I was around for the 2012 release people complained about those too. I got my pair 3 weeks after release. People hated them fast forward a few years they became grails. Same will happen to these. Mark my words.
2nd drop came as a sort of surprise here in Oz that it's so readily available and can be bought easily. Got a pair. Up close the upper's more of an off white/light grey. Fit is alright as re-imagines.
I just got these in and threw them straight back in the box, was so pumped the grey just killed it for me. Supposed to be sail, even my 2012’s looked better
I’ve just add these Military Blue to my collection and I’ve sent back the Bred Reimagined didn’t like them. These are fire and can’t wait to rock them asap .Peace 🤜
Definitely was worth the wait and I’m completely satisfied with my pair…”Got Em” on release day off the SNKRS app…haven’t hit on any 4s (that I wanted) prior to this one. Clean shoe imo🔥🔥🔥💯
I never really went back to wearing Jordans after New Balance. You're right, there are levels to this. After I got in my 40's I noticed how not wearing the right shoes will give you back and knee problems you've never had prior. I told myself that this summer will be a Jordan summer since I haven't been wearing them at all, and I gotta say, I'm not looking forward to it. 😢
I was looking forward to this pair after picking up the bred reimagined. However after seeing lots of reviews and comparing to the materials on the bred reimagined i passed. Personally I just prefer a softer material that isn't comparable to a standard Air Force 1.
@@JoshDominic I almost always liked that one off color the best when it comes to the retro Jordans. Probably because it was so unique compared to always getting black and red color ways. Flint 13s, Bordeaux 7s, Aqua 8s, all favorites lol
I also like the military 4s the best of the og color ways, but after seeing those sapphire sbs i decided to wait this one out. Fingers crossed that they look like the mockup cause those are so nice 👍🏾
i hit these on the shock drop in the US, and my pair came in with NO flaws, and they also fit me snug... i was a bit shocked bc everyone kept saying the new shape was better. anyways i now have the 2012 pair and the 2024 pair, so im happy. both are not that comfortable, if that helps anyone out lol.
I like the colorway but if the leather is not nice i ain’t buying them. I hate dunk level coating like on this one. The bred 4s are way much better from leather and comfortwise - will double up on them ! So I don’t agree “Jordan leather had not been nice for a decade “ keep cranking out those videos !!! Cheers
Really good video, Josh! Would like to see a fit video if you don’t mind. I’m anxiously waiting for my pairs to show up. I’m picking between kids and men’s sizes for best quality.
Any thoughts on that Bike Jordan 4 that’s been going around? I’ve never been a fan of 4s but those look just different and nice enough I must have them
Mine came with the lower lace loops on the left side a couple of mm offset from the right side. Pretty disappointed about that. Should not have passed qc imho.going try ti ingnore the unequalness since in like them too mucht…. 🤙🏼
Got 2 pairs...I just noticed on the my first pair, although I really like them. They're not symmetrical at all, the nubuck mud guard is cut way higher on the right shoe compared to the left
Excited to get them in hand. Copped 2 to pick the better one and can flip the other for a small discount on mine. Idk why JB disrespects the OG 4s so hard witb the materials though, it's the same on every pair - then a spin off like the reimagined bred gets great materials 🤷♂️ I'd have paid £10 more like the breds for better leather
If you think these suck simply because the resale isn't high, then you have no taste and somewhere along the line you lost sight of the whole point of being a sneaker enthusiast.
I hit on that Nike drop a few weeks back, there’s nothing wrong w them. I put them next to my 2012 pair and the quality is better than those and it has the Nike Air. Stop complaining about a slight shade of blue darker, get over it.
i returned mine today coz of quality issue in nike store outlet.. i have 2 exclusive access aswell on SNKRS, i won in foot patrol raffle, END ,SNS.. its not hard to get..
Been waiting on these for over a decade. I wish the upper was a little better in quality but Nike and jordan kind of sold on us by not doing more for this. I’m still gonna buy cause they’re fire. But they could be so much better
I can't exactly say why these don't move me and I know I am in the minority but I prefer the soon to be released 4 Oxidized green color way. Always appreciate your down to earth reviews.
