Thanks for watching! Feel free to ask questions about the time period covered in the episode (there's a wealth of history that we can't include in this format and we'd love to share). Also remember to check below in the pinned comment for corrections. Corrections: 2:04 I'd like to thank my former colleague Dr. Yannick Laurent for pointing out that, during the lifetime of Yeshe O, the capital of Guge was located in the nearby monastic fortress of Tholing (mTho lding) and not in Tsaparang proper. For more on Guge-Purang and kingship in Western Tibet, I can wholeheartedly recommend Yannick Laurent's recent "The Ancient Monastic Complexes of Tholing, Nyarma and Thabo: Buddhist Architecture in the Western Himalayas" or, if you're willing to parse the author's dense prose, then Roberto Vitali's works on Western Tibet are still classics and worth reading today. 2:43 I'm aware that there's a little (and quite frustrating) visual hiccup at the bottom of the frame. No idea what caused this, but it seems to have happened as part of the upload to YT. We'll try to get to the bottom of it to avoid that in the future. Thanks!
Thank you very much for making such lovely videos about Tibetan history, these videos are so very valuable in an age where our culture is being subsumed and forgotten, your efforts are greatly appreciated ❤️
wonderful work indeed! it is quite rare in my experience to see an in depth documentary regarding tibet; the tibetan empire on youtube, but this one truly ‘hits the spot!’ :)
Hey there! Sorry that it took me so long to get to this one. It's a great question and I actually have a number of former colleagues that were on the team that conducted the first serious work on the shaft tombs in Mustang. I've never been myself, I'm afraid, and many of the shaft-tomb sites, which are sometimes colloquially called 'sky caves', (including the major necropolis discovered in Samdzong in 2009) have never been fully excavated. So there are quite a few unknowns. However, the C-14 and AMS dating that they've done, in combination with various bone and tooth samples collected from Samdzong, suggest that the sites were active from the early 5th century AD to the late 9th century, arguably reaching an apex in the 7th century. There's quite a bit of accessible literature written on the site. If you're not an archaeologist or anthropologist, the most accessible is probably written by Mark Altenderfer; however, if you can parse some academic jargon, there's great (more recent) work done on the necropoli in Mustang by Giovanni Massa, Marcos Martinón-Torres, and my former classmate Samara Broglia (who's currently leading a major French-funded dig in the region).
@ many thanks ~ i really appreciate your thoughtful response and the general idea of centuries ~ i wanted to place at least when people would have been there; in whatever capacity. Again, many thanks. ( i had recurring outside of time experience of being in one ~ from young childhood thru til about 43 yrs. i was there, then would pop back and never did it come to the level of talking about it.
Alex: this is a great series! Very informative and the maps really help to explain the geographic power struggles. Compliments to your whole creative team (and its fun to hear your voice-overs again!) I have passed this on to my Buddhist friends.
Hey there! Thanks so much. We'll be discussing the Kagyu and Sakya in a bit of depth next episode and then focusing on the Geluk in episode five, but we don't have the time to go into the depth that each sect deserves in this particular series. But I 100% plan on making a video in the future that focuses specifically on the origins, founders, and early history of each of the major sects (including Bon).
Hey! Thanks so much. And thanks for commenting on the music! It's something I put a lot of time into. The track at 11:05 is a combination of several samples that we licensed from Splice and mixed together with a little Midi keyboard. There's a longer version of the same track at the end of ep3 part 1 (The Fall of the Tibetan Empire).
Hello there! I hope you are all having a good time. I want to know something, I know this is not relating to the current era but i want to know it well, Will Gustaf Mannerheim be mentioned and shown in the Animated history of Tibet ep 8 or 7? I have heard that he had met the 13th Dalai lama at Wutai mountain while he was spying for Russia. He chatted with the Dalai lama for a while and Dalai lama explored the idea of Russia helping to free Tibet from Qing and there were mentions of Russian Buddhist meeting Tibetan buddhist. After talking with the 13th Dalai lama, Gustaf Mannerheim possibly gave and taught him how to use a pistol. The pistol that the 13th Dalai lama was given was called Browning Revolver. And is this incident true? That Gustaf Mannerheim Met the 13th Dalai lama and gave or taught him how to use a pistol? I would like to know about if this fact is true or false? I hope that i am annoying you all with these questions. I hope you all have a great day
Hey there! No worries at all. Off the top of my head I don't know if the Mannerheim story is corroborated by any first hand Tibetan accounts; but I've seen it mentioned in passing in relation to Gustaf Mannerheim's biography (Clements 2012). I'll ask a few of my old colleagues and get back to you on that one. It would be interesting to know if there are Tibetan-language accounts that mention the pistol incident.
