SLIP TEST - Suzuki Jimny vs Suzuki Ignis 4WD - All Grip PRO vs All Grip AUTO -
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2020
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Suzuki Jimny 1.5 VVT MT All Grip PRO
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Suzuki Ignis 1.2 DualJet 5MT 4WD All Grip AUTO with Grip Control system
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It's not often I see a roller test where the AWD system is so well-programmed that the one wheel with traction actually peels rubber.
Unfortunately pavement was wet.
I'm impressed with that little Ignis. I live where there is snow on the road for 5 months of the year and think it would be great
Very cool that you guys show the buttons you press :-D
That's a borrowed finger ;)
Sehr gut gemachtes Video und äußerst interressanter Test!
I've got a jimny with front and rear air lockers.
Its amazing how much more capability it adds to an already calabile vehicle
This new Ignis has pretty fast viscous coupler. Old Ignis needed very large speed diffrerence between front and rear axles to fully engage coupler.
Yes, and when you look at the lateral or diagonal tests - rear starts with the front, no delay.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yes, it is very strange for me. Really is it viscous coupler without any external intervention like some internal visco fluid heater or something similar ?
@@garminbreak Yes, just a visco. But it's not strange, visco may be set this way.
Very interesting thorough test. It really shows the difference between a good AWD and an entry level AWD.
I recently had to get rid of my good ol' subaru justy g3x, which had permanent AWD, and I'm very interested in the ignis 4x4. Not that I have to drive in mud (maybe a muddy road from time to time), but I live in a snowy mountain and 4x4 is essential for me. Especially during the winter where our roads are icy and most often covered with a layer of snow. And of course, our roads are steep.
Thanks to your video, I'm now very attentive to that part too. And maybe the ignis 4x4 isn't enough for my mountain, after all.
Thanks! Subaru Justy G3X is actually a Suzuki Ignis (previous gen.). New Ignis has the same awd system as previous one, based on viscous coupling but it uses different type of oil which can deal with higher working temperature. Additionally now it has two-step traction control system.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers This news is most reassuring. Thank you very much. As long as the Ignis 4x4 2020 can perform similarly to the Justy G3X on snow, it is more than enough for me. The fact that the Ignis has a manual button for AWD and it is said to be switched off automatically after a while got me worried.
@@gokudomatic New Ignis can perform much better. The button ain't for AWD system, the button is for different setup of traction control (function called Grip Control). AWD is the same, mechanical visco.
nice video👍
I love Suzuki's and have the Vitara Allgrip, sold my 2006 4grip ignis recently, looked for a replacement as a second car, but the Jimny is just too small and expensive and the new ignis is also too small in comparison to my old ignis, also quiet pricey for what you get. Bought a Dacia Sandero Stepway and I am impressed with the size and also the build quality, not cheap looking at all and has similar plastics inside as my VItara.
Unfortunately Sandero Stepway is only 2WD.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers yes pity that, it would be s good addition if it was.
Jimny is expensive???
@@1wasinAlpha it is to some people. Not everyone can afford a £30,000 pound car, yes ?
@@oddities-whatnot Within the new cars of our era, I'd say Jimny is on the cheap side of things
The Brake system on the jimny workes well ... but i think if you drive long periods of offroading the brakes would be finished very fast....
Nah , Brakes take more punishment braking on roads than off-road , It's a misconception , EBD is quite smart it doesn't overwork itself.
@@Jasontvnd9 based on practical experience in know the brakes does.... If you dont let them cool down.
In the offroad case they also dont have much airstream to Cool down fast....
Tak patrze na test Ignisa i jego felgi z białym elementem i w sumie mógłbyś np na oponach (wiadomo auta nie są Twoje dlatego na oponach i za zgodą właściciela) naklejać jakieś paski np z silverki by było widać w jakim momencie i z jaką siła wkracza elektronika bądź blokady mostów które rozdzielają moc na koła.
Np. od 2:30 widać jak więcej mocy idzie na przód
Myśleliśmy już o tym i pewnie wkrótce to wprowadzimy.
Co do większej mocy na przód w Ignis - to praca samych mechanizmów różnicowych, przednie koło kręci się z taką prędkością, jak suma prędkości kół tylnych.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers i po to właśnie jest elektronika która na przykład tu od 2:45 wkracza do akcji i stara się z lepszym lub gorszym skutkiem (tu lepszy) wyrównać prędkość obrotową kół.
Swoją drogą w Twoich filmach widać właśnie jak na dłoni które napędy na 4 koła na które jest obecnie moda są coś warte
Hi , do you think ignis with different tires would have better result ?
No, there was no problem with grip, tyres wouldn't change the result.
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Wanneer komt de suzuki ignis 1.5 vvt 2006 4x4
Hard question, maybe in August.
what happened to the IGNIS on the last test , it didn't move off the rollers .... i have an IGNIS and the 4wd light doesn't stay on , should it stay on all the time ?
There is no 4wd light in Ignis.
When it comes to last test - it is hard to say if the problem is in traction control or viscous coupling. It doesn't matter at all, it is extreme test.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks for the reply , yes an extreme test . we had snow yesterday so i went for a drive in the ignis , very impressed with the traction the alldrive system gives .... the switch i mentioned looks like an off road setting , a car going over large bumps , my wife presumed this was a 4wd setting ,i did tell her the 4wd was automatic ... thanks for the video .
