1995 Archimedes Wind Turbine With Magnetic Bearings

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  • Опубліковано 21 лип 2023
  • You can find the STl Files here
    www.thingiverse.com/thing:613...
    An unusual arrangement in that it uses magnetic bearings - for the bearings you will need 1 12mm ball bearing,2 x 15mm by 3mm neodymium magnets, 1 x 10mm by 5mm magnet nd 8 x 10mm x 2mm magnets
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  • @jerrywiessner
    @jerrywiessner Рік тому +11

    Hello, from Kalamazoo Michigan Robert . Archimedes turbine, 1 ball bearing as pivot, magnets, some opposing. Wind powered generator, using only human breath. I can see lots of school science projects coming from this and many other projects that Robert has done.

  • @shauncrosby7652
    @shauncrosby7652 Рік тому +23

    That combined with your previous pen nib bearings and in a drainpipe would make an awesome hydrogenerator

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Рік тому +3

      yes it would!

    • @pietpompiepompiepiet940
      @pietpompiepompiepiet940 Рік тому

      @@ThinkingandTinkering hi Robert thankyou for the informative videos. Do you know if AA size salt batteries exist

    • @pietpompiepompiepiet940
      @pietpompiepompiepiet940 Рік тому

      ​@@ThinkingandTinkeringif the fan was mounted in a tube just bigger than the blades and you collect the wind from a bigger cone at input to basically compress the airflow but also guide it down the tube to minimize the wobble on blade could that work?

    • @mingwangchung
      @mingwangchung Рік тому +1

      ​@@pietpompiepompiepiet940 dude I love the way you think. I would love to see a practical application for this. Maybe collapsible cone, I would love to see one approximately 12" or 30cm model. If it could recharge a phone or tablet this would be marketable.

    • @pietpompiepompiepiet940
      @pietpompiepompiepiet940 Рік тому +1

      @@mingwangchung hi thanks for the reply. If I had a 3d file of the cone impeller then I would print it to the scale of the tube just to proof the theory.

  • @user-py9qi5xp8b
    @user-py9qi5xp8b Рік тому +15

    Interesting concept. Look forward to a scaled up practical implementation.. your enthusiasm & energy are contagious, keep up the great work.

  • @JoeyBlogs007
    @JoeyBlogs007 Рік тому +8

    Interesting concept. Look forward to a scaled up practical implementation.

  • @jishk8980
    @jishk8980 Рік тому +8

    The exact video I needed as a follow-up to the last. Great work as always Robert!

  • @thomashopkins1988
    @thomashopkins1988 Рік тому +24

    This is a good idea! Smaller turbines require less wind to rotate than large turbines. This could be scaled up with several small turbines in a fence and then have a screen around it to prevent birds from flying into it.Also it could be built into architecture such as bridges and property fencing to reduce optical blight. Awesome idea!

    • @orobinczaia5527
      @orobinczaia5527 11 місяців тому +3

      It's doing the same work as a 3 cent solar panel.

    • @echo9082
      @echo9082 11 місяців тому +1

      I'm not sure a screen would be ideal. I think you'd be robbing your efficiency

    • @fhuber7507
      @fhuber7507 10 місяців тому

      Wind is a fickle thing...
      It is disturbed by the smallest things in ways that are detrimental to the ability to use the air movement to harvest power.
      Normal recommendation is the bottom of the wind turbine be 30 feet above the highest obstruction within a very large radius.
      Your screen, even "chicken wire" would naturally interfere with the wind and greatly diminish the ability to harvest power.

  • @WileHeCoyote
    @WileHeCoyote Рік тому

    YEEEEEESS!!!! I've always pondered exactly this when I saw those holders!! Thank you for sharing Rob!!! Cheers!

  • @stumblestorms7881
    @stumblestorms7881 Рік тому +1

    Amazing! I was recently thinking how a Di Vinci Aerial screw between magnets, thank you for being awesomely innovative, and ingenious.

  • @jockewing6530
    @jockewing6530 9 місяців тому

    Marvellous !! I love the joy you show about your working project. Makes me laugh in sad times. Thank you.