What a fantastic series. I have a question: when you get to the point of the downfall of Tibet, do you plan on discussing the corruption of the aristocrats and lamas, and the serfdom of common Tibetan people? Michael Parenti wrote a great article called, "Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth" which does a really good job at debunking a lot of the myth that pre-Communist Tibet was this Shangri-la of Buddhism. Torture, enslavement of serfs, and children being forced into monasticism (or as consorts to lords if they were pretty girls), was pretty common. I'm a Vajrayana Buddhist myself, but I do think it's important to present all aspects of Tibetan society. The Chinese invasion did plenty of awful things, but I do think it's important to not just tell the story purely from the perspective of the aristocracy class.
Who is Michael Parenti ? Is he a Tibetologists or a hack ? There was no serfedom In tibet ... TIbet was more than 80 percent nomadic ... how can there be serfes
@@superbhandle You can search his name easily. He is "an American political scientist, academic historian and cultural critic who writes on scholarly and popular subjects" and if you search that article in question, all the sources are listed below the article.
@@sarakajira I have read his backgroud ... there is nothing about being a Tibetologist or have been to tibet and or speaking TIbetan ? He is a discredited hack and his sources are very very problematic
@@superbhandle he is a journalist. And one does not need to be a Tibetanologist to research and write about Tibetan history, anymore than one needs to be an "Americanologist" to write about American history. Do you have some sources that show he's a "discredited hack" or are you just claiming that? I'd highly suggest reading the article in question. It's fine if you don't agree with things in the article but it is very well-sourced and cited from a wide variety of sources. Calling such a thing a "hack" seems pretty disingenuous. And look, I'm an ordained Tibetan Buddhist myself. I am fully on board with many aspects of Tibet. But every culture, including Tibetan culture has its issues. That's the case in every culture throughout history. To deny that seems a bit silly.
Tashi Delek Armchair academics. Thanks for this research and presentation. Yeshe Ö was indeed a great king and for us Tibetans, he’s an emanation of an enlightened being therefore his name is said with “Lha Lama” Yeshe ö ལྷ་བླ་མ་ཡེ་ཤེས་འོད།
Hello, I am an Tibetan American living in the US. I’ve always been surrounded by Buddhism from my parents to my relatives and always wondered what tibet would be like rn if we weren’t so obsessed with religion. Don’t get me wrong, I think Buddhism is great but it collides with the ideas of war and expansion and obviously values peace over violence. However, this in my opinion is why Tibet is in the state its in today, if we had held the beliefs of Ancient China and continued to trade and expand rather than settle for peace I believe Tibet would be a major power house today. I’m sometimes ashamed Tibet is not on most major world maps and is thought of a region in China. I love history, especially war and expansion, there is a side of me that wishes we had done more back then, at the same time I am proud to be Tibetan and carry as much peace around me as I can.
I suggest you read Tibetan history books of differing perspectives. From western scholars to ordinary Tibetans. You will learn that it is the power mongers who created this downfall of our country. Not religion. Religion and religious figures like even the Dalai Lama have been used for centuries to push the narrative and power of a few families. And these people sided with both Chinese and the English. Whoever benefited them personally the most.
Ladakh in those days was known as Maryul. King Kyide Nyimagon who was a grandson of Tibetan king Lang Dharma established Purang and Maryul was part of Purang. After Nyimagon’s death, his kingdom was divided between his three sons and thus establishing three separate kingdoms: Maryul(Ladakh), Guge-Purang, and Zanskar.
Thanks for watching! Feel free to ask questions about the time period covered in the episode (there's a wealth of history that we can't include in this format and we'd love to share). Also remember to check below in the pinned comment for corrections.
Corrections:
2:04 I'd like to thank my former colleague Dr. Yannick Laurent for pointing out that, during the lifetime of Yeshe O, the capital of Guge was located in the nearby monastic fortress of Tholing (mTho lding) and not in Tsaparang proper. For more on Guge-Purang and kingship in Western Tibet, I can wholeheartedly recommend Yannick Laurent's recent "The Ancient Monastic Complexes of Tholing, Nyarma and Thabo: Buddhist Architecture in the Western Himalayas" or, if you're willing to parse the author's dense prose, then Roberto Vitali's works on Western Tibet are still classics and worth reading today.
2:43 I'm aware that there's a little (and quite frustrating) visual hiccup at the bottom of the frame. No idea what caused this, but it seems to have happened as part of the upload to YT. We'll try to get to the bottom of it to avoid that in the future. Thanks!
