SLIP TEST - Kia Sportage AWD - gen IV vs gen III -

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    Kia Sportage 1.6 T-GDI AWD (2019)
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    Kia Sportage 2.0 AWD (2012)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 132

  • @user-fy2qq2ih4d
    @user-fy2qq2ih4d 4 роки тому +67

    It's a great idea - testing different generations!

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  4 роки тому +5

      Thanks. It already happened before :)
      Mitsubishi Outlander: ua-cam.com/video/xa2x_M6HmKE/v-deo.html
      Audi Q5: ua-cam.com/video/PftzZWpTJFY/v-deo.html
      Audi A6: ua-cam.com/video/nPvo6obv-9Q/v-deo.html
      Suzuki Jimny: ua-cam.com/video/CZ338UvMI8M/v-deo.html
      Suzuki SX4: ua-cam.com/video/uJro4jLwWtA/v-deo.html
      Dacia Duster: ua-cam.com/video/l7o6uw9MKyQ/v-deo.html

    • @a.d.2837
      @a.d.2837 4 роки тому

      👍👍👍

    • @Evgeniy87kz
      @Evgeniy87kz 2 роки тому

      no difference beetwen them/ in 3th generation stupid driver who overspinning wheel/ Esp works on low speed (difflock immitation). And the most useless button in this cars is "LOCK" I have 3th gen kia and no difference with this mode

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  2 роки тому +1

      @@Evgeniy87kz Before you call anybody a stupid you must learn what ESP is. It has nothing to do with diff lock imitation. And for your information - at low throttle nothing happens.

  • @shawnhamlin5963
    @shawnhamlin5963 4 роки тому +15

    I bought a 2012 brand new with the 2.0 Turbo engine. Honestly, I wish I still had it. That was the best car I have ever owned. Especially quick for an SUV, nice tight steering and fantastic brakes. I will most likely buy another one just like it if I can find one at a reasonable price for that year model.

    • @tumwalinx3729
      @tumwalinx3729 3 роки тому +4

      you and me both. I owned the 2012 sx turbo 260hp.. that turbo when it kicks in oh boy 👍🏿. that's my favourite sportage when it comes to raw power...very quick suv, faster than most in the same price range

  • @GraveUypo
    @GraveUypo 4 роки тому +4

    this was very educational.

  • @sgv2753
    @sgv2753 4 роки тому +1

    Nice !

  • @regentrainer7305
    @regentrainer7305 2 роки тому +5

    kia 2012 is beautiful and the best of one

  • @SilentWarriorEU
    @SilentWarriorEU 4 роки тому +15

    There is some, but quite slight progress in new, 2019 generation. New software and alghoritm to the same AWD drive ?

    • @TheS1PikesPeak
      @TheS1PikesPeak 4 роки тому +3

      CharlieKPoland Yes, same AWD from Austria.

  • @aass794
    @aass794 3 роки тому +2

    1:24 motocycle wheelie sound lol

  • @csimobtranzact-fs3kd
    @csimobtranzact-fs3kd 6 місяців тому +1

    What is the model for wheels in sportage 4? It is very beautiful...

  • @piciu256
    @piciu256 4 роки тому +1

    That's pretty good

  • @sgv2753
    @sgv2753 3 роки тому +1

    Like !

  • @user-wb7py2oj6e
    @user-wb7py2oj6e 4 роки тому +3

    Киа супер!!!

  • @subazealand9158
    @subazealand9158 4 роки тому +3

    Why you didn't try in the new one with ESP off?

  • @VetiXil
    @VetiXil 4 роки тому +1

    W mojej Sportage 2 2006r. jest zastosowana blokada tylniego mostu LSD czyli coś ala szpera. Ciekawe jakby sobie poradziła w tym teście 🤔

  • @user-cg7uw9uh6n
    @user-cg7uw9uh6n 3 роки тому +2

    I'm on my second 2lt awd sportage and when I did some research before buying I found that kia Hyundai Mercedes bmw now some Audi all use the Magna powertrain awd system. Probably they are differ in spec ect

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 роки тому +1

      They are using different awd systems from Magna (Dynamax, Actimax, Ecomax, Flex4 etc.). But the most important is software which is individual for each brand.