For me, although they’re cool. They’re not worth the cash. Worst of the original colourways and he didn’t wear them. Pass, would prefer the upcoming green option aka the poor man’s pine green. I need some more ASICS
I think people have a right to speak of the cons just as well as the pros period🤨 If you purchased enjoy them. However if people that have waited on these shoes for so long expected better quality or comfort it is nothing wrong with that. That's like going to a restaurant and waiting for a tomahawk steak over 100.00 and they give you a ribeye. Still a good piece of meat and maybe even taste good, but it is not what you order. If people wanted better quality for a higher price point than let's get it. I passed just because it was not a must. The Bred 4's were to a standard I could live with so I purchased
You can't judge comfort on a Jordan 4 out of the box. It takes a few weeks of wear to break them in. They are a bit heavy and boot like, but once broken in the comfiest retro style Jordan.
@@Neil-qg9cw 4s kill my toes for the first 3 weeks or so. Then they break in. 3s are definitely more comfortable out of the box though. I find the 3s get less comfortable over time though, as the sole compresses and gets stiff.
In wearing the 2019 black cement 4's and 2020 black cat 4's.....those bever broke in for me. The stress areas just made wearing them a terrible experience. So i just went up a half size in these and will throw in a better insole to make up for the little bit of extra space
Pretty happy for the release of these, as they are the only missing OG colourway in my collection. I'm less happy with the material and quality (control), my SNKRS shockdrop pair came with scratches on the leather and I think that pearloid hue makes the leather look cheapish. Pairs were a lot harder to get than expected, but luckily some shops are still awaiting delivery from Nike, so there is still a chance to get a flawless pair for retail.
Yall do realize these are supposed to be like the 89 pair. The 2012 pair was not the correct blue so that’s why people are complaining. Ian trippin tho cs I got a pair😂
People complaining about this pair should just return it, get their money back and move on with their life. Let US the people who appreciate this pair for what it is be happy. I certainly am!
My right shoe came fully fucked up, the whole grey bit is smooth no texture no movement like on the other shoe ?!?!? and massive crease looks like they bein used for like a month wtf
Surprisingly passed on them - I've got the Sb 4rs they share a very very similar design. The military blue is the best OG Jordan 4 color way by far tho. But despite these being more true to the OG I prefer the 2012 color way (but the shape on the 2024 it perfect)
The Nike and jordan retro are using outdated tech and the shoes hype is dead, people are looking for more comfortable shoes and in the case of the samba more affordable and available shoes.
Nice vid and greetings from vienna :) Unfortunately these are going to be the new Panda dunks. Soon you will see them anywhere and everywhere. I was so looking forward to them to release but honestly I am not really feeling the colorway of white and the materials are the same shitty leather like we had on the fire red 4s. Not sure I am going to keep or return 🙁 I was at least expecting to get a similar quality like we had on the military black 4s.
Shoetubers are mad at this cause they cannot resell them for 400 beans that it period
Yup
I aint mad at these at all, I BEEN WAITING for these to drop all year
You’re right. If you just wanted to wear them, you’d just be stoked you got them.
Honestly, I feel like people are just sheep and they’re just bandwagoning on hating these shoes
As long as I’m able to cop them I can get behind this kind of bandwagoning
I was around for the 2012 release people complained about those too. I got my pair 3 weeks after release. People hated them fast forward a few years they became grails. Same will happen to these. Mark my words.
Preach , people want only what's very limited to get 😂 not the actual sneakers
wrd they tryna treat these like pandas 😂😂
Duhhhh. People wearing got damn ASICS like they cool lol of course they sheep 😂
Just scored a pair! Haven’t had a pair for almost 20 years (since 06). So happy with the OG details and aesthetics!
Awesome
2nd drop came as a sort of surprise here in Oz that it's so readily available and can be bought easily. Got a pair. Up close the upper's more of an off white/light grey. Fit is alright as re-imagines.
Yo i needed this review my wide feet brethren. Im always looking for ur sizing guide. Thnks JD.
Ya these joints are 🔥, I noticed the blue hue on these as well. I wasn’t mad about it at all. They are super clean.
I just got these in and threw them straight back in the box, was so pumped the grey just killed it for me. Supposed to be sail, even my 2012’s looked better
I’ve just add these Military Blue to my collection and I’ve sent back the Bred Reimagined didn’t like them. These are fire and can’t wait to rock them asap .Peace 🤜
I had to have both of them
Outfit video would be fire, hope to see it. Great review!
Def need the styling vid man!
Damn ya weirdo’s…
I am happy with these. Finally completed my Jordan 4 OG pack since 2016.
Need the white cements in the OG cut.
thats dope bro
so munz in tha bunz!