@@kawasakikev8905 Yes, Ignis is great for such conditions. And the switch you mentioned is Grip Control system.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks for that information i will pass that on , i really liked the video ,a great demonstration of the 4wd system working in real time , thanks for taking the time to produce it .
I think the problem is that the brakes are independent on the front wheels but not on the back. If the left front is slipping, the car can apply the brake on that wheel to direct power to the front right. The rear wheels can't do this, so if one wheel slips all the power at the rear will go to it.
Jimny is fcking insane,,, I thought the electronic limited-slip differential didn't work on 4 Low mode, but I'm happy to be wrong!
There is no "real" Slip differential ... works only with the brakes.
@@ja10ni I know, I just thought in only works in 4HI mode
@@1wasinAlpha Actually it is the opposite. Brake LSD Traction Control works only in 4L mode. In 4H there is standard traction control.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers nonono the e-lsd does work in 4wd-hi i am certain of it
@@1wasinAlpha That's a two stage traction control system. Standard in 4H and much more aggressive in 4L - and that is called by Suzuki "Brake LSD Traction Control".
What is that grey bit on the ignis called? I'd like to get that front bit on mine
Do you mean the side stickers?
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers the bumper addons
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers i mean on the bumpers, those grey bits
@@stijnVDA1994 That was a Suzuki dealer's car so all accessories are from official Suzuki catalogue.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers oh i see, thank you!
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Jimny is a little beast! ;) do you have an idea what will be the result of battle between first Audi A6 Allroad and Alfa Romeo Crosswagon :)) old school cars.
I have no idea. Both cars based on torsen so they may be very similar 🙂
I agree about Alfa Romeo Crosswagon. It would be ineteresting to see. Isaw some videos with it and it looks capable car.
Here's new test - Alfa Romeo 156 Crosswagon: ua-cam.com/video/dttafZwG9Tc/v-deo.html
Torque is important too
Not that much here.
Where i can buy these rollers???
Custom made.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thanks for the fast answer.
unfortunately Jimny will be withdrawn from EU, as far as I have heard. I hope it will come back as EV, Ford Bronco will, they say :)
Probably it will come back as a two seater "van" and it will have exactly the same 1.5 engine.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers that is right
Why is that? I thought it was rather popular?
@@deadmou5ie EU emissions. Now Jimny is available only as a two seater, registered as van. Next year it will get some hybrid powertrain to fit the norms and then it should be back as normal car.
@@deadmou5ie emissions standards. But I now can see that Jimny is still sold in EU.
Please test old ignis MH 4x4 on rollers
It is going to fail all tests except the one with front wheels on rollers.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers wow, i tought It did Better, you have the video?
@@riccardomarinoni6733 I don't have a video but I know its awd system. Rear wheels are powered by viscous coupling and there's no traction control.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers you can test the fiat panda 169 4x4. Thanks very much
@@riccardomarinoni6733 Panda II will do the same as old Ignis. Panda III is here: ua-cam.com/video/2bEcMzvjqm4/v-deo.html
Please test Hyundai creta(ix25)
Not available in Europe...
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers *European Union, I think Russia gets the Creta
@@papastratos99 Correct, I meant EU.
Jimny has a disadvantage because the surface is wet
Yes, that's why tyre on pavement was slipping. But it did anyway, easily.
4x4 tests on rollers - duszaniespokojna channel yes. Jimny is a awesome car. You make very great videos 👍
Turns out All Grip Pro don’t work like I thought... when u engage 4wd in new jimny, it locks the rear diff using air locking hubs... effectively making jimny’s 4wd dangerous on slippery surfaces, because locked rear diff will cause your back end to loose grip and slip while turning. I thought 4wd had an open center diff but it’s not. It’s actually what looks like a locked center diff with a locked rear diff. Not what I was looking for... but oh well since I got mine already I’ll just have to live with it
Jimny doesn't have center diff at all. 4WD engages front axle via transfer case, so front and rear axles are locked together. Front and rear differentials are open, no lockers.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers my owners manual states that it has an air locking hubs on rear wheels that lock the rear axle when 4WD-h or 4WD-l is engaged...
@@1wasinAlpha Are you sure? It has locking hubs on front to connect each wheel with semi-axle.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ok, it might be the front axle’s, I need to do some testing xD I’m gonna try to do detailed testing after quarantine ends in my country, which is Mongolia
Cheers :D
@@1wasinAlpha can categorically fell you Jimmy does not have a locking rear diff , it has like stated above no centre differential just a locking front axle and EBD sorts out the rest.
Why does the rear of the ignis have to be so fugly tho
Funny you say that, I actually like the look
Why not ask the designer ?
Occasion fiatp
What do you mean?
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I don't like the Ignis driver.
Why?
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers keeps driving to far foward. Rolling over on the roller. And one time i was sure he lost control and forgot to brake.
@@OutdoorFun01 Maybe it was furious Ignis, hard to stop 😉
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers if it’s the Ignis that’s hard to stop, what does it mean for me, the driver? What do I have to consider or be aware of when off roading in an ignis?
@@deadmou5ie That wasn't serious. Driver wasn't informed to stop just when car is off the rollers.