    • @user-cg7uw9uh6n
      @user-cg7uw9uh6n 3 роки тому

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers so could you upgrade your software so it would preform differently

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 роки тому +3

      @@user-cg7uw9uh6n It is not that easy. Actually it is extremely complicated...

    • @user-cg7uw9uh6n
      @user-cg7uw9uh6n 3 роки тому

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers ok.. I can't really complain as I went from a rear wheel drive to awd and certainly noticed a big difference in the winter

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 роки тому +2

      @@user-cg7uw9uh6n Check the test of Sorento on my channel. It uses the same Dynamax system as Sportage but with different programming. The point is that software must control not only the awd coupler but also brakes, engine etc.

  • @cerato227
    @cerato227 8 місяців тому +2

    3 спорт все равно красивей и брутальнее

  • @muntderpubg2258
    @muntderpubg2258 2 роки тому +1

    I love 2012

  • @dannyboy1984
    @dannyboy1984 4 роки тому +10

    That center lock diff button is a gimmick ! Does'nt change anything

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  4 роки тому +5

      It does, awd system is permanently engaged.

    • @LawrenceAbramoff
      @LawrenceAbramoff 3 роки тому

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers I'm sorry, the above guy is correct! It's still a 2WD. It doesn't have any LSDs so it won't perform any differently ... aftermarket add them and it will be a good button

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 роки тому +3

      @@LawrenceAbramoff Nope. Lock button keeps the CLUTCH-PACK constantly compressed up to a certain speed so it is not 2WD.

    • @LawrenceAbramoff
      @LawrenceAbramoff 3 роки тому

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers sorry, I meant 2WD as in 1 wheel per axle. ie it will still spin all it's power away if any wheels on both axles don't have grip simultaneously. Thanks for the explanation though mate 👍

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 роки тому

      @@LawrenceAbramoff There is traction control for that instead of lsd 🙂

  • @anonim1133
    @anonim1133 3 роки тому +1

    Tak patrząc po testach, to Vitara ma chyba dużo sprawniejszy napęd? Ale wychodzi na to, że ten od Kia też tragiczny nie jest i do bezpiecznego przmieszczania powinien być "ok"?

  • @DodgyDave
    @DodgyDave Рік тому

    Diff Lock automatically disengages at 24 mph, by the look of the wheels they are travelling at more than that

  • @James101
    @James101 3 роки тому

    Having owed a Landrover Discovery going off road and up extreeme rocky and muddy hills with absolutely no issue or drama I have now bought a Kia Sportage and welcome the lower ability level of this car as it gives a more challenging drive but still gets everywhere the Discovery did. The landrover was fun dont get me wrong but the Sportage is way more fun. You have to be on or near the edge of the limits to feel engaged, if its too easy its dull hence getting rid of the Discovery.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 роки тому

      Here is Land Rover Discovery (version with two auto lockers): ua-cam.com/video/1lBe2ao3j1Q/v-deo.html

  • @fablan3308
    @fablan3308 4 роки тому +3

    What's the alloys wheels called on the 2019 model

    • @tj86xj
      @tj86xj 4 роки тому +1

      fab lan - Alloy wheels

    • @fablan3308
      @fablan3308 4 роки тому +2

      @@tj86xj thanks for that that really helpful

    • @thatoliveguy7389
      @thatoliveguy7389 2 роки тому +2

      @@fablan3308 those are the stock ones with the GtLine trim

    • @fablan3308
      @fablan3308 2 роки тому

      @@thatoliveguy7389 thank you my Sportage terrible
      Off-road

  • @silviannistor
    @silviannistor 3 роки тому +4

    Looks like both have big problems on 3 rollers. My budget constrained me to chose between old sportage and new vitara. I m glad i chose vitara, honestly it mops the floor with both kia's, despite being an auto awd, not permanent

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 роки тому

      This video about proactive awd was made on the basis of Vitara, tells a lot about All Grip Select: ua-cam.com/video/N_SCul259hc/v-deo.html

    • @Evgeniy87kz
      @Evgeniy87kz 2 роки тому

      99% of cars would have problems with three rollers

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  2 роки тому

      @@Evgeniy87kz More or less 50%.