  • @waterfuel
    @waterfuel Рік тому +5

    The Texas Engineer has the US Patent on the Tornado Turbine many years back. . It is regarded as the best windmill design for generating electricity. Photos of it are included in wall posters of various designs of windmills. Looks like a farm silo at a distance with small upper 360 degree automatic directional vanes catching the breeze and the air swirls down inside the spiral large vanes to the main large electrical generator that is above your head. The fast air exits out the sides at an upper level.

    • @hamasmillitant1
      @hamasmillitant1 11 місяців тому +1

      the archemedies turbine due to its shape is also self cocking and works in winds of just a few kmph. it will always point into wind just because of its shape so its always receiving maximum possible wind load on maximum amount of surface

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst2878 Рік тому +2

    This is a very interesting design Robert. I see great potential for this design to provide ultra efficiency output for the owner

  • @peterwiley4383
    @peterwiley4383 Рік тому +2

    Love it! Was a lil concerned about you passing out though, Rob.😂

  • @podpub711
    @podpub711 Рік тому +4

    Finally a power generator driven by hot air - we should strap one to every politician’s mush

    • @gazfish
      @gazfish Рік тому

      Might be more efficient to capture the methane from their BS

  • @GundamExia88
    @GundamExia88 Рік тому

    Nice video! I'm so going to 3d print this to play with!

  • @Dick_Mustang
    @Dick_Mustang 11 місяців тому

    I haven't a clue why this showed up on my feed, but I'm hooked.

  • @fern8580
    @fern8580 5 місяців тому

    Your video is very interesting; you remind me of the first steps of Mr. Gernot Zippe (Mr. Steenbeck's son-in-law),
    when he was looking for the right compromise to build his first centrifuge.
    For the record, he used the magnet (1948/1952), and the needle at the bottom was made of piano wire steel,
    to make a beautiful little needle, (like the needle of the phonograms of the time)
    the needle turned at the beginning in a small concave oiled container!
    Finally, it is also the fact of creating a vacuum in this process which allowed great reliability of the rotations...

  • @ryanb100
    @ryanb100 Рік тому +2

    Ball point bearings!!!! Always a joy to watch

  • @TheRubidium7
    @TheRubidium7 Рік тому

    Thank you for sharing this piece of information.

  • @YukiMorrow105
    @YukiMorrow105 3 місяці тому

    Man i love this idea.keep up the good work!

  • @hins2520
    @hins2520 11 місяців тому

    This will be useful for my project. Thank's a lot.

  • @aNf0m0f0
    @aNf0m0f0 11 місяців тому

    First time watching, thanks for the upload :)

  • @josepha.freivaldsr.9636
    @josepha.freivaldsr.9636 Рік тому +5

    Do you think it reasonable to use a pointy insert on the end that floats into a matching cone-shaped dent in the frame, and then fine-adjust the distances so that the point would enter the dent just enough that it stopped the excessive wandering around of the floating end?

  • @tradermunky1998
    @tradermunky1998 Рік тому

    Always cool stuff, Thanks!

  • @annamolly1261
    @annamolly1261 Рік тому +3

    I will say, it's always fun to see your face light up like a schoolboy at the little joys...like huffing and puffing away on a new toy. 🫶

  • @anthnorm
    @anthnorm Рік тому

    That was interesting. Thank you Robert. :-)

  • @crazyrayuk36
    @crazyrayuk36 Рік тому

    Brillant as always

  • @samknight2573
    @samknight2573 Рік тому +3

    Would love to see a 3d printed fluidyne engine! Using household copper for the receiver and running on solar energy. A Great channel for the young engineers like me!

  • @jigold22571
    @jigold22571 Рік тому +1

    Fabulous. Thank You.

  • @goldengoat1737
    @goldengoat1737 Місяць тому

    Omg you are my idol! I never knew someone could do this as a job… Now I have a goal !

  • @monokheros5373
    @monokheros5373 Рік тому +1

    one design adjustment ... then ends should to be swap-able the Metal Bearing end will probably wobble less with the generator magnets attached then the free float magnets end
    you have way to much fun

  • @Xenoyer
    @Xenoyer 11 місяців тому +2

    That is really cool! I wonder if you can put enough magnets to make it so strong it could have a pulley and belt, or a sprocket and chain added to it?