Definitely was worth the wait and I’m completely satisfied with my pair…”Got Em” on release day off the SNKRS app…haven’t hit on any 4s (that I wanted) prior to this one. Clean shoe imo🔥🔥🔥💯
oh, and yeah lets get an outfit video for the MB 4's!
I never really went back to wearing Jordans after New Balance. You're right, there are levels to this. After I got in my 40's I noticed how not wearing the right shoes will give you back and knee problems you've never had prior. I told myself that this summer will be a Jordan summer since I haven't been wearing them at all, and I gotta say, I'm not looking forward to it. 😢
That’s hilarious man 🤣🤣
Brother, Just another banger review!!!
I was looking forward to this pair after picking up the bred reimagined. However after seeing lots of reviews and comparing to the materials on the bred reimagined i passed. Personally I just prefer a softer material that isn't comparable to a standard Air Force 1.
The cut on the 2012s are dope but maybe it’s the nostalgia for me that the Nike on the back of the 2024 makes it the goat military blue retro
The Military Blue 4s are my favorite 4s as well. Same withe the 6s. The Maroons are my favorites.
Glad I’m not the only one, Military Blues 🐐
@@JoshDominic I almost always liked that one off color the best when it comes to the retro Jordans. Probably because it was so unique compared to always getting black and red color ways. Flint 13s, Bordeaux 7s, Aqua 8s, all favorites lol
On the hunt for the maroons beautiful sneaker
I also like the military 4s the best of the og color ways, but after seeing those sapphire sbs i decided to wait this one out. Fingers crossed that they look like the mockup cause those are so nice 👍🏾
Its the gum bottoms, cant go wrong with those
i hit these on the shock drop in the US, and my pair came in with NO flaws, and they also fit me snug... i was a bit shocked bc everyone kept saying the new shape was better. anyways i now have the 2012 pair and the 2024 pair, so im happy. both are not that comfortable, if that helps anyone out lol.
yea they a bit snug for sure
@@JoshDominic after wearing each, i can say it’s funny because the 2012 pair is snug in the same spot for me… in the pinky toe
Definitely need the styling video!!
Got it
We need a remastered WC 4 closer to the original with this shape. I was really disappointed with the 2016 pair.
I like the colorway but if the leather is not nice i ain’t buying them. I hate dunk level coating like on this one. The bred 4s are way much better from leather and comfortwise - will double up on them ! So I don’t agree “Jordan leather had not been nice for a decade “ keep cranking out those videos !!! Cheers
Yea they really shuold have given us that good leather like the Breds
The leather does have a blue-ish tint/ hue to them. Kinda throws it off for me
I thought that too but got a pair anyway. They do not look as tinted blue in real life. Seems to be way more obvious in video and photos.
@@philjohnston1024 gotcha, my pair should be coming in tomorrow or Tuesday, so hopefully you’re right man
Got a pair of these love them a lot and all your videos would appreciate a fit vid 🫡✍️🔥🌞
Great enjoy the shoes
Just found your channel and nice Review. Greetings from over Europe 🎉
🙏 thank you
Copped the Breds and these now I’m praying we get a white cement retro
Really good video, Josh! Would like to see a fit video if you don’t mind. I’m anxiously waiting for my pairs to show up. I’m picking between kids and men’s sizes for best quality.
Enjoy your pair man
I didn't get them when they dropped but bought them on stock x right after
Blue is my favorite color. Glad I got a pair.
I actually like them more because they are more grey and not white.
Bought a pair from hibbett, foot locker, flight club, and snipes. Kept a pair for myself and made a $100 profit off each sneaker sold!
wow thats crazy that you made that much profit because the prices are quite low right now
I didnt go for these - there are other colorways I want more, so I didnt want to get in the way of anyone who wanted them.
For me is was how stiff the leather was. Made it feel like a GR Jordan 1 mid. Still a great shoe but materials could have been better.
Totally agree with you on the materials
after wearing mine for 2 weeks, i want to double up
They're mad because so many pairs were made; it hurts resale value and the egos of hypebeasts.
Any thoughts on that Bike Jordan 4 that’s been going around? I’ve never been a fan of 4s but those look just different and nice enough I must have them
Not feeling the look of those tbh, look like some Team Jordans to me
I want to like these but having Fire Reds, Breds and SB4s these just don’t do it for me.