    • @NextGenGamer1
      @NextGenGamer1 Рік тому +1

      Honestly how can you even compare them. A 1.4 Suzuki with abysmal interiors and meh exterior, I never liked them, plus they are almost 50% cheaper than the top trim Sportage so it's not even the same category.

    • @silviannistor
      @silviannistor Рік тому

      @@NextGenGamer1 no, they are not. Suzuki is for my wife, used like a city car. I bought since then a Dacia duster for myself, because i do a lot of forrest roads. A friend has the sportage. They are not in the same category, the idea is, Duster with it s ground clearance, attack&departure angles and a set of all terrain tires can climb the top of the mountain. Suzuki goes as long as it s ground clearance allows. Last winter, i had to get out my friend in the awd sportage 1 km from the paved road. It s a lot of car for the money, but unfortunately offroad capabilities are nowhere to be found

  • @moonsapling
    @moonsapling 4 роки тому +1

    is the 2019 model shown in the video a 1.6T DCT or its a manual?

  • @felipesantana4847
    @felipesantana4847 2 роки тому +1

    Witam, mam AWD Sportage 2011 i zastanawiałem się, czy możesz mi coś powiedzieć o jego zużyciu w stosunku do takiego, który nie jest AWD? Tutaj w Brazylii prawie nie mamy tej wersji AWD, więc nie wiem, czy moja zużywa dużo, czy naprawdę AWD zużywa znacznie więcej niż wersja bez AWD. Dziękuję.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  2 роки тому

      Witam, niestety nie mam informacji na temat Sportage. W przypadku innych, podobnych samochodów wersje AWD zużywają do jednego litra więcej niż wersje 2WD.

    • @felipesantana4847
      @felipesantana4847 2 роки тому +1

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers rozumiem, dzięki

    • @albertgrillo7453
      @albertgrillo7453 2 роки тому

      Certo che consuma di più....la mia 2015...Sportage 600 km con un pieno....è più pesante...

    • @yanouzaryanouzar9992
      @yanouzaryanouzar9992 Рік тому

      7.5 l en moyenne pour le 2.0 crdi 136 awd en boite manuelle

    • @MegaTrdi
      @MegaTrdi Рік тому

      6.0 l/100km, AWD crdi 2.0. 11 years old now without any issue. 💪💪👌👌

  • @ilhanarazz
    @ilhanarazz 2 роки тому

    Sportage 2. Is there any test between 2005 and 2009?

  • @ozkanugurcetin2842
    @ozkanugurcetin2842 4 роки тому +2

    Does 2019 version has H trac awd system?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  4 роки тому +4

      I think that only Hyundai is using HTRAC name. Haven't seen it related to Kia, but it is one system from Magna Powertrain.

    • @ukaszgrzybek2769
      @ukaszgrzybek2769 4 роки тому

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers in Sorento they use Dynamax which was working well in some tests, does Sportage have the same? or simpler? There is plenty of wheelspin btw dynamax would apply brakes in order to slow the wheels down. Would like to see you test the upcomming Subaru Forester with the X mode 2.0

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  4 роки тому +1

      @@ukaszgrzybek2769 Both use the same Dynamax, however I don't know if software control is the same. Both are using brakes.

    • @overzealus
      @overzealus 4 роки тому +1

      Actually Hyundai HTRAC is just a marketing bullshit. It's the same Magna Dynamax clutch. You can compare part numbers of the AWD clutch for 2019 Sportage WITHOUT HTRAC with 2019 Hyundai Tucson WITH HTRAC - they are the same :)
      And even more - they are the same for older generations of Sportage/Tucson/Santa Fe/Sorento too :)
      So, Hyundai HTRAC on SUV is nothing more, than a logo.