  • @kapilkumarshinde3117
    @kapilkumarshinde3117 11 місяців тому

    you are a great teacher

  • @peacefulscrimp5183
    @peacefulscrimp5183 Рік тому

    Great video 👍

  • @JoeyBlogs007
    @JoeyBlogs007 Рік тому +2

    Possibly also create a magnetic or electromagnetic stabilizer, so it's completely frictionless.

  • @princedemiterios2488
    @princedemiterios2488 Рік тому

    Perfect ,all the best .

  • @mrkultra1655
    @mrkultra1655 Рік тому

    Very interesting, thanks

  • @growthisfreedomunitedearth7584

    Just found your channel.
    pure platinum, my friend.
    If you ever want to visit Alfred University, I'm sure I could get that ball rolling.

  • @stevehartley7504
    @stevehartley7504 Рік тому +2

    Could you constrain the wobble with magnets around the axle?

  • @henrycastle1
    @henrycastle1 Рік тому

    Dear Robert,
    Here in Chearsly , Bucks, we have a three phase supply lines to an
    empty disused and unconnected old pig unit.
    A hillside location, where two telegraph poles hold
    the transformer above the removed old metre
    Inside the building are lots and lots of electric fans, some quite big
    Millling ones, grain bins etc. others ventilators
    So from what I have learnt from your lessons; I hope is:
    It would be mad not too collect all the biggest motors
    Four biggest for first morning
    Get them on the Hill by the power box
    Support them facing upwards (as high as possible)
    Use farm made barrel turbines. Out of plastic 50 gallon barrels
    Or whatever’s best under trial
    Get a bod and electrician too collect the whole lot together and open a new power company account metre below
    transformer for them
    to connect too and start feeding power
    back down lines
    Robert , assuming that the sparkys know there stuff ;right this and that wires etc
    and the fans turned with the prevailing wind
    I can’t see what’s not to like
    Am I mad or not
    Using barrels would protect motors from rain up on two gate posts
    Love what you do
    Sincere one
    Henry
    P.S I’ve worked on the farm for twenty seven years, but my channel videos make it look like I am a rock star
    I am not. Only for fun.

  • @charlietaylor6227
    @charlietaylor6227 Рік тому +8

    Fascinating, as always! If I get the assembly, the ballpoint bearing is on the windward side of the turbine, so the wind thrust would pull the bearing away from the bearing surface. Would turning the turbine around allow the bearing to carry the wind thrust? That might stabilize the wobbling a bit and support the thrust.

  • @BluespotKneeClinic
    @BluespotKneeClinic 11 місяців тому

    Nice guy. Joy to watch

  • @TheTubejunky
    @TheTubejunky Рік тому

    You can literally use a brushless DC motor (from an old record player) for this and it's pretty efficient. I've taken one I've had fro MANY years and put an old microwave fan blade on it and attached the contraption to an 1/2 inch PVC pipe and stuck it high in the air. It made about 14 V - 19 V easily without a load.

  • @marcfruchtman9473
    @marcfruchtman9473 Рік тому

    Very creative.

  • @Milkybar3320011
    @Milkybar3320011 Рік тому

    Scaled up equals more bearing magnets and even less friction. Love the turbine too.

  • @063317Art
    @063317Art 11 місяців тому

    If i did that much huffing and puffing i would have passed out from hyper ventilation😂

  • @dennisboyd1712
    @dennisboyd1712 Рік тому +2

    Robert Murray-Smith the Happy Inventor Genius

  • @aliorkunozkan1910
    @aliorkunozkan1910 6 місяців тому

    Wonderful!!!

  • @timstill152
    @timstill152 11 місяців тому

    What a beautiful design. I'd love to make a wind turbine like that in my backyard on a large scale and see how my neighbors react =)

    • @hamasmillitant1
      @hamasmillitant1 11 місяців тому

      make sure you put it on a easy swivel pedestal as archemedies turbine self cocks due to shape so it will always point into wind if you give it a swivel base. theres a german company that makes them about 1m across that turn out 1.5kwh in anything 4kmph or higher wind wise
      i was lobying a decade ago to get them installed on all floors of office blocks above third story because due to wind currents they make they always have 4kmph+ winds & it would have turned office blocks into power plants rather than massive power sinks but nothing came of it, they dont do it the way they do it because its cheaper in short term they do it way they do it because they hope to steal most of the resources when it all collapses

  • @QuadraticPerplexity
    @QuadraticPerplexity Рік тому

    On the ballpoint bearing model, would adding magnets on top reduce the wobbling enough to make it useful?
    It should serve to make a more strongly defined local energy minimum afaics.