My pair were perfect but one thing no one talks about is the chunky toe- it’s not OG at all
Mine came with the lower lace loops on the left side a couple of mm offset from the right side. Pretty disappointed about that. Should not have passed qc imho.going try ti ingnore the unequalness since in like them too mucht…. 🤙🏼
Got 2 pairs...I just noticed on the my first pair, although I really like them. They're not symmetrical at all, the nubuck mud guard is cut way higher on the right shoe compared to the left
the QC issues have been very bad with these
Excited to get them in hand. Copped 2 to pick the better one and can flip the other for a small discount on mine. Idk why JB disrespects the OG 4s so hard witb the materials though, it's the same on every pair - then a spin off like the reimagined bred gets great materials 🤷♂️ I'd have paid £10 more like the breds for better leather
Yea honestly I wish there was better leather
i returned mine today... poor quality imo
Only my pair had intense af glue smell?
I’m hyped I was able to cop on shock drop
OG Shape, OG colors and all in all a beautiful shoe. QC on my pair is good as well. It's just the leather quality that is doo doo
Uhh this is premium smooth leather ..you probably got UAs 😂
@@MARTPERE this is anything but premium. It's very plasticy and I got my pair straight from Nike
@Zockanumber1 even nike said it's premium leather on the site google smooth leather if you get a chance ..people think tumbled leather is better nope
@MARTPERE People still talking about 'UAs' in 2024? Biggest myth in the game
I love ppl are complaining I went to my local retail store and got em for retail 💪🏽💪🏽😂
If you think these suck simply because the resale isn't high, then you have no taste and somewhere along the line you lost sight of the whole point of being a sneaker enthusiast.
The only people upset are resellers. Nike is starting to smarten up. Have you seen the quality of reps nowadays?
I hit on that Nike drop a few weeks back, there’s nothing wrong w them. I put them next to my 2012 pair and the quality is better than those and it has the Nike Air. Stop complaining about a slight shade of blue darker, get over it.
So many complaints about these for real but like I said im so happ to get them
Pass
i returned mine today coz of quality issue in nike store outlet.. i have 2 exclusive access aswell on SNKRS, i won in foot patrol raffle, END ,SNS.. its not hard to get..
Been waiting on these for over a decade. I wish the upper was a little better in quality but Nike and jordan kind of sold on us by not doing more for this. I’m still gonna buy cause they’re fire. But they could be so much better
No doubt
I got two pair hit in the shock drop and on a raffle at DTLR nice shoe one to wear and one to stash
Seem like DTLR is the plug lowkey
I can't exactly say why these don't move me and I know I am in the minority but I prefer the soon to be released 4 Oxidized green color way. Always appreciate your down to earth reviews.
Yes those green 4's just like the metallic pack but hopefully new shape. My sleeper of the year
Those oxidized 4s weren't really on my radar until earlier this week and now I'm really feeling them
For me, although they’re cool. They’re not worth the cash. Worst of the original colourways and he didn’t wear them.
Pass, would prefer the upcoming green option aka the poor man’s pine green.
I need some more ASICS
Yea those oil greens are nice
Sitting at every JD and Nike store in my country
I think people have a right to speak of the cons just as well as the pros period🤨 If you purchased enjoy them. However if people that have waited on these shoes for so long expected better quality or comfort it is nothing wrong with that. That's like going to a restaurant and waiting for a tomahawk steak over 100.00 and they give you a ribeye. Still a good piece of meat and maybe even taste good, but it is not what you order. If people wanted better quality for a higher price point than let's get it. I passed just because it was not a must. The Bred 4's were to a standard I could live with so I purchased
Fair points
You can't judge comfort on a Jordan 4 out of the box. It takes a few weeks of wear to break them in. They are a bit heavy and boot like, but once broken in the comfiest retro style Jordan.
Imo 3s are much comfier than 4s. So many 4s kill your pinky toe.
@@Neil-qg9cw 4s kill my toes for the first 3 weeks or so. Then they break in. 3s are definitely more comfortable out of the box though. I find the 3s get less comfortable over time though, as the sole compresses and gets stiff.
In wearing the 2019 black cement 4's and 2020 black cat 4's.....those bever broke in for me. The stress areas just made wearing them a terrible experience. So i just went up a half size in these and will throw in a better insole to make up for the little bit of extra space
Honestly not a bad idea. And I'm sad to hear those didn't break in, now im wondering if I should have gone up .5
2:00 you can really see how gray it is
Nobody “hates” these other than hype beast about the color or the resellers who thought these would sell for $400+
Isnt military blacks just better ?
