Society has helped us to have no capacity | J. Krishnamurti
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Society has helped us to have no capacity | J. Krishnamurti
Extract from the third seminar at Brockwood Park, 1978.
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This man saved my life as I ran away from home as a teenager and happened to find one of his books. Amazing human!!
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I found this man and he could answer my enquiry and my search stopped. Great man ever!
Which book? Could you please share the name of the book?
I just summarized content of this video into the below lines.
Problem at hand:
We have been educated/conditioned by our Society, that we don’t feel capable to deal with our fears.
Reject all this, by saying "I reject somebody is going to solve my fears".
Reason for rejecting the conditioning:
You cannot possibly understand fear if you don’t have the capacity to deal with your fears
And this capacity has been taken away from you by others/society.
Outcome of Rejection:
You have rejected through doubting, by questioning, seeing what is its value, you have intelligence now.
You have a movement that is happening, which is intelligence.
Intelligence is capacity.
The brain sees the whole thing what the people have done to it, they have made you dull.
This very seeing is the movement of intelligence.
I love the last couple of minutes especially. The dialogue seems to have reached a peak. K states that we do use the brain to see beyond the conditioning of the various authorities and teachers. And this seeing is not personal intelligence but intelligence itself. If it were personal intelligence then it would leave a mark - a personal mark, and thus be a thought, an image, not perception.
Wow!!
Just as applicable today as it was then
Forever
I love you j krishnamurti ❤❤❤
Yes, a natural intelligence. Free from predictable patterns and programming.
People carry on utilizing the instrument of thought to come to the truth of the matter. Therefore, depending on the great thinkers to provide them psychological security.
It comes at a shock to find these great thinkers could be easily replaced with the great machines.
Without another to provide the answer, one must become a light unto themselves.
@inquiring_Together - Ol' yes, free from the conditioning of school, society at large, of which the majority have no idea, on idea one has been, and continues to be programed, who have been, are being filled with, poision, people are being used and abused by others and have no idea, is this unbelieveable...
i dont believe great thinkers could be replaced by machines. they relied on the same original intelligence you should rely on in life. this only means that their great ideas cant be communicated well enough to be copypasted by all other people. they should be viewed as inspiration, not as something to imitate blindly.
Man is naturally free
You are only limited by your own fears and inaction.
It's so simple & relative even for today...! . look at what various government's are doing to the masses & msm 😮...
If you’re uncertain about your desires or haven’t achieved them yet, simply observe. Whether you know what you want or not, there’s no formula to force it. Forget the desire, for looking with a mind tainted by it is not true looking. Engage in what you enjoy, be playful, and simplicity will reveal itself. The mystery lies in the joy of existence, and wasting energy on anything else is a choice. Eventually, one realizes the folly of clinging to illusions over embracing joy.
This Man is amazing in his deep profound reflection and wisdom🙏🤍😌 thank you for sharing his thoughts💚
It is said that we are born twice in this life; First by our mothers. Then by ourselves.
I think that the process that J. Krishnamurti is describing here is: First we learn (from parents, friends, kindergarden, school, society, etc). Then we should UNLEARN what we have learnt.
If we dont unlearn, then we become mentally rigid in the ideas, dull, and stops any form of genious to happen within us.
The process of Unlearning, is the very process of becoming free.. Free from transmitted beliefs.
Only pure knowledge is left. And one will be free to be creative and improvise with what one knows.
And as we are free and creative, and play around with our insights and minds, we get to know ourselves.. For Real.
Parafrasing Jesus here: "Let the dead be amongst themselves. Come you living souls and be with me"..
We are not "Living Souls" until we have consciously Unlearned what we subconscious learned coming into this world.
Is how i see it anyways. ☺🙏👌
Very grateful for all your work. If I may make a request to add a link to the full seminar on these short videos. A lot of care was clearly taken to find stand alone moments. Thank you very much.
Although Krishnamurti said 'dont compare' he reminds me of Rousseau in that they both believed that good things happen in a state of nature while bad things are someone else's-or society's-fault.
He never judged anything as good and bad. He always says, observe and be with it. The very act of observation leads to intelligence and thereby liberation.
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He is a lion and he is making his disciples are lions and they are ❤
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This reminds me of a TV slogan "trust the science" - which is an oxymoron. Especially when someone calls himself an "authority" you can be sure he is not.
Assuming that knowledge is limited to our sensory perception alone is flawed. Not believing what we can not see is also not correct, because things can happen beyond our perception or understanding.
Are we, fundamentally, different from any given society (at whatever time/place) ? Whether this society has capacitated or incapacitated us is of secondary/superficial importance, isn't it?
So the real question is, what the 'hell' is it to capaciate us (or incapacitate us, for that matter) ? To capaciate oneself is to dissolve one's own psychological structure absolutely, immediately and irrevocably; there by one is also dissolving the very identity any given society at its very roots. (Excuse me, for borrowing K's words liberally). Only this fundamental dissolution at its very roots,(the very psychological structure ; with its ignorant and illusory psychological time as its base ) will have its own reverberating effect on the outer society. Not the other way round. Please for god's sake, never ever blame any given society. Better blame one's own psychological structure, instead. Then one can put one's own teeth into one's own psychological structure; not the psychological structure of outward society. Basta.
Ironically, who think "Jesus will save you" means you're giving yourself to some outside agency simply don't understand what Jesus taught because they don't read the actual books, and/or are led by terrible guides. Jesus actually teaches you that you save yourself, you just have to read with that in mind. It's not easy, but once you see what Christ was teaching, it becomes clear.
What is action for you? Work so you can help the poor people giving them some money of yours?
Study politics and become governant?