    • @duncansampson8120
      @duncansampson8120 Рік тому

      @@overzealus they will do as hyundai own kia so they will be sharing as makes sense

  • @islmosmnl5671
    @islmosmnl5671 3 місяці тому

    Ustadim bendede var bu nasil bir 4 çeker kilit sistemi 4 lastigi ayni anda dondurebilme imkani yakmu? Profesyonel bir sistem degil! 5 cm karda kaldim yurumedi sportage? 2.0 crdi 2016 gt lina Awd! 2014 2.0 crdi awd vardi oda aynisiydi, yazilimla falan 4 cekeri hareket kabiliyeti arttirilamazmi,

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 місяці тому

      Getting stuck in 5 cm snow means your tyre choice was wrong, even 2WD car should not have problems with that. When it comes to LOCK - this function locks the axles together, not the wheels. If you want all wheels to spin, you must rely on traction control system, meaning brake intervention. Newer Sportage has better tuned TC system.

  • @alexandrut3089
    @alexandrut3089 4 роки тому +4

    Now make a video with all wheels suspended.

    • @TheEMan621
      @TheEMan621 3 роки тому

      "E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E"

  • @normt5463
    @normt5463 4 роки тому +3

    HTRAC....sucks at 4:20 onward.

    • @dannyboy1984
      @dannyboy1984 4 роки тому +1

      Htrac is on Hyundai only Kia use the Dynamax on their Sportage ! I think the new santa fe with the HTRAC did better by the way

  • @tomaszrosinski4202
    @tomaszrosinski4202 4 роки тому +1

    To nie jest blokada układu różnicowego tylko załączenie tylnego napędu bez wykrycia poślizgu przedniej osi. Gdyby była blokada dyferencjalu jedno koło by sprawnie ruszyło samochód zmiejsca

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  4 роки тому +1

      Tryb AUTO także załącza tylną oś bez uślizgu przedniej. Różnica polega na tym, że LOCK do pewnej prędkości utrzymuje układ stale spięty, niezależnie od sytuacji.

    • @tomaszrosinski4202
      @tomaszrosinski4202 4 роки тому

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers
      To jaka jest w takim razie różnica między trybem auto A trybem lock? Nie ma takiego samochodu więc pytam:)

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  4 роки тому +5

      @@tomaszrosinski4202 Przy ruszaniu prawie żadna, obydwa tryby ruszają z czterech łap. LOCK będzie cały czas trzymał napęd spięty do ~40 km/h, AUTO po ruszeniu analizuje sytuację i komputer decyduje, czy napędzać tylną oś czy nie, a jeśli tak - to w jakim stopniu.

  • @meow69..
    @meow69.. 2 роки тому

    No

  • @szpitalpsychiatrycznywchor2155
    @szpitalpsychiatrycznywchor2155 4 роки тому +1

    Kia 😘

  • @Arh_City
    @Arh_City 2 роки тому

    Выводы делайте сами...

  • @ameliamcintosh2646
    @ameliamcintosh2646 4 місяці тому +1

    i wanna do a burnout in my kia sportage

  • @elturco7779
    @elturco7779 3 роки тому

    2012 model is better or not?

  • @xboxice2005
    @xboxice2005 4 роки тому

    They did good but all these small SUV seem to not know what lock is or mean,lock doesn't mean lock in the small SUV segment 🤣

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  4 роки тому +1

      In this type of cars "lock" usually means that awd system is permanently engaged. Not locked.

