာတွေက နန်းကျောင် တရုတ်တွေနဲ့အတူပါလာခဲ့တာလား။ ?
အလကား..stupid theory.
ဗမာက ဗျူကိုသိမ်းပြီး ပျူယဥ်းမှုကို ထိန်းထားပါ့မလား။
သူတို့က လူမျိုးအတူတူဘဲ
Pyu ဆိုတာ နေရာ ခေတ်တခု , လူမျိုးမဟုတ်ဘူး။ pyu မင်းဆက်ပါ။ လူမျိုးတွေက ဗမာတွေ။
ကုန်းဘောင် ခေတ်လို ကုန်းညောင်မင်းဆက်, ဗမာတပြည်လုံးကိုအုပ်စိုးတယ်။
အင်ဒီယမှတ်တန်း တွေမှာ ဗမာ တွေကို Brahma လို့ခေါ်တယ်။
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Not true.
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Anything about Nepal and Nepalese?? 😢
We Nepali have different history let’s just say there are first settlers and 2nd settlers history im not too sure about first but the second settlers are about Tibetos /lhasas people origin they came from Tibet to spread civilisation throughout world then they were invaded by Dravidians later saved by warriors from Tibet known as kirats . You can see proto dravidians languages have Tibetan phonetics and even East Asian cultural similarities even up to cuisines . And for the first settlers you should go invest even deeper if you’re not brainwashed by Hinduism it would be clearer . 1st settlers in India could highly be asiatic people if you look at andamenese and sentinels in India they look African but their dna results shows East Asian dnas. In science it says Asians are evolved Africans or science doesn’t even tell who are the real Africans it has always mentioned mysterious group that was 1st in Africa had different civilisations than of Africa. Well if you can research history from history and both science you would get the real answer and always ask local people who has real knowledge
Something worthy to mention is the human evolution always been a lie without No real evidents but all forgeries . Till this date there are actual real evidents of older civilisation than Asia or native Americans but the world has been constantly manipulated and history rewritten because of money also did you know the oldest Africans looks close to East Asians no dark skin they have epicanthic folds ,lighter skins and west Africa Bantus and south san khois do not get along because they think either of them are invaders because most west Bantus came from India and other parts of world they came back after Dravidians invasion failed.
The human evolution theory has been a lie for a long time . They are all forgeries if you carefully studied about not just follow it without real research .and it doesn’t make sense the biblical creature Neanderthals are supposed to be European ancestors but East Asians have more Neanderthal dna and denisovans than Europeans. there are people who are of Bronze Age origins but tries to acclaim older history . the human history has been remade countless times since world invasions was further increased. There are so many lack of evidents but yet we still believe in these fake history ? Because of European powers or privileges I guess but soon people will realise the truth because the history will repeat itself.
Why?
Hello I simply don't beleive that Buddhist Tibetans established Pyu, the hindhuism inspired people with beleifs in dieties and human sacrifices. Also Buddhism enter to Myanmar from Mon State after the Pyu changed into Bagan empire. Plus, the early burmese people were dark of complexions but pyu were likely to be from China and some descendants of India. just like Tibet
No..Pyu is simply the name of the dynasty which governed country Brahma (Burma). Pyugan now Bagan, simply mean pyu village. So pyu dynasty governed the whole Burma.
Eg., one of the dynasty was called Konboung, which governed the whole Burma. Likewise Taungoo dynasty.
@BM-zd3vs yeah but that just nothing to do with my point?
Buddhism is already spread through Pyu long before Bagan conquered Mon. Just look at "Bupaya". Pyu city states are one of the main trade routes of china to india vice versa. Bringing true buddhism is just excuse of Anawrahta to conquer Thaton. The truth is that he has his own political problem. He want to get rid of "A-yee-Gyi"(who are Mahayana) who are expert in martial arts and becoming a small armed army with thousands followers. Then he started a holy war against his own people.
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ခိုလိုဖန်း မဟုတ်လောက်ပဲ ကဲလောင်ဖန်း ဖြစ်မယ်ထင်တယ်။ တရုတ်အသံထွက်အရဆိုရင်။
The Pagan empire was not a centralize state like the Romans, Qin, Khmer, and Incas. They lack formalize and organize infrastructure, Educational institutions, strong government laws and logistics.
Ofcourse they have organised infrastructure as such as irrigation system, water ways, their education is buddhist monastery education, art of war.