  • @MagicianMan
    @MagicianMan Рік тому +1

    What happens if you combine the 2 designs. Use the "pen style" and then use opposing magnets at each horizontal end of the turbine?

  • @hissst69
    @hissst69 Рік тому

    Very very cool Robert, love how fast you can bang proof of concepts with a 3d printers, imagine Tesla with one of these, instead of designing and hiring out contractors to build something, Inventing has never been easier, tinkering has never been fast and efficient.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Рік тому

      t s astounding how 3d printing is helping - to think only a year ago - less probably - would have been in the '3d printers are rubbish camp' - how things change!!

    • @hissst69
      @hissst69 Рік тому

      @@ThinkingandTinkering I was using 3d printers 5 years ago and it was like "why spend so much time building and tinkering with the 3d printer when I can just build what I need faster than making the printer work to make it:, but now they work out of the box and with filesharing and easy cad wysiwyg web programs, you would be insane NOT to go the way of the 3d printer, the day of super speed inventioning and prototyping is upon us, nice to see you at the forefront :)

  • @SDS-1
    @SDS-1 Рік тому +1

    I think you would do good as an infomercial pich man. You got good energy and great punchy voice.
    Love the vids 🥰🥰😊😊

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Рік тому +1

      Wow, thank you

    • @SDS-1
      @SDS-1 Рік тому

      @@ThinkingandTinkering you are most welcome Sir ☺️
      Thank you for all the gizmos and ideas you try to expand all our ideas 😊😊

  • @1g1d1w
    @1g1d1w 6 місяців тому

    The energy you used was more than it created. Kind of like the fusion test at Livermore.

  • @lornablewettandlee504
    @lornablewettandlee504 Рік тому +1

    Have I just watched a new measure of power invented? 1 RMS = the puff power required to light an LED for X amount of time.

  • @landoishisname
    @landoishisname Рік тому

    Hopefully when you get into the 2030s I'll stop having my brain think the video title references a year

  • @Meul1968
    @Meul1968 11 місяців тому

    Awesome!

  • @robdavidson4945
    @robdavidson4945 Рік тому

    I'm retired now and I worked with Rotary Screw NH3 (Ammonia) refrigeration compressors for the most of my working life. I was aware that there was research and some progress with magnetic bearings both for the large electric drive motors and the compressors. Something like that would reduce starting amps and in essence be frictionless for stationary rotating equipment. Have you ever heard of this path of research?

  • @wilgarcia1
    @wilgarcia1 11 місяців тому

    cool. I bet that turbine would make a really good boat propeller.

  • @kevingaddis7276
    @kevingaddis7276 Рік тому

    Fantastic.

  • @kevinbowker2385
    @kevinbowker2385 Рік тому

    Outstanding

  • @lechiezz1450
    @lechiezz1450 Рік тому

    Very cool! Just curious, how do you think this would work in space? But since we can't go there on a whim, how about fully submerged underwater? Like if you placed this in a fish tank and spun it with your finger. Would it work? Would the stability issue be solved?

  • @conservativemike3768
    @conservativemike3768 Рік тому +1

    Theoretically, could a few small and virtually disposable generators can trickle charge an EV or house battery system?