    • @xboxice2005
      @xboxice2005 4 роки тому

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers yeah 🤣👍

    • @islmosmnl5671
      @islmosmnl5671 3 місяці тому

      Bütün yorumlari okudum 😂 ve aradigim en mantıklı yorumu buldum dostum 😂 bendede 2016 gt line 2.0 crdi 184 hp var, awd su tuş orda niye durduğunu bilmiyor gibime geliyor, hatta ara sira bakip etrafindaki tuslara benim gorevim tam olarak ne diye defalarca sordugunu düşünüyorum 😂😂😂 saygılar üstadım

  • @defrimdushica2785
    @defrimdushica2785 2 роки тому

    What is Lock ??

  • @patBARBUTBP
    @patBARBUTBP Рік тому

    kia sportage est t-il un 4x4 permanent?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Рік тому

      Probably not, that depends on software controlling the awd clutch-pack.

  • @ysmith494
    @ysmith494 4 роки тому +1

    I have the 2018 sportage. Should have put it in 4 wheel drive lock.

    • @ysmith494
      @ysmith494 4 роки тому +2

      Damn! Just noticed the icons on the bottom left screen. 😕

  • @jpch8814
    @jpch8814 4 роки тому +4

    The old one is horrible !

    • @kustu
      @kustu 4 роки тому +1

      Why?

    • @jpch8814
      @jpch8814 4 роки тому +4

      @@kustu Did you not watch the video? It could not pass half of the tests, it was always getting stuck.

    • @kustu
      @kustu 4 роки тому +2

      @@jpch8814 It doesn't make the car horrible...

    • @silviannistor
      @silviannistor 3 роки тому +2

      @@kustu from traction perspective it actually does

    • @kustu
      @kustu 3 роки тому +1

      @@silviannistor Sportage is a nice car, but the AWD in it isn't much better than FWD.

  • @tylermansell835
    @tylermansell835 3 роки тому +3

    This video is proof that kias’ suck. A Subaru or an Audi would’ve done those tests in a 1/16 of the time.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 роки тому +1

      I suggest that watch this: ua-cam.com/video/wUFE6Y3ODAg/v-deo.html

  • @Hasohaso9
    @Hasohaso9 4 роки тому +4

    Quatro all the way

  • @Mankan569
    @Mankan569 27 днів тому

    Slip test🤔🤭 do it on SNOW

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  27 днів тому

      It's difficult during the summer.

    • @Mankan569
      @Mankan569 27 днів тому

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers I agree with that. But to get a "fair" assessment, it's snow or mud. which shows the characteristics of this type of 4WD. We have a Kia sportage a Kia Sorento but this type of 4WD is not "real" 4WD. But works in some situations. I also have a JEEP Liberty. It has 4WD 😉

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  27 днів тому

      @@Mankan569 This test is a simulation, providing the same conditions for each car. Furthermore, tyres do not influence the results, so 4WD system itself is put to the test in situations of low grip of certain wheels.

  • @jessebrinker3706
    @jessebrinker3706 3 роки тому

    Well that's disappointing.

  • @BirdsofEurope
    @BirdsofEurope 2 роки тому

    Kia Sorento is much better!

  • @user-ug8xd1iz9k
    @user-ug8xd1iz9k 4 роки тому

    🤦‍♂️

  • @juanjimenezf8227
    @juanjimenezf8227 4 роки тому

    Stinger

  • @billydewillie297
    @billydewillie297 4 роки тому +3

    Bad,bad,bad and more bad!

  • @Hasohaso9
    @Hasohaso9 4 роки тому +1

    Haha china never be audi

    • @SilentWarriorEU
      @SilentWarriorEU 4 роки тому +8

      Korea ;)

    • @Hardyno
      @Hardyno 4 роки тому +4

      New Audi is like classic haldex shit... ha ha ... ua-cam.com/video/TrkAcpJzUI0/v-deo.html

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  4 роки тому +2

      @@Hardyno You linked Quattro with torsen...

    • @Hardyno
      @Hardyno 4 роки тому

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers yes, you are right...and that's why it's even sadder...

    • @maciek11111199
      @maciek11111199 4 роки тому +2

      My kia sportange is made in Slovakia.