May Tibetan Buddhism spreads far and wide, reach roots deep and solid, for the Benefits and Happiness of all!
☸☸☸
Pity the buddhists... They have no god to speak of
Most underrated channel
Thank you very much for making such lovely videos about Tibetan history, these videos are so very valuable in an age where our culture is being subsumed and forgotten, your efforts are greatly appreciated ❤️
Thanks so much! That's really kind of you to say -- and it's much appreciated.
wonderful work indeed!
it is quite rare in my experience to see an in depth documentary regarding tibet; the tibetan empire on youtube, but this one truly ‘hits the spot!’ :)
Thanks so much!
Great series!
👍👍Wonderful job!! Deeply Appreciated!! Thanks!!🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️
Thank you very much for making such lovely videos about Tibetan history
Thank you very much !❤🙏
Yeey! I thought the last one was the end :)
Thank you!
🙏🏼🌈 Thankyou for inviting questions.
>>> i would love to know when was the height of the creation and use of (( sky caves)) in Nepal/ Tibet.
Hey there! Sorry that it took me so long to get to this one. It's a great question and I actually have a number of former colleagues that were on the team that conducted the first serious work on the shaft tombs in Mustang. I've never been myself, I'm afraid, and many of the shaft-tomb sites, which are sometimes colloquially called 'sky caves', (including the major necropolis discovered in Samdzong in 2009) have never been fully excavated. So there are quite a few unknowns. However, the C-14 and AMS dating that they've done, in combination with various bone and tooth samples collected from Samdzong, suggest that the sites were active from the early 5th century AD to the late 9th century, arguably reaching an apex in the 7th century.
There's quite a bit of accessible literature written on the site. If you're not an archaeologist or anthropologist, the most accessible is probably written by Mark Altenderfer; however, if you can parse some academic jargon, there's great (more recent) work done on the necropoli in Mustang by Giovanni Massa, Marcos Martinón-Torres, and my former classmate Samara Broglia (who's currently leading a major French-funded dig in the region).
@ many thanks ~ i really appreciate your thoughtful response and the general idea of centuries ~ i wanted to place at least when people would have been there; in whatever capacity.
Again, many thanks.
( i had recurring outside of time experience of being in one ~ from young childhood thru til about 43 yrs. i was there, then would pop back and never did it come to the level of talking about it.
Waiting for moree. Cant Thank you enough ❤❤❤
Great content!
this format is good. not pedantic, straight to point with main lines, well done!
Excellent. Thank you
Alex: this is a great series! Very informative and the maps really help to explain the geographic power struggles. Compliments to your whole creative team (and its fun to hear your voice-overs again!) I have passed this on to my Buddhist friends.
Thanks so much Kim! It's been a huge labor of love and it's wonderful seeing it start to come together. Wishing you all the best!!
Om Namo Buddha ❤🙏❤🙏❤🙏
This is great, thank you for doing such a wonderful job and researching.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing content
Learn something new every video I watch.
Beautifully made 😊
Thank you! Cheers!
Amazing video ❤
Thank you so much 😀
Please compile all of your videos related to Tibetan history into a single playlist. Thanks !
Just set it up! Can't believe that we hadn't done it yet. I very much appreciate the reminder.
Great
thank you very much..... wish you could make videos on all four sect in tibetan Buddhism ....nyima ,khagu, sakya and ghaluk....
Hey there! Thanks so much. We'll be discussing the Kagyu and Sakya in a bit of depth next episode and then focusing on the Geluk in episode five, but we don't have the time to go into the depth that each sect deserves in this particular series. But I 100% plan on making a video in the future that focuses specifically on the origins, founders, and early history of each of the major sects (including Bon).
🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️
This series is so great! What is the music at 11:05?
Hey! Thanks so much. And thanks for commenting on the music! It's something I put a lot of time into. The track at 11:05 is a combination of several samples that we licensed from Splice and mixed together with a little Midi keyboard. There's a longer version of the same track at the end of ep3 part 1 (The Fall of the Tibetan Empire).
Hello there! I hope you are all having a good time. I want to know something, I know this is not relating to the current era but i want to know it well, Will Gustaf Mannerheim be mentioned and shown in the Animated history of Tibet ep 8 or 7? I have heard that he had met the 13th Dalai lama at Wutai mountain while he was spying for Russia. He chatted with the Dalai lama for a while and Dalai lama explored the idea of Russia helping to free Tibet from Qing and there were mentions of Russian Buddhist meeting Tibetan buddhist. After talking with the 13th Dalai lama, Gustaf Mannerheim possibly gave and taught him how to use a pistol. The pistol that the 13th Dalai lama was given was called Browning Revolver. And is this incident true? That Gustaf Mannerheim Met the 13th Dalai lama and gave or taught him how to use a pistol? I would like to know about if this fact is true or false? I hope that i am annoying you all with these questions. I hope you all have a great day
Cool! Never heard of that!