Depends on personal preference
is it just me or some pairs the blue look like a different shade of blue ?
its the lighting, sometimes I feel the shoes look even bluer under certain lights
They hard they different i love the gray tint
yea im feeling it also
ayes outfit video please
Silhouette is ruined the side mesh and tabs look more proportional on the 2012 these look like wooks
Pretty happy for the release of these, as they are the only missing OG colourway in my collection. I'm less happy with the material and quality (control), my SNKRS shockdrop pair came with scratches on the leather and I think that pearloid hue makes the leather look cheapish. Pairs were a lot harder to get than expected, but luckily some shops are still awaiting delivery from Nike, so there is still a chance to get a flawless pair for retail.
Wish you good luck Danny hope you get a good pair
Yall do realize these are supposed to be like the 89 pair. The 2012 pair was not the correct blue so that’s why people are complaining. Ian trippin tho cs I got a pair😂
2012s the real military blue color
@@blurryzaddy6989 no it’s not bud. If the shoe is a retro, it’s supposed to be like the old pair which is the first and original military blue color
these r a very clean sneaker
These fire af, people are weird and don’t know how to have their own opinions these days.
and yeah def need a styling vid
Most ppl hating on these cap cuz they don’t have $$$ rn to cop. Haterz gonna hate. IMO these are dope.
🗣️🗣️
Could be a reason tbh
nah, i returned mine.. poor quality imo...
I returned my pair I got early on shock drop. Love the colourway but quality control was terrible on my pair.
lol just copped a pair from a local reseller for $20 over retail because I didn’t reserve my pairs in time. I LOVE that the sneaker game is DEAD 🙃
I feel you man
Thanks for the showcase that blueish off white is not for me
the 2012 leather was worse than these. overall, the 2024 is a solid B
I would grab it if the retail wasn't so expensive here in Brazil.. around $355 american dollars 🤦🏻♂️
That is absolutely insane price
That is nucking futs !!!
People complaining about this pair should just return it, get their money back and move on with their life. Let US the people who appreciate this pair for what it is be happy. I certainly am!
So am I
Got mine retail 💯
I got my pair I love em 🔥I don’t give a damn what people say
Got a Pair and fucked up my suede 🤦🏾♂️
I'm not upset I like mine they fire to me
I have to go up have a size at least
My right shoe came fully fucked up, the whole grey bit is smooth no texture no movement like on the other shoe ?!?!? and massive crease looks like they bein used for like a month wtf
That is terrible, hope you get a different pair
Just not a fan, of fours, that much. I usually wear what people dont wear That's why I stand out. But to each his own
Good hate them the closer I get them to retail the better
Upset? They're perfect
I'm only missing the wc4's
glad i copped.
Zero complaints From me to each their own though
Fs do a styling vid
Surprisingly passed on them - I've got the Sb 4rs they share a very very similar design. The military blue is the best OG Jordan 4 color way by far tho. But despite these being more true to the OG I prefer the 2012 color way (but the shape on the 2024 it perfect)
Also prefer the colorway of the 2012
If Nike made these limited, these influencers would be singing a different song
1:46, mine too!!💯💯👍🙌💪🔥
I copped, but not going to double up.
People are running out money. Resale value is dropping. People are coming up with reasons to hate these to justify not purchasing.
That’s facts
Glad I got my pair. While the leather does look and feel kinda cheap, it’s not as bad as folks are making it out to be.
Perfect shoe for this upcoming summer
For me these are winter shoes. Can’t wear 4s in the summertime .. feet get cooked
Yea I agree Jordan 4s in the summer (in really hot places) are tough to wear
The Nike and jordan retro are using outdated tech and the shoes hype is dead, people are looking for more comfortable shoes and in the case of the samba more affordable and available shoes.
1:12, cuz it's smart,💯💯💯
Color on 2012 better but shape on 2024 better
Exactly!!
Nice vid and greetings from vienna :)
Unfortunately these are going to be the new Panda dunks. Soon you will see them anywhere and everywhere. I was so looking forward to them to release but honestly I am not really feeling the colorway of white and the materials are the same shitty leather like we had on the fire red 4s. Not sure I am going to keep or return 🙁 I was at least expecting to get a similar quality like we had on the military black 4s.
I dont see them becoming like Panda dunks man, nowhere NEAR as much stock as Pandas