  • @hamasmillitant1
    @hamasmillitant1 11 місяців тому

    awesome, being archemedies turbine it will auto cock itself into any wind also :) i can see small varients of these being included on e vehicles to scavenge power it ofc can never equal the power needed to move it along but with so little friction & being self cocking design without need of extra power i think it could be as useful as pasive breaking systems are for energy reclamation

  • @RootsEcho
    @RootsEcho Рік тому

    Same in the Netherlands right now along the coast. May take another week to change back into something remotely resembling summer

  • @mitchgingras3899
    @mitchgingras3899 Рік тому

    We missed something. If the turbine is configured to suck air from each end of the turbine, opposing forces would neutralise all torque forces upon the turbine drive bearings and drive shaft. In effect, using high-volume vacuum pressures to drive power devices

  • @MrDarknrguk
    @MrDarknrguk Рік тому

    Ha good thinking. I had the exact same idea 5 years ago with this exact turbine except I had it hanging vertically above my living room radiator from a screw and had the bearing attached via a tubular magnet glued to the turbine. When the heating came on the turbine would spin. Hardly any resistance this way, the slightest breeze and it flies!

  • @rpned9440
    @rpned9440 Рік тому

    Ever thought of using using a CDROM moteor as a generator? All the ones I've used in the distant past, used a three phase winding so you need a 3 phase rectifier. Used to connect it to a modiified Fan to drive the gennie.

  • @mrslake7096
    @mrslake7096 Рік тому

    your enthusiasm & energy are contagious, keep up the great work

  • @soeffner6833
    @soeffner6833 11 місяців тому

    Water tubine. In an expanding tube. Magnets on edge of wheel. Coils outside tube walls. And as another commenter said, put the bearing on the other end.

  • @ibme8359
    @ibme8359 Рік тому +1

    Spins good, does seem to wobble a bit though! The pen is mightier than ..., like your new way to utilize it!

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Рік тому

      yeah i saw the wobble too - hmmm

    • @ibme8359
      @ibme8359 Рік тому

      @@ThinkingandTinkering Yes, but I know U can solve it, waiting' 4 Ur fix.

  • @Jacified
    @Jacified Рік тому

    Robert, any chance you know if making it a 4 or 6 magnet array would center the rotating spindle? My theory is if 2 can hold it up, 2 can hold it down, and 2 can hold it left to right? Would this perhaps work instead of the ball bearing? ✌️🤟🖖

  • @thepvporg
    @thepvporg Рік тому

    Magnetic bearings work best in a vertical orientation and the method of holding the bearing in position requires correct placement of the magnets to have an attract and repel setup. I made one as a demonstration using an old CD storage case to make the bearing mount and the spindle as a proof of concept that had the desired effect of both working and shutting up those who claimed it couldn't be done.

  • @go4acro
    @go4acro Рік тому

    So awesome

  • @tomten2539
    @tomten2539 Рік тому

    bright ideas...make happy!

  • @keything8487
    @keything8487 11 місяців тому

    awesome !!

  • @user-lz3gv2ig5m
    @user-lz3gv2ig5m 10 місяців тому

    Really good idea great!!!!😃😃😃😃

  • @MoonSpyStudios
    @MoonSpyStudios Рік тому

    Brilliant...

  • @yongdongsongdonge163
    @yongdongsongdonge163 11 місяців тому

    Focused magnetic field in the right angles to spin blades = perpetual motion. More strength, more pull, no resistance.

  • @kittredgeseely3542
    @kittredgeseely3542 Рік тому

    Many wind turbines have one problem: high winds. As the wind speed goes from a normal speed to 80 - 120 miles per hour, the turbine spins so fast that it can be torn apart. In the large 3 bladed wind turbines the blade changes position relative to their mounting hub. The more the blades rotate relative to the hub the less force the wind can exert on the blades. When the blades are parallel to the wind direction, the wind turbine stops rotating and the high speed wind won't destroy the turbine.

    • @gulfy09
      @gulfy09 Рік тому

      I think they have brakes to get the speed down

  • @leefoster4133
    @leefoster4133 Рік тому

    Well, that prop design in a chamber could be used to propel a boat I think. But in reverse. Brings in large amounts of water, compresses it and ejects it to the rear. I will not say it would be quiet underwater.

  • @x808drifter
    @x808drifter Рік тому

    Cant wait for this to become the next new breakthrough in turbine disign.
    "Insert toroidal prop joke here"

  • @cxzuk
    @cxzuk Рік тому +1

    Loved it! 5️⃣

  • @philip48230
    @philip48230 Рік тому

    Have you scaled this up? Brilliant.

  • @JesseBlair
    @JesseBlair Рік тому

    how about running the current back into a small electromagnetic floating bearing to strengthening it. Till a certain level of power level is achieved. then release the remaining to power the light. while still strengthening the bearing. achieve high speeds, more stability?