Hey there! No worries at all. Off the top of my head I don't know if the Mannerheim story is corroborated by any first hand Tibetan accounts; but I've seen it mentioned in passing in relation to Gustaf Mannerheim's biography (Clements 2012). I'll ask a few of my old colleagues and get back to you on that one. It would be interesting to know if there are Tibetan-language accounts that mention the pistol incident.
What a fantastic series. I have a question: when you get to the point of the downfall of Tibet, do you plan on discussing the corruption of the aristocrats and lamas, and the serfdom of common Tibetan people? Michael Parenti wrote a great article called, "Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth" which does a really good job at debunking a lot of the myth that pre-Communist Tibet was this Shangri-la of Buddhism. Torture, enslavement of serfs, and children being forced into monasticism (or as consorts to lords if they were pretty girls), was pretty common. I'm a Vajrayana Buddhist myself, but I do think it's important to present all aspects of Tibetan society. The Chinese invasion did plenty of awful things, but I do think it's important to not just tell the story purely from the perspective of the aristocracy class.
Who is Michael Parenti ? Is he a Tibetologists or a hack ? There was no serfedom In tibet ... TIbet was more than 80 percent nomadic ... how can there be serfes
@@superbhandle You can search his name easily. He is "an American political scientist, academic historian and cultural critic who writes on scholarly and popular subjects" and if you search that article in question, all the sources are listed below the article.
@@sarakajira I have read his backgroud ... there is nothing about being a Tibetologist or have been to tibet and or speaking TIbetan ? He is a discredited hack and his sources are very very problematic
@superbhandle there are CCP bots. They'll never accept truth 😢😢
@@superbhandle he is a journalist. And one does not need to be a Tibetanologist to research and write about Tibetan history, anymore than one needs to be an "Americanologist" to write about American history. Do you have some sources that show he's a "discredited hack" or are you just claiming that? I'd highly suggest reading the article in question. It's fine if you don't agree with things in the article but it is very well-sourced and cited from a wide variety of sources. Calling such a thing a "hack" seems pretty disingenuous.
And look, I'm an ordained Tibetan Buddhist myself. I am fully on board with many aspects of Tibet. But every culture, including Tibetan culture has its issues. That's the case in every culture throughout history. To deny that seems a bit silly.
Tashi Delek Armchair academics. Thanks for this research and presentation. Yeshe Ö was indeed a great king and for us Tibetans, he’s an emanation of an enlightened being therefore his name is said with “Lha Lama” Yeshe ö ལྷ་བླ་མ་ཡེ་ཤེས་འོད།
Good jop
I am ex muslim now buddhist❤
Hello, I am an Tibetan American living in the US. I’ve always been surrounded by Buddhism from my parents to my relatives and always wondered what tibet would be like rn if we weren’t so obsessed with religion. Don’t get me wrong, I think Buddhism is great but it collides with the ideas of war and expansion and obviously values peace over violence. However, this in my opinion is why Tibet is in the state its in today, if we had held the beliefs of Ancient China and continued to trade and expand rather than settle for peace I believe Tibet would be a major power house today. I’m sometimes ashamed Tibet is not on most major world maps and is thought of a region in China. I love history, especially war and expansion, there is a side of me that wishes we had done more back then, at the same time I am proud to be Tibetan and carry as much peace around me as I can.
I suggest you read Tibetan history books of differing perspectives. From western scholars to ordinary Tibetans. You will learn that it is the power mongers who created this downfall of our country. Not religion. Religion and religious figures like even the Dalai Lama have been used for centuries to push the narrative and power of a few families. And these people sided with both Chinese and the English. Whoever benefited them personally the most.
Same feeling here, man. 💯
Why was my response deleted by admin?????
The great gods of Bonn
how they easily forget Ladakh. once a powerful western tibet kingdom, territories of which included guge purang and ngari skor sum.
Ladakh in those days was known as Maryul. King Kyide Nyimagon who was a grandson of Tibetan king Lang Dharma established Purang and Maryul was part of Purang. After Nyimagon’s death, his kingdom was divided between his three sons and thus establishing three separate kingdoms: Maryul(Ladakh), Guge-Purang, and Zanskar.