@@BM-zd3vs Just by having irrigation system or a Buddhist monastery isn't what we called centralization. The central government needs to unify all the people, culture, ideas, language, and resources together and bring it all under it's authority. The answer to this are the imperial road systems or highways. You can't build a centralize and unified state or empire without roads. Like a modern nation state for example, the central government needs to build roads from the capital to other regions or provinces to unify all the people, culture, ideas, resources together. Modern Myanmar lacks this concept of centralization and this is why they are still fighting each other today.
Yes they have. For Burmese monastery are university.Burmese not like Barbarian Hindu Khmer, they base on Buddhism.So their education copy Nalanda university. They make the whole country same matrix system that Khmer don't have.@@imperialkhmer6146
Khmer isn't to centerlized.They can't even control Upper Khmer and Lavo.
@@borderlord8161 Of course when the emperor dies there will be some fragile times but when a new emperor comes things go back to normal. Did you not know the road systems of the Khmer empire stretch all the way north of Chiang Rai, Thailand and maybe even to Shan state, Myanmar?
Karen or Kayin came to Burma first and Burmese occupied their lands and killed them
Pyus are not Tibetans, Tibetans are Pyus.
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ငပိသံ ကျန်ေနေသးတယ်။ တိဗက်တန် သိပ်မဖြစ်ချင်နဲ့ XD
He aint even Burmese His accent is js similiar Tf are u even yapping about
Pyu isn't Mon people 0%,Now Pyu people= Pa'O people 💯
Please watch the video to know that at no point do I suggest that the Pyu were the Mon people.
Karens are also Pyu right?Cuz some karens says Pyu Sawhti(king of Pyu) is their king.I think Burmese also Pyu desendands(at least 30% blood).
Pa` O people are the people 侗 (Thong ） Minority from China. They like to dress in black。
@@WaiYanArkar138 I think Kayin and Karenni might be ancient kanyan group : but can be tibetoburman tribes (as linguists say)
probably tibetoburman tribes like , Kachin , chin , kayin , Karenni and Burmese have rights to claim as tribes of Pyu . Acc to DNA analysis of Neolithic remains : it is clear that tibetoburman are first group of inhabitants in Irrawaddy valley . Mon Khmer are in chaophaya ( now in Thailand )valley later seized by tai tribes .
As for pa’ o tribe first say they r mon Khmer group ( mon , wa , talaing) then some included in tibetoburman gruop ; s need more research to decide.
In ancient Kanyan(not kayan)tribes there is also Rakhine(Arakan) includes(and Barmar and Rakhine are quite similar both looks and languages).And i just don't think Chin and Kachin are Pyus. Kachin people accept that they are Mogols descendants but i think Kachin are also ancient Nanman tribe descendants just like ancient Bamar people.About Chin is they are just tibetan,that all.
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I am not sure about the intention of this vid.If they are just trying to say that oh burmese and tibet people shared some ancestors,that's still acceptable.But if they are pushing the agenda that Phyu civilization were built solely by descendants of Tibetan people,that's just factually wrong and misleading. It is clearly stated in the Burmese historical records that populations of Phyu cities are made up of three major groups-first group is the native people who have been living in Myanmar since stone age,second group is many immigrants from the west(India subcontinent) who brings Indian cultures and Buddhism which are the foundations for modern Myanmar and the third groups are the Tibeto-Burmans who are believed to be immigrants from the Northern Myanmar.So yes,you are not entirely wrong for saying Phyu had some Tibetan blood but you have ommited the fact that Tibetans are not the only ones who moved to Myanmar. (CREDIT>>)
Is it a Chinese propaganda? They sure are eyeing on Myanmar
He is one of the ethnic ones..lol. So intention was to make Bamars were outsiders in their own home...lol.
Eventhough non of the ethnic groups expect the Bamars' has cultural and architectures that resembles or reserves the pyu.
No. Tibetans are not Chinese, we will never become Chinese. Tibet will become free from China.
All the Himalayan regions, NE India, Burma and Tibetan lands under China will unite to form our unified country Tibet.
@Rangzen555 There is nothing called Himalaya. It's all Zangnan. They are all Chinese territories.
Is it a Chinese propaganda? They sure are eyeing on Myanmar
It's one of the ethnic ones. He keeps deleting responses.
The intention was to make the Bamars outsiders in their own home.
Disregarding the pyu culture and architecture are that of Bamars'.
Eventhough none of those ethnic reserve or resembles those of the pyus.