  • @AfrikanMan
    @AfrikanMan 11 місяців тому

    There's no way I'd have blown on that turbine with a straight face either. 🤣

  • @Theeoldmann
    @Theeoldmann Рік тому

    Great video, love the tinkering. I had an idea that you might perhaps try out. I'm curious to see the flow rate of your modified Darwin project connected to a output tube (keep the diameter constant), apply a hair dryer for hot air & measure end of tube flow, then try with cool air (getting same input flow rate) & measure air output flow rate. I wonder how different lengths of tube would change the rate (slower is some function of longer tube due to friction perhaps?). I wonder how hot or cold air may change the flow rates per length of tube. Kicker could be... Would a Tesla (scientist, not company) Value aid in increased flow rate? At beginning or mid or end of output tube? What about by varied tube lengths &/or heated or cold air?

  • @hybridzofficial6357
    @hybridzofficial6357 Рік тому

    Is it possible to exploit a system like this with air bearing, i don't know how to impliment this mechanism of ultra low friction but I think air bearing can be exploit more

  • @hsaneener9292
    @hsaneener9292 Рік тому

    Is the goal to stop the bouncing?
    If so why dont you go with the bounce? The two wavy pieces or all components could potentially go with tide ?

  • @silverpc4611
    @silverpc4611 Рік тому

    This might be a waste of magnets but my thinking on the magnetic bearing with the pen is to add repelling magnets all the way around and tighten them up closer together to reduce the wabble.

  • @jakesusnik5038
    @jakesusnik5038 11 місяців тому

    Interesting, as i was watching this i was thinking about how most people in subdivision and such are forbid from having a wind tubine.
    Then the idea popped in my head of how the air flow in an attic works .... cool air in the soffit and hot air out the ridge vent .....
    Would it be possible to put a turbine in front of the ridge vent if we could get them to spin freely enough to produce energy and not be seen?

  • @delundigaming
    @delundigaming Рік тому

    use a convex shape of magnet to create a cavity for the turbine to be held in. will reduce a lot of instability.

  • @erikt81a
    @erikt81a Рік тому

    Watching Robert blowing while trying not to laugh is so funny🤣

  • @Reneg973
    @Reneg973 Рік тому

    It's not a turbine but just a windfang. A turbine is used to work against a force to produce energy. How do you want to transfer this energy without pushing your mechanism out of the magnetic field?

  • @kevidig5676
    @kevidig5676 11 місяців тому

    Turn i upright so less pressure on contact?

  • @BelieveInYeshua
    @BelieveInYeshua 10 місяців тому

    Could you please, Robert, run that tri-blade Archimedes screw in reverse to turn it into a propeller and do a whole episode on this propeller concept’s performance? That means the blunt side will be the front that scoops the air in and the pointed side becomes the back where the air exits. Use physical bearings, though, rather than wobbly magnetic ones for this experiment. I imagine it will be super quiet and very efficient! Please. 🙏

  • @nokta3r9fj93
    @nokta3r9fj93 11 місяців тому

    What about to make a similar one in a vacuum chamber without air friction ?

  • @Z0mb13ta11ahase
    @Z0mb13ta11ahase 11 місяців тому

    An upscaled and refined turbine like this plus some good bellows may make man powered electricity feasible.

  • @howardg396
    @howardg396 Рік тому

    Interesting concept. Originally I thought you were going to simply duplicate the ball-point pen bearing from 1994 and put one on each end of the spindle. Do you think this might work as well, or better (it wouldn't be totally frictionless though)?

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Рік тому

      i am not sure to be honest mate - but always answer those questions by building a model - my guess is yes it would work - but that is a guess

  • @louiscklaw
    @louiscklaw 11 місяців тому

    amazing

  • @kevincrady2831
    @kevincrady2831 Рік тому

    I love all your inventions, and the joy you bring to these videos. When the "Mad Scientist" is the good guy: "I'm going to bring unlimited clean energy to the WOOOOOORLD! HAHAHAHAHAAA!" Meanwhile at the Justice League: "Well now he's just making us look